Kashmir situation

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The situation in the valley is red hot. For the first time in 72 years, the government has curtailed the Amarnath Yatra and asked tourists to cut short stay and leave, This shows  the situation is worsening. Why did this happen? We can always blame Nehru for it but that is like flogging a dead horse. The ~BJP had a stint earler for 6 years and now for 5 years but they did nothing to rectify. Another 10,000 para miliatary soildiers are inducted but its small comsolation as the. ~Yatra is aborted. The only solution is to change teh demographic composition of the valley. China s doing it in Sinkiang and  Bangladesh did it in the Chittagong hill tracts.  There is no other solution and Modi must fearlessly strikeout. He could do it but speed is of the essence and bland talk will lead nowhere.

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anil wrote:
epraneeth77 wrote:

India will easily take good care of Kashmir, only thing is to manage the wrong statements and rumours,

Yes Pakistan is using rumors as a weapon. They are not able to do any thing against India. Today I read is news paper, Imran Khan said that Indian nuclear bombs are in control of wrong person. BJP is Hindu supporter so countries of world think for it. 

Imran calls India fascist racist Hindu leadership and ideology. Just because Hinduism has gained a little more importance in the past few years, Imran has used these statements, since he cannot digest the fact that Hinduism importance is growing to the level, that it is required to be.

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2019/08/19/pakistan-pm-imran-khan-calls-world-pay-attention-indias-fascist-racist-hindu

What is there in Saudi, Arab and Muslim Countries, a universal ideology? Every Country where religion has prominence, most of them have religion as prominence, have rules in relation to the majority of their population's religion.

But even then, India is a supporter of all religions, but since Hindutva current was rather feeble than what it needs to be, atleast in a Hindu dominated Country, Hinduism importance was raised.

epraneeth77 wrote:
anil wrote:
epraneeth77 wrote:

India will easily take good care of Kashmir, only thing is to manage the wrong statements and rumours,

Yes Pakistan is using rumors as a weapon. They are not able to do any thing against India. Today I read is news paper, Imran Khan said that Indian nuclear bombs are in control of wrong person. BJP is Hindu supporter so countries of world think for it. 

Imran calls India fascist racist Hindu leadership and ideology. Just because Hinduism has gained a little more importance in the past few years, Imran has used these statements, since he cannot digest the fact that Hinduism importance is growing to the level, that it is required to be.

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2019/08/19/pakistan-pm-imran-khan-calls-world-pay-attention-indias-fascist-racist-hindu

What is there in Saudi, Arab and Muslim Countries, a universal ideology? Every Country where religion has prominence, most of them have religion as prominence, have rules in relation to the majority of their population's religion.

But even then, India is a supporter of all religions, but since Hindutva current was rather feeble than what it needs to be, atleast in a Hindu dominated Country, Hinduism importance was raised.

What is wrong in it if Hinduism gets importance in a country where most of population is of Hindus. India is a country who hug peoples of all religions. But what they get from these, slavery of thousand years. Hindu can hug peoples of other religion but they never allowed to strangulation.

Pakistan and China have no right to call India a Fascist country. India is a perfect example of secularism in world. These two countries are the ones who have the worst atrocities against minorities and the whole world knows about it. They have been slammed at UN too. 

These two countries have to first settle things in their backyard before criticizing India. Hong Kong crisis is a big challenge to China and it is not going to die easily. It is picking up each day. Balochistan is going to be upsetting for Pakistan.

epraneeth77 wrote:

https://in.news.yahoo.com/pakistan-no-longer-seek-talks-223129853.html

Now Pakistan has taken another step in the direction of its destruction.

Instead of taking action against terror groups, they are working for the terror groups, to attack Indian Army.

This policy will be proved blunder mistake of Pakistan. Pakistan PM is spreading rumors that India government can commit mass murder in valley of a community. Pakistan is  moving towards civil war. It better for Pakistan first to care them self, instead of worrying about other country.

I think there are hell lot of rumours spreading now, because Kashmir is filled with provoked terrorism by Pakistan and their behaviour is not so sane or clear about what they are doing.

Hence they aren't happy with the decision. However in the future they will know the value and benefit of being with India, which is it's legal position.

They will then be happy inside that thankfully Kashmir was not a part of Pakistan.

In fact, now only they should understand that, if not India, will they want to be in Pakistan? which is under poverty, terrorism, etc

India should take a leaf out of how China solved ( almost) the problem of Muslim extremism in Sinkiang and apply it to the valley. China solved the problem by settling Chinese from other parts of China like Manchuria etc and so changed the demographic composition of the state. Chinese also married Muslim girls and extremists were all herded into camps for "education" Think over it.

anil wrote:
epraneeth77 wrote:
anil wrote:
epraneeth77 wrote:

India will easily take good care of Kashmir, only thing is to manage the wrong statements and rumours,

Yes Pakistan is using rumors as a weapon. They are not able to do any thing against India. Today I read is news paper, Imran Khan said that Indian nuclear bombs are in control of wrong person. BJP is Hindu supporter so countries of world think for it. 

Imran calls India fascist racist Hindu leadership and ideology. Just because Hinduism has gained a little more importance in the past few years, Imran has used these statements, since he cannot digest the fact that Hinduism importance is growing to the level, that it is required to be.

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2019/08/19/pakistan-pm-imran-khan-calls-world-pay-attention-indias-fascist-racist-hindu

What is there in Saudi, Arab and Muslim Countries, a universal ideology? Every Country where religion has prominence, most of them have religion as prominence, have rules in relation to the majority of their population's religion.

But even then, India is a supporter of all religions, but since Hindutva current was rather feeble than what it needs to be, atleast in a Hindu dominated Country, Hinduism importance was raised.

What is wrong in it if Hinduism gets importance in a country where most of population is of Hindus. India is a country who hug peoples of all religions. But what they get from these, slavery of thousand years. Hindu can hug peoples of other religion but they never allowed to strangulation.

Hindus lost power for 900 hears because the concept as laid down was "meek and mild "Hindu. This needs to change, in case Hinduism is to survive. Let's not forget that Gandhi and Jinnah agreed on two-nation theory and so its right and proper to declare India a Hindu state.

MG Singh wrote:
anil wrote:
epraneeth77 wrote:
anil wrote:
epraneeth77 wrote:

India will easily take good care of Kashmir, only thing is to manage the wrong statements and rumours,

Yes Pakistan is using rumors as a weapon. They are not able to do any thing against India. Today I read is news paper, Imran Khan said that Indian nuclear bombs are in control of wrong person. BJP is Hindu supporter so countries of world think for it. 

Imran calls India fascist racist Hindu leadership and ideology. Just because Hinduism has gained a little more importance in the past few years, Imran has used these statements, since he cannot digest the fact that Hinduism importance is growing to the level, that it is required to be.

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2019/08/19/pakistan-pm-imran-khan-calls-world-pay-attention-indias-fascist-racist-hindu

What is there in Saudi, Arab and Muslim Countries, a universal ideology? Every Country where religion has prominence, most of them have religion as prominence, have rules in relation to the majority of their population's religion.

But even then, India is a supporter of all religions, but since Hindutva current was rather feeble than what it needs to be, atleast in a Hindu dominated Country, Hinduism importance was raised.

What is wrong in it if Hinduism gets importance in a country where most of population is of Hindus. India is a country who hug peoples of all religions. But what they get from these, slavery of thousand years. Hindu can hug peoples of other religion but they never allowed to strangulation.

Hindus lost power for 900 hears because the concept as laid down was "meek and mild "Hindu. This needs to change, in case Hinduism is to survive. Let's not forget that Gandhi and Jinnah agreed on two-nation theory and so its right and proper to declare India a Hindu state.

True, Hindu's perception in the world around should change, with dynamic leaders of the current government, already each minister is getting their due respect, not only in the nation, but from around the world.

India cannot be declared a Hindu state, but it's ideas of living should revolve around Hinduism and harmony of religions.

epraneeth77 wrote:
MG Singh wrote:
anil wrote:
epraneeth77 wrote:
anil wrote:
epraneeth77 wrote:

India will easily take good care of Kashmir, only thing is to manage the wrong statements and rumours,

Yes Pakistan is using rumors as a weapon. They are not able to do any thing against India. Today I read is news paper, Imran Khan said that Indian nuclear bombs are in control of wrong person. BJP is Hindu supporter so countries of world think for it. 

Imran calls India fascist racist Hindu leadership and ideology. Just because Hinduism has gained a little more importance in the past few years, Imran has used these statements, since he cannot digest the fact that Hinduism importance is growing to the level, that it is required to be.

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2019/08/19/pakistan-pm-imran-khan-calls-world-pay-attention-indias-fascist-racist-hindu

What is there in Saudi, Arab and Muslim Countries, a universal ideology? Every Country where religion has prominence, most of them have religion as prominence, have rules in relation to the majority of their population's religion.

But even then, India is a supporter of all religions, but since Hindutva current was rather feeble than what it needs to be, atleast in a Hindu dominated Country, Hinduism importance was raised.

What is wrong in it if Hinduism gets importance in a country where most of population is of Hindus. India is a country who hug peoples of all religions. But what they get from these, slavery of thousand years. Hindu can hug peoples of other religion but they never allowed to strangulation.

Hindus lost power for 900 hears because the concept as laid down was "meek and mild "Hindu. This needs to change, in case Hinduism is to survive. Let's not forget that Gandhi and Jinnah agreed on two-nation theory and so its right and proper to declare India a Hindu state.

True, Hindu's perception in the world around should change, with dynamic leaders of the current government, already each minister is getting their due respect, not only in the nation, but from around the world.

India cannot be declared a Hindu state, but it's ideas of living should revolve around Hinduism and harmony of religions.

Almost all developed nations across the world  have a state religion , so I do t see why India cannot be declared a Hindu nation since Hindus have only one nation to call their own..

Almost all developed nations across the world  have a state religion , so I do t see why India cannot be declared a Hindu nation since Hindus have only one nation to call as their own. Many nations with even 50./. Population recognize the majority religon so why not us ? I feel it solves a lot of communal problems

usha manohar wrote:

Almost all developed nations across the world  have a state religion , so I do t see why India cannot be declared a Hindu nation since Hindus have only one nation to call as their own. Many nations with even 50./. Population recognize the majority religon so why not us ? I feel it solves a lot of communal problems

I did not know that every Country had their own state religion, in that case I think very rightly it can be declared as a Hindu state.

Then we will see the Mamata, Sonia and other tukde tukde gang opposing it calling it communal. If they do so, they will completely forgotten by the people.

I think the reason India is not declared as a Hindu state and 2 children law, is that there will be a lot of opposition from Muslim community.

usha manohar wrote:

Almost all developed nations across the world  have a state religion , so I do t see why India cannot be declared a Hindu nation since Hindus have only one nation to call as their own. Many nations with even 50./. Population recognize the majority religon so why not us ? I feel it solves a lot of communal problems

I know! When secular countries such as France, Germany etc. can be recognised officially as Christian countries, why can India not declare itself a Hindu nation officially. Adopting a secular recognition has actually damaged the moral fabric of our country and only by declaring us a Hindu nation , can it be repaired. Hindus are in no way intolerant towards other religions but we as a community, need ourselves to be recognised officially by the religion that follow.

We are heading toward the philosophy of Hinduism slowly but it's not possible to change the status of India so easily.

suni51 wrote:

We are heading toward the philosophy of Hinduism slowly but it's not possible to change the status of India so easily.

I think the main opposition will come from muslim fraternity, as i guess, jain, sikh, parsi will not oppose the decision. Also Christian community also will raise their objection.

suni51 wrote:

We are heading toward the philosophy of Hinduism slowly but it's not possible to change the status of India so easily.

Yes, it might take time but it will happen now for certain.

Also I wish to point out to those who keep saying that Hindus are meek, just think again, if Hindus were really meek, weak and helpless, would we be even Hindus today? Do not forget that it was easy and quick for Muslim invaders to establish rule in India. Many invaders were defeated several times before they gained footing in India. Saui Arabia, Persia, central Asian countries and many others had already fallen to Islam way before that and had turned into fully Islamic countries. They had to struggle for centuries to really rule our country. Even after establishment of Islam in North India, there was bitter opposition from Jats and Sikhs there and towards South west it was the Marathas. Marathas kept the Muslims struggling for a really long time until they were finally defeated in Panipat. By then it was already 17th century. So seeing that the entire period of struggle lasted from late 11th to 17th century, how can we say that we are meek. Meek are the ones who converted fully to Islam like African and other Asian countries. Not us. We are still Hindus. Yes we did lose much in the way of self-confidence, pride and a few other things but we are still Hindus.

Hindus are laid back and going by the past  history if several centuries , we can see that they wake up only after the trouble has brewed and escalated to impossible levels and this is because of lack of any  forethought. This is evident in all our plannings, be it roads, cities or any public work..

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