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209 is the election year and a very crucial one at that ..however, what we see now is the kind  of frenzy never seen before I am presuming. I doubt if any other Prime Minister has been abused and maligned day in and day out by the opposition as Mr Modi has been. This also goes to show that the opposition is vary of him and are ready to do anything to topple him from power by hook or crook.

Rahul Gandhi, Mayawati, Mamata,Chandra Babu Naidu , Shivsena which is supposed to be an ally , Kejriwal are all after him and it is a very unhealthy political atmosphere in the country. Are they justified in abusing the Prime Minister of the country , making personal attacks of every kind ? what are your views friends ?

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Assassinating Gandhi is an act which is to condemned, but he was no saint himself. Furthermore, Nathuram Godse killed Gandhi NOT JUST for the partition but for every act of his appeasement and love towards the Muslims while at the same time his condescending attitude towards Hindus when they tried to retaliate for atrocities by Muslims. History books never taught us about Moplah riots in Kerala, 1921, I read about it and learned form other sources. It started as a revolt against the British but later escalated into a communal riot as the Moplah Muslims began large scale massacre of Hindus, especially Nairs, raped and killed women, reached new heights of cruelty by splashing open stomachs of pregnant Hindu women and left them to bleed to excruciating deaths, and all of these massacre and killings were instigated by the fact that these Hindus had been refusing to convert to Islam for a long time! So it definitely and without doubt was an act of ethnic cleansing! While Gandhiji who was often quite vocal in terms of nonviolence, love, forgiveness etc. towards Muslims chose to not speak much about this particular event,. Instead he rubbed salt and chillies on the wounds of the Hindus when he addressed Hindu women, telling them to commit suicide or bite off their tongues to avoid rapes, but keep on practicisng non-violence no matter what and told Hindu women to follow ahimsa and die in protest but not lift even a finger against our "Muslim brothers". because atma of Hindus is immortal! That was your Father of the Nation! Lick and bow to Muslims and kick Hindus in their backside and still be happy and grateful for it! Godse and numerous other Hindus had been seething with rage for decades and his assassination was a culmination of his own attitude and disregard towards Hindus. One person cannot be blamed for it, he just pulled the trigger. If not him, someone else would have done it!

Here is an excerpt from History of the Freedom Movement in India, about the Moplah which details a resolution passed in a conference presided over by the local ruler of Calicut:

That the conference views with indignation and sorrow the attempts made at various quarters by interested parties to ignore or minimise the crimes committed by the rebels such as: brutally dishonouring women, flaying people alive, wholesale slaughter of men, women and children, burning alive entire families, forcibly converting people in thousands and slaying those who refused to get converted, throwing half dead people into wells and leaving the victims to struggle for escape till finally released from their suffering by death, burning a great many and looting practically all Hindu and Christian houses in the disturbed areas in which even Moplah women and children took part and robbed women of even the garments on their bodies, in short reducing the whole non-Muslim population to abject destitution, cruelly insulting the religious sentiments of the Hindus by desecrating and destroying numerous temples in the disturbed areas, killing cows within the temple precincts putting their entrails on the holy image and hanging skulls on the walls and the roofs.

After that, during partition, when hundreds of Hindus who lost homes took refuge in Masjids, Gandhiji threatened them with fast and force so that they vacate the premises in cold cold because Muslims did not like it. Little children, babies, old people etc. all had to spend harsh cold nights on the streets because he wanted to keep Muslims happy. Not even once once during his career as the saint of the nation, did he do a single thing that would grant justice and fairness to Hindus.

Do face the truth people. Gandhiji had become very obstinate, almost child like in nature and refused to listen to reason or logic and often resorted to the weapon of fasting to have his own way. Even Nehru and congress had become tired of him and his obstinate policies. The very next day, he was again supposed to begin fasting in order to resolve the issue of Hyderabad state which the Nizam refused to secede to India. If he had been allowed to do so, there is not a single doubt that he would have forced the government to give in to please Nizam. If that had happened, imagine how India today would have been, a small part of Pakistan right within India! Just try imagining that!

suni51 wrote:

I don't think division of India was justified. It was only over ambitions of Nehru and Jinnah to become Prime Minister of India. The only way they both could become Prime Minister of a country was to divide India. Gandhi didn't want to divide the country but gave up under the pressure. Gandhi paid the price for ambitions of Nehru and Jinnah. Nehru and his family took all the advantage but the citizens of this country were real losers. 

It is proved that division was not justified. To nation theory on the basis of religion failed completely. Today more than Pakistan Muslim are living in India.

Kalyani Nandurkar wrote:

Assassinating Gandhi is an act which is to condemned, but he was no saint himself. Furthermore, Nathuram Godse killed Gandhi NOT JUST for the partition but for every act of his appeasement and love towards the Muslims while at the same time his condescending attitude towards Hindus when they tried to retaliate for atrocities by Muslims. History books never taught us about Moplah riots in Kerala, 1921, I read about it and learned form other sources. It started as a revolt against the British but later escalated into a communal riot as the Moplah Muslims began large scale massacre of Hindus, especially Nairs, raped and killed women, reached new heights of cruelty by splashing open stomachs of pregnant Hindu women and left them to bleed to excruciating deaths, and all of these massacre and killings were instigated by the fact that these Hindus had been refusing to convert to Islam for a long time! So it definitely and without doubt was an act of ethnic cleansing! While Gandhiji who was often quite vocal in terms of nonviolence, love, forgiveness etc. towards Muslims chose to not speak much about this particular event,. Instead he rubbed salt and chillies on the wounds of the Hindus when he addressed Hindu women, telling them to commit suicide or bite off their tongues to avoid rapes, but keep on practicisng non-violence no matter what and told Hindu women to follow ahimsa and die in protest but not lift even a finger against our "Muslim brothers". because atma of Hindus is immortal! That was your Father of the Nation! Lick and bow to Muslims and kick Hindus in their backside and still be happy and grateful for it! Godse and numerous other Hindus had been seething with rage for decades and his assassination was a culmination of his own attitude and disregard towards Hindus. One person cannot be blamed for it, he just pulled the trigger. If not him, someone else would have done it!

Here is an excerpt from History of the Freedom Movement in India, about the Moplah which details a resolution passed in a conference presided over by the local ruler of Calicut:

That the conference views with indignation and sorrow the attempts made at various quarters by interested parties to ignore or minimise the crimes committed by the rebels such as: brutally dishonouring women, flaying people alive, wholesale slaughter of men, women and children, burning alive entire families, forcibly converting people in thousands and slaying those who refused to get converted, throwing half dead people into wells and leaving the victims to struggle for escape till finally released from their suffering by death, burning a great many and looting practically all Hindu and Christian houses in the disturbed areas in which even Moplah women and children took part and robbed women of even the garments on their bodies, in short reducing the whole non-Muslim population to abject destitution, cruelly insulting the religious sentiments of the Hindus by desecrating and destroying numerous temples in the disturbed areas, killing cows within the temple precincts putting their entrails on the holy image and hanging skulls on the walls and the roofs.

After that, during partition, when hundreds of Hindus who lost homes took refuge in Masjids, Gandhiji threatened them with fast and force so that they vacate the premises in cold cold because Muslims did not like it. Little children, babies, old people etc. all had to spend harsh cold nights on the streets because he wanted to keep Muslims happy. Not even once once during his career as the saint of the nation, did he do a single thing that would grant justice and fairness to Hindus.

Do face the truth people. Gandhiji had become very obstinate, almost child like in nature and refused to listen to reason or logic and often resorted to the weapon of fasting to have his own way. Even Nehru and congress had become tired of him and his obstinate policies. The very next day, he was again supposed to begin fasting in order to resolve the issue of Hyderabad state which the Nizam refused to secede to India. If he had been allowed to do so, there is not a single doubt that he would have forced the government to give in to please Nizam. If that had happened, imagine how India today would have been, a small part of Pakistan right within India! Just try imagining that!

What you wrote above are right one. You don't read about what happen with Hindus of Punjab and Sindh are. My city have many family who come here empty hand. Gandhi ji never appeal to Muslim not to kill Hindus.

Hopefully Mr Modi will seriously look into abolishing article 370 in Kashmir and let it become a normal state like the others and bring in Uniform civil code ..these two measures could help our nation immensely. Most developed nations have a state religion and I dont see why India with a population of 80% Hindus cannot have a state religion. It solves several problems related to religion..  

I think abolishing 370 is the only solution of Kashmir issue. true, it will trigger a great debate, violent movements in the valley but once settled everything will be fine. If they do not abolish 370 then the chances are the state will be out of control totally.

anil wrote:

What you wrote above are right one. You don't read about what happen with Hindus of Punjab and Sindh are. My city have many family who come here empty hand. Gandhi ji never appeal to Muslim not to kill Hindus.

I did read about it and I also wrote about partition in my post. Nathuram Godse belonged to a Maharashtrian Brahmin family from Pune. Maharashtra and Maharashtrians were never directly affected by the partition like Punjabis, Sindhis and other Hindus from those states. But he was so moved by the plight of the Hindus returning to India from Pakistan both dead alive that he was very much enraged by it all, he was further enraged by Gandhi's continued policy of forgiving Muslims, keeping them happy. etc. He did fall out with RSS because he believed in direct and extreme action by force which RSS did not permit. Savarkar believed in Gandhiji only until Moplah happened, after that he realized that secular nation was not completely possible because you can never keep the Muslims happy, all they wanted was their own philosophy and for EVERY ONE to believe in Islam. India being majority Hindu, it was not possible and so he supported two nation theory BUT he also advocated that India be declared a HINDU nation at the time of partition. But your dear Gandhi and Nehru rejected that and threw Savarkar aside. Congress followed G and N and therefore the policy of Muslim appeasement begin at the cost of Hindu peace. Let me make it clear here that Hindutva does not mean hating Muslims but recognising that Hindutva is the first and foremost religion of India which in any case is true, Muslims should be able to recognise and respect that fact, many of them living in India do that any way. But given the rise of Wahabism as dictated by fanatical Mullahs, especially by the Deobandis who run Aligarh Muslim University, it is uncertain whether they will ever respect other religions.

 

suni51 wrote:

I think abolishing 370 is the only solution of Kashmir issue. true, it will trigger a great debate, violent movements in the valley but once settled everything will be fine. If they do not abolish 370 then the chances are the state will be out of control totally.

That as well as article 35 A regarding Permanent Residents rights of the people from the state!

Very recently Mr. Narendra Modi was awarded Peace prize for 2018 year for reasons I am not aware, but Mr Narendra Modi has decided to use the entire Prize money of $200000 for Namami Gange. Very nice gesture. Nobody would have done it and in the first place nobody would have got it from our current Politicians.

It must have been for the Yoga day proposal, International Solar Alliance, Paris Climate agreement and propelling Electric vehicles proposals under FAME Scheme. He has done many programmes to bring back the balance of our planet in a big way by including many Countries in his vision

It has been a very interesting discussion so far and I read each and every response. Now if we go as a nation we have already paid a huge price by idolizing leaders like Gandhi and Nehru. They were human and have done their share of mistakes to leave this country in mess that we are in. I appreciate leaders like Ambedkar who was against such idol worship culture and never addressed Gandhi as Mahatma or Bapu. In fact he even criticized Congress. But such leaders never got their due and are still used for political gains by politicians especially the backwards. That is actually a slap pn Mabedkar's real ideology. Not only Ambedkar but many more did not get their rigthful recognition in the blind idol worship of Gandhi and Nehru. Till now, questioning them is not seen healthy in this democracy and criticizing them brings you names like Hindu terrorists and bhakts.

Now coming to the present scenario country, all parties who are basically enemies are compromising on their ethics and ideologies to topple Modi. I feel that this too much of negative propaganda might work in favor of Modi. I hope and wish that Indians today are wiser and more aware and can sense the hypocrisy in the Gathbandhan. 

Kalyani Nandurkar wrote:

anil wrote:

What you wrote above are right one. You don't read about what happen with Hindus of Punjab and Sindh are. My city have many family who come here empty hand. Gandhi ji never appeal to Muslim not to kill Hindus.

I did read about it and I also wrote about partition in my post. Nathuram Godse belonged to a Maharashtrian Brahmin family from Pune. Maharashtra and Maharashtrians were never directly affected by the partition like Punjabis, Sindhis and other Hindus from those states. But he was so moved by the plight of the Hindus returning to India from Pakistan both dead alive that he was very much enraged by it all, he was further enraged by Gandhi's continued policy of forgiving Muslims, keeping them happy. etc. He did fall out with RSS because he believed in direct and extreme action by force which RSS did not permit. Savarkar believed in Gandhiji only until Moplah happened, after that he realized that secular nation was not completely possible because you can never keep the Muslims happy, all they wanted was their own philosophy and for EVERY ONE to believe in Islam. India being majority Hindu, it was not possible and so he supported two nation theory BUT he also advocated that India be declared a HINDU nation at the time of partition. But your dear Gandhi and Nehru rejected that and threw Savarkar aside. Congress followed G and N and therefore the policy of Muslim appeasement begin at the cost of Hindu peace. Let me make it clear here that Hindutva does not mean hating Muslims but recognising that Hindutva is the first and foremost religion of India which in any case is true, Muslims should be able to recognise and respect that fact, many of them living in India do that any way. But given the rise of Wahabism as dictated by fanatical Mullahs, especially by the Deobandis who run Aligarh Muslim University, it is uncertain whether they will ever respect other religions.

What you wrote I also read some what, but I think it was not possible at that time to declare India as Hindu nation. Sikh community is one of largest community of North India. Sikhs are also not accepting that they are Hindu. At the of Partition Sikhs also demands for separate nation for them. But it also right that when Muslim get nation for them than they have not right to stay here.

anil wrote:
Kalyani Nandurkar wrote:

anil wrote:

What you wrote above are right one. You don't read about what happen with Hindus of Punjab and Sindh are. My city have many family who come here empty hand. Gandhi ji never appeal to Muslim not to kill Hindus.

I did read about it and I also wrote about partition in my post. Nathuram Godse belonged to a Maharashtrian Brahmin family from Pune. Maharashtra and Maharashtrians were never directly affected by the partition like Punjabis, Sindhis and other Hindus from those states. But he was so moved by the plight of the Hindus returning to India from Pakistan both dead alive that he was very much enraged by it all, he was further enraged by Gandhi's continued policy of forgiving Muslims, keeping them happy. etc. He did fall out with RSS because he believed in direct and extreme action by force which RSS did not permit. Savarkar believed in Gandhiji only until Moplah happened, after that he realized that secular nation was not completely possible because you can never keep the Muslims happy, all they wanted was their own philosophy and for EVERY ONE to believe in Islam. India being majority Hindu, it was not possible and so he supported two nation theory BUT he also advocated that India be declared a HINDU nation at the time of partition. But your dear Gandhi and Nehru rejected that and threw Savarkar aside. Congress followed G and N and therefore the policy of Muslim appeasement begin at the cost of Hindu peace. Let me make it clear here that Hindutva does not mean hating Muslims but recognising that Hindutva is the first and foremost religion of India which in any case is true, Muslims should be able to recognise and respect that fact, many of them living in India do that any way. But given the rise of Wahabism as dictated by fanatical Mullahs, especially by the Deobandis who run Aligarh Muslim University, it is uncertain whether they will ever respect other religions.

What you wrote I also read some what, but I think it was not possible at that time to declare India as Hindu nation. Sikh community is one of largest community of North India. Sikhs are also not accepting that they are Hindu. At the of Partition Sikhs also demands for separate nation for them. But it also right that when Muslim get nation for them than they have not right to stay here.

Who said it was not possible to declare India a Hindu nation???  It was very much possible! Gandhiji insisted, in fact he was very obstinate about it to let Muslims stay in India if they wished to while Hindus were run out of Pakistan brutally while snatching away little and young girls and forcing them into becoming slaves to Pakis. But Gandhi and Nehru both didn't want to declare Hindu status because of their secularism which has so damaged our country. As far as Sikhs are concerned, they always had full respect towards Hindu as a religion since they understand that they themselves were Hindus at one point of time and there was no question of offending them as Hindus and Sikhs have always and even now lived and worked in total harmony! So that point is not valid. The question was only of having the will do do and that too with only a few people!

usha manohar wrote:

Hopefully Mr Modi will seriously look into abolishing article 370 in Kashmir and let it become a normal state like the others and bring in Uniform civil code ..these two measures could help our nation immensely. Most developed nations have a state religion and I dont see why India with a population of 80% Hindus cannot have a state religion. It solves several problems related to religion..  

That will be like a historical decision and a tough one going against populism. I think only BJP government with a majority mark can do that. They did not do it in last 5 years playing safe for next term. But if they come next term with clean mandate they should do it in favour of nation. There is a big demand of this from Modi on various social media platform especially after Phulwama incident. There is also speculation in media that this government is considering to abolish Article 35 A though they have not verified it. Even it came in today's newspaper. 

I just hope that if they come with clean mandate in upcoming election, they should take few of these tough decisions. They will be like last nail in the coffin of all the toruble and terrorism in Kashmir. We will have unrest for short time but things will be resolved in a long run.

Kalyani Nandurkar wrote:
anil wrote:
Kalyani Nandurkar wrote:

anil wrote:

What you wrote above are right one. You don't read about what happen with Hindus of Punjab and Sindh are. My city have many family who come here empty hand. Gandhi ji never appeal to Muslim not to kill Hindus.

I did read about it and I also wrote about partition in my post. Nathuram Godse belonged to a Maharashtrian Brahmin family from Pune. Maharashtra and Maharashtrians were never directly affected by the partition like Punjabis, Sindhis and other Hindus from those states. But he was so moved by the plight of the Hindus returning to India from Pakistan both dead alive that he was very much enraged by it all, he was further enraged by Gandhi's continued policy of forgiving Muslims, keeping them happy. etc. He did fall out with RSS because he believed in direct and extreme action by force which RSS did not permit. Savarkar believed in Gandhiji only until Moplah happened, after that he realized that secular nation was not completely possible because you can never keep the Muslims happy, all they wanted was their own philosophy and for EVERY ONE to believe in Islam. India being majority Hindu, it was not possible and so he supported two nation theory BUT he also advocated that India be declared a HINDU nation at the time of partition. But your dear Gandhi and Nehru rejected that and threw Savarkar aside. Congress followed G and N and therefore the policy of Muslim appeasement begin at the cost of Hindu peace. Let me make it clear here that Hindutva does not mean hating Muslims but recognising that Hindutva is the first and foremost religion of India which in any case is true, Muslims should be able to recognise and respect that fact, many of them living in India do that any way. But given the rise of Wahabism as dictated by fanatical Mullahs, especially by the Deobandis who run Aligarh Muslim University, it is uncertain whether they will ever respect other religions.

What you wrote I also read some what, but I think it was not possible at that time to declare India as Hindu nation. Sikh community is one of largest community of North India. Sikhs are also not accepting that they are Hindu. At the of Partition Sikhs also demands for separate nation for them. But it also right that when Muslim get nation for them than they have not right to stay here.

Who said it was not possible to declare India a Hindu nation???  It was very much possible! Gandhiji insisted, in fact he was very obstinate about it to let Muslims stay in India if they wished to while Hindus were run out of Pakistan brutally while snatching away little and young girls and forcing them into becoming slaves to Pakis. But Gandhi and Nehru both didn't want to declare Hindu status because of their secularism which has so damaged our country. As far as Sikhs are concerned, they always had full respect towards Hindu as a religion since they understand that they themselves were Hindus at one point of time and there was no question of offending them as Hindus and Sikhs have always and even now lived and worked in total harmony! So that point is not valid. The question was only of having the will do do and that too with only a few people!

You may be right one some points, sorry, you don't know about Sikh community. I am living is area where Sikh community is living in large number and my city is also adjoining to Punjab. I know well about Sikh culture and their traditions and culture. Sikh never accepted it that they are Hindu. Master Tara Singh was of Akali leader and at the time of Partition he demands for separate Sikh state. Here in my are Sikh are minor community, if they are Hindu why they are minor here. Their rituals of marriage is differ from Hindus.

Arunima Singh wrote:
usha manohar wrote:

Hopefully Mr Modi will seriously look into abolishing article 370 in Kashmir and let it become a normal state like the others and bring in Uniform civil code ..these two measures could help our nation immensely. Most developed nations have a state religion and I dont see why India with a population of 80% Hindus cannot have a state religion. It solves several problems related to religion..  

That will be like a historical decision and a tough one going against populism. I think only BJP government with a majority mark can do that. They did not do it in last 5 years playing safe for next term. But if they come next term with clean mandate they should do it in favour of nation. There is a big demand of this from Modi on various social media platform especially after Phulwama incident. There is also speculation in media that this government is considering to abolish Article 35 A though they have not verified it. Even it came in today's newspaper. 

I just hope that if they come with clean mandate in upcoming election, they should take few of these tough decisions. They will be like last nail in the coffin of all the toruble and terrorism in Kashmir. We will have unrest for short time but things will be resolved in a long run.

Flexible law is best one and rigid law is worst one. So section 370 was demand of that time. Time is enough changed. With this nation and Kashmir never get any benefit , one thing with this law and it is that Kashmir is till most backward state of India. This law is barrier in way of progress of Kashmir. It must be removed. Some political parties like National conferance and SP are always threating country and government that if this section is removed their may be big riots in Kashmir and it went to Pakistan. It is noting more than fictional fear which is created by some selfish politicians. It is question, that Kashmir have peace and calm with this section. Kashmir is burning, what will new happen if this section will remove?

anil wrote:
Kalyani Nandurkar wrote:
anil wrote:
Kalyani Nandurkar wrote:

anil wrote:

What you wrote above are right one. You don't read about what happen with Hindus of Punjab and Sindh are. My city have many family who come here empty hand. Gandhi ji never appeal to Muslim not to kill Hindus.

I did read about it and I also wrote about partition in my post. Nathuram Godse belonged to a Maharashtrian Brahmin family from Pune. Maharashtra and Maharashtrians were never directly affected by the partition like Punjabis, Sindhis and other Hindus from those states. But he was so moved by the plight of the Hindus returning to India from Pakistan both dead alive that he was very much enraged by it all, he was further enraged by Gandhi's continued policy of forgiving Muslims, keeping them happy. etc. He did fall out with RSS because he believed in direct and extreme action by force which RSS did not permit. Savarkar believed in Gandhiji only until Moplah happened, after that he realized that secular nation was not completely possible because you can never keep the Muslims happy, all they wanted was their own philosophy and for EVERY ONE to believe in Islam. India being majority Hindu, it was not possible and so he supported two nation theory BUT he also advocated that India be declared a HINDU nation at the time of partition. But your dear Gandhi and Nehru rejected that and threw Savarkar aside. Congress followed G and N and therefore the policy of Muslim appeasement begin at the cost of Hindu peace. Let me make it clear here that Hindutva does not mean hating Muslims but recognising that Hindutva is the first and foremost religion of India which in any case is true, Muslims should be able to recognise and respect that fact, many of them living in India do that any way. But given the rise of Wahabism as dictated by fanatical Mullahs, especially by the Deobandis who run Aligarh Muslim University, it is uncertain whether they will ever respect other religions.

What you wrote I also read some what, but I think it was not possible at that time to declare India as Hindu nation. Sikh community is one of largest community of North India. Sikhs are also not accepting that they are Hindu. At the of Partition Sikhs also demands for separate nation for them. But it also right that when Muslim get nation for them than they have not right to stay here.

Who said it was not possible to declare India a Hindu nation???  It was very much possible! Gandhiji insisted, in fact he was very obstinate about it to let Muslims stay in India if they wished to while Hindus were run out of Pakistan brutally while snatching away little and young girls and forcing them into becoming slaves to Pakis. But Gandhi and Nehru both didn't want to declare Hindu status because of their secularism which has so damaged our country. As far as Sikhs are concerned, they always had full respect towards Hindu as a religion since they understand that they themselves were Hindus at one point of time and there was no question of offending them as Hindus and Sikhs have always and even now lived and worked in total harmony! So that point is not valid. The question was only of having the will do do and that too with only a few people!

You may be right one some points, sorry, you don't know about Sikh community. I am living is area where Sikh community is living in large number and my city is also adjoining to Punjab. I know well about Sikh culture and their traditions and culture. Sikh never accepted it that they are Hindu. Master Tara Singh was of Akali leader and at the time of Partition he demands for separate Sikh state. Here in my are Sikh are minor community, if they are Hindu why they are minor here. Their rituals of marriage is differ from Hindus.

I know the community extremely well, have lived with Sikhs as neighbours, grown up with Sikh friends, may be there are some who refuse to identify with their original Hindu roots but it still does not mean that they are wary of Hindus or view other religions as a threat like Muslims do!

Narendra Modi is doing his best to help uplift the nation. If there is one lacuna in his working style that is talking too much about opposition parties. He should refrain from doing this which will be more graceful for his post and personality.

suni51 wrote:

Narendra Modi is doing his best to help uplift the nation. If there is one lacuna in his working style that is talking too much about opposition parties. He should refrain from doing this which will be more graceful for his post and personality.

I agree! Until now, he focused on projecting his work and completed projects rather loudly but I think that was necessary also to make people realise that BJP government is indeed doing productive work as compared to earlier and I think that that purpose has been solved. If granted a second term, which I hope and pray will happen, he should talk less and work as usual!

Kalyani Nandurkar wrote:
anil wrote:
Kalyani Nandurkar wrote:
anil wrote:
Kalyani Nandurkar wrote:

anil wrote:

What you wrote above are right one. You don't read about what happen with Hindus of Punjab and Sindh are. My city have many family who come here empty hand. Gandhi ji never appeal to Muslim not to kill Hindus.

I did read about it and I also wrote about partition in my post. Nathuram Godse belonged to a Maharashtrian Brahmin family from Pune. Maharashtra and Maharashtrians were never directly affected by the partition like Punjabis, Sindhis and other Hindus from those states. But he was so moved by the plight of the Hindus returning to India from Pakistan both dead alive that he was very much enraged by it all, he was further enraged by Gandhi's continued policy of forgiving Muslims, keeping them happy. etc. He did fall out with RSS because he believed in direct and extreme action by force which RSS did not permit. Savarkar believed in Gandhiji only until Moplah happened, after that he realized that secular nation was not completely possible because you can never keep the Muslims happy, all they wanted was their own philosophy and for EVERY ONE to believe in Islam. India being majority Hindu, it was not possible and so he supported two nation theory BUT he also advocated that India be declared a HINDU nation at the time of partition. But your dear Gandhi and Nehru rejected that and threw Savarkar aside. Congress followed G and N and therefore the policy of Muslim appeasement begin at the cost of Hindu peace. Let me make it clear here that Hindutva does not mean hating Muslims but recognising that Hindutva is the first and foremost religion of India which in any case is true, Muslims should be able to recognise and respect that fact, many of them living in India do that any way. But given the rise of Wahabism as dictated by fanatical Mullahs, especially by the Deobandis who run Aligarh Muslim University, it is uncertain whether they will ever respect other religions.

What you wrote I also read some what, but I think it was not possible at that time to declare India as Hindu nation. Sikh community is one of largest community of North India. Sikhs are also not accepting that they are Hindu. At the of Partition Sikhs also demands for separate nation for them. But it also right that when Muslim get nation for them than they have not right to stay here.

Who said it was not possible to declare India a Hindu nation???  It was very much possible! Gandhiji insisted, in fact he was very obstinate about it to let Muslims stay in India if they wished to while Hindus were run out of Pakistan brutally while snatching away little and young girls and forcing them into becoming slaves to Pakis. But Gandhi and Nehru both didn't want to declare Hindu status because of their secularism which has so damaged our country. As far as Sikhs are concerned, they always had full respect towards Hindu as a religion since they understand that they themselves were Hindus at one point of time and there was no question of offending them as Hindus and Sikhs have always and even now lived and worked in total harmony! So that point is not valid. The question was only of having the will do do and that too with only a few people!

You may be right one some points, sorry, you don't know about Sikh community. I am living is area where Sikh community is living in large number and my city is also adjoining to Punjab. I know well about Sikh culture and their traditions and culture. Sikh never accepted it that they are Hindu. Master Tara Singh was of Akali leader and at the time of Partition he demands for separate Sikh state. Here in my are Sikh are minor community, if they are Hindu why they are minor here. Their rituals of marriage is differ from Hindus.

I know the community extremely well, have lived with Sikhs as neighbours, grown up with Sikh friends, may be there are some who refuse to identify with their original Hindu roots but it still does not mean that they are wary of Hindus or view other religions as a threat like Muslims do!

It is right that all sikhs are of Hindu origin. You are living in Maharashtra and Skihs which are leaving their are not too much. Some time come to Punjab and ask this question to them that you are Hindu, they will reply you. If Sikhs are Hindu than why they are minor community in my area. Their education institutes are minor community institutes. 

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