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North India especially the NCR has millions of Bangladeshis living on pavements and illegal Jhuggis mostly working as laborers and rickshaw pullers, garbage pickers in the day and indulging in various crimes during nights. 

This is a blog written by Chetan Bhagat on the same issue and it does make sense when he says that implementing it now simply does not make sense ..

https://blogs.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/The-underage-optimist/being-human-in-assam-india-cant-strip-the-citizenship-of-people-who-have-built-a-life-here-for-47-years/?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=TOI&utm_content=om-bm

Kalyani Nandurkar wrote:

usha manohar wrote:

In fact these immigrants are spilling over to other places as well. We have a settlement of Bangladeshis here in Mangalore and most of them work in shops and restaurants and are by themselves. According to one of my relatives who runs a eatery , they are very hard working and docile. Apparently there was a raid for illegal immigrants and my relative shielded a few who work for him by paying so e bribe..it is very difficult to take a firm stand when they are not causing any trouble and a couple of them are Hindus .

Not all of them are causing trouble, they might be docile and hard workers in other places, but in Assam, WB they are responsible for a lot of civil strife, rapes on women, and other sorts of crimes. Also their docility does not still negate their illegal status, if it had been the other way round, Hindus in their country, would they have been guaranteed the exact safe haven that these people get when they are in India? Even a peaceful country like Sri Lanka whom we have helped a lot over decades loses no time in arresting and jailing our fisherfolk who frequently cross over their waters unintentionally. We are already grunting under the weight of overpopulation, do we really need the burden of such people now?

Well said Kalyani, they are hard worker, honest all is right but illegal is illegal. Population of country is reached at alarming stage, it is not possible for country to tolerate this extra burden. We are facing problem of poverty, unemployment, shortage of sources. How country will feed these peoples. It is saying that "Kanak Ke sath Ghun Bhi Piss Jata hai. Peoples who are Indian citizen  and  living for hundred years in Assam also facing this problem because of illegal immigrants. I read today in news papers that Rajasthani, Bihari Uttar Pradeshi, also have not name in NRC.

usha manohar wrote:

This is a blog written by Chetan Bhagat on the same issue and it does make sense when he says that implementing it now simply does not make sense ..

https://blogs.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/The-underage-optimist/being-human-in-assam-india-cant-strip-the-citizenship-of-people-who-have-built-a-life-here-for-47-years/?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=TOI&utm_content=om-bm

I read it yesterday, It is not fault of India  and Indians that they are living here for 47 or more years. India helps then enough but at present country can't tolerate this burden. When original citizen is facing problem of employment, from where country give job to these. Original citizen have first right on source of country.

If you have not visited Maldah, Siliguri and many other districts in Bengal and entire Assam state then you have no idea what is the real meaning of illegal immigrants. They have out numbered the locals and there seems to be no reversal of current situation. You can get enough hard working local people but the way our demography is suffering is beyond repair.

suni51 wrote:

If you have not visited Maldah, Siliguri and many other districts in Bengal and entire Assam state then you have no idea what is the real meaning of illegal immigrants. They have out numbered the locals and there seems to be no reversal of current situation. You can get enough hard working local people but the way our demography is suffering is beyond repair.

I agree with you people come from other countries like a mendicant, later they begins to behave like owner. India is soft state so Muslim, Parsi and Christian come here and set here, but these are now a problem for country, Muslim is not agree to accept that we are Indian and Christian is busy in religion change. Nepali, Bangldeshi, Burmi and in coming you will see her Pakistani Hindus.  

suni51 wrote:

If you have not visited Maldah, Siliguri and many other districts in Bengal and entire Assam state then you have no idea what is the real meaning of illegal immigrants. They have out numbered the locals and there seems to be no reversal of current situation. You can get enough hard working local people but the way our demography is suffering is beyond repair.

I agree that things have been left too far but as of now , I can only see much more problem that India might face by throwing them out. They will not be accepted by Bangladesh , but the terror outfits would welcome them and that would be even more dangerous..

usha manohar wrote:

suni51 wrote:

If you have not visited Maldah, Siliguri and many other districts in Bengal and entire Assam state then you have no idea what is the real meaning of illegal immigrants. They have out numbered the locals and there seems to be no reversal of current situation. You can get enough hard working local people but the way our demography is suffering is beyond repair.

I agree that things have been left too far but as of now , I can only see much more problem that India might face by throwing them out. They will not be accepted by Bangladesh , but the terror outfits would welcome them and that would be even more dangerous..

This problem is not a minor problem. It is not problem of only Assam, it is problem in whole country. What will be happen in future we don't know, it current problem for where country feed these peoples. Read this article.

http://epaper.bhaskar.com/detail/135391/08050155260062/0/map/tabs-1/2018-08-05%2000:00:00/41/15/image/

usha manohar wrote:

suni51 wrote:

If you have not visited Maldah, Siliguri and many other districts in Bengal and entire Assam state then you have no idea what is the real meaning of illegal immigrants. They have out numbered the locals and there seems to be no reversal of current situation. You can get enough hard working local people but the way our demography is suffering is beyond repair.

I agree that things have been left too far but as of now , I can only see much more problem that India might face by throwing them out. They will not be accepted by Bangladesh , but the terror outfits would welcome them and that would be even more dangerous..

What you says make sense. That outcome has to be considered too but just as Sunil mentioned, the problems of illegal immigrants is affecting the demography of India. The problem is not limited just to West Bengal or Assam but in the entire Northeast regions of India. And in Manipur the cases of illegal immigrants entering from Rohingya were also reported. 

India has always been lax about it's border infiltration even with repeated threat from Pakistan which began soon after Independence. With the formation of Bangladesh at least they should have taken care to seal the borders . We never had any identification as citizens until a decade ago , which is also not thorough. Instead of an election card, aadhar and oan card why not have one single card that caters to everything like it is in other countries. Now with the kind of cirrupc practice s we have , any of the immigrant who has been here for a decade or two can easily have documents to prove, more so when they have an agenda. They will first make sure that they have all the papers. In fact it is the poorer lot that has infiltrated with the hope of a better life , that is less likely to have all the required documents. Unless there is commitment , it will not be easy to weed out the real culprits.

jabeen wrote:

usha manohar wrote:

suni51 wrote:

If you have not visited Maldah, Siliguri and many other districts in Bengal and entire Assam state then you have no idea what is the real meaning of illegal immigrants. They have out numbered the locals and there seems to be no reversal of current situation. You can get enough hard working local people but the way our demography is suffering is beyond repair.

I agree that things have been left too far but as of now , I can only see much more problem that India might face by throwing them out. They will not be accepted by Bangladesh , but the terror outfits would welcome them and that would be even more dangerous..

What you says make sense. That outcome has to be considered too but just as Sunil mentioned, the problems of illegal immigrants is affecting the demography of India. The problem is not limited just to West Bengal or Assam but in the entire Northeast regions of India. And in Manipur the cases of illegal immigrants entering from Rohingya were also reported. 

I was shocked to know that in some districts of Assam they have become the majority and Friday instead of Sunday is a holiday.. Are these district not part of India to have a holiday on Sunday??? Political parties are just damaging the nationality thread in lure of votes and playing vote politics.

usha manohar wrote:

India has always been lax about it's border infiltration even with repeated threat from Pakistan which began soon after Independence. With the formation of Bangladesh at least they should have taken care to seal the borders . We never had any identification as citizens until a decade ago , which is also not thorough. Instead of an election card, aadhar and oan card why not have one single card that caters to everything like it is in other countries. Now with the kind of cirrupc practice s we have , any of the immigrant who has been here for a decade or two can easily have documents to prove, more so when they have an agenda. They will first make sure that they have all the papers. In fact it is the poorer lot that has infiltrated with the hope of a better life , that is less likely to have all the required documents. Unless there is commitment , it will not be easy to weed out the real culprits.

I really wonder why even after so many years of independence, we have not implemented an unique identification number for citizen seriously with strict measures. It should be mandatory and can be given after following strict guidelines and investigation. There are so many loops and holes. All these identification cards that we have be it Pan card, voter id.....we have plenty of fakes been issued. Some strict measures have to be taken to curb it.

Arunima Singh wrote:

jabeen wrote:

usha manohar wrote:

suni51 wrote:

If you have not visited Maldah, Siliguri and many other districts in Bengal and entire Assam state then you have no idea what is the real meaning of illegal immigrants. They have out numbered the locals and there seems to be no reversal of current situation. You can get enough hard working local people but the way our demography is suffering is beyond repair.

I agree that things have been left too far but as of now , I can only see much more problem that India might face by throwing them out. They will not be accepted by Bangladesh , but the terror outfits would welcome them and that would be even more dangerous..

What you says make sense. That outcome has to be considered too but just as Sunil mentioned, the problems of illegal immigrants is affecting the demography of India. The problem is not limited just to West Bengal or Assam but in the entire Northeast regions of India. And in Manipur the cases of illegal immigrants entering from Rohingya were also reported. 

I was shocked to know that in some districts of Assam they have become the majority and Friday instead of Sunday is a holiday.. Are these district not part of India to have a holiday on Sunday??? Political parties are just damaging the nationality thread in lure of votes and playing vote politics.

I am listening first time that in India Friday is holiday. They are taking benefit of India being a soft state. In coming it may be possible that they will demand separate state for them. Crors of Nepali is also living in India. In earlier years they are not problem, but at present Nepal have cordial relation with China than India. So it may be possible that in coming years Nepalis  will be problem for India.

Arunima Singh wrote:

usha manohar wrote:

India has always been lax about it's border infiltration even with repeated threat from Pakistan which began soon after Independence. With the formation of Bangladesh at least they should have taken care to seal the borders . We never had any identification as citizens until a decade ago , which is also not thorough. Instead of an election card, aadhar and oan card why not have one single card that caters to everything like it is in other countries. Now with the kind of cirrupc practice s we have , any of the immigrant who has been here for a decade or two can easily have documents to prove, more so when they have an agenda. They will first make sure that they have all the papers. In fact it is the poorer lot that has infiltrated with the hope of a better life , that is less likely to have all the required documents. Unless there is commitment , it will not be easy to weed out the real culprits.

I really wonder why even after so many years of independence, we have not implemented an unique identification number for citizen seriously with strict measures. It should be mandatory and can be given after following strict guidelines and investigation. There are so many loops and holes. All these identification cards that we have be it Pan card, voter id.....we have plenty of fakes been issued. Some strict measures have to be taken to curb it.

After independence India have many other problems and also have not sources to implement identification program. Earlier name in voter list was only proof of citizenship. But it was very easy to enroll in voter list. so people which come to here from other countries get voter no. 

NRC is very much needed in Assam as North East states are very prone to illegal migration. This step should have been taken a long time ago.

Arunima Singh wrote:

jabeen wrote:

usha manohar wrote:

suni51 wrote:

If you have not visited Maldah, Siliguri and many other districts in Bengal and entire Assam state then you have no idea what is the real meaning of illegal immigrants. They have out numbered the locals and there seems to be no reversal of current situation. You can get enough hard working local people but the way our demography is suffering is beyond repair.

I agree that things have been left too far but as of now , I can only see much more problem that India might face by throwing them out. They will not be accepted by Bangladesh , but the terror outfits would welcome them and that would be even more dangerous..

What you says make sense. That outcome has to be considered too but just as Sunil mentioned, the problems of illegal immigrants is affecting the demography of India. The problem is not limited just to West Bengal or Assam but in the entire Northeast regions of India. And in Manipur the cases of illegal immigrants entering from Rohingya were also reported. 

I was shocked to know that in some districts of Assam they have become the majority and Friday instead of Sunday is a holiday.. Are these district not part of India to have a holiday on Sunday??? Political parties are just damaging the nationality thread in lure of votes and playing vote politics.

Though in Jiribam district of Manipur, Sunday is still an official holiday, but more than half of the population consist of illegal immigrants from Bengal. Recently after the NRC was published, when government officials went there for some sort of survey they chased them and prevented them from conducting any sorts of survey. Even the police which accompanied the officials were attacked leading to bandh like condition.

Similarly,in Dimapur region of Nagaland there are a large number of illegal immigrants from Bangladesh

jabeen wrote:

Arunima Singh wrote:

jabeen wrote:

usha manohar wrote:

suni51 wrote:

If you have not visited Maldah, Siliguri and many other districts in Bengal and entire Assam state then you have no idea what is the real meaning of illegal immigrants. They have out numbered the locals and there seems to be no reversal of current situation. You can get enough hard working local people but the way our demography is suffering is beyond repair.

I agree that things have been left too far but as of now , I can only see much more problem that India might face by throwing them out. They will not be accepted by Bangladesh , but the terror outfits would welcome them and that would be even more dangerous..

What you says make sense. That outcome has to be considered too but just as Sunil mentioned, the problems of illegal immigrants is affecting the demography of India. The problem is not limited just to West Bengal or Assam but in the entire Northeast regions of India. And in Manipur the cases of illegal immigrants entering from Rohingya were also reported. 

I was shocked to know that in some districts of Assam they have become the majority and Friday instead of Sunday is a holiday.. Are these district not part of India to have a holiday on Sunday??? Political parties are just damaging the nationality thread in lure of votes and playing vote politics.

Though in Jiribam district of Manipur, Sunday is still an official holiday, but more than half of the population consist of illegal immigrants from Bengal. Recently after the NRC was published, when government officials went there for some sort of survey they chased them and prevented them from conducting any sorts of survey. Even the police which accompanied the officials were attacked leading to bandh like condition.

Similarly,in Dimapur region of Nagaland there are a large number of illegal immigrants from Bangladesh

I would like to know the situation about Tripura? I know some NE States are full of immigrants (and not all of them are Muslims) I have met a lot of Hindus in Maldah, Silchar, Nougaon, and in Nagaland apart from in and around Siliguri and Guvahati. Most of them live there for a long time. In fact one immigrant had even offered me to visit Bangladesh via Silli border near Maldah. You can't imagine the situation in Barasat, Krishnanagar, Balurghat etc. I am sure other bordering towns of Bengal are also the same but I have not stayed there for long. I have reasons to believe that there are at least 2 crore illegal immigrants from different countries.  

It sounds scary ...just imagine , outsiders coming in as illegal immigrants and taking over the place. This can happen only in India because of Congress rule and now because of Mamata Raj ..if they are booted out, I am sure it would become a lot easier to regulate the process

usha manohar wrote:

It sounds scary ...just imagine , outsiders coming in as illegal immigrants and taking over the place. This can happen only in India because of Congress rule and now because of Mamata Raj ..if they are booted out, I am sure it would become a lot easier to regulate the process

They always worked with their own benefit as priority. They always think of short term gain in vote and winning elections. The long term effect on the Nation has failed in their personal greed. Now she is all set to ignite a civil war for her greed. So illogical!!

usha manohar wrote:

It sounds scary ...just imagine , outsiders coming in as illegal immigrants and taking over the place. This can happen only in India because of Congress rule and now because of Mamata Raj ..if they are booted out, I am sure it would become a lot easier to regulate the process

West Bengal is suffering at another front in Darjeeling and Kalimpong area by people from Nepal (and Sikkim is another disturbed area). They consider it as Nepali area and trying to take it over. The situation is going on for decades and you can hear bomb blasts and violent incidents every once in a while. Every one from surrounding countries enter in India as if they were coming here for picnic courtesy corruption in every department and then politicians try to protect them as their vote banks.