One country, two PM and two president.

I don't think it is possible at all. All that he is trying to do is to make J&K people who are vulnerable, to support and those people who are rebels kind, they will support him and make him win to make their state independent and subsequently merge in Pakistan.

These are certainly dangerous signs for J&K. Freedom of speech is being used explicitly even at the cost of Nationalism. It is a  very critical situation where the many people of J&K who know that their land belong to India to be vocal and dissuade any such kind of leaders who are trying to seperate the State from it's Nation.

Apparently that's how it was until 1952/53..and I am sure it suited the Abdullahs very well. Now what is required there is presidents rule or better military rule until the valley and it's people learn to tow the line ..

Even if separate president and prime minister existed in Kashmir earlier, the fact is they are now a part of India. They can't expect to go back in time. I agree with Usha that military rule should be imposed if they continue to talk of changes that would disintgrate India.

The Abdullahs are a stain not just on the country but also for J&K, they have only been selfish all of these years and now such a ridiculous statement. Times change, people move forward, not backwards! When will they ever learn?

epraneeth77 wrote:

I don't think it is possible at all. All that he is trying to do is to make J&K people who are vulnerable, to support and those people who are rebels kind, they will support him and make him win to make their state independent and subsequently merge in Pakistan.

These are certainly dangerous signs for J&K. Freedom of speech is being used explicitly even at the cost of Nationalism. It is a  very critical situation where the many people of J&K who know that their land belong to India to be vocal and dissuade any such kind of leaders who are trying to seperate the State from it's Nation.

Both Abdullah and Mehbooba are threatening India. Abdullas is saying for separate President and Prime Minister and Mehboo said that if section 370 remove Kashmir separate from India. She is saying only for Kashmir not for Jammu and Ladakh. Intention of Kashmir's leader never been in favor of India. 

Kalyani Nandurkar wrote:

The Abdullahs are a stain not just on the country but also for J&K, they have only been selfish all of these years and now such a ridiculous statement. Times change, people move forward, not backwards! When will they ever learn?

He added more in his previous statement. Separate PM, President and now separate flag and constitution of Kashmir. In coming year he also claim for separate army of Kashmir.  Worse thing is that congress is silent.

The First Abdullah spent 11+ years in jail (1953-1965). It's right time these two Abdulahs along with other separatists like Mehbooba and rest of the gang spend their time in their rightful place, the jail. I don't want them to go to Pakistan because they belong to Indian jails and nowhere else. I wish we had a stricter law against traitors.

usha manohar wrote:

Apparently that's how it was until 1952/53..and I am sure it suited the Abdullahs very well. Now what is required there is presidents rule or better military rule until the valley and it's people learn to tow the line ..

Kashmir's leader threatening, that it section 35A and section 370 remove Kashmir will separate from India. Earlier Pakistan was also threatening that if India enter in Pakistan for surgical strike, they will use nuclear bomb. They threat if at time of kargil and on 26/11. What happen after two surgical strike. Now India have not any fear of Pakistan's Islamic bombs. Like if India government must be remove 35A and 370. Country is able to handle situation after it. It is my believe nothing will happen if these section will removed.

suni51 wrote:

The First Abdullah spent 11+ years in jail (1953-1965). It's right time these two Abdulahs along with other separatists like Mehbooba and rest of the gang spend their time in their rightful place, the jail. I don't want them to go to Pakistan because they belong to Indian jails and nowhere else. I wish we had a stricter law against traitors.

India must be remove section 370 and 35 A. and watch what Mehbooba will do. I am agree with you Jail is right place of these traitor. These are eating of India and also crushing and abusing  India.

anil wrote:

Kalyani Nandurkar wrote:

The Abdullahs are a stain not just on the country but also for J&K, they have only been selfish all of these years and now such a ridiculous statement. Times change, people move forward, not backwards! When will they ever learn?

He added more in his previous statement. Separate PM, President and now separate flag and constitution of Kashmir. In coming year he also claim for separate army of Kashmir.  Worse thing is that congress is silent.

Kashmir already have a separate flag which are hoisted along with the national flag. So I don't think anyone is demanding another separate flag. And they are not the only state to use separate regional flag along with national flag. If I am not mistaken last year or so, there was an issue about demand to recognise separate flag for Karnataka state.

I agree with Usha. Military law is the best till the issue really gets resolved. These people are just foul mouthing to come back to power. They have no intention of serving people of Kashmir or helping Kashmir. They just can not stay out of power for long and are itching to be back. 

Article 370 and 35 needs to be scrapped. Kashmir has to be integral part of India like other states. They can not enjoy being an Indian and all privileges of an Indian passport and also have a special status. 

I also agree with Usha. I have spent a long time in during my posting in Kahhmir especially in Jammu, Srinagar and Rajuori. Rajouri  was most dangerous in those areas as I was posted right near the Indo-Pakistan borders (looking after the bridge building projects). I used to live in officers' mess in army area which was far safer than city areas or while working in the field. I was impressed the way army handled the situation and I am fully confident if given a free hand or the martial law imposed, the situation will immediately come back under control.   

jabeen wrote:

anil wrote:

Kalyani Nandurkar wrote:

The Abdullahs are a stain not just on the country but also for J&K, they have only been selfish all of these years and now such a ridiculous statement. Times change, people move forward, not backwards! When will they ever learn?

He added more in his previous statement. Separate PM, President and now separate flag and constitution of Kashmir. In coming year he also claim for separate army of Kashmir.  Worse thing is that congress is silent.

Kashmir already have a separate flag which are hoisted along with the national flag. So I don't think anyone is demanding another separate flag. And they are not the only state to use separate regional flag along with national flag. If I am not mistaken last year or so, there was an issue about demand to recognise separate flag for Karnataka state.

Yes karnataka also wants separate flag. Most of old state of Rajasthan have separate flag and they also use them on some special occasions. Earlier Kashmir had PM. Shekh Abdullah was first PM of Kashmir. But it is not possible that I country have to PM and President.

anil wrote:

jabeen wrote:

anil wrote:

Kalyani Nandurkar wrote:

The Abdullahs are a stain not just on the country but also for J&K, they have only been selfish all of these years and now such a ridiculous statement. Times change, people move forward, not backwards! When will they ever learn?

He added more in his previous statement. Separate PM, President and now separate flag and constitution of Kashmir. In coming year he also claim for separate army of Kashmir.  Worse thing is that congress is silent.

Kashmir already have a separate flag which are hoisted along with the national flag. So I don't think anyone is demanding another separate flag. And they are not the only state to use separate regional flag along with national flag. If I am not mistaken last year or so, there was an issue about demand to recognise separate flag for Karnataka state.

Yes karnataka also wants separate flag. Most of old state of Rajasthan have separate flag and they also use them on some special occasions. Earlier Kashmir had PM. Shekh Abdullah was first PM of Kashmir. But it is not possible that I country have to PM and President.

A seperate flag for a State! Sounds very strange, but it may be possible. However it should not be encouraged, particulary in case of J&K as it will lead to a whole lot of negative repurcussions. Hope the idea is subdued and National interests are put forward by J&K people.

epraneeth77 wrote:

anil wrote:

jabeen wrote:

anil wrote:

Kalyani Nandurkar wrote:

The Abdullahs are a stain not just on the country but also for J&K, they have only been selfish all of these years and now such a ridiculous statement. Times change, people move forward, not backwards! When will they ever learn?

He added more in his previous statement. Separate PM, President and now separate flag and constitution of Kashmir. In coming year he also claim for separate army of Kashmir.  Worse thing is that congress is silent.

Kashmir already have a separate flag which are hoisted along with the national flag. So I don't think anyone is demanding another separate flag. And they are not the only state to use separate regional flag along with national flag. If I am not mistaken last year or so, there was an issue about demand to recognise separate flag for Karnataka state.

Yes karnataka also wants separate flag. Most of old state of Rajasthan have separate flag and they also use them on some special occasions. Earlier Kashmir had PM. Shekh Abdullah was first PM of Kashmir. But it is not possible that I country have to PM and President.

A seperate flag for a State! Sounds very strange, but it may be possible. However it should not be encouraged, particulary in case of J&K as it will lead to a whole lot of negative repurcussions. Hope the idea is subdued and National interests are put forward by J&K people.

States are not using their flags although they are using their state symbols. Peoples of Jammu is with nation but peoples of Kashmir is not in favor of India.

Karnataka has a flag and they hoist it on Karnataka Day.  But I have not seen them hoisting it with National flag on independence day and Republic Day. 

Arunima Singh wrote:

Karnataka has a flag and they hoist it on Karnataka Day.  But I have not seen them hoisting it with National flag on independence day and Republic Day. 

Before independence India had many principality and they have their own flag. Rajasthan have not any flag. It is not fair to hosting state flag on independence and republic day because old states are not in existence. 

Arunima Singh wrote:

Karnataka has a flag and they hoist it on Karnataka Day.  But I have not seen them hoisting it with National flag on independence day and Republic Day. 

If I am not mistaken, even Nagaland has a separate flag which they hoist on important occasions such as festivals, receiving dignitaries etc. But I have not heard it being hoisted on Independence Day or Republic Day.

To me the very idea of having a seperate state flag seems unnecessary. Why not have one National flag to be used by all ? Some politicians in Karnataka want a separate flag and this demand becomes vocal when there is different govt at the center . It is more political rather than any love for the region or separate identity. 

usha manohar wrote:

To me the very idea of having a seperate state flag seems unnecessary. Why not have one National flag to be used by all ? Some politicians in Karnataka want a separate flag and this demand becomes vocal when there is different govt at the center . It is more political rather than any love for the region or separate identity. 

It is right, demanding separate flag is a way to oppose center government. Nothing more than it. At present attitude of opposition for center government as center BJP government is not elected by voters.