A wake up call.

Mahesh wrote:

I have heard of Yuri Alexandrovich Bezmenov for the first time. I was not aware of his involvement in India on spying and spreading a lot of problems. I guess I have to read up on that. I got most of my knowledge about what is being attempted based on the stockholm theory book that was written in past. The book explain the possible rise of communism, feminism, transhumanism that may happen at the end of 90s. I think internet helped spread the possible stockholm theory to be real. 

Do read about him. It was by his own confession that the story of conspiracy about India came out first. Otherwise, once upon a time, intellect and education meant someone who was well versed in all scriptures, subjects and stuff but now intellect means someone who is supposedly secular and vehemently anti-Hindu. How did this transition happen?

Arunima Singh wrote:

suni51 wrote:

I said terrorism is bad and that includes everyone involved. Who said if the terrorists were Muslims they were bad but good if they were Christians, Jews or followers of any other religion? I feel bad when even a single person gets killed in such incidents and here it was a whole lot of devotees. I condemn all terrorism coming from anyone.

I totally agree with you. Terrorism of any sort id condemnable and no religion justifies terrorism. It is actually the extremists and fanatics of religion who misguide the gullible minds and no such outrage should be tolerated. And in name of no religion such extremist thoughts should get fodder. Terrorism spares no religion. We have seen it across the world. Though most of terrorists belong to Islam, they have not spared Muslims. Pakistan has been a victim of its own home grown terrorism.

Followers of Islam is more fanatic that followers of other religion. Islam is not much old religion. It is history of Islam to force people to change their religion on the basis of threat. What is happening in Pakistan, they deserve it.

Yes but the thing is that media is brainwashing the kids of other religions to such an extent. We can't even teach our kids about the reality of that religion. It's all fake politically correct tone we are forced to hold while our kids are being brainwashed. Plus in order to be liberal even our kids are brainwashed about intercaste marriages and we see everyday how Hindu girls are being killed in love jihad. It's going very downhill these days. But people in our religion don't seem to wake up about it. We lack unity and we lack the voice to reach the masses. And so left wing is creating the fake utopia of society without nation, religion and caste. In reality they want to use people for money and manipulate the conservatives while doing that. It's high time our religion has to unite or we will face fall out in near future. 

anil wrote:

Arunima Singh wrote:

suni51 wrote:

I said terrorism is bad and that includes everyone involved. Who said if the terrorists were Muslims they were bad but good if they were Christians, Jews or followers of any other religion? I feel bad when even a single person gets killed in such incidents and here it was a whole lot of devotees. I condemn all terrorism coming from anyone.

I totally agree with you. Terrorism of any sort id condemnable and no religion justifies terrorism. It is actually the extremists and fanatics of religion who misguide the gullible minds and no such outrage should be tolerated. And in name of no religion such extremist thoughts should get fodder. Terrorism spares no religion. We have seen it across the world. Though most of terrorists belong to Islam, they have not spared Muslims. Pakistan has been a victim of its own home grown terrorism.

Followers of Islam is more fanatic that followers of other religion. Islam is not much old religion. It is history of Islam to force people to change their religion on the basis of threat. What is happening in Pakistan, they deserve it.

Islam calls itself a peaceful religion and Qurans teachings have been debatable but it is ike all other religious teachings is about peace and justice ,.. I am quoting below some opinion about quran's teachings and how easy it is to misinterpret it by terrorists and those who have devious motive 

Numerous scholars and authors, both Muslim and non-Muslim have testified to the underlying rejection of violence, cruelty, coercion, and intolerance of the Quran and its embrace of justice and self-defence. According to Fawzy Abdelmalek, "many Muslim scholars speak of Islam as a religion of peace and not of violence. They say that the non-Muslims misunderstand the Quran verses about Jihad and the conduct of war in Islam."^[16]

Nissim Rejwan asserts that "violence and cruelty are not in the spirit of the Quran, nor are they found in the life of the Prophet, nor in the lives of saintly Muslims."^[17]

According to Feisal Abdul Rauf, "the Quran expressly and unambiguously prohibits the use of coercion in faith because coercion would violate a fundamental human right— the right to a free conscience. A different belief system is not deemed a legitimate cause for violence or war under Islamic law. The Quran is categorical on this: "There shall be no compulsion in religion" (2:256); "Say to the disbelievers [that is, atheists, or polytheists, namely those who reject God] "To you, your beliefs, to me, mine" (109:1–6)"^[18]

I must agree that there is a lot of difference in what they say or what they do but killing of innocent is not acceptable from any side. I don't mind if you kill the culprits but killing of innocents like one Muslim child killed by Muslim terrorists in a house in Srinagar yesterday. No one will accept that and that is nothing but pure terrorism for the sake of spreading the terror. 

Killing any innocent person especially a child shows the total disregard these people have orhers and I feel that they do it under the guise of Islam thereby bringing bad name to the religion. 

And the major problem with the Muslim population is their silence or many a times acceptance when such terror attacks take place. I wish they were more vocal about it and condemned each time it happened. People would then automatically trust them..

suni51 wrote:

I must agree that there is a lot of difference in what they say or what they do but killing of innocent is not acceptable from any side. I don't mind if you kill the culprits but killing of innocents like one Muslim child killed by Muslim terrorists in a house in Srinagar yesterday. No one will accept that and that is nothing but pure terrorism for the sake of spreading the terror. 

I too read about it and felt really bad about that child. Just dread to think what he must have felt being kept a hostage for many hours before finally killed. 

But I hope that it will serve as a lesson to all those who are supporting  terrorists by giving them shelters and food, that terrorism knows no loyalty. If needed, they will not hesitate to take those who served them as hostages.

usha manohar wrote:

anil wrote:

Arunima Singh wrote:

suni51 wrote:

I said terrorism is bad and that includes everyone involved. Who said if the terrorists were Muslims they were bad but good if they were Christians, Jews or followers of any other religion? I feel bad when even a single person gets killed in such incidents and here it was a whole lot of devotees. I condemn all terrorism coming from anyone.

I totally agree with you. Terrorism of any sort id condemnable and no religion justifies terrorism. It is actually the extremists and fanatics of religion who misguide the gullible minds and no such outrage should be tolerated. And in name of no religion such extremist thoughts should get fodder. Terrorism spares no religion. We have seen it across the world. Though most of terrorists belong to Islam, they have not spared Muslims. Pakistan has been a victim of its own home grown terrorism.

Followers of Islam is more fanatic that followers of other religion. Islam is not much old religion. It is history of Islam to force people to change their religion on the basis of threat. What is happening in Pakistan, they deserve it.

Islam calls itself a peaceful religion and Qurans teachings have been debatable but it is ike all other religious teachings is about peace and justice ,.. I am quoting below some opinion about quran's teachings and how easy it is to misinterpret it by terrorists and those who have devious motive 

Numerous scholars and authors, both Muslim and non-Muslim have testified to the underlying rejection of violence, cruelty, coercion, and intolerance of the Quran and its embrace of justice and self-defence. According to Fawzy Abdelmalek, "many Muslim scholars speak of Islam as a religion of peace and not of violence. They say that the non-Muslims misunderstand the Quran verses about Jihad and the conduct of war in Islam."^[16]

Nissim Rejwan asserts that "violence and cruelty are not in the spirit of the Quran, nor are they found in the life of the Prophet, nor in the lives of saintly Muslims."^[17]

According to Feisal Abdul Rauf, "the Quran expressly and unambiguously prohibits the use of coercion in faith because coercion would violate a fundamental human right— the right to a free conscience. A different belief system is not deemed a legitimate cause for violence or war under Islamic law. The Quran is categorical on this: "There shall be no compulsion in religion" (2:256); "Say to the disbelievers [that is, atheists, or polytheists, namely those who reject God] "To you, your beliefs, to me, mine" (109:1–6)"^[18]

No one religion favor violence, but we read in history that Muslim used coercion to get change religion of followers of other religions.

The thing is killing from muslims will always be ignored. And considering there is a lot of propaganda on socialism being done. New zealand woman wearing hijab goes to show you how much brain washing is being done. Now the pulwama attacks are praised because india is painted as evil and muslims are painted as some saints. Nobody pays attention when hindu girls are being converted with love jihad. Nobody pays attention when hindu boys are denied of jobs. At the end of the day every man for himself mentality in india stops us from uniting even in our own religion. That part will always remain true.