Reality of worship

If it really happens, its thoughtless action. The authorities need to take action immediately. But one needs to be cautious about believing such kinds of provocative news.  If it was a reality, many passengers in the railway station would ve created an uproar by now.

Guess the right or wrong has to be determined by oneself.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethics

Religion and god should be a personal matter , not to be flaunted on the streets and create nuisance and inconvenience to the public. That is just selfishness and thoughtlessness..

The only thing I cannot help wondering here is that this would be the freedom of exercising the right to practise religion, I wonder if people would have been equally understanding if these people were Hindus.

jabeen wrote:

If it really happens, its thoughtless action. The authorities need to take action immediately. But one needs to be cautious about believing such kinds of provocative news.  If it was a reality, many passengers in the railway station would ve created an uproar by now.

It is reality,many passenger suffered with it. Looking passenger would not create uproar, because it religious matter. any type of uproar may be cause of religious riot.

anil wrote:

jabeen wrote:

If it really happens, its thoughtless action. The authorities need to take action immediately. But one needs to be cautious about believing such kinds of provocative news.  If it was a reality, many passengers in the railway station would ve created an uproar by now.

It is reality,many passenger suffered with it. Looking passenger would not create uproar, because it religious matter. any type of uproar may be cause of religious riot.

If the passengers had suffered how come none of them had vent their anger in the social media? I don't remember, reading about any such incidence in any social media other than the link you sent. Nowadays, with so many Photoshop apps available, many fake news are making round. 

Anyway, if it is a fact than definitely actions should be taken again them. After all they are disturbing the proper functioning of railways. Authorities cannot stay quiet in fear of riot. What is wrong is wrong and should be nipped in bud.

jabeen wrote:

anil wrote:

jabeen wrote:

If it really happens, its thoughtless action. The authorities need to take action immediately. But one needs to be cautious about believing such kinds of provocative news.  If it was a reality, many passengers in the railway station would ve created an uproar by now.

It is reality,many passenger suffered with it. Looking passenger would not create uproar, because it religious matter. any type of uproar may be cause of religious riot.

If the passengers had suffered how come none of them had vent their anger in the social media? I don't remember, reading about any such incidence in any social media other than the link you sent. Nowadays, with so many Photoshop apps available, many fake news are making round. 

Anyway, if it is a fact than definitely actions should be taken again them. After all they are disturbing the proper functioning of railways. Authorities cannot stay quiet in fear of riot. What is wrong is wrong and should be nipped in bud.

When it is a question of Islam no action will ever be taken and this has been going on since a long time ...I am quoting from an article

Speaking to Alt News, Anindya Chattopadhyay confirmed that he had clicked this photograph and said, “This practice (of offering namaz) has been going on for years. I have been clicking pictures of this event for the last 5 years. Achchan Miya mosque is a very popular mosque. The practice began with muslim officials of Railways offering prayer at the mosque which lies on the railway track. Later on, other people also joined. Every year, the train is halted for 15-20 minutes to allow namaz. It has become a tradition”. Times of India had also published a video of devotees offering prayer on the railway track which lies near Achchan Mian mosque.

This is very much a reality, allowing such mass prayer sessions on public spaces is supposed to be secularism and extending solidarity towards that community even if it might disrupt the normal routine lives of hundreds or people and involve economical losses. But practise public festivals such as Durgapuja on WB or take out processions of Hindu festivals from Muslim dominated areas in many cities, it is invariably interpreted as a threatening gesture to the Muslims and immediately called as rise of saffron extremism.

I hope you all must have read in the news about violent rioting that happened in the Aurangabad, Maharashtra last week. The reason for riots was that the Municipal authorities had disconnected an illegal water connection in a mosque. The Muslim youth in those localities came out with handcarts bearing large heaps of rocks and bottles containing petrol which were hurled at Hindu houses and shops/ Several houses, shops, vehicles were burned down as a result. It was an indeed ugly situation and even the police who had no protection or weapons at all except for their batons too had to flee to save their lives., It was then the Shivsena activists cameo out to fight these rioters. Now the riot has died down but it is only the SHivsena activists that have been arrested for causing the riot and damage to public property.

jabeen wrote:

anil wrote:

jabeen wrote:

If it really happens, its thoughtless action. The authorities need to take action immediately. But one needs to be cautious about believing such kinds of provocative news.  If it was a reality, many passengers in the railway station would ve created an uproar by now.

It is reality,many passenger suffered with it. Looking passenger would not create uproar, because it religious matter. any type of uproar may be cause of religious riot.

If the passengers had suffered how come none of them had vent their anger in the social media? I don't remember, reading about any such incidence in any social media other than the link you sent. Nowadays, with so many Photoshop apps available, many fake news are making round. 

Anyway, if it is a fact than definitely actions should be taken again them. After all they are disturbing the proper functioning of railways. Authorities cannot stay quiet in fear of riot. What is wrong is wrong and should be nipped in bud.

Action in India, impossible. remember Guzzar agitation for reservation in Rajasthan. They were blocked one principal route for many days and uprooted railway line. 

Religion and God. I know this is a little bit personal matter but there are people who believe and who don't believe in God

Yogita wrote:

Religion and God. I know this is a little bit personal matter but there are people who believe and who don't believe in God

Yes religion is personal matter but one should be careful than no one heart with her/him believe.

Yogita wrote:

Religion and God. I know this is a little bit personal matter but there are people who believe and who don't believe in God

It is indeed a personal matter but displaying faith outside the limits of one's home to the point where it disrupts public life is something that we can do without.

Kalyani Nandurkar wrote:

Yogita wrote:

Religion and God. I know this is a little bit personal matter but there are people who believe and who don't believe in God

It is indeed a personal matter but displaying faith outside the limits of one's home to the point where it disrupts public life is something that we can do without.

Only and only message of all religion is love others help others. Any worship which hurt and insult other is not worship at all. Worship of God is for welfare of all world.

Kalyani Nandurkar wrote:

Yogita wrote:

Religion and God. I know this is a little bit personal matter but there are people who believe and who don't believe in God

It is indeed a personal matter but displaying faith outside the limits of one's home to the point where it disrupts public life is something that we can do without.

I totally agree with you. Disrupting pubic life should not be allowed whether it is using loud speakers for kirthans or fo namaaz. 

People need to keep their civic sense intact when practicing their religion in a public domain.

Arunima Singh wrote:

Kalyani Nandurkar wrote:

Yogita wrote:

Religion and God. I know this is a little bit personal matter but there are people who believe and who don't believe in God

It is indeed a personal matter but displaying faith outside the limits of one's home to the point where it disrupts public life is something that we can do without.

I totally agree with you. Disrupting pubic life should not be allowed whether it is using loud speakers for kirthans or fo namaaz. 

People need to keep their civic sense intact when practicing their religion in a public domain.

We must be change with time. Earlier when we have not any problem of noise pollution, than speaker was not a problem. But in these day noise pollution is increasing day by day. Hearing problem is also increasing. So it better for society to use speakers etc. with care. In my city it is law that after 10 PM no one can use high volume sound system.

Other than disruption of public life, I also feel angry about the forced conversion. That is one thing that upsets me. People can not propagate their religion using guns and bets. One can convert if he/she finds his belief in faith but forced conversion in the name of propagation of religion is a heinous crime.

Arunima Singh wrote:

Other than disruption of public life, I also feel angry about the forced conversion. That is one thing that upsets me. People can not propagate their religion using guns and bets. One can convert if he/she finds his belief in faith but forced conversion in the name of propagation of religion is a heinous crime.

It is difficult to define forced conversion because there is always a catch and it is made to look as if the person has done it out of his/her own free will. Recently one of my Hindu friends who has been married to a Catholic for 23 years , converted to Catholism. She of course believes that she has done the right thing and shd have done it before. When I speak to her , she sounds exactly like one of those nuns who keep visiting Hindu homes and speak of nothing but greatness of Christ and find fault with all other religious beliefs especially Hinduism. I was shocked to hear her condemn the religion of her birth...

I remember her crying her heart out about how her husband and his family almost forced her to convert which she withstood all these years but at some stage she must have felt that it would be better to convert since both her sons were baptised . But, I wonder if there is any need to abuse your previous religion? Or is it a form of guilt that makes her do so? She has given me a Bible as a gift and says that if I study it , I too will want to convert !!!!

usha manohar wrote:

Arunima Singh wrote:

Other than disruption of public life, I also feel angry about the forced conversion. That is one thing that upsets me. People can not propagate their religion using guns and bets. One can convert if he/she finds his belief in faith but forced conversion in the name of propagation of religion is a heinous crime.

It is difficult to define forced conversion because there is always a catch and it is made to look as if the person has done it out of his/her own free will. Recently one of my Hindu friends who has been married to a Catholic for 23 years , converted to Catholism. She of course believes that she has done the right thing and shd have done it before. When I speak to her , she sounds exactly like one of those nuns who keep visiting Hindu homes and speak of nothing but greatness of Christ and find fault with all other religious beliefs especially Hinduism. I was shocked to hear her condemn the religion of her birth...

I remember her crying her heart out about how her husband and his family almost forced her to convert which she withstood all these years but at some stage she must have felt that it would be better to convert since both her sons were baptised . But, I wonder if there is any need to abuse your previous religion? Or is it a form of guilt that makes her do so? She has given me a Bible as a gift and says that if I study it , I too will want to convert !!!!

Your friend has been thoroughly brainwashed and conditioned by her family during the 23 years of her marriage and so the conversion etc. However, I still find it ridiculous that she should criticise Hinduism and try to make a point that Christianity is greater than Hinduism. That is the fault with all other religions especially such as Christianity and Islam. In order to prove themselves great, they resort to belittling other religions which never ever happens with Hindus.

And about conversions, the Christian missionaries are forever on the path to convert more and more Hindus , recently we read about some people approaching a community in New Delhi offering a feast of samosas if they converted. Then there are tribals who were converted in Assam (or Odisha - not sure exactly) in return for a bag of rice. Those converts are still called Rice Bag Christians. And ever since Modi has put a stop to the fundings these churches receive from outside, they have bitten in the @$$ and are outraged. Hence the call from the Bishop in New Delhi to his flock asking them to start praying from now on that Modi should get defeated in the coming elections.

Kalyani Nandurkar wrote:

usha manohar wrote:

Arunima Singh wrote:

Other than disruption of public life, I also feel angry about the forced conversion. That is one thing that upsets me. People can not propagate their religion using guns and bets. One can convert if he/she finds his belief in faith but forced conversion in the name of propagation of religion is a heinous crime.

It is difficult to define forced conversion because there is always a catch and it is made to look as if the person has done it out of his/her own free will. Recently one of my Hindu friends who has been married to a Catholic for 23 years , converted to Catholism. She of course believes that she has done the right thing and shd have done it before. When I speak to her , she sounds exactly like one of those nuns who keep visiting Hindu homes and speak of nothing but greatness of Christ and find fault with all other religious beliefs especially Hinduism. I was shocked to hear her condemn the religion of her birth...

I remember her crying her heart out about how her husband and his family almost forced her to convert which she withstood all these years but at some stage she must have felt that it would be better to convert since both her sons were baptised . But, I wonder if there is any need to abuse your previous religion? Or is it a form of guilt that makes her do so? She has given me a Bible as a gift and says that if I study it , I too will want to convert !!!!

Your friend has been thoroughly brainwashed and conditioned by her family during the 23 years of her marriage and so the conversion etc. However, I still find it ridiculous that she should criticise Hinduism and try to make a point that Christianity is greater than Hinduism. That is the fault with all other religions especially such as Christianity and Islam. In order to prove themselves great, they resort to belittling other religions which never ever happens with Hindus.

And about conversions, the Christian missionaries are forever on the path to convert more and more Hindus , recently we read about some people approaching a community in New Delhi offering a feast of samosas if they converted. Then there are tribals who were converted in Assam (or Odisha - not sure exactly) in return for a bag of rice. Those converts are still called Rice Bag Christians. And ever since Modi has put a stop to the fundings these churches receive from outside, they have bitten in the @$$ and are outraged. Hence the call from the Bishop in New Delhi to his flock asking them to start praying from now on that Modi should get defeated in the coming elections.

Many tribes in my husband's place Ranchi are converted by Missionaries by offering them goodies like rice bags and grocery supply. They are thoroughly brainwashed by the missionaries. They take advantage of their poverty to propagate their religion. 

The goodness of no religion is above the other. They all have same underlying message. So why show some as superior to other.

Both Islam and Christianity openly propagate conversion. There is no doubt about that but what is very disturbing is the attitude of the new converts. In a first of its kind, here in my neighborhood ,a Muslim girl married to a Catholic man was forced to convert which led to a near war like situation because Muslims don't let anyone leave their faith , it is a prestige issue for them. It is still simmering ...since the man works in Dubai and the couple will leave in a short time , I guess the Church has the upper hand