NDA government cleared seventh pay commission recomendation and it will effective from July for central government employs and in coming moths state government also applied it. It is views of some person that it will increase money inflation and on other site some one urged that it will support to economy of country. What is you views?
With the increasing levels of inflation , the pay hike has to be done from time to time and it was being done. In fact from what I remember they did have a hike 2 years back which increased the pay-scale quite a bit and this new one is a very welcome move to all government employees, especially the pensioners !
usha manohar wrote:With the increasing levels of inflation , the pay hike has to be done from time to time and it was being done. In fact from what I remember they did have a hike 2 years back which increased the pay-scale quite a bit and this new one is a very welcome move to all government employees, especially the pensioners !
It is good that their pay levels have increased and the pensioners have also benefitted, but I hope that the increased levels of salaries motivate the government workers to work more productively and honestly and lessen the corruption!
47 lakh Central Government employees and 58 lakh pensioners are going to be benefited by the Seventh Pay Commission. But Economists say that The Seventh Pay Commission is going to add burden of 1.02 lakh Crores on India's economy at a time when the Government is struggling to cut its Fiscal deficit. In such a scenario, how Arun Jaitley is going to tackle this situation has to be seen.
Kalyani Nandurkar wrote:usha manohar wrote:With the increasing levels of inflation , the pay hike has to be done from time to time and it was being done. In fact from what I remember they did have a hike 2 years back which increased the pay-scale quite a bit and this new one is a very welcome move to all government employees, especially the pensioners !
It is good that their pay levels have increased and the pensioners have also benefitted, but I hope that the increased levels of salaries motivate the government workers to work more productively and honestly and lessen the corruption!
Yes Kalayani, the pensioners are happy including my mother and aunt , both retired teachers who will benefit from this increased pay scale. However, the majority of government employees are unhappy because they feel it is not enough to keep in line with the inflation and are planning t go n strike !!!
There is no real increase in employees's salary. The benefit is in fact only to top level bureaucrats. It is reported that the fitment benefit of 2.57 is given to all while fixing pay. It needs be understood that the increase is only in Basic pay/ pension fixed on 1.1.2006. The dearness allowance and grade pay have been merged with new basic pay. At the lowest level, in fact there is decrease in carry home pay. Basic pay increased. Dearness allowance eliminated. grade pay eliminated. Deduction for pension etc. increased. Result- reduction in carry home pay. Thus all publicity about so called hike is meaningless. Employees are not getting more to the extent that market could be affected/.
The Government employees are threatening to go on strike. The major issue is Minimum wage. The employees are demanding Rs.26000. Confederation of Central Government employees met a Group of Ministers, Arun Jaitley, Rajnath Singh and Suresh Prabhu. They assured the CCGE that they would consider the Employees demand.
In this scenario can the Country afford to have a Strike? It has to be seen how the group of Ministers will solve this problem.
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani wrote:There is no real increase in employees's salary. The benefit is in fact only to top level bureaucrats. It is reported that the fitment benefit of 2.57 is given to all while fixing pay. It needs be understood that the increase is only in Basic pay/ pension fixed on 1.1.2006. The dearness allowance and grade pay have been merged with new basic pay. At the lowest level, in fact there is decrease in carry home pay. Basic pay increased. Dearness allowance eliminated. grade pay eliminated. Deduction for pension etc. increased. Result- reduction in carry home pay. Thus all publicity about so called hike is meaningless. Employees are not getting more to the extent that market could be affected/.
I am not sure it is as bleak as you make it out to be ..Overall employees will be better off with 14% hike after deductions.. The armed forces gain the most with a 50% DA rise !
rambabu wrote:47 lakh Central Government employees and 58 lakh pensioners are going to be benefited by the Seventh Pay Commission. But Economists say that The Seventh Pay Commission is going to add burden of 1.02 lakh Crores on India's economy at a time when the Government is struggling to cut its Fiscal deficit. In such a scenario, how Arun Jaitley is going to tackle this situation has to be seen.
Jaitley said on this point that I am feeling that it is not a problem, because all money come back in market by way of expenses and saving.
usha manohar wrote:Kalyani Nandurkar wrote:usha manohar wrote:With the increasing levels of inflation , the pay hike has to be done from time to time and it was being done. In fact from what I remember they did have a hike 2 years back which increased the pay-scale quite a bit and this new one is a very welcome move to all government employees, especially the pensioners !
It is good that their pay levels have increased and the pensioners have also benefitted, but I hope that the increased levels of salaries motivate the government workers to work more productively and honestly and lessen the corruption!
Yes Kalayani, the pensioners are happy including my mother and aunt , both retired teachers who will benefit from this increased pay scale. However, the majority of government employees are unhappy because they feel it is not enough to keep in line with the inflation and are planning t go n strike !!!
http://www.ndtv.com/india-news/33-lakh-government-employees-threaten-to-go-on-strike-7th-pay-commission-1427336
Complaint of employees are not fair. Indeed central government and all state government adjust D.A after six months. It is based whole sale price index. In January 2016 central and state government increase DA 6%.
anil wrote:rambabu wrote:Arun Jaitley was confident from the very beginning.Seventh Pay Cimmission will lot of smiles on the faces of the employees and the pensioners.
I am one from them. Although state government will take more time to apply recommendation of 7th pay commisson.
Congratulations Anil. State Governments may take time to implement the recommendations of Pay Commission. But, ultimately soon you are going to reap the fruits.
Let me elaborate my point that there is not much gain from pay commission. The fitment formula is 2.58 times the pay/pension fixed on 1.1.2006. Even without seventh pay commission report, the employees are getting 2.25 times the pay/pension fixed on 1.1.2006. This is because the rate of dearness allowance on 1.1.2106 is 125%. With the seventh pay commission pay scale/ pension, there will be no D.A. on 1.1.2006 as the entire D.A. stands merged. So the benefit is meager 0.33 times.
But the employees may benefit other way. As the basic pay is more, other allowances will increase. The amount of increment will also increase. The Pay commission has suggested a formula for parity between old and new pensioners similar to one rank one pay army but this is being considered infeasible. A committee has been appointed to give feasibility report. It is not understandable how some thing is feasible for army and infeasible for civilians.
Those enrolled from 2004 have another issue. They are not entitled to pension as old employees are. For them there is new pension scheme which is really like mutual fund investment and the pension is not related to last pay as in case of old pension scheme. There is strong demand for scrapping the new pension scheme and introducing the old pension scheme. It may also be pointed out that the armed forces and para military forces are still entitled to old pension and the new pension scheme is not introduced for them.
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani wrote:Let me elaborate my point that there is not much gain from pay commission. The fitment formula is 2.58 times the pay/pension fixed on 1.1.2006. Even without seventh pay commission report, the employees are getting 2.25 times the pay/pension fixed on 1.1.2006. This is because the rate of dearness allowance on 1.1.2106 is 125%. With the seventh pay commission pay scale/ pension, there will be no D.A. on 1.1.2006 as the entire D.A. stands merged. So the benefit is meager 0.33 times.
But the employees may benefit other way. As the basic pay is more, other allowances will increase. The amount of increment will also increase. The Pay commission has suggested a formula for parity between old and new pensioners similar to one rank one pay army but this is being considered infeasible. A committee has been appointed to give feasibility report. It is not understandable how some thing is feasible for army and infeasible for civilians.
Those enrolled from 2004 have another issue. They are not entitled to pension as old employees are. For them there is new pension scheme which is really like mutual fund investment and the pension is not related to last pay as in case of old pension scheme. There is strong demand for scrapping the new pension scheme and introducing the old pension scheme. It may also be pointed out that the armed forces and para military forces are still entitled to old pension and the new pension scheme is not introduced for them.
Thanks Gulshan Ji, Plz tell me if one at present basic salary of
employee is Rs 20000 and DA 125% total 45000. After seventh pay commission what will be basic salary of employee, 45000?
@anil - Plz tell me if one at present basic salary of
employee is Rs 20000 and DA 125% total 45000. After seventh pay commission what will be basic salary of employee, 45000?
You can get all the information here in this link article ..
http://www.staffnews.in/2016/04/7th-pay-commission-get-minimum-wage-of.html
usha manohar wrote:@anil - Plz tell me if one at present basic salary of
employee is Rs 20000 and DA 125% total 45000. After seventh pay commission what will be basic salary of employee, 45000?
You can get all the information here in this link article ..
http://www.staffnews.in/2016/04/7th-pay-commission-get-minimum-wage-of.html
Please see the pay band and grade pay in existing six pay commission scale. also how many increments he has earned. Then find the pay in the pay matrix at appropriate column introduced by pay commission.
http://7thpaycommissionnews.in/7th-pay-commission-standard-pay-scale-pay-matrix-with-distinct-pay-levels/
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani wrote:usha manohar wrote:@anil - Plz tell me if one at present basic salary of
employee is Rs 20000 and DA 125% total 45000. After seventh pay commission what will be basic salary of employee, 45000?
You can get all the information here in this link article ..
http://www.staffnews.in/2016/04/7th-pay-commission-get-minimum-wage-of.html
Please see the pay band and grade pay in existing six pay commission scale. also how many increments he has earned. Then find the pay in the pay matrix at appropriate column introduced by pay commission.
http://7thpaycommissionnews.in/7th-pay-commission-standard-pay-scale-pay-matrix-with-distinct-pay-levels/
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