Death penalty for child rapist

The death penalty ,if proved is justified as far as I am.concerned because it takes an extremely dangerous and deviant mind to indulge in such a disgusting and barbaric act , so they are a danger to the society as a whole.

Death penalty to all rapists (not only to child abusers) and that too in public. I am sure the evil will disappear within no time once implicated.

So easy to write thus. But people are forgetting the Hindu character. That's why Frank Moreas wrote about the " meek and mild Hindu". You may have death on the statute books  but who will execute it?. Till date the Nirbhya killers are not hanged though years have passed. India hanged just one rapist in last 20 years. So? In fact even under previous law hanging is a punishment for murder but NO BODY is hanged. Let Hindus look inwards and exorcise the ghost of cowardice, maybe something may improve.

The death penalty does not teach anything to the person who has conducted crime. I am not very sure about it. Some may disagree and say that at least others will be threatened so that they do not indulge in any such activity. However, I feel that crime should stop not because punishments are cruel but because we understand the difference between right and wrong.

Reena wrote:

The death penalty does not teach anything to the person who has conducted crime. I am not very sure about it. Some may disagree and say that at least others will be threatened so that they do not indulge in any such activity. However, I feel that crime should stop not because punishments are cruel but because we understand the difference between right and wrong.

That is all about morality talk and change of mindset in the society...that is a gradual and time taking process.

A strict punishment would instill fear in the mnd of wrong doers. But the justice has to come fast for it's effectiveness. 

As far as reform and teaching lessons is concerned, these monsters are beyond repair and reform. Keeping them alive in jail eating rotis on taxpayers money does not make any sense. They should be hanged till death.

No other nation is so soft on rapists

Reena wrote:

The death penalty does not teach anything to the person who has conducted crime. I am not very sure about it. Some may disagree and say that at least others will be threatened so that they do not indulge in any such activity. However, I feel that crime should stop not because punishments are cruel but because we understand the difference between right and wrong.

This is a dream talk and bane of India. Death is a great deterrent and the Law Commission and eminent jurists have confirmed it. The question is why it is not implemented in India? non-implementation of death sentences is the cause of crime growing.

Arunima Singh wrote:

Reena wrote:

The death penalty does not teach anything to the person who has conducted crime. I am not very sure about it. Some may disagree and say that at least others will be threatened so that they do not indulge in any such activity. However, I feel that crime should stop not because punishments are cruel but because we understand the difference between right and wrong.

That is all about morality talk and change of mindset in the society...that is a gradual and time taking process.

A strict punishment would instill fear in the mnd of wrong doers. But the justice has to come fast for it's effectiveness. 

As far as reform and teaching lessons is concerned, these monsters are beyond repair and reform. Keeping them alive in jail eating rotis on taxpayers money does not make any sense. They should be hanged till death.

No other nation is so soft on rapists

Well said! We are weak when we don't implement the death sentence. In the USA last year at least 23 were executed and in China 2400 were executed. In India, one criminal is executed in 20 years the last in 2006.No wonder crime WILL GROW

I wonder why nobody has commented on my remark about the "meek and mild Hindu". In fact, there was no need for a special law as the death penalty was already on the statute books for murder. So a girl being raped and murdered merited death. But Hindus are scared to implement the death. In Pakistan which has a similar law inherited from the British ( Pak Penal code), 477 were hanged last year.As per reports terrorism HAS come down in Pak because of this. In India, we make laws only and don't implement them. To what use?Maybe it has something to do with Hindu psyche.

MG Singh wrote:

I wonder why nobody has commented on my remark about the "meek and mild Hindu". In fact, there was no need for a special law as the death penalty was already on the statute books for murder. So a girl being raped and murdered merited death. But Hindus are scared to implement the death. In Pakistan which has a similar law inherited from the British ( Pak Penal code), 477 were hanged last year.As per reports terrorism HAS come down in Pak because of this. In India, we make laws only and don't implement them. To what use?Maybe it has something to do with Hindu psyche.

I did not completely understand. Please elaborate "meek and mild Hindu". Why are they scared to implement the death?

Reena wrote:

MG Singh wrote:

I wonder why nobody has commented on my remark about the "meek and mild Hindu". In fact, there was no need for a special law as the death penalty was already on the statute books for murder. So a girl being raped and murdered merited death. But Hindus are scared to implement the death. In Pakistan which has a similar law inherited from the British ( Pak Penal code), 477 were hanged last year.As per reports terrorism HAS come down in Pak because of this. In India, we make laws only and don't implement them. To what use?Maybe it has something to do with Hindu psyche.

I did not completely understand. Please elaborate "meek and mild Hindu". Why are they scared to implement the death?

This can't be explained in a para but I will try. The Hindus are a pacifist people who abhor bloodshed. That is the reason Hindus were ruled for 1100 years which has no parallel in world history. This pacifist approach is based on compassion and the Hindu belief in karma. Hindus psyche does not permit violence, so FraNk Moreas coined the word " Meek and mild Hindu". In other words a Hindu will accept his lot as part of fate and not shed any blood. This manifests into not hanging murderers on the mistaken belief that death is the prerogative only of almighty. Thus hardened criminals murders rapists like Nirbhaya criminals are still not executed though years have passed. It's in the genes of Hindus not to confront adversary with blood. I hope I have given a small intro.

@ MG Singh. I never thought on these lines. However I would definitely agree that the attitude of soft and mild Hinduism has definitely done a lot of exploitation to the community and nation on a whole. This is for the first time I have heard something on this line regarding the laws and implementation, I can not fully comprehend and comment. But definitely it gives a different perspective worth considering

I would call majority of the Hindus as  both cowards and opportunistic fence sitters and attack when they know the other side has no defence like attacking a lone criminal who has stolen food or a common Eve teaser. They beat them up black and blue but when it comes to the rich and the powerful , that's a different story. They become powerless when faced with brutal power . That's precisely how such a large number of them got converted and let the Mughals and British rule for centuries rather than drive them out..

MG Singh wrote:

Reena wrote:

MG Singh wrote:

I wonder why nobody has commented on my remark about the "meek and mild Hindu". In fact, there was no need for a special law as the death penalty was already on the statute books for murder. So a girl being raped and murdered merited death. But Hindus are scared to implement the death. In Pakistan which has a similar law inherited from the British ( Pak Penal code), 477 were hanged last year.As per reports terrorism HAS come down in Pak because of this. In India, we make laws only and don't implement them. To what use?Maybe it has something to do with Hindu psyche.

I did not completely understand. Please elaborate "meek and mild Hindu". Why are they scared to implement the death?

This can't be explained in a para but I will try. The Hindus are a pacifist people who abhor bloodshed. That is the reason Hindus were ruled for 1100 years which has no parallel in world history. This pacifist approach is based on compassion and the Hindu belief in karma. Hindus psyche does not permit violence, so FraNk Moreas coined the word " Meek and mild Hindu". In other words a Hindu will accept his lot as part of fate and not shed any blood. This manifests into not hanging murderers on the mistaken belief that death is the prerogative only of almighty. Thus hardened criminals murders rapists like Nirbhaya criminals are still not executed though years have passed. It's in the genes of Hindus not to confront adversary with blood. I hope I have given a small intro.

Thanks for the explanation. Now I have an idea about the term "meek and mild Hindu". It is more like kind and generous. Forgiveness is given more importance in Hinduism.

Arunima Singh wrote:

@ MG Singh. I never thought on these lines. However I would definitely agree that the attitude of soft and mild Hinduism has definitely done a lot of exploitation to the community and nation on a whole. This is for the first time I have heard something on this line regarding the laws and implementation, I can not fully comprehend and comment. But definitely it gives a different perspective worth considering

I truly believe that people hide behind religions. I don't really see a point in blaming them. It is we who behave the way we want to and hide behind so and so religion.

Reena wrote:

Arunima Singh wrote:

@ MG Singh. I never thought on these lines. However I would definitely agree that the attitude of soft and mild Hinduism has definitely done a lot of exploitation to the community and nation on a whole. This is for the first time I have heard something on this line regarding the laws and implementation, I can not fully comprehend and comment. But definitely it gives a different perspective worth considering

I truly believe that people hide behind religions. I don't really see a point in blaming them. It is we who behave the way we want to and hide behind so and so religion.

Sociologists have studied and opined that religion conditions a human being. That is the reason Muslims are so aggressive all over the world. Their religion advocates it. Catholics are also very rigid. Remember the days of inquisition in Europe. Hinduism is a mild and meek faith and for that reason Hinduism which at one time spread from central Asia to Indo China is confined to sub continent. Here also 40% converted to islam. Thus thinking of a man is conditioned by religion. No wonder we can't even hand murderers and rapists.

MG Singh wrote:

Reena wrote:

Arunima Singh wrote:

@ MG Singh. I never thought on these lines. However I would definitely agree that the attitude of soft and mild Hinduism has definitely done a lot of exploitation to the community and nation on a whole. This is for the first time I have heard something on this line regarding the laws and implementation, I can not fully comprehend and comment. But definitely it gives a different perspective worth considering

I truly believe that people hide behind religions. I don't really see a point in blaming them. It is we who behave the way we want to and hide behind so and so religion.

Sociologists have studied and opined that religion conditions a human being. That is the reason Muslims are so aggressive all over the world. Their religion advocates it. Catholics are also very rigid. Remember the days of inquisition in Europe. Hinduism is a mild and meek faith and for that reason Hinduism which at one time spread from central Asia to Indo China is confined to sub continent. Here also 40% converted to islam. Thus thinking of a man is conditioned by religion. No wonder we can't even hand murderers and rapists.

Well grown and brought up in a liberal atmosphere, I never turned out to be religious. I have a strong faith in Almighty ( I will call myself as more spiritual than religious). Am bringing up my kids the same way. My teenage daughter claims to be an atheist and I never force her to come for any religious rituals. She believes in soul and supreme power but no religion...she discards it as a man made division. I respect her view as she is a very fine human being...logical in her mind. She however has been always told by me and my husband that she has to not upset other's faith because of her belief.

But this sounds interesting and quite valid that your religion ( if you are brought up with strong feelings about it) does define your personality. 

Arunima Singh wrote:

MG Singh wrote:

Reena wrote:

Arunima Singh wrote:

@ MG Singh. I never thought on these lines. However I would definitely agree that the attitude of soft and mild Hinduism has definitely done a lot of exploitation to the community and nation on a whole. This is for the first time I have heard something on this line regarding the laws and implementation, I can not fully comprehend and comment. But definitely it gives a different perspective worth considering

I truly believe that people hide behind religions. I don't really see a point in blaming them. It is we who behave the way we want to and hide behind so and so religion.

Sociologists have studied and opined that religion conditions a human being. That is the reason Muslims are so aggressive all over the world. Their religion advocates it. Catholics are also very rigid. Remember the days of inquisition in Europe. Hinduism is a mild and meek faith and for that reason Hinduism which at one time spread from central Asia to Indo China is confined to sub continent. Here also 40% converted to islam. Thus thinking of a man is conditioned by religion. No wonder we can't even hand murderers and rapists.

Well grown and brought up in a liberal atmosphere, I never turned out to be religious. I have a strong faith in Almighty ( I will call myself as more spiritual than religious). Am bringing up my kids the same way. My teenage daughter claims to be an atheist and I never force her to come for any religious rituals. She believes in soul and supreme power but no religion...she discards it as a man made division. I respect her view as she is a very fine human being...logical in her mind. She however has been always told by me and my husband that she has to not upset other's faith because of her belief.

But this sounds interesting and quite valid that your religion ( if you are brought up with strong feelings about it) does define your personality. 

Religions took birth to guide men towards the path of spirituality. If the teachings and beliefs are closely studied then almost all religions are the same. We somehow differentiated them and misguided ourselves by concentrating on the practices they advocated instead of teachings.

Don't you think so-called Mahatma Gandhi was one of the followers of this policy who created the theory that said, "If some one slaps you on your right cheek, offer him your left". Even during slavery that was not fine  but we are following the same after the freedom of our country. The Gandhi did a lot of harm to this country including teaching cowardice and not retaliating according to situation or having too soft corner in our heart for evaders or unwanted people that did not believe in our culture. 

suni51 wrote:

Don't you think so-called Mahatma Gandhi was one of the followers of this policy who created the theory that said, "If some one slaps you on your right cheek, offer him your left". Even during slavery that was not fine  but we are following the same after the freedom of our country. The Gandhi did a lot of harm to this country including teaching cowardice and not retaliating according to situation or having too soft corner in our heart for evaders or unwanted people that did not believe in our culture. 

Well he is kept at such a high pedestal in our society. We worship him as father of our nation. And in our country there is so much of blind worshiping, that we forget that he was a human and he could also err. No words are spoken or heard against him. However there are many things that he did wrong and we suffered. But nobody talks about it. His favoritism to Nehru was one. 

I totally agree with you on this line. We can not demean the efforts of other freedom fighters who were agressive

These are the two different paths I believe. Some people prefer non-violence and peace and others want a more practical approach and thus violence or aggressiveness doesn't seem wrong to them. I don't see a point in blaming each other for the kind of approach that is followed or practiced.