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usha manohar replied to the topic Let's discuss facts.
I think people need to get their facts right - According to his followers Mahishasura who is being worshiped coming from a small town close to Mysore in Karnataka was a tribal king . When his fame ( atrocities on everyone around him) became a source of worry he was killed by the brahmins ....Mythology is not taken into account here but being mixed up and given a different communal color altogether...If one can support this, one can support everything else including Godse since he too his many followers..Some may not agree but that is their personal or party view and does not stop others from believing what they want ..
9 years ago
usha manohar replied to the topic India finally coming to terms with its population...
No doubt it is working but there is also an imbalance in the manner in which it is working ..some communities grow while some reduce in size because they are consciously helping to reduce population !
9 years ago
suni51 replied to the topic Anti India slogan in JNU, Delhi.
Everyone who is seeing his position going down in politics is supporting Kanahiya. He's been invited by mamata Banerjee to campaign against BJP in WB's coming election. Everyone is out praising him. I think now he will be star campaigner in all forthcoming elections. A possible threat for crown prince as he will lose his ground if opposition decided to fight under Kanhaiya's leadership.
9 years ago
usha manohar replied to the topic nationalism saffron style .
There are bound to be Muslim kings in the valley since the Mughals and even Afghans ruled for a while , they also made sure that the entire place was looted and the place was left in misery. After 1846 it was Hindu Kings who ruled Jammu and Kashmir region until Independence when Congress made a mess of things which affects the country to this day ! A Nehruvian blunder !!!
http://www.koausa.org/Crown/history.html
9 years ago
usha manohar replied to the topic Anti India slogan in JNU, Delhi.
Kanhaiya is barely out on bail and still has a long way to go before he is proven innocent although AAP has given him a clean chit as expected since they would go to any length to defame the center, so their verdict hardly matters to the nation...But Kanhaiya is already showing his political colors - red in his case since he is apparently going to canvass for Left party in the coming WB elections !
9 years ago
usha manohar replied to the topic How you view mythology!.
Why should anyone be left right or center...Mythology is also a part of ones heritage and history.If one cannot digest it , it is best left alone to those who are proud of their heritage and history rather than throw muck on it !
9 years ago
rambabu liked a reply to the topic Dirty politics and vendetta by the grand old party !.
9 years ago
usha manohar replied to the topic Dirty politics and vendetta by the grand old party !.
One cannot put anything past the Congress party which will go to any length to stamp out opposition =lies, defamation and more if necessary.. so if there is smoke there must be fire somewhere ..
9 years ago
usha manohar replied to the topic Prominent North East leader Sangma dies.
Sangma was a straightforward person from what I have seen of him speaking to the media and his interviews... 'May his soul rest in peace !
9 years ago
Shampa Sadhya replied to the topic Prominent North East leader Sangma dies.
His date of birth 1st Sept. 1947 makes me say that he was one of those Indians who grew up along with independent India as he was just 16 days younger than Free India.
9 years ago
usha manohar replied to the topic Gross and blatant injustice to court employees .
Shampa Sadhya wrote:
usha manohar wrote:
Is this something new, since the time we got independence this sort of thing has been going on, orderlies and employees doing house work and even getting beaten when they dont make way, like it happened with Siddaramaiah when he beat a bureaucrat ( I guess that is not newsworthy) in Karnataka.. If one has to highlight one minor episode, I am sure there are hundreds of such humiliating incidents...employees carrying chappals of Jayalalitha, Rahul Gandi etc etc.. Here the judge has brought enough attention to himself by charging the employee, whereas i most cases they remain unknown..
Even some Police officer's case got highlighted who made a subordinate to put shoes in his feet. It shows their cheap mentality but it seems there is no end to it.
Of course it is as bad with the police department, One of my relative is married to a DCP in Bangalore and they have a driver,a gardener, a cook , a handyman to iron the shirts,uniforms and polish the shoes and a sidey who does all the odd jobs like pay bills and run errands and I was surprised to hear that most of them were constables who have completed their graduation...My cousin who is herself an Engineer finds nothing wrong in it which according to her is what they are due to get in their " Position" ...
9 years ago
Shampa Sadhya replied to the topic Gross and blatant injustice to court employees .
vijay wrote:
In Hindi there is a saying "Maale Muft Dile Beraham" meaning when goods are free the heart is merciless. When service is free, exploitation is heartless. Make them pay market rates and the wife will wash the helpers undergarments also.
You have made an accurate comment. Usually, it is noticed that the wives misbehave with the junior staves more than the officer does. They think that as they are the boss of their household so are they in connection to their husband's subordinates too.
9 years ago
rambabu replied to the topic Dirty politics and vendetta by the grand old party !.
Jincy Aby wrote:
Most of the political leaders are active in politics not for serving the people and their country. They know that politics is the best tool to increase their income. They cheat the people by doing corruption. They use the public wealth for private purposes. Our country won't have any development, if we give vote and select such people in elections. They know very well how to canvas people to get vote. Give your vote to the correct candidate.
Politicians have many tricks up to their sleeves to make money in the quickest possible time . They do anything for the sake of money.. But, right now people have become smart and are able to recognize the politicians tricks.
9 years ago
rambabu said thank you to suni51 for his/her reply to the topic Indian visa denied to U.S. body on religious freedom .
vijay wrote:
Yes Sunil that is the way. Make a counter proposal. Let us test their sincerity. Rambabu for once you can be fair and thank UPA govt also as they also had refused visa before Modi did it. It will be difficult but you can try.
And why do you think it's a counter proposal but a fair trade game? Let everyone play at the same ground and follow same rules.
9 years ago
Jincy Aby replied to the topic How you view mythology!.
Brain myth - a person's personality displays the right brain or left brain dominance. According to mythology, if a person is creative and emotional, he/she is right brained. if he/she is analytical and logical thinker then the person is left brained.
Actually, left and right- both sides are very important. They are well connected. If there is a ruling party, there is an opposition party also. Opposition party is there to find out the fault of ruling party. The ruling party can't function well without an opposition party. Like that, we have left brain and right brain, left hand and right hand. The damage in one side affect the other side also.
9 years ago
suni51 replied to the topic Indian visa denied to U.S. body on religious freedom .
vijay wrote:
Yes Sunil that is the way. Make a counter proposal. Let us test their sincerity. Rambabu for once you can be fair and thank UPA govt also as they also had refused visa before Modi did it. It will be difficult but you can try.
And why do you think it's a counter proposal but a fair trade game? Let everyone play at the same ground and follow same rules.
9 years ago
rambabu replied to the topic nationalism saffron style .
usha manohar wrote:
MG Singh wrote:
Let me inform readers that many in Saudi are convinced that India will similarly become Islamic nation in just another 100 years. Maybe the period is not correct, but the threat is real as it happened in Kashmir and East Pakistan. Remember entire Indonesia became Muslim inside 100 years as Buddhism and Hinduism was thrown out. Part of this due to the archaic practices of Hindus themselves and many who sided against their own community.
This is a real case scenario and must be guarded against
Yes of course , the rate at which they are growing here is proof of that...We also have politicians who are extremely communal when it comes to minority interests just to make sure that their positions are safe. I wish BJP and Modi takes a firm stand and brings in a uniform civil code which would be helpful to the nation and its interest, of course parties like Congress would oppose with all their might showing their communal tendencies but the large majority of the people will definitely support it !
You are right. There are politicians who direct all their endeavors to stall Modi's efforts to bring Uniform civil code. But Modi cannot be stopped in any condition.
9 years ago
vijay replied to the topic nationalism saffron style .
usha manohar wrote:
Kalyani Nandurkar wrote:
vijay wrote:
@Kalyani's passionate advocacy is indicative of the deep sense of hurt felt by a section of Hindus who believe that minorities have been pampered and their misdeeds are overlooked. She may well be right but may well be wrong depending which way one looks at the isue. Congress has portrayed BJP as anti Muslim and BJP has portrayed Congress as pro Muslim. Both have won votes on these portrayals. Both have compromised when it has suited then with extreme religious groups of the other side. The truth is somewhere in between. However increasing sensitivity has got injected which makes contrary views look very hostile and extreme reaction are freely expressed. There seems to be no leader of stature to calm the rising temperatures.
It is this very fact which you stated is the cause of such anguish and the reason for increasing rift amongst communities, that congress has and is vehemently trying to portray BJP as being Anti-Muslim, which it is not. Neither am I an anti-Muslim or anything close to it. I have some very great and dear friends from that community and am well aware of their current predicament which congress misrule has out them into. Under the guise of doing good, they only made a few handful religious figureheads of that community powerful who did not let progress of any kind trickle down to the lowest member of their following. BJP on the other hand is working hard in Kashmir, to bring Muslims close to other Indians, working hard for emancipation of neglected-by-congress NE states and all other remote places where congress leaders find it not in their best interests to go and work. If there is rising intolerance among Hindus, they cannot be blamed, you all are putting weapons into Muslims hands and then expect Hindus to thurst their necks forward to enable the weapon wielders to cut them easily, why? And of course, if you have reason to give a benefit of doubt to the Muslims for their deeds and good deeds, give the same space to Hindus too. It will not work and not be tolerated if Hindus are denied that space and freedom/ and coming to your statement on the absence of a substantial leader, at least try and give Modi five years where you have already given congress 65 years of free hand. Do not cry wolf when he is unable to repair the damage of 65 years in just 1.5 years.
Very true and I agree that too much is being expected of Modi and the opposition is going all out to pressurise him in every way possible without caring a hoot about the country or its development. Kashmir is another story altogether, ...This was a link I got today which sums up the Kashmir story as to how Hindus have become strangers in their own home uled by Hindus ..
The list of Kings are of Jammu and not Kashmir Valley. These are two different regions which were joined together along with Ladakh by British and handed over to Dogra kings and since called state of Jammu & Kashmir. From around 1300 AD Kashmir was continuously ruled by Muslim kings till British rule started. Abdullahas will naturally not figure in the list as they hailed from a middle class ordinary family. To support your point you should provide list of kings of Kashmir.
9 years ago
rambabu replied to the topic Prominent North East leader Sangma dies.
A spelling demon. Anyhow it's not going to matter.
9 years ago
usha manohar replied to the topic Let's discuss facts.
I think people need to get their facts right - According to his followers Mahishasura who is being worshiped coming from a small town close to Mysore in Karnataka was a tribal king . When his fame ( atrocities on everyone around him) became a source of worry he was killed by the brahmins ....Mythology is not taken into account here but being mixed up and given a different communal color altogether...If one can support this, one can support everything else including Godse since he too his many followers..Some may not agree but that is their personal or party view and does not stop others from believing what they want ..
9 years ago
usha manohar replied to the topic India finally coming to terms with its population...
No doubt it is working but there is also an imbalance in the manner in which it is working ..some communities grow while some reduce in size because they are consciously helping to reduce population !
9 years ago
suni51 replied to the topic Anti India slogan in JNU, Delhi.
Everyone who is seeing his position going down in politics is supporting Kanahiya. He's been invited by mamata Banerjee to campaign against BJP in WB's coming election. Everyone is out praising him. I think now he will be star campaigner in all forthcoming elections. A possible threat for crown prince as he will lose his ground if opposition decided to fight under Kanhaiya's leadership.
9 years ago
usha manohar replied to the topic nationalism saffron style .
There are bound to be Muslim kings in the valley since the Mughals and even Afghans ruled for a while , they also made sure that the entire place was looted and the place was left in misery. After 1846 it was Hindu Kings who ruled Jammu and Kashmir region until Independence when Congress made a mess of things which affects the country to this day ! A Nehruvian blunder !!!
http://www.koausa.org/Crown/history.html
9 years ago
usha manohar replied to the topic Anti India slogan in JNU, Delhi.
Kanhaiya is barely out on bail and still has a long way to go before he is proven innocent although AAP has given him a clean chit as expected since they would go to any length to defame the center, so their verdict hardly matters to the nation...But Kanhaiya is already showing his political colors - red in his case since he is apparently going to canvass for Left party in the coming WB elections !
9 years ago
usha manohar replied to the topic How you view mythology!.
Why should anyone be left right or center...Mythology is also a part of ones heritage and history.If one cannot digest it , it is best left alone to those who are proud of their heritage and history rather than throw muck on it !
9 years ago
rambabu liked a reply to the topic Dirty politics and vendetta by the grand old party !.
9 years ago
usha manohar replied to the topic Dirty politics and vendetta by the grand old party !.
One cannot put anything past the Congress party which will go to any length to stamp out opposition =lies, defamation and more if necessary.. so if there is smoke there must be fire somewhere ..
9 years ago
usha manohar replied to the topic Prominent North East leader Sangma dies.
Sangma was a straightforward person from what I have seen of him speaking to the media and his interviews... 'May his soul rest in peace !
9 years ago
Shampa Sadhya replied to the topic Prominent North East leader Sangma dies.
His date of birth 1st Sept. 1947 makes me say that he was one of those Indians who grew up along with independent India as he was just 16 days younger than Free India.
9 years ago
usha manohar replied to the topic Gross and blatant injustice to court employees .
Shampa Sadhya wrote:
usha manohar wrote:
Is this something new, since the time we got independence this sort of thing has been going on, orderlies and employees doing house work and even getting beaten when they dont make way, like it happened with Siddaramaiah when he beat a bureaucrat ( I guess that is not newsworthy) in Karnataka.. If one has to highlight one minor episode, I am sure there are hundreds of such humiliating incidents...employees carrying chappals of Jayalalitha, Rahul Gandi etc etc.. Here the judge has brought enough attention to himself by charging the employee, whereas i most cases they remain unknown..
Even some Police officer's case got highlighted who made a subordinate to put shoes in his feet. It shows their cheap mentality but it seems there is no end to it.
Of course it is as bad with the police department, One of my relative is married to a DCP in Bangalore and they have a driver,a gardener, a cook , a handyman to iron the shirts,uniforms and polish the shoes and a sidey who does all the odd jobs like pay bills and run errands and I was surprised to hear that most of them were constables who have completed their graduation...My cousin who is herself an Engineer finds nothing wrong in it which according to her is what they are due to get in their " Position" ...
9 years ago
Shampa Sadhya replied to the topic Gross and blatant injustice to court employees .
vijay wrote:
In Hindi there is a saying "Maale Muft Dile Beraham" meaning when goods are free the heart is merciless. When service is free, exploitation is heartless. Make them pay market rates and the wife will wash the helpers undergarments also.
You have made an accurate comment. Usually, it is noticed that the wives misbehave with the junior staves more than the officer does. They think that as they are the boss of their household so are they in connection to their husband's subordinates too.
9 years ago
rambabu replied to the topic Dirty politics and vendetta by the grand old party !.
Jincy Aby wrote:
Most of the political leaders are active in politics not for serving the people and their country. They know that politics is the best tool to increase their income. They cheat the people by doing corruption. They use the public wealth for private purposes. Our country won't have any development, if we give vote and select such people in elections. They know very well how to canvas people to get vote. Give your vote to the correct candidate.
Politicians have many tricks up to their sleeves to make money in the quickest possible time . They do anything for the sake of money.. But, right now people have become smart and are able to recognize the politicians tricks.
9 years ago
rambabu said thank you to suni51 for his/her reply to the topic Indian visa denied to U.S. body on religious freedom .
vijay wrote:
Yes Sunil that is the way. Make a counter proposal. Let us test their sincerity. Rambabu for once you can be fair and thank UPA govt also as they also had refused visa before Modi did it. It will be difficult but you can try.
And why do you think it's a counter proposal but a fair trade game? Let everyone play at the same ground and follow same rules.
9 years ago
Jincy Aby replied to the topic How you view mythology!.
Brain myth - a person's personality displays the right brain or left brain dominance. According to mythology, if a person is creative and emotional, he/she is right brained. if he/she is analytical and logical thinker then the person is left brained.
Actually, left and right- both sides are very important. They are well connected. If there is a ruling party, there is an opposition party also. Opposition party is there to find out the fault of ruling party. The ruling party can't function well without an opposition party. Like that, we have left brain and right brain, left hand and right hand. The damage in one side affect the other side also.
9 years ago
suni51 replied to the topic Indian visa denied to U.S. body on religious freedom .
vijay wrote:
Yes Sunil that is the way. Make a counter proposal. Let us test their sincerity. Rambabu for once you can be fair and thank UPA govt also as they also had refused visa before Modi did it. It will be difficult but you can try.
And why do you think it's a counter proposal but a fair trade game? Let everyone play at the same ground and follow same rules.
9 years ago
rambabu replied to the topic nationalism saffron style .
usha manohar wrote:
MG Singh wrote:
Let me inform readers that many in Saudi are convinced that India will similarly become Islamic nation in just another 100 years. Maybe the period is not correct, but the threat is real as it happened in Kashmir and East Pakistan. Remember entire Indonesia became Muslim inside 100 years as Buddhism and Hinduism was thrown out. Part of this due to the archaic practices of Hindus themselves and many who sided against their own community.
This is a real case scenario and must be guarded against
Yes of course , the rate at which they are growing here is proof of that...We also have politicians who are extremely communal when it comes to minority interests just to make sure that their positions are safe. I wish BJP and Modi takes a firm stand and brings in a uniform civil code which would be helpful to the nation and its interest, of course parties like Congress would oppose with all their might showing their communal tendencies but the large majority of the people will definitely support it !
You are right. There are politicians who direct all their endeavors to stall Modi's efforts to bring Uniform civil code. But Modi cannot be stopped in any condition.
9 years ago
vijay replied to the topic nationalism saffron style .
usha manohar wrote:
Kalyani Nandurkar wrote:
vijay wrote:
@Kalyani's passionate advocacy is indicative of the deep sense of hurt felt by a section of Hindus who believe that minorities have been pampered and their misdeeds are overlooked. She may well be right but may well be wrong depending which way one looks at the isue. Congress has portrayed BJP as anti Muslim and BJP has portrayed Congress as pro Muslim. Both have won votes on these portrayals. Both have compromised when it has suited then with extreme religious groups of the other side. The truth is somewhere in between. However increasing sensitivity has got injected which makes contrary views look very hostile and extreme reaction are freely expressed. There seems to be no leader of stature to calm the rising temperatures.
It is this very fact which you stated is the cause of such anguish and the reason for increasing rift amongst communities, that congress has and is vehemently trying to portray BJP as being Anti-Muslim, which it is not. Neither am I an anti-Muslim or anything close to it. I have some very great and dear friends from that community and am well aware of their current predicament which congress misrule has out them into. Under the guise of doing good, they only made a few handful religious figureheads of that community powerful who did not let progress of any kind trickle down to the lowest member of their following. BJP on the other hand is working hard in Kashmir, to bring Muslims close to other Indians, working hard for emancipation of neglected-by-congress NE states and all other remote places where congress leaders find it not in their best interests to go and work. If there is rising intolerance among Hindus, they cannot be blamed, you all are putting weapons into Muslims hands and then expect Hindus to thurst their necks forward to enable the weapon wielders to cut them easily, why? And of course, if you have reason to give a benefit of doubt to the Muslims for their deeds and good deeds, give the same space to Hindus too. It will not work and not be tolerated if Hindus are denied that space and freedom/ and coming to your statement on the absence of a substantial leader, at least try and give Modi five years where you have already given congress 65 years of free hand. Do not cry wolf when he is unable to repair the damage of 65 years in just 1.5 years.
Very true and I agree that too much is being expected of Modi and the opposition is going all out to pressurise him in every way possible without caring a hoot about the country or its development. Kashmir is another story altogether, ...This was a link I got today which sums up the Kashmir story as to how Hindus have become strangers in their own home uled by Hindus ..
The list of Kings are of Jammu and not Kashmir Valley. These are two different regions which were joined together along with Ladakh by British and handed over to Dogra kings and since called state of Jammu & Kashmir. From around 1300 AD Kashmir was continuously ruled by Muslim kings till British rule started. Abdullahas will naturally not figure in the list as they hailed from a middle class ordinary family. To support your point you should provide list of kings of Kashmir.
9 years ago
rambabu replied to the topic Prominent North East leader Sangma dies.
A spelling demon. Anyhow it's not going to matter.
9 years ago