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rambabu replied to the topic Minority ( Islam Christian) do not wish to be ruled by Hindus. They still have grandiose dreams of Muslim rule and British rule when chirtiisns had a free run.
vijay wrote:
Discussing same topic over and over again should not be encouraged as that does not lead to any meaningful discussions. But I am no one to stop interested members from doing so. When Rambabu runs out of arguments he earns points by clicking like button but not replying. Can Rambabu or MGSingh provide proof that Muslims have said they do not want to be ruled by Hindus. In India elections are heldon one man one vote where religion does not come into play. Figments of imagination are sought to be converted into issues. and
Rambabu weighs and sees if some responses are worthy of responding or simply thrown in the trash can. Cock and bull stories are never responded. A Globe trotter and highly respected members' views are accepted.
9 years ago
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani replied to the topic Minority ( Islam Christian) do not wish to be ruled by Hindus. They still have grandiose dreams of Muslim rule and British rule when chirtiisns had a free run.
vijay wrote:
Discussing same topic over and over again should not be encouraged as that does not lead to any meaningful discussions. But I am no one to stop interested members from doing so. When Rambabu runs out of arguments he earns points by clicking like button but not replying. Can Rambabu or MGSingh provide proof that Muslims have said they do not want to be ruled by Hindus. In India elections are heldon one man one vote where religion does not come into play. Figments of imagination are sought to be converted into issues.
There is no Muslim leader who said that rule by Hindu is not acceptable. In fact, nobody in his senses would say so. India is governed by system of parliamentary system or adult franchise. In fact, the provocative suggestions like disenfranchising the minority community come from BJP leaders like Subramaniam Swamy. The notion of 'Hindu Rashtra' is of the R.S.S. No Muslim organization can talk of Islamic rule in India. So, it is clear who is fascist.
9 years ago
9 years ago
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani replied to the topic Anti India slogan in JNU, Delhi.
usha manohar wrote:
I guess some of our members seem to know more than what has been revealed by the investigating agencies...The half truths spread by the communal party , communist party and its allies are being fed here as gospel truth !
The videos- at least some have been detected as forged/ doctored by Forensic lab at Hyderabd. The Delhi government has consequently given clean chit to the accused in JNU case. Let us wait for final court decision. The fact of doctoring of videos is now well known.
9 years ago
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani said thank you to vijay for his/her reply to the topic An Interesting Read For everyone....
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani wrote:
chinmoymukherjee wrote:
As long as every member gets a fair and an equal opportunity to put forth his or her views any talk of oppression of minority is not right.In the past my line of arguments was not to the liking of many and those were rebutted by them I never saw any trace of fascism in that. The platform of boddunan will remain and should remain one which reflects the broad spectrum of public opinion on all matters.If a member is obsessed with a particular topic and others happen to stand by him or her not much can be done unless the administration spells out its stand on putting restrictions on certain topics.For the time being fire on all cylinders with the ammo you have to outfire your opponents!! After all it is only a debate!! Cheers!!
Sir, there is nothing fascism about our discussion. Some have said that Hindus are being described as fascists. This is not so. As long as you follow your own religion and let others also follow theirs, you respect independence of thoughts and expression irrespective of differences, there is no fascism.
But the tendency to force certain ideology (clearly the aggressive Hinduism) and brand all others as anti national is fascism. Despite fear of repetition, I say that as long as you respect the principle of unity in diversity, you are nationalist. But when you link nationalism to a particular religion and its practices and brand all others as anti nationalist, fascism is there.
Gulshanji after reading Chinmoy's needelessly harsh comments you must have felt like saying "et tu Brutus". Such is the power of divisive forces.
9 years ago
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani replied to the topic Shameless dialogues of a popular Senior actor and Politician of AP.
The link is not opening and so can't know the exact dialogues. If the dialogues are vulgar are an insult to anyone or offensive, he should express regret.
9 years ago
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani replied to the topic what is secularism?.
MG Singh wrote:
People who champion Madrasa and personal laws for Muslims do this without batting an eyelid. These so called intellectuls don't want to look at Turkey where in 1924 all Muslim schools were banned as well as tradiational Muslim dress. The Turks even adopted western dress like skirt. I went once to Istanbul and could not distinguish it from a Western city. Even in Goa there is ONE civil code. Why cant it be done in rest of India ? To say that people who ask for a uniform code and one law are fascists and dividing the nation makes me sorry for them. Targetting BJP and RSS is their favorite passtime.
I support same education for all under a common syllabus without any religion based education. Religious education if any could be a balanced one covering all religions and aiming at development as good future citizens. But you can't single out Madarasa. Then you have to abolish all religion based schools- Hindu, Muslim, Sikh etc, including saraswati schools of RSS.
9 years ago
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani replied to the topic Can anyone tell how dowry has been created at first..
Dowry is an initial investment to enable young couple to begin married life. This is like initial capital in a business enterprise. The system has become very undesirable because of greed.
9 years ago
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani replied to the topic Would you like to read and see this?.
The issue of intolerance was discussed in the event. It is obvious that every speaker would have in mind his political affiliations- likes and dislikes. In this context, we need see the participation by Anupam Kher and others. I just went through brilliant speech of Barkha Dutt. Her speech is indeed factual and more sincere.
On tolerance, I got a very good quote- We must be intolerant of intolerance.
9 years ago
Bajirao liked a reply to the topic Can anyone tell how dowry has been created at first..
9 years ago
Bajirao replied to the topic Would you like to read and see this?.
Anupam Kher is an intelligent person, his speech seems to be very motivating. His speech has started the fit of debate and discussion to which Barkha Dutt replied in an intelligent way. I think every one are expressing their political views here.
9 years ago
sarala replied to the topic Can anyone tell how dowry has been created at first..
dowry is just a small help to the people who took the responsibility to make arrangements of marriage. Earlier mostly bridegroom parents used to take the responsibility so the bride parents used to help them by giving little amount. later with time it became compulsory for bride parents to give dowry and even became in such a way bride groom parents started demanding
9 years ago
usha manohar replied to the topic what is secularism?.
Jincy Aby wrote:
usha manohar wrote:
Of course this is a known fact because the so called secular laws are for Hindus only ! They have to practice family planning and abide by all laws laid down by the constitution whereas both Muslims and Christians can have their own laws with regard to marriage, divorce and property ! And on top of that the majority community is discouraged from not discussing about these special rules made for them...Our nation is communal not secular !
There are some laws in Christian religion. But the religion never compel people to obey there rules. People have complete freedom to reject a particular law if they can't follow. But in Muslim religion, they ought to obey the laws of Islamic.
No country pampers minorities like our country does and this is bad all round because it breeds discontent among the majority community and minorities take things for granted , even manipulate the system as and when they can...If we see countries like Germany and France where they have a large number of Muslims , Hindus, Sikhs and others , the law remains the same for all...They have to follow one uniform law, no head gear, no burkha ...Muslims are not unhappy there because they are treated at par with others but they also cannot manipulate the system.Any unrest has come now because of the generosity of these nations, who have given assylum to a large number of Arabs , among whom there were traitors who showed their true colors by biting the hand that fed them..Otherwise , with a uniform law people remain much more happier and there will be no reason for complaint! I sincerely wish Modi gets to rule for at least 10 years because that is the time he requires to set this nation straight and bring in some much needed changes..change some moth eaten laws to begin with !
9 years ago
rambabu replied to the topic Can anyone tell how dowry has been created at first..
Dowry is as old as Indian culture. Even in Vedic time the Dowry was prevalent. And it has been in mentioned in Indian Puranas.
9 years ago
rambabu replied to the topic Minority ( Islam Christian) do not wish to be ruled by Hindus. They still have grandiose dreams of Muslim rule and British rule when chirtiisns had a free run.
vijay wrote:
Discussing same topic over and over again should not be encouraged as that does not lead to any meaningful discussions. But I am no one to stop interested members from doing so. When Rambabu runs out of arguments he earns points by clicking like button but not replying. Can Rambabu or MGSingh provide proof that Muslims have said they do not want to be ruled by Hindus. In India elections are heldon one man one vote where religion does not come into play. Figments of imagination are sought to be converted into issues. and
Rambabu weighs and sees if some responses are worthy of responding or simply thrown in the trash can. Cock and bull stories are never responded. A Globe trotter and highly respected members' views are accepted.
9 years ago
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani replied to the topic Minority ( Islam Christian) do not wish to be ruled by Hindus. They still have grandiose dreams of Muslim rule and British rule when chirtiisns had a free run.
vijay wrote:
Discussing same topic over and over again should not be encouraged as that does not lead to any meaningful discussions. But I am no one to stop interested members from doing so. When Rambabu runs out of arguments he earns points by clicking like button but not replying. Can Rambabu or MGSingh provide proof that Muslims have said they do not want to be ruled by Hindus. In India elections are heldon one man one vote where religion does not come into play. Figments of imagination are sought to be converted into issues.
There is no Muslim leader who said that rule by Hindu is not acceptable. In fact, nobody in his senses would say so. India is governed by system of parliamentary system or adult franchise. In fact, the provocative suggestions like disenfranchising the minority community come from BJP leaders like Subramaniam Swamy. The notion of 'Hindu Rashtra' is of the R.S.S. No Muslim organization can talk of Islamic rule in India. So, it is clear who is fascist.
9 years ago
9 years ago
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani replied to the topic Anti India slogan in JNU, Delhi.
usha manohar wrote:
I guess some of our members seem to know more than what has been revealed by the investigating agencies...The half truths spread by the communal party , communist party and its allies are being fed here as gospel truth !
The videos- at least some have been detected as forged/ doctored by Forensic lab at Hyderabd. The Delhi government has consequently given clean chit to the accused in JNU case. Let us wait for final court decision. The fact of doctoring of videos is now well known.
9 years ago
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani said thank you to vijay for his/her reply to the topic An Interesting Read For everyone....
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani wrote:
chinmoymukherjee wrote:
As long as every member gets a fair and an equal opportunity to put forth his or her views any talk of oppression of minority is not right.In the past my line of arguments was not to the liking of many and those were rebutted by them I never saw any trace of fascism in that. The platform of boddunan will remain and should remain one which reflects the broad spectrum of public opinion on all matters.If a member is obsessed with a particular topic and others happen to stand by him or her not much can be done unless the administration spells out its stand on putting restrictions on certain topics.For the time being fire on all cylinders with the ammo you have to outfire your opponents!! After all it is only a debate!! Cheers!!
Sir, there is nothing fascism about our discussion. Some have said that Hindus are being described as fascists. This is not so. As long as you follow your own religion and let others also follow theirs, you respect independence of thoughts and expression irrespective of differences, there is no fascism.
But the tendency to force certain ideology (clearly the aggressive Hinduism) and brand all others as anti national is fascism. Despite fear of repetition, I say that as long as you respect the principle of unity in diversity, you are nationalist. But when you link nationalism to a particular religion and its practices and brand all others as anti nationalist, fascism is there.
Gulshanji after reading Chinmoy's needelessly harsh comments you must have felt like saying "et tu Brutus". Such is the power of divisive forces.
9 years ago
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani replied to the topic Shameless dialogues of a popular Senior actor and Politician of AP.
The link is not opening and so can't know the exact dialogues. If the dialogues are vulgar are an insult to anyone or offensive, he should express regret.
9 years ago
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani replied to the topic what is secularism?.
MG Singh wrote:
People who champion Madrasa and personal laws for Muslims do this without batting an eyelid. These so called intellectuls don't want to look at Turkey where in 1924 all Muslim schools were banned as well as tradiational Muslim dress. The Turks even adopted western dress like skirt. I went once to Istanbul and could not distinguish it from a Western city. Even in Goa there is ONE civil code. Why cant it be done in rest of India ? To say that people who ask for a uniform code and one law are fascists and dividing the nation makes me sorry for them. Targetting BJP and RSS is their favorite passtime.
I support same education for all under a common syllabus without any religion based education. Religious education if any could be a balanced one covering all religions and aiming at development as good future citizens. But you can't single out Madarasa. Then you have to abolish all religion based schools- Hindu, Muslim, Sikh etc, including saraswati schools of RSS.
9 years ago
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani replied to the topic Can anyone tell how dowry has been created at first..
Dowry is an initial investment to enable young couple to begin married life. This is like initial capital in a business enterprise. The system has become very undesirable because of greed.
9 years ago
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani replied to the topic Would you like to read and see this?.
The issue of intolerance was discussed in the event. It is obvious that every speaker would have in mind his political affiliations- likes and dislikes. In this context, we need see the participation by Anupam Kher and others. I just went through brilliant speech of Barkha Dutt. Her speech is indeed factual and more sincere.
On tolerance, I got a very good quote- We must be intolerant of intolerance.
9 years ago
Bajirao liked a reply to the topic Can anyone tell how dowry has been created at first..
9 years ago
Bajirao replied to the topic Would you like to read and see this?.
Anupam Kher is an intelligent person, his speech seems to be very motivating. His speech has started the fit of debate and discussion to which Barkha Dutt replied in an intelligent way. I think every one are expressing their political views here.
9 years ago
sarala replied to the topic Can anyone tell how dowry has been created at first..
dowry is just a small help to the people who took the responsibility to make arrangements of marriage. Earlier mostly bridegroom parents used to take the responsibility so the bride parents used to help them by giving little amount. later with time it became compulsory for bride parents to give dowry and even became in such a way bride groom parents started demanding
9 years ago
usha manohar replied to the topic what is secularism?.
Jincy Aby wrote:
usha manohar wrote:
Of course this is a known fact because the so called secular laws are for Hindus only ! They have to practice family planning and abide by all laws laid down by the constitution whereas both Muslims and Christians can have their own laws with regard to marriage, divorce and property ! And on top of that the majority community is discouraged from not discussing about these special rules made for them...Our nation is communal not secular !
There are some laws in Christian religion. But the religion never compel people to obey there rules. People have complete freedom to reject a particular law if they can't follow. But in Muslim religion, they ought to obey the laws of Islamic.
No country pampers minorities like our country does and this is bad all round because it breeds discontent among the majority community and minorities take things for granted , even manipulate the system as and when they can...If we see countries like Germany and France where they have a large number of Muslims , Hindus, Sikhs and others , the law remains the same for all...They have to follow one uniform law, no head gear, no burkha ...Muslims are not unhappy there because they are treated at par with others but they also cannot manipulate the system.Any unrest has come now because of the generosity of these nations, who have given assylum to a large number of Arabs , among whom there were traitors who showed their true colors by biting the hand that fed them..Otherwise , with a uniform law people remain much more happier and there will be no reason for complaint! I sincerely wish Modi gets to rule for at least 10 years because that is the time he requires to set this nation straight and bring in some much needed changes..change some moth eaten laws to begin with !
9 years ago
rambabu replied to the topic Can anyone tell how dowry has been created at first..
Dowry is as old as Indian culture. Even in Vedic time the Dowry was prevalent. And it has been in mentioned in Indian Puranas.
9 years ago