Eid- litearlly means festival. Today is Eid-ul- zuha which means- festival of sacrifice. This festival gives message of universal brotherhood and sacrifice. On this day, people sacrifice goat or some other animal, wear new clothes and rejoice. People also hug each other as this is a festival of universal brotherhood.
Nice question asked Santosh which has been roaming in my thoughts from quiet sometime...Universal brotherhood is a very big word and till now no region or religion has satisfied it...Sacrifice...Does that mean sacrifying a living beings life??? Neither the word brotherhood nor Sacrifice suites the intention here..
Sorry friends if I hurt anyones emotions and I dont have any hatred on particular religion..I just wanted to know do the intention of the festival is completely satisfied or not..If I am wrong in though I would rectify my thoughts... :blink:
As it's an important festival for the Muslim people I wished my friends belonging to it well!As far as the sacrificial part I dislike it which is practised in Hindu religious occasions too!
Rajani K wrote:
[quote]Nice question asked Santosh which has been roaming in my thoughts from quiet sometime...Universal brotherhood is a very big word and till now no region or religion has satisfied it...Sacrifice...Does that mean sacrifying a living beings life??? Neither the word brotherhood nor Sacrifice suites the intention here..
Sorry friends if I hurt anyones emotions and I dont have any hatred on particular religion..I just wanted to know do the intention of the festival is completely satisfied or not..If I am wrong in though I would rectify my thoughts... :blink:[/quote]
Universal brotherhood means brotherhood between mankind. You may be kind to animals but they cannot be your brothers or sisters. Sacrifice means 'animal sacrifice'. This is not peculiar to Id Ul zuha celebrated by Muslims. animal sacrifice is also by Hindus on Dussehra in Nepal and elsewhere. Animal sacrifice is prevalent in West Bengal and Bihar to please kali and other deities.
Personally, I do not believe in animal sacrifice but wish to reiterate that this is not peculiar to Muslims but is common among all.
Gulshan and chinmoy I know that Hindus do have this practice of animal sacrifise and I am not comparing the two religions at all..The main aim of my statement is to say that how can the atmosphere be cool with bloodshed of animal sacrifise? I agree that it maybe ritual but somehow not at all pleasant to watch or feel. :S
Let us try to spread the message of peace and harmony on this occasion.Though I too dislike the sacrifice of animals to God it is a bitter truth many religions follow it.
Rajani K wrote:
[quote]Gulshan and chinmoy I know that Hindus do have this practice of animal sacrifise and I am not comparing the two religions at all..The main aim of my statement is to say that how can the atmosphere be cool with bloodshed of animal sacrifise? I agree that it maybe ritual but somehow not at all pleasant to watch or feel. :S[/quote]
There is diversity of views and tendencies in mankind. That is why different faiths emerged from time to time. animal sacrifice was largely and now also to some extent part of Hindu religion and traditions. Buddhism emerged as a reaction to traditional Hindu religion based on Yagna and animal sacrifice. Jainism another offshoot of Hinduism also is totally non violent.
But violence is also part of life. We cannot remove it altogether. Thus, this will also continue with faith of many. Also, non vegetarian food is diet of many. Religious practices follow personal preferences. Thus those whose food is non veg also offer this to their deities.
nagalakshmi.karunanidhi wrote:
[quote]Let us try to spread the message of peace and harmony on this occasion.Though I too dislike the sacrifice of animals to God it is a bitter truth many religions follow it.[/quote]
i agree with nagalakshmi and rajani...........and it is no where written in any religion book to sacrifice animals...
neetu jain wrote:
[quote]nagalakshmi.karunanidhi wrote:
[quote]Let us try to spread the message of peace and harmony on this occasion.Though I too dislike the sacrifice of animals to God it is a bitter truth many religions follow it.[/quote]
i agree with nagalakshmi and rajani...........and it is no where written in any religion book to sacrifice animals...[/quote]
I also disagree with animal sacrifice. But we cannot say that this is prohibited in any religion. Those who make such sacrifice- may be on Id-ul-zuha or kali worship- in Bengal or Nepal do according to religious scriptures only.
Buddhism and Jainism are against animal sacrifice but Vedic Hindu and Islam are not. Our personal opinion cannot change the facts.
My intention to fire this question is not for Muslims or festival or any other religion but my intension was that sacrificing goat or any other animal is not right things its painful for animal or any other persone who can not see sacrificing position of animal or goat so if its wrong and you all religion person know it then why you are doing this things.
My intention was also that..but as Gulshan said rituals and beliefs cannot change completely and it depends on individual thinking whether to follow them or not...But I personally cannot celebrate in such a environment and i never follow such beliefs.. :)
Santosh Kumar Singh wrote:
[quote]My intention to fire this question is not for Muslims or festival or any other religion but my intension was that sacrificing goat or any other animal is not right things its painful for animal or any other persone who can not see sacrificing position of animal or goat so if its wrong and you all religion person know it then why you are doing this things.
is it celebration to become happy.[/quote]
Santosh- I personally agree with you. But the religious practices of sacrificing goats and other animals will not be stopped by Hindus as well as Muslims. The emergence of Buddhism and Jainism could not stop them. all that we can do is to spread the message of love to all and cruelty to none. We may get some success.
I feel that religion has no role here.It all depends on our mind set.If we wish not to sacrifice animals we can stick to our thoughts and spread the message to our future generation.There should be a change in the way we think.Also,I am not sure whether any of our spirutual books mention that sacrifices are mandatory to get blessings from God?
nagalakshmi.karunanidhi wrote:
[quote]I feel that religion has no role here.It all depends on our mind set.If we wish not to sacrifice animals we can stick to our thoughts and spread the message to our future generation.There should be a change in the way we think.Also,I am not sure whether any of our spiritual books mention that sacrifices are mandatory to get blessings from God?[/quote]
I believe that religion has only negative role. I also agree that our mindset matters most. We are free to spread our message.
We need not look to spiritual books. Animal sacrifice is physical and not spiritual. Only celebrators of Id Ul Zuha and disciples of Kali and Bhairav can explain the logic behind animal sacrifice. Incidentally, i may mention that Hindu Tantriks even make human sacrifice.
Let us speak for well being of all. But we cannot compel the followers of cult of violence or animal sacrifice to fall in line. This is a very difficult and long process.