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No doubt Indian law give enough rights but still they are not aware with it. Education is a reason behind it. But time is changing. Education is spreading among women. They are some what aware about their rights. I reading is news paper that some girls right to admni. to stop their marriage because they are child and wants to study.

Though there are several laws to ensure a woman's protection in India many women are not able to utilise these  measures either due to lack awareness or due to inadequate awareness increasing programmes to educate the woman so that she can live peacefully in a male dominant Society.Though, Educating the woman has solved some problems, woman education has to go a long way to see an emancipated Woman.

There is no point in having rights on paper because we all know that India is still a very male dominated society and women need to ask Permission of the men in their lives to do anything. Until there is total equality of sexes with equal right to property and a change in the attitude and mindset of the Indian men , things will remain mostly on paper. I have seen how even our judges are biased when it comes to a male - female issue like domestic violence/divorce or even rape.Unless media steps in nothing much happens.

Rights of women in India? I could die laughing on a bed of nails. If they had any rights nobody would have done what happened in Bangalore , when a man forcibly carried away a woman for his pleasure right from the busy street and nobody came to her rescue. This video was shown all over India. I have never seen it even in NEW York and in particular Harlem, crime centre of the world.

rambabu wrote:

Though there are several laws to ensure a woman's protection in India many women are not able to utilise these  measures either due to lack awareness or due to inadequate awareness increasing programmes to educate the woman so that she can live peacefully in a male dominant Society.Though, Educating the woman has solved some problems, woman education has to go a long way to see an emancipated Woman.

Laws have a meaning only if there is a social change.That social change has not happened in Indian society, both Hindu and Muslim. Hindus have many women goddesses, but the state of the women is terrible. Look at Islam and triple talaq, many good samaritans support this law even on Boddunan when they argue that Mulsim personal law should not be touched. So this thread itself is meaningless, as the man proposing this thread has gone on record and said that Muslim personal law should not be touched. 

Unless a social change happens with a complete change in the mindset and attitude of the society , mere degrees and education does  very little to change the status of women in India. In fact the more educated males have no hesitation in asking for larger dowries because they feel they are entitled to it. Unless women dont bother too much about marriage as an absolute necessity to be entered into even at the cost of buying grooms,very little can change.

usha manohar wrote:

Unless a social change happens with a complete change in the mindset and attitude of the society , mere degrees and education does  very little to change the status of women in India. In fact the more educated males have no hesitation in asking for larger dowries because they feel they are entitled to it. Unless women dont bother too much about marriage as an absolute necessity to be entered into even at the cost of buying grooms,very little can change.

 I completely agree with you. We must have social change and not only for Hindu women but also for Muslim women and obnoxious facets of personal law like Triple talq abolished. .

    

Educated men are the most selfish in matters of dowry taking. They try to encash their education degrees. I had a class mate in my post graduate engineering class who was not at all serious about his studies. When asked the reason he would laugh and say his father has forced him to study as being a Reddy from AP as an MTech he can get a much bigger dowry. 

Of Course, that factor of being selfish inDowry taking is prevalent in all communities of AP. That's an evil. The fault lies with Dowry givers too. Offering Dowry is nothing short of Buying the Grooms. This Dowry  may be in different forms. Offering a  few Shares in the in laws illegal Business to sending a good for nothing commodity known as Son in Law to a foreign country where only such unworthy people are given seat for a price.

i don't know why the girls parents don't understand that dowry actually means selling their own daughter, and when they will come to know the actually meaning of dowry then that day India will move on the path of development in correct sense.  

usha manohar wrote:

Unless a social change happens with a complete change in the mindset and attitude of the society , mere degrees and education does  very little to change the status of women in India. In fact the more educated males have no hesitation in asking for larger dowries because they feel they are entitled to it. Unless women dont bother too much about marriage as an absolute necessity to be entered into even at the cost of buying grooms,very little can change.

Absolutely, men do not hesitate to demand dowry and see, those women who get married to such men wilfully, is really a pathetic state. The ladies enjoy luxury such as expensive car and all with their respective husbands at the cost of the biological family's expense. I pity these ladies and have no words to describe the so called educated men who take dowry. 

 

MG Singh wrote:
usha manohar wrote:

Unless a social change happens with a complete change in the mindset and attitude of the society , mere degrees and education does  very little to change the status of women in India. In fact the more educated males have no hesitation in asking for larger dowries because they feel they are entitled to it. Unless women dont bother too much about marriage as an absolute necessity to be entered into even at the cost of buying grooms,very little can change.

 I completely agree with you. We must have social change and not only for Hindu women but also for Muslim women and obnoxious facets of personal law like Triple talq abolished.

If society changed, I think no need of law.

    

 

Shampa Sadhya wrote:
usha manohar wrote:

Unless a social change happens with a complete change in the mindset and attitude of the society , mere degrees and education does  very little to change the status of women in India. In fact the more educated males have no hesitation in asking for larger dowries because they feel they are entitled to it. Unless women dont bother too much about marriage as an absolute necessity to be entered into even at the cost of buying grooms,very little can change.

Absolutely, men do not hesitate to demand dowry and see, those women who get married to such men wilfully, is really a pathetic state. The ladies enjoy luxury such as expensive car and all with their respective husbands at the cost of the biological family's expense. I pity these ladies and have no words to describe the so called educated men who take dowry. 

 

Recently there was a cricket player who was proudly displaying the Audi car or some other car given to him by his would be father in law. Giving a gift is of course personal choice the father in law may be a very rich person and may want to share part of his wealth with his daughter.But making a show of it and advertising it only sends the wrong signals and the fellow came in for a lot of negative criticism n twitter and elsewhere ..

usha manohar wrote:
Shampa Sadhya wrote:
usha manohar wrote:

Unless a social change happens with a complete change in the mindset and attitude of the society , mere degrees and education does  very little to change the status of women in India. In fact the more educated males have no hesitation in asking for larger dowries because they feel they are entitled to it. Unless women dont bother too much about marriage as an absolute necessity to be entered into even at the cost of buying grooms,very little can change.

Absolutely, men do not hesitate to demand dowry and see, those women who get married to such men wilfully, is really a pathetic state. The ladies enjoy luxury such as expensive car and all with their respective husbands at the cost of the biological family's expense. I pity these ladies and have no words to describe the so called educated men who take dowry. 

 

Recently there was a cricket player who was proudly displaying the Audi car or some other car given to him by his would be father in law. Giving a gift is of course personal choice the father in law may be a very rich person and may want to share part of his wealth with his daughter.But making a show of it and advertising it only sends the wrong signals and the fellow came in for a lot of negative criticism n twitter and elsewhere ..

If father wants to share his wealth with his daughter, what is wrong in it. On one hand we are talking equal right for female. on other hand we are saying that it is wrong to give gifts in marriage to daughter. If son have right of wealth of his father why daughter have not?

 

anil wrote:
usha manohar wrote:
Shampa Sadhya wrote:
usha manohar wrote:

Unless a social change happens with a complete change in the mindset and attitude of the society , mere degrees and education does  very little to change the status of women in India. In fact the more educated males have no hesitation in asking for larger dowries because they feel they are entitled to it. Unless women dont bother too much about marriage as an absolute necessity to be entered into even at the cost of buying grooms,very little can change.

Absolutely, men do not hesitate to demand dowry and see, those women who get married to such men wilfully, is really a pathetic state. The ladies enjoy luxury such as expensive car and all with their respective husbands at the cost of the biological family's expense. I pity these ladies and have no words to describe the so called educated men who take dowry. 

 

Recently there was a cricket player who was proudly displaying the Audi car or some other car given to him by his would be father in law. Giving a gift is of course personal choice the father in law may be a very rich person and may want to share part of his wealth with his daughter.But making a show of it and advertising it only sends the wrong signals and the fellow came in for a lot of negative criticism n twitter and elsewhere ..

If father wants to share his wealth with his daughter, what is wrong in it. On one hand we are talking equal right for female. on other hand we are saying that it is wrong to give gifts in marriage to daughter. If son have right of wealth of his father why daughter have not?

 

Anil, before jumping in to respond, please read the last part of my response...it is not about rights but the impression created in a country where dowry giving and taking is a crime..

usha manohar wrote:
anil wrote:
usha manohar wrote:
Shampa Sadhya wrote:
usha manohar wrote:

Unless a social change happens with a complete change in the mindset and attitude of the society , mere degrees and education does  very little to change the status of women in India. In fact the more educated males have no hesitation in asking for larger dowries because they feel they are entitled to it. Unless women dont bother too much about marriage as an absolute necessity to be entered into even at the cost of buying grooms,very little can change.

Absolutely, men do not hesitate to demand dowry and see, those women who get married to such men wilfully, is really a pathetic state. The ladies enjoy luxury such as expensive car and all with their respective husbands at the cost of the biological family's expense. I pity these ladies and have no words to describe the so called educated men who take dowry. 

 

Recently there was a cricket player who was proudly displaying the Audi car or some other car given to him by his would be father in law. Giving a gift is of course personal choice the father in law may be a very rich person and may want to share part of his wealth with his daughter.But making a show of it and advertising it only sends the wrong signals and the fellow came in for a lot of negative criticism n twitter and elsewhere ..

If father wants to share his wealth with his daughter, what is wrong in it. On one hand we are talking equal right for female. on other hand we are saying that it is wrong to give gifts in marriage to daughter. If son have right of wealth of his father why daughter have not?

 

Anil, before jumping in to respond, please read the last part of my response...it is not about rights but the impression created in a country where dowry giving and taking is a crime..

Yes I read it, can you separate dowry and gift.

 

anil wrote:
usha manohar wrote:
anil wrote:
usha manohar wrote:
Shampa Sadhya wrote:
usha manohar wrote:

Unless a social change happens with a complete change in the mindset and attitude of the society , mere degrees and education does  very little to change the status of women in India. In fact the more educated males have no hesitation in asking for larger dowries because they feel they are entitled to it. Unless women dont bother too much about marriage as an absolute necessity to be entered into even at the cost of buying grooms,very little can change.

Absolutely, men do not hesitate to demand dowry and see, those women who get married to such men wilfully, is really a pathetic state. The ladies enjoy luxury such as expensive car and all with their respective husbands at the cost of the biological family's expense. I pity these ladies and have no words to describe the so called educated men who take dowry. 

 

Recently there was a cricket player who was proudly displaying the Audi car or some other car given to him by his would be father in law. Giving a gift is of course personal choice the father in law may be a very rich person and may want to share part of his wealth with his daughter.But making a show of it and advertising it only sends the wrong signals and the fellow came in for a lot of negative criticism n twitter and elsewhere ..

If father wants to share his wealth with his daughter, what is wrong in it. On one hand we are talking equal right for female. on other hand we are saying that it is wrong to give gifts in marriage to daughter. If son have right of wealth of his father why daughter have not?

 

Anil, before jumping in to respond, please read the last part of my response...it is not about rights but the impression created in a country where dowry giving and taking is a crime..

Yes I read it, can you separate dowry and gift.

 

Well if you have understood good or else leave it...

usha manohar wrote:
anil wrote:
usha manohar wrote:
anil wrote:
usha manohar wrote:
Shampa Sadhya wrote:
usha manohar wrote:

Unless a social change happens with a complete change in the mindset and attitude of the society , mere degrees and education does  very little to change the status of women in India. In fact the more educated males have no hesitation in asking for larger dowries because they feel they are entitled to it. Unless women dont bother too much about marriage as an absolute necessity to be entered into even at the cost of buying grooms,very little can change.

Absolutely, men do not hesitate to demand dowry and see, those women who get married to such men wilfully, is really a pathetic state. The ladies enjoy luxury such as expensive car and all with their respective husbands at the cost of the biological family's expense. I pity these ladies and have no words to describe the so called educated men who take dowry. 

 

Recently there was a cricket player who was proudly displaying the Audi car or some other car given to him by his would be father in law. Giving a gift is of course personal choice the father in law may be a very rich person and may want to share part of his wealth with his daughter.But making a show of it and advertising it only sends the wrong signals and the fellow came in for a lot of negative criticism n twitter and elsewhere ..

If father wants to share his wealth with his daughter, what is wrong in it. On one hand we are talking equal right for female. on other hand we are saying that it is wrong to give gifts in marriage to daughter. If son have right of wealth of his father why daughter have not?

 

Anil, before jumping in to respond, please read the last part of my response...it is not about rights but the impression created in a country where dowry giving and taking is a crime..

Yes I read it, can you separate dowry and gift.

 

Well if you have understood good or else leave it...

@usha manohar You are correct that the act of the cricketer is extremely condemnable. People believe in show which is so repulsive. Gifting is fine but it should not become a matter of exhibition and when people give importance to expensive articles then it seems like dowry. It must be criticised and these popular figures must learn to be within a limit. They must take responsibility in curbing social evils like dowry and so on. 

It is wrong to say that the cricketer was showing off his new car. Thw press took photos and splashed them. Why should you be always critical. Please spare the cricketer.  Congress bashing is enough.

Shampa Sadhya wrote:
usha manohar wrote:
anil wrote:
usha manohar wrote:
anil wrote:
usha manohar wrote:
Shampa Sadhya wrote:
usha manohar wrote:

Unless a social change happens with a complete change in the mindset and attitude of the society , mere degrees and education does  very little to change the status of women in India. In fact the more educated males have no hesitation in asking for larger dowries because they feel they are entitled to it. Unless women dont bother too much about marriage as an absolute necessity to be entered into even at the cost of buying grooms,very little can change.

Absolutely, men do not hesitate to demand dowry and see, those women who get married to such men wilfully, is really a pathetic state. The ladies enjoy luxury such as expensive car and all with their respective husbands at the cost of the biological family's expense. I pity these ladies and have no words to describe the so called educated men who take dowry. 

 

Recently there was a cricket player who was proudly displaying the Audi car or some other car given to him by his would be father in law. Giving a gift is of course personal choice the father in law may be a very rich person and may want to share part of his wealth with his daughter.But making a show of it and advertising it only sends the wrong signals and the fellow came in for a lot of negative criticism n twitter and elsewhere ..

If father wants to share his wealth with his daughter, what is wrong in it. On one hand we are talking equal right for female. on other hand we are saying that it is wrong to give gifts in marriage to daughter. If son have right of wealth of his father why daughter have not?

 

Anil, before jumping in to respond, please read the last part of my response...it is not about rights but the impression created in a country where dowry giving and taking is a crime..

Yes I read it, can you separate dowry and gift.

 

Well if you have understood good or else leave it...

@usha manohar You are correct that the act of the cricketer is extremely condemnable. People believe in show which is so repulsive. Gifting is fine but it should not become a matter of exhibition and when people give importance to expensive articles then it seems like dowry. It must be criticised and these popular figures must learn to be within a limit. They must take responsibility in curbing social evils like dowry and so on. 

@Shampa what you write is right one. Exhibition is not fair. It is saying that lest hand don't know what right hand give.

 

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