epraneeth77 wrote:A few good leaders cannot compensate the many in efficient people under them is the thing I am getting in my mind.
Agreed BJP works better as per statistics shown in Parliament, but all the time blaming the opposition means actually giving importance to opposition and also focusing less on themselves and their development.
Yes it is better to focus on ourself than others. It is image of Modi to do his work and don't care what opposition is saying. But some time in election it necessary to give they reply in way in which, other is speaking.
When you hear different view points what is evident is that it will not be easy for BJP to win easily . The vote counting is on in the 4 states and as if now BJP is not winning a single state .
What is even more worrisome is that it is very likely that Congress may form govt in MP , Rajasthan and Chattisghar
usha manohar wrote:When you hear different view points what is evident is that it will not be easy for BJP to win easily . The vote counting is on in the 4 states and as if now BJP is not winning a single state .
What is even more worrisome is that it is very likely that Congress may form govt in MP , Rajasthan and Chattisghar
Lets hope the results of this elections in 4 states will be an eye opener for the BJP. They need to make a sincere efforts to tie up the loose ends if they want to remain in power.
jabeen wrote:usha manohar wrote:When you hear different view points what is evident is that it will not be easy for BJP to win easily . The vote counting is on in the 4 states and as if now BJP is not winning a single state .
What is even more worrisome is that it is very likely that Congress may form govt in MP , Rajasthan and Chattisghar
Lets hope the results of this elections in 4 states will be an eye opener for the BJP. They need to make a sincere efforts to tie up the loose ends if they want to remain in power.
As we can now see it is more than an eye opener. From what I see both Chattisghar and Rajasthan are worriesom whereas MP is not so because to be fighting neck to neck with Congress after 3 terms shows that they have done well there ..But Rajasthan shows people's discontentment with Vasundara Raje and BJP , so also Chattisghar..
'A bolt out of the blue' for BJP and their supporters including me. Rajasthan and Madhya Pradesh are predominantly farmer oriented and may be Chattisgarh too and not giving loan waiver to the farmers has hit the BJP very hard. Voting is more in rural areas than urban generally.
Modi's mistake cost him 3 states. Even in Mizoram, MNF Party has decided to form its own government as it has majority and does not want to take its ally BJP at all.
Modi is courageous enough to constantly focus on opposition party weakness of progress brought under their rule, but this time it backfired as all the opposition parties are uniting after this shell shock losing for BJP.
Rahul Gandhi has grown into a main opposition leader now and will be the King maker this time around. It is the turn of opposition now to target BJP on Rafale, Demonetization, misuse of institution, etc. Though we know Rafale is a genuine deal, Rahul has been successful in using the ignorance of people.
There have been many agitations by farmers in Delhi and Mumbai as well. But one good thing is the way in which the CM of the states stepped down accepting people's opinion rather than creating any agitation or controversy.
However I did not like Amit Shah speech saying this was the result of state and not of Modi image. It had certainly been Modi image, his campaigning and he is fully responsible for it.
epraneeth77 wrote:'A bolt out of the blue' for BJP and their supporters including me. Rajasthan and Madhya Pradesh are predominantly farmer oriented and may be Chattisgarh too and not giving loan waiver to the farmers has hit the BJP very hard. Voting is more in rural areas than urban generally.
Modi's mistake cost him 3 states. Even in Mizoram, MNF Party has decided to form its own government as it has majority and does not want to take its ally BJP at all.
Modi is courageous enough to constantly focus on opposition party weakness of progress brought under their rule, but this time it backfired as all the opposition parties are uniting after this shell shock losing for BJP.
Rahul Gandhi has grown into a main opposition leader now and will be the King maker this time around. It is the turn of opposition now to target BJP on Rafale, Demonetization, misuse of institution, etc. Though we know Rafale is a genuine deal, Rahul has been successful in using the ignorance of people.
There have been many agitations by farmers in Delhi and Mumbai as well. But one good thing is the way in which the CM of the states stepped down accepting people's opinion rather than creating any agitation or controversy.
However I did not like Amit Shah speech saying this was the result of state and not of Modi image. It had certainly been Modi image, his campaigning and he is fully responsible for it.
Rahul certainly is not the king maker. But definitely the small parties like SP, BSP and rural ones will play an important role and would like to milk the situation to the maximum. No way congress will form a government without coalition and the khichdi government will definitely have a bad effect on this nation. Hopefully. people in Lok Sabha election will vote more judiciously keeping nation in mind and not the local issues. Though the election for central government will have a different agenda, these defeats will again leave BJP with less seats in Rajya Sabha and if Modi comes again BJP will again have fight to pass bills in Rajya Sabha.
Looking at the political scenario around the world and especially in our neighboring countries, India needs a strong leader like Modi. Rahul as PM would be a curse as he has no experience and maturity to lead a country and that too with a coalition government where he will have to please a dozen party. What the future holds for this country is scary at times. Definitely we made a remarkable progress in Global market in Modi's tenure and that will be destroyed back with a coalition government. It is remarkable that we have not taken a loan from world bank in last 4 years, Modi has backed for UN permanent membership, World Yoga Day, Building support against terrorism..he needs a pat for that.
epraneeth77 wrote:'A bolt out of the blue' for BJP and their supporters including me. Rajasthan and Madhya Pradesh are predominantly farmer oriented and may be Chattisgarh too and not giving loan waiver to the farmers has hit the BJP very hard. Voting is more in rural areas than urban generally.
Modi's mistake cost him 3 states. Even in Mizoram, MNF Party has decided to form its own government as it has majority and does not want to take its ally BJP at all.
Modi is courageous enough to constantly focus on opposition party weakness of progress brought under their rule, but this time it backfired as all the opposition parties are uniting after this shell shock losing for BJP.
Rahul Gandhi has grown into a main opposition leader now and will be the King maker this time around. It is the turn of opposition now to target BJP on Rafale, Demonetization, misuse of institution, etc. Though we know Rafale is a genuine deal, Rahul has been successful in using the ignorance of people.
There have been many agitations by farmers in Delhi and Mumbai as well. But one good thing is the way in which the CM of the states stepped down accepting people's opinion rather than creating any agitation or controversy.
However I did not like Amit Shah speech saying this was the result of state and not of Modi image. It had certainly been Modi image, his campaigning and he is fully responsible for it.
I don't know about other state but for Rajasthan Modi is not responsible. Here CM Rajey is responsible. In this May she remove bane from transfers. The only and only rule for transfer was desire of BJP party worker. Here price of transfer of teacher was 3 lack Rs. She gave full chance to MLA and other party worker to earn. It is an example.
Well said Arunima , Mr Modi no doubt is a committed leader but there are several loose cannons within BJP who don't really know what and when to talk , which only shows their party in poor light. Talking about state elections from many sources I hear that even Maharashtra will be difficult for BJP because of farmers problems and power rates which is one of the highest in India after reliance/adani took over and Shivsena which has been bad mouthing BJP from day one. I also feel that BJP leaders have become overconfident and complacent which will definitely have a negative impact in the coming days .
usha manohar wrote:Well said Arunima , Mr Modi no doubt is a committed leader but there are several loose cannons within BJP who don't really know what and when to talk , which only shows their party in poor light. Talking about state elections from many sources I hear that even Maharashtra will be difficult for BJP because of farmers problems and power rates which is one of the highest in India after reliance/adani took over and Shivsena which has been bad mouthing BJP from day one. I also feel that BJP leaders have become overconfident and complacent which will definitely have a negative impact in the coming days .
That is the unfortunate thing. Even if Opposition talks foul, these leaders including Modi have to learn to be civilized in the rallies and public places. Arrogance and slogans like "Congress Mukt Bharat" might backfire and so does the "Ali-Bajrang Bali analogy". They should talk responsibly and on agendas of development. A tall leader like Modi should not stoop down to level of an immature leader like Rahul who comes and calls the PM a chor.
Arunima Singh wrote:usha manohar wrote:Well said Arunima , Mr Modi no doubt is a committed leader but there are several loose cannons within BJP who don't really know what and when to talk , which only shows their party in poor light. Talking about state elections from many sources I hear that even Maharashtra will be difficult for BJP because of farmers problems and power rates which is one of the highest in India after reliance/adani took over and Shivsena which has been bad mouthing BJP from day one. I also feel that BJP leaders have become overconfident and complacent which will definitely have a negative impact in the coming days .
That is the unfortunate thing. Even if Opposition talks foul, these leaders including Modi have to learn to be civilized in the rallies and public places. Arrogance and slogans like "Congress Mukt Bharat" might backfire and so does the "Ali-Bajrang Bali analogy". They should talk responsibly and on agendas of development. A tall leader like Modi should not stoop down to level of an immature leader like Rahul who comes and calls the PM a chor.
Well said , Arunima. Rahul Gandhi with his loose talks has been a big turn off for those who had supported Congress party earlier. BJP leaders should avoid making the same mistakes and let their works speak for itself. BJP has undertaken many good works but when their leaders also resort to arrogant and irresponsible speeches, it might back fire. Instead of trying to emulate Rahul Gandhi, they can follow Atal Bihari Vajpayee who was known for respecting everyone alike. He spoke with respect to even those with whom he had differences.
jabeen wrote:Arunima Singh wrote:usha manohar wrote:Well said Arunima , Mr Modi no doubt is a committed leader but there are several loose cannons within BJP who don't really know what and when to talk , which only shows their party in poor light. Talking about state elections from many sources I hear that even Maharashtra will be difficult for BJP because of farmers problems and power rates which is one of the highest in India after reliance/adani took over and Shivsena which has been bad mouthing BJP from day one. I also feel that BJP leaders have become overconfident and complacent which will definitely have a negative impact in the coming days .
That is the unfortunate thing. Even if Opposition talks foul, these leaders including Modi have to learn to be civilized in the rallies and public places. Arrogance and slogans like "Congress Mukt Bharat" might backfire and so does the "Ali-Bajrang Bali analogy". They should talk responsibly and on agendas of development. A tall leader like Modi should not stoop down to level of an immature leader like Rahul who comes and calls the PM a chor.
Well said , Arunima. Rahul Gandhi with his loose talks has been a big turn off for those who had supported Congress party earlier. BJP leaders should avoid making the same mistakes and let their works speak for itself. BJP has undertaken many good works but when their leaders also resort to arrogant and irresponsible speeches, it might back fire. Instead of trying to emulate Rahul Gandhi, they can follow Atal Bihari Vajpayee who was known for respecting everyone alike. He spoke with respect to even those with whom he had differences.
Looking Indian like loose talk. With these loose talk Rahul grab three states. Speeches of only BJP leaders are not irresponsible and arrogant. Most of leaders of are using it. Here is example, Ashok Gahlot said about Vasundhra, "Amit Sha Ko Patta Rahi Thi" and Shar Pawar said that "Vasundhra Bahut Moti Ho gai hai" I don't know about other state but in Rajsthan, BJP government was not serious for small problem. At the time of election farmers were craving for fertilizers and waiting in ques for 1 or 2 bags of fertilizers. Think why these people vote to BJP. It is an example.
Re: The crisis of coming elections
Looking Indian like loose talk. With these loose talk Rahul grab three states. Speeches of only BJP leaders are not irresponsible and arrogant. Most of leaders of are using it. Here is example, Ashok Gahlot said about Vasundhra, "Amit Sha Ko Patta Rahi Thi" and Shar Pawar said that "Vasundhra Bahut Moti Ho gai hai" I don't know about other state but in Rajsthan, BJP government was not serious for small problem. At the time of election farmers were craving for fertilizers and waiting in ques for 1 or 2 bags of fertilizers. Think why these people vote to BJP. It is an example..
There definitely is a problem with the way Vasundara Raje ruled the state. It can happen in other states like Maharashtra too
usha manohar wrote:Re: The crisis of coming elections
Looking Indian like loose talk. With these loose talk Rahul grab three states. Speeches of only BJP leaders are not irresponsible and arrogant. Most of leaders of are using it. Here is example, Ashok Gahlot said about Vasundhra, "Amit Sha Ko Patta Rahi Thi" and Shar Pawar said that "Vasundhra Bahut Moti Ho gai hai" I don't know about other state but in Rajsthan, BJP government was not serious for small problem. At the time of election farmers were craving for fertilizers and waiting in ques for 1 or 2 bags of fertilizers. Think why these people vote to BJP. It is an example..
There definitely is a problem with the way Vasundara Raje ruled the state. It can happen in other states like Maharashtra too
Problem in Rajasthan was that Vasundhara was a feeble leader and could not do anything concrete. But that is not the case with Devendra, he has proved his mettle against all odds that were stacked up against him right from day one. Because of his status as a Brahmin, he has faced opposition of the magnitude that no other CM has ever faced anywhere in India and has had a mindboggling number of challenges and allegations thrown at him. But he has proved them all baseless and stood his ground while doing his work on a number of different fronts. The big problem is that barring a couple of ministers, others in his ministry have not been so efficient and on top of that he has to contend with the stupidity of Shivsena which actually should be collaborating with him. Probably the reason why SS is behaving so is because inspite of being a Hindutva outfit, Thakrey and their family, themselves, Kayasthas, have always been against Brahmins and have openly spewed venom against them in the past. While doing that, they have no regard for the state or its people. In spite of all these challenges, Devendra has proven his reliability and trustability and there are many who believe in him. But he will definitely have to work hard the next time around.
Kalyani Nandurkar wrote:usha manohar wrote:Re: The crisis of coming elections
Looking Indian like loose talk. With these loose talk Rahul grab three states. Speeches of only BJP leaders are not irresponsible and arrogant. Most of leaders of are using it. Here is example, Ashok Gahlot said about Vasundhra, "Amit Sha Ko Patta Rahi Thi" and Shar Pawar said that "Vasundhra Bahut Moti Ho gai hai" I don't know about other state but in Rajsthan, BJP government was not serious for small problem. At the time of election farmers were craving for fertilizers and waiting in ques for 1 or 2 bags of fertilizers. Think why these people vote to BJP. It is an example..
There definitely is a problem with the way Vasundara Raje ruled the state. It can happen in other states like Maharashtra too
Problem in Rajasthan was that Vasundhara was a feeble leader and could not do anything concrete. But that is not the case with Devendra, he has proved his mettle against all odds that were stacked up against him right from day one. Because of his status as a Brahmin, he has faced opposition of the magnitude that no other CM has ever faced anywhere in India and has had a mindboggling number of challenges and allegations thrown at him. But he has proved them all baseless and stood his ground while doing his work on a number of different fronts. The big problem is that barring a couple of ministers, others in his ministry have not been so efficient and on top of that he has to contend with the stupidity of Shivsena which actually should be collaborating with him. Probably the reason why SS is behaving so is because inspite of being a Hindutva outfit, Thakrey and their family, themselves, Kayasthas, have always been against Brahmins and have openly spewed venom against them in the past. While doing that, they have no regard for the state or its people. In spite of all these challenges, Devendra has proven his reliability and trustability and there are many who believe in him. But he will definitely have to work hard the next time around.
Yes definitely , Vasundara Raje and Devendra Fadnavis are not comparable at all. However, farmers suicide and the manner in which it has been left to escalate is something that can have a negative impact , so also the power tariff after Adani took over..every small issue becomes a talking point during election time. BJP and it's leaders have this habit of patting their own backs which does not go well with people , also are far too slow while taking the required action against their errant party cadre. Congress was known to shield their own and was criticized for the same , so BJP , to prove it is fair and without bias has to set an example or else they lose credibility ..
usha manohar wrote:Re: The crisis of coming elections
Looking Indian like loose talk. With these loose talk Rahul grab three states. Speeches of only BJP leaders are not irresponsible and arrogant. Most of leaders of are using it. Here is example, Ashok Gahlot said about Vasundhra, "Amit Sha Ko Patta Rahi Thi" and Shar Pawar said that "Vasundhra Bahut Moti Ho gai hai" I don't know about other state but in Rajsthan, BJP government was not serious for small problem. At the time of election farmers were craving for fertilizers and waiting in ques for 1 or 2 bags of fertilizers. Think why these people vote to BJP. It is an example..
There definitely is a problem with the way Vasundara Raje ruled the state. It can happen in other states like Maharashtra too
Vasundhra is from royal family. She is detective by nature. She don't like that any other leaders come forward.
Kalyani Nandurkar wrote:usha manohar wrote:Re: The crisis of coming elections
Looking Indian like loose talk. With these loose talk Rahul grab three states. Speeches of only BJP leaders are not irresponsible and arrogant. Most of leaders of are using it. Here is example, Ashok Gahlot said about Vasundhra, "Amit Sha Ko Patta Rahi Thi" and Shar Pawar said that "Vasundhra Bahut Moti Ho gai hai" I don't know about other state but in Rajsthan, BJP government was not serious for small problem. At the time of election farmers were craving for fertilizers and waiting in ques for 1 or 2 bags of fertilizers. Think why these people vote to BJP. It is an example..
There definitely is a problem with the way Vasundara Raje ruled the state. It can happen in other states like Maharashtra too
Problem in Rajasthan was that Vasundhara was a feeble leader and could not do anything concrete. But that is not the case with Devendra, he has proved his mettle against all odds that were stacked up against him right from day one. Because of his status as a Brahmin, he has faced opposition of the magnitude that no other CM has ever faced anywhere in India and has had a mindboggling number of challenges and allegations thrown at him. But he has proved them all baseless and stood his ground while doing his work on a number of different fronts. The big problem is that barring a couple of ministers, others in his ministry have not been so efficient and on top of that he has to contend with the stupidity of Shivsena which actually should be collaborating with him. Probably the reason why SS is behaving so is because inspite of being a Hindutva outfit, Thakrey and their family, themselves, Kayasthas, have always been against Brahmins and have openly spewed venom against them in the past. While doing that, they have no regard for the state or its people. In spite of all these challenges, Devendra has proven his reliability and trustability and there are many who believe in him. But he will definitely have to work hard the next time around.
What I know about CM of Maharashta that he is Gentleman. Indeed character of Indian politics is changed know. Party who is not in power oppose ruling party as much possible for them. They can use all source which they can. The never care for country and citizen.
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