It is unbelievable that the EVMs could be so programmed as to register vote to a particular party instead of the actual candidate voted. If this is true, needless to say this is mockery of the entire democratic process and murder of electoral system. Also, insuch situation, there is no need to go to go to polling booth and be part of the big fraudulent drama.
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I am not blaming simply there is ample evidence of EVMs tampering across India in recent past which is available even in public domain only if you wish to see. In fact, Indian EVMs were already tempered by technical experts in the past. If this is can be done, isn't its biggest scam of independent India, only power voter has will be snatched from him. Even if there is a small iota of doubt about EVMs it has to be addressed, after all its about Democracy. Sorry to say EC is indulging only in hoodwinking the public, not answering questions that various people are raising. They simply issue a statement stating EVMs are tamper-proof.
It is in our own interest to know all sides of the issue. .
Dear Usha, would EC say their EVMs are hackable or tampered with, Of course, they will defend EVMs but never answer why EVMs tampered in recently concluded polls when EVMs were voting only to one party. No system is full-proof, anything which is done by man can also be undone, never think things won't be hacked or tampered, the largest financial institution like JP Morgan who built strongest firewalls possible, who spend millions of dollars on security was hacked recently. You are underestimating the power of political parties and politicians, they can go to any extent to win elections, If they can hijack ED, IT, CBI, RBI, Judiciary, Educational institutions, can't they hijack EC who're just few bunch of old people looking for post-retirements benefits and make a fool out of them. Do you know who has given a task of EVM maintenance and servicing job? I have all the data pertaining to loopholes of EC and EVMs. In fact, Indian EVMs were tampered by technical experts in the past, here is research paper: indiaevm.org/evm_tr2010-jul29.pdf
Partly true, but it's not fair as a concerned citizen and voter whichever party be it UPA/NDA are resorting to these malpractices we must protest, and save democracy or else we will be ruled by rogues and criminals. This time it's rampant which is threatening Democracy, within few months of elections we saw around 10 to 15 instances of EVM tampering cases, never in the history of voting such thing happened, they were isolated cases in the past, not so many rigging cases like it's happening today , and one more thing is large scale rigging is not possible but yes wherever current dispensation feels they're weak they're using tempered EVM. The main reason for this is massive defeats NDA saw in Bihar, Delhi and Demonetisation which had potential to finish NDA. They started this dirty game of rigging. They realized without rigging they will not win elections. So, from post-demonetisation, it started with Chandigarh local body elections, UP elections to recent Delhi MCD elections. One common factor in all these elections post-demonetisation is EC was using same tampered Gen 1 EVMs without VVPATs.
@ Venkat S N The link provided by you is for the year 2010 which clearly shows that UPA was the target of this mal practice. However , where is the proof for any claim made about EVM tampering that has been done recently. The 10-15 cases were the ones that have been detected which shows that the EC is keeping a sharp eye ..your single minded aim seems to be targeting NDA and it's success in the recent elections since I have hardly seen you taking an active part in any other discussion here ..
Even if it is possible to hack EVMs that does not mean it can not be used. Earlier the booths were captured or ballots were taken away and stamped and stuffed into boxes. But ballot paors were continued to be used. Today the EVMs are modern, foolproof and fast to process. They should be used and are to be used with paper trail. Those opposing it's usecare simply notcable to accept that they have Ben rejected by the voters. That is the truth. Accept it and improve your party image. No point in blaming EVMs and becoming the laughing butt.
Dear Usha, I said both UPA/NDA are equal culprits, they both are same, Divided by ideology but United in corruption. Make no mistake both loot us alike, both are equally corrupt. If you allege me of targeting NDA, I can also allege you that your single-minded aim seems to support NDA even if they indulge in gross malpractices. Let us not go there and let us stick to EVM issue. My POV is we need fair elections, it's about democracy, it's about voters rights. Please contemplate, Is supporting particular party larger than Nations interest for you. Let us not make this issue of one party versus the other, it's about voters versus corrupt political system, who can go to any extent to grab power. FYI those 10 to 15 instances which happened post-demonetisation were not exposed by EC, it was exposed by people, activists, and the media. Before giving green signal to EC, please know the blunders committed by EC in recent past, they are:
1. Why did EC give Servicing and maintenance job to BJP's Sumitra Mahajan son owned firm? This is a huge conflict of interest. A nonpartisan individual or group should be given this task, not to one who he is from a political party. In the name of maintenance how difficult for them to tamper EVMs, I am a technical guy, all it takes is 3 to 5 mins, all they need to do is either change motherboard or display which has their programming favouring their party.
2. Why is EC still using Gen 1 EVMs when they have already bought thousands of Gen 3 EVMs.
3. Why is EC still using Gen 1 EVMs without VVPAT, even when SC has made VVPAT mandatory
4. Why is EC used same Gen 1 EVMs which were used in UP elections all over India, as per rule of law at least 2 months gap should be their same EVMs should not be used, but EC is violating this law and using same rigged EVMs to benefit one party.
5. If EC thinks EVMs are tamper-proof then why is EC backing out EVM hackathon, why they're not inviting people who wish to hack or tamper EVMs, they fear they will be exposed.
So, in short what I want to state is Gen 1 EVMs are definitely rigged and let us not fool around, like I said before I've all the loopholes of EC and EVMs.
@Venkat Kindly consider these points-
1. EVMs are not computer-like machines and are NOT part of a network. These are standalone counting machines so hacking is not the word to be used for them. The EC will be announcing the date for the "challenge", only that it won't be called hackathon.
2. A supposedly "technical" guy from the AAP wasted the precious time of the Delhi Legislative Assembly when he got an EVM lookalike and fed in some codes to show it can be tampered with. What he used was an electronic toy with which he and his friends can play "election election" in their free time. No one can get hold of the authentic EVMs used in the voting process. Make no mistake, every video on youtube out there, claiming to be "EVM hacking video", is fake.
3. Regarding the point made about the motherboard, FYI the EC conducts a mock poll before every elections where representatives or agents of the candidates are present. They cast their vote, verify the result in front of the officer and sign on the seals.
4. Later the machines are taken to the strong room which is under surveillance 24x7 and guarded by officers as well as the representatives of the candidates.
5. No one can tamper the EVMs while voting as it requires the technical know how as well as a considerable amount of time. Most importantly, the data on the microchip in the EVM is non- rewriteable.
6. If EVMs can be tampered, then it means BJP let Congress win in Punjab.
7. Suppose they miraculously find a way to tamper it. There are more than hundreds of polling booths in a city. It would require hundreds even thousands of people to be involved in the plan in order to affect the electoral process. One or two people won't be able to force a result. With so many people involved, it is impossible for the whole thing to remain a secret. After all this is India.
8. All the allegations are based on one principle- Any electronic device can be tampered with. Now, VVPATs use printers, which is also an electronic device. So that means even VVPATs are not fool-proof. What are we left with? The slow and tedious system of Paper Ballots!
Venkat S N wrote:Let's hope so, they must dump rigged Gen 1 EVMs and use Gen 3 EVMs which they have recently procured and attaching it to VVPAT.
Is there any guarantee that Gen 3 EVMs are absolutely fool-proof or if they can rig Gen 1 what stops them from rigging the latest version? If you think VVPAT or VPR is perfect then better go for old paper version and make things more complicated.
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