Science and Religion

Both Science and Religion ultimately depend on faith , one proven and the other often unproven. However, we have seen many scientifically proven facts often at a later date being proven incorrect for whatever reason , many a times an opposite belief taking precedence. So , I don't understand why  religious facts are always disputed even when there are records and proof.

The records and proof offered by religious scripts cannot be verified and accounted for. Science also involves some guess work or hypothesis sometimes but it is based on fundamental concepts and is often proved right afterwards. 

Read this article. One can know, there are several Hindu traditions which were proven scientifically.

http://desinema.com/hindu-traditions-scientific-reasons/

Abhishek Sharma wrote:

The records and proof offered by religious scripts cannot be verified and accounted for. Science also involves some guess work or hypothesis sometimes but it is based on fundamental concepts and is often proved right afterwards. 

Very true , I agree that science is based on fundamentals and proof . However, just for argument sake , many religious beliefs evolved with reason and were time tested by people who followed them. Here I am not taking into account the superstitious and blind beliefs .

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What is Science? This is defined.as systematized  knowledge.  Science depends on observation and experiment.  It is possible that what is considered correct today may be changed tomorrow on basis of fresh observation. But Science is same throughout the world. This does not divide us as religion does. Truth is same and hence Science is same everywhere. But religion depends on blind faith and so has different faces like Hindu, Islam, Sikh etc fighting each other. 

Science is not the same every where. Today there are many scientific aspects which are yet to be proven

It becomes a scientific aspect only after it has been proved ...can rambabu give some examples of those scientific aspects that are yet to be proved

usha manohar wrote:

Abhishek Sharma wrote:

The records and proof offered by religious scripts cannot be verified and accounted for. Science also involves some guess work or hypothesis sometimes but it is based on fundamental concepts and is often proved right afterwards. 

Very true , I agree that science is based on fundamentals and proof . However, just for argument sake , many religious beliefs evolved with reason and were time tested by people who followed them. Here I am not taking into account the superstitious and blind beliefs .

Now that likes don't get points responses are being thanked left right and center ..

I agree! Many beliefs and rituals have evolved for a reason, and those reasons were normally substantial and necessary considering the circumstances that they evolved in. Some of them now may fall short of relevance and practicality as world has changed tremendously, grown closer together and hence some customs need to be revisited and changed or discarded. But totally seperating science from religion is quite wrong. Pure science and technology, without the basis of religion proves harmful and destructive.

usha manohar wrote:

Abhishek Sharma wrote:

The records and proof offered by religious scripts cannot be verified and accounted for. Science also involves some guess work or hypothesis sometimes but it is based on fundamental concepts and is often proved right afterwards. 

Very true , I agree that science is based on fundamentals and proof . However, just for argument sake , many religious beliefs evolved with reason and were time tested by people who followed them. Here I am not taking into account the superstitious and blind beliefs .

Now that likes don't get points responses are being thanked left right and center ..

Yes there were some intelligent scholars with  religious backgrounds who made important discoveries in the field of science. 

As far as the 'thank you(s)' on every post are concerned, where there is a will, there's definitely a way. (To get points)

rambabu wrote:

Science is not the same every where. Today there are many scientific aspects which are yet to be proven

Science is continuous pursuit of knowledge through experimentation. The Scientists  may also disagree but attempt to come to an agreement by mutual discussion and further experimentation. However the fact remains that Science is universal and unlike religion, this is not different in various parts of world as religion is. This is because Science is true. On the other hand, religion is based more on superstitions, beliefs and traditions. That is why we have Hindu, Muslim, Christian etc.  Various religions continue fighting each other. There are acrimonious fights even among different sects of same religion. For example, the shaives (Shiva devotees) and vaishnav (Vishnu devotees) saints often enter in bloody battles.  The Sunni and shiya Muslim sects also have acrimonious relation..   

There is no meeting ground between Science and religion.  Here, let us also distinguish between religion and philosophy.  Many philosophical theories are rooted in religion. But a philosopher studies and tries to get knowledge about universe, God, nature through deep thoughts.  Philosophy can also be considered a Science- Science of soul. But a Philosophy student will not bind himself to any particular religion.  

What I'd read in some history books was that in the 16th and 17th century, the Church was against  scientific theories and progressive thoughts. They'd declare new theories to be heretical (against religious beliefs). Budding scientists were sent to the guillotine just because they dared to think. 

One such case was Galileo's. His heliocentric theory posed a threat to the belief of the common masses in a superior power. So, the Church placed him under house arrest until death. 

Being over-orthodox gets blood on your hands, literally as well as metaphorically speaking. 

Religion is a culture of faith; science is a culture of doubt.

Abhishek Sharma wrote:

usha manohar wrote:

Abhishek Sharma wrote:

The records and proof offered by religious scripts cannot be verified and accounted for. Science also involves some guess work or hypothesis sometimes but it is based on fundamental concepts and is often proved right afterwards. 

Very true , I agree that science is based on fundamentals and proof . However, just for argument sake , many religious beliefs evolved with reason and were time tested by people who followed them. Here I am not taking into account the superstitious and blind beliefs .

Now that likes don't get points responses are being thanked left right and center ..

Yes there were some intelligent scholars with  religious backgrounds who made important discoveries in the field of science. 

As far as the 'thank you(s)' on every post are concerned, where there is a will, there's definitely a way. (To get points)

One can always find a middle path between religion and science. I remember how Puttaparthy would be filled with all the top scientists , who were all followers of Sai Baba ..

Of course when one is brazen and shameless nothing seems to deter them from thanking , even after they have been warned by the moderator..

Rabish Kumar wrote:

Religion is a culture of faith; science is a culture of doubt.

But no one realizes when that faith becomes ignorance and the doubt becomes a way of life....

Science emerges from undrstanding of truth and religion emerges from ignorance and fear. Even top scientists can be fearful and seek refuge in religion.That does not make religion powerful or rational. It only shows how weak men are.

I feel it is more to do with insecurity than weakness that drives people towards religion. Thats how theories of destiny and fate have come into existence . Majority of the people feel the need to look up to someone else from whom they can draw strength and inspiration , if not religion would not have survived and thrived for so long 

usha manohar wrote:

I feel it is more to do with insecurity than weakness that drives people towards religion. Thats how theories of destiny and fate have come into existence . Majority of the people feel the need to look up to someone else from whom they can draw strength and inspiration , if not religion would not have survived and thrived for so long 

So eventually Lord is the Shepherd because we are the sheep. 

Abhishek Sharma wrote:

usha manohar wrote:

I feel it is more to do with insecurity than weakness that drives people towards religion. Thats how theories of destiny and fate have come into existence . Majority of the people feel the need to look up to someone else from whom they can draw strength and inspiration , if not religion would not have survived and thrived for so long 

So eventually Lord is the Shepherd because we are the sheep. 

Christians and The Bible  got it absolutely right ..

I hate it when people get too superstitious and when I ask them if there's any logic behind it, they say- " I don't know but there's got to be a scientific reason."

Not following anything is surely better than following such unfruitful practices.

One can never argue with a believer of any religion because of their blind belief that is unshakable. I came across this quote on religious beliefs " Religion is about turning untested beliefs into unshakable truth through the power of institutions and passage of time " ..