Visiting India Pakistan border is a unique experience. Both Indian and Pakistan border forces daily bring flags down. There are some other features given below:
https://in.news.yahoo.com/6-reasons-why-every-indian-070551180.html
Visiting India Pakistan border is a unique experience. Both Indian and Pakistan border forces daily bring flags down. There are some other features given below:
https://in.news.yahoo.com/6-reasons-why-every-indian-070551180.html
suni51 wrote:rambabu wrote:At least they look like friends for the sake of TV cameras.
No, they don't. They look so angry and fired-up which is the main attraction for visitors. Maybe to add more attraction they will add up a fist fight/ kick boxing in near future.
May be in future one can expect Boxing at the wagah border. If that' so, a gun battle too cannot be ruled out.
rambabu wrote:suni51 wrote:No, gun battle will spoil the show so it will be limited to dirty looks, mock kicks and bringing sense of national pride.
Ahaha.. I'm unable to control my laugh. Thank God for the sake of National pride they do not spit on each other
Just be there and see what I mean. If you see the Indian and Palistani people present at both sides waiting for hours shouting slogans at full volume will tell you what does it mean to them when those two soldiers (one from each side) stare and drill in a strange way just before the sunset at that Border.
suni51 wrote:rambabu wrote:suni51 wrote:No, gun battle will spoil the show so it will be limited to dirty looks, mock kicks and bringing sense of national pride.
Ahaha.. I'm unable to control my laugh. Thank God for the sake of National pride they do not spit on each other
Just be there and see what I mean. If you see the Indian and Palistani people present at both sides waiting for hours shouting slogans at full volume will tell you what does it mean to them when those two soldiers (one from each side) stare and drill in a strange way just before the sunset at that Border.
After hearing from you how I wish to be there and witness first handed.The thing is in my present position in which we are only two. My wife is not interested in such things. And I cannot go alone for the reasons known to you. That's why I'm content with TV show only.
suni51 wrote:rambabu wrote:Wagah Border experience is unique in one way. That is the only time both India and Pakistan look and behave as friends not Foes.
You will change your mind once you see k ts movie, which is just short of kicking each other in the face. I am unable to understandmany why can't they behave normally and bring a sense of friendliness in place of all the hatred they show for each other. Maybe they want to keep the tradition of difference on and on.
The tradition of differences are bound to remain unless and until the real feelings and actions change. Constant infilteration and terrorist activities from the other side can not bring about friendly feelings. Thats border and people feel the pulse there the most...India has been magnanimous but when has the other country reciprocated.
Lopamudra wrote:suni51 wrote:rambabu wrote:Wagah Border experience is unique in one way. That is the only time both India and Pakistan look and behave as friends not Foes.
You will change your mind once you see k ts movie, which is just short of kicking each other in the face. I am unable to understandmany why can't they behave normally and bring a sense of friendliness in place of all the hatred they show for each other. Maybe they want to keep the tradition of difference on and on.
The tradition of differences are bound to remain unless and until the real feelings and actions change. Constant infilteration and terrorist activities from the other side can not bring about friendly feelings. Thats border and people feel the pulse there the most...India has been magnanimous but when has the other country reciprocated.
One should bear it in mind that Wagah Border exercises are mere routine exercises. They don't have any relation with the reality. Irrespective of relations between the two countries, Wagah Border exercises will take place rather mechanically.
rambabu wrote:Lopamudra wrote:suni51 wrote:rambabu wrote:Wagah Border experience is unique in one way. That is the only time both India and Pakistan look and behave as friends not Foes.
You will change your mind once you see k ts movie, which is just short of kicking each other in the face. I am unable to understandmany why can't they behave normally and bring a sense of friendliness in place of all the hatred they show for each other. Maybe they want to keep the tradition of difference on and on.
The tradition of differences are bound to remain unless and until the real feelings and actions change. Constant infilteration and terrorist activities from the other side can not bring about friendly feelings. Thats border and people feel the pulse there the most...India has been magnanimous but when has the other country reciprocated.
One should bear it in mind that Wagah Border exercises are mere routine exercises. They don't have any relation with the reality. Irrespective of relations between the two countries, Wagah Border exercises will take place rather mechanically.
That is not true ! The relationship between the countries does have a lot of impact on the soldiers on both sides...Although the exercise might go on because it is part of the routine , apparently the exchange of sweets during Independence day every year was not done this year because of the tension that is present between the two countries...
I would like to began my comment with a movie's title- " War chhod naa yaar". Actually it is a wonderful movie and reveals a truth and that truth is something which everyone knows but cannot heartily accept. The truth is that no common citizen of India, Pakistan or Bangladesh wants war and every citizen wants peace. So, apart from the feeling of partiotism at the border near the Line of Control; the people near the border also get inflicted with the feeling of brotherhood. After all, the partition was never justified. Had it been partition did not occur then we would have been together and the pledge we used to say in the school revealing that we love our country then, we would refer to the Hindustan comprising Pakistan and Bangladesh. Even the issues of Kashmir or Delhi were never have been there but as the luck would have it, partition happened and those bifurcation has led to a partriotic feeling at the border but the feeling of brotherhood has vanished literally.
Lot many of us are uncomfortable with the Muslims in our country and what would have happened with nearly 25-30 crore Muslims addition in undivided India who are now in Pakistan and Bangladesh. I would not be surprised oif say after fifty or so years India will be headed for another religion based partition if present intolerance is an indication.
vijay wrote:Lot many of us are uncomfortable with the Muslims in our country and what would have happened with nearly 25-30 crore Muslims addition in undivided India who are now in Pakistan and Bangladesh. I would not be surprised oif say after fifty or so years India will be headed for another religion based partition if present intolerance is an indication.
Sorry to say but 50 sounds too optimistic to me. It is bound to happen within next 15 to 20 years from now. The way the things are happening and if the interview of Pakistani ambassador I watched last night on a news channel is any indication then it's high time we realize the reality.
suni51 wrote:vijay wrote:Lot many of us are uncomfortable with the Muslims in our country and what would have happened with nearly 25-30 crore Muslims addition in undivided India who are now in Pakistan and Bangladesh. I would not be surprised oif say after fifty or so years India will be headed for another religion based partition if present intolerance is an indication.
Sorry to say but 50 sounds too optimistic to me. It is bound to happen within next 15 to 20 years from now. The way the things are happening and if the interview of Pakistani ambassador I watched last night on a news channel is any indication then it's high time we realize the reality.
Well said. Things will not be the same all along. Wisdom lies in expecting the unexpected.
@gkajmani