BJP leader and governor Kalyan singh wants to amend the national anthem composed by Ravindra Nath Tagore. I wonder how some body can even think that he is competent to amend a poem by Ravindra Nath Tagore- a poet of international standing.
https://in.screen.yahoo.com/kalyan-singh-wants-write-national-100700325.html
https://in.news.yahoo.com/rss-pracharak-kalyan-singh-trying-divide-people-brinda-084400465.html?vp=1
Where is the room for controversy?We should not be evasive about our stand. It is Tagore's version or that of his critics - which commands greater credibility? No woolly thinking, no verbiage or circumlocution. Let us face the truth! Who were the critics? Did Dr. Radhakrishnan or Dr. B.R.Ambedkar or Pandit Nehru or Gandhiji ever entertain any such insane line of thinking? It is not any controversy but sheer propaganda that is the most nefarious part of a dark design which all we must be careful about !
Why should people be perturbed about a historical fact? Tagore DID compose it for the king and it was first sung at the Calcutta session of Indian National congress especially called to welcome King George and Queen Mary in 1911. At that time British rule looked for another 200 years, tagore changed his views later at the rising tide of nationalism. However I will add that no point in discussing now as now the anthem cannot be changed.
Let matters rest, but to deny history leads no where. I can quote some of top historians both Indian and world who support what I have written, but no point now in flogging a dead horse.
It is not right to say that Tagore wrote it for the King. It is a lie being purposely propagated by a particular school of thought. Where the freedom struggle leaders so dumb that they chose as our national anthem a song written for welcoming a foreign King. Wisdom has dawned only now. Even Tagore has denied tis charge during his lifetime but which top historians knew what he did better than him. Let the controversy be discussed threadbare and settled once for all.
@Vijay
You have very logically and impressively put it in the right perspective. Gulshanji has been another who has the magnanimity and wisdom of seeing facts in their true light and altering his original position.Ironically we don't have too many of such people to enlighten us. There would be always Priests of Darkness to mislead to be mislead to not even earn a place in the dust-bin of history. What appalls me is the sheer audacity of questioning Tagore's own viwes on this subject! Shame!
@Rambabu
Those who have barest or no knowledge about Tagore the man,his view of the world,his philosophy should think a thousand times before mouthing banalities and inanities! Tagore was too honorable a person to equivocate and prevaricate to wriggle out of a situation created and still being created by pseudos with perverted minds. Sane ones have enough to feel perturbed!
chinmoymukherjee wrote:@Rambabu
Those who have barest or no knowledge about Tagore the man,his view of the world,his philosophy should think a thousand times before mouthing banalities and inanities! Tagore was too honorable a person to equivocate and prevaricate to wriggle out of a situation created and still being created by pseudos with perverted minds. Sane ones have enough to feel perturbed!
Really Chinmoy. I was perturbed. Why this maligning campaigning on a "Nobel" soul who made us proud in the world.Who made our held high and fearless. I cannot forgive these pseudos. They are a bad dream to the Indian society.
rambabu wrote:suni51 wrote:No one has gone in to the history of our National anthem but let me say Kalyan is neither the first nor will be the last. The controversy started right from the time it was accepted as our National anthem otherwise what was the need for Gurudev became angry at the reactions coming from different sectors. BJP was nowhere in picture then
http://www.thehindu.com/features/friday-review/history-and-culture/100-years-since-jana-gana-mana-was-born/article2752111.ece
A very informative article dealing about the Controversy surrounding Jana Gana Mana...
Though the BJP was not anywhere in the picture controversies were there since it was introduced. This is why Gurudev was obliged to offer an explanation. Since then until today controversies are continuing. And the clarifications are also continuing. And this will continue.
I can give you more links which will put more light on the whole episode. But do not read it casually- go through the entire post and let me say the comments section is even more meaningful.
suni51 wrote:rambabu wrote:suni51 wrote:No one has gone in to the history of our National anthem but let me say Kalyan is neither the first nor will be the last. The controversy started right from the time it was accepted as our National anthem otherwise what was the need for Gurudev became angry at the reactions coming from different sectors. BJP was nowhere in picture then
http://www.thehindu.com/features/friday-review/history-and-culture/100-years-since-jana-gana-mana-was-born/article2752111.ece
A very informative article dealing about the Controversy surrounding Jana Gana Mana...
Though the BJP was not anywhere in the picture controversies were there since it was introduced. This is why Gurudev was obliged to offer an explanation. Since then until today controversies are continuing. And the clarifications are also continuing. And this will continue.
I can give you more links which will put more light on the whole episode. But do not read it casually- go through the entire post and let me say the comments section is even more meaningful.
http://www.quora.com/How-much-truth-is-there-in-the-argument-that-Jana-Gana-Mana-is-a-homage-to-British-emperor-and-not-written-as-the-national-anthem-of-India
Again thanks for this link. As you said, i read it seriously without a biased mind including comments.
There are comments both For and against the issue, which is but natural.
But, the most important, relevant and true comment which I liked most in the comments section is " These are trivial matters, lets concentrate on doing some real good for our country and its people."
@Rambabu
The issue is far from trivial as the honor of a venerable titan is involved. Clearly two strands of opinions emerge from our discussion so far.One is that Tagore's work of eulogy for a British monarch and second one Tagore's rebuttal of the same.Now the question is which one should we go with?If the first one is allowed to stand the logical and corollary is Tagore was an inveterate liar and those presided over its adoption were a bunch of nitwits who were cheated into doing it by Tagore. If this line of persists and be the dominant rational choice I am all for scrapping this disgraceful piece of national anthem and putting Tagore into Hall of Disgrace but his detractors have taken a ridiculous position by betraying their own lack of faith in conviction by suggesting that it is a fait accompli - nothing can be done about it Tagore must remain permanently disgraced! What a monstrous state of mind! I am in complete agreement with Vijay that the issue should be decided once for all and we all owe it to great man.
chinmoymukherjee wrote:@Rambabu
The issue is far from trivial as the honor of a venerable titan is involved. Clearly two strands of opinions emerge from our discussion so far.One is that Tagore's work of eulogy for a British monarch and second one Tagore's rebuttal of the same.Now the question is which one should we go with?If the first one is allowed to stand the logical and corollary is Tagore was an inveterate liar and those presided over its adoption were a bunch of nitwits who were cheated into doing it by Tagore. If this line of persists and be the dominant rational choice I am all for scrapping this disgraceful piece of national anthem and putting Tagore into Hall of Disgrace but his detractors have taken a ridiculous position by betraying their own lack of faith in conviction by suggesting that it is a fait accompli - nothing can be done about it Tagore must remain permanently disgraced! What a monstrous state of mind! I am in complete agreement with Vijay that the issue should be decided once for all and we all owe it to great man.
The issae is not trivial. In fact there is constant vicious propaganda by some miscreants in U Tube and elsewhere about Tagore and many other reknowned personalities. I am sorry that I also was misled by such propaganda and believed that the song was in praise of Brfitish emperor. .There is similar propaganda that Nehrus had Muslim origin. There is attempt to malign the freedom fighters. .
chinmoymukherjee wrote:@Rambabu
The issue is far from trivial as the honor of a venerable titan is involved. Clearly two strands of opinions emerge from our discussion so far.One is that Tagore's work of eulogy for a British monarch and second one Tagore's rebuttal of the same.Now the question is which one should we go with?If the first one is allowed to stand the logical and corollary is Tagore was an inveterate liar and those presided over its adoption were a bunch of nitwits who were cheated into doing it by Tagore. If this line of persists and be the dominant rational choice I am all for scrapping this disgraceful piece of national anthem and putting Tagore into Hall of Disgrace but his detractors have taken a ridiculous position by betraying their own lack of faith in conviction by suggesting that it is a fait accompli - nothing can be done about it Tagore must remain permanently disgraced! What a monstrous state of mind! I am in complete agreement with Vijay that the issue should be decided once for all and we all owe it to great man.
I'm of the firm opinion, we all owe it to Tagore. And the only way to repay our gratitude is giving place of preeminence in the folios of History.
Those organisations who did not take part in India's freedom struggle are either selectively borrowing certain leaders to build their lineage or are busy selectively spreading malicious propaganda against tall leaders like Nehru and Gandhi. People are wise enough to see thru these crude attempts.Maligning Tagore is an attempt in this direction. What is painful is to see otherwise educated Indians fall into these traps. Should pygmies of today evaluate tall leaders pf the past.
@Gulshanji
We are living in decadent times.Here lived a soul who was well ahead of his time by at least a few hundred years. And history will judge him for his seminal contribution to the growth of civilization as a whole. He was just not a literary genius but an extraordinary human being. His eldest brother an equally gifted person, but less known , once commented on his youngest brother that : Rabi is the only one of us who never veered from the narrow and straight path of life." This is Tagore for you. Suffering countless tragedies in his personal he developed a sagely persona.When he was sent as a Zamindar to Selaidaha he was deeply moved by the plight of poor peasant of both Hindu and Muslim communities. He was shocked at the gross exploitation by money lenders and encouraged them to resist them by opening a bank and deposited his Nobel prize money. He voiced his agony when the Hindu Zamindars in East Bengal forced their Muslim subjects to stand in meetings and sessions unlike their Hindu counterparts and he abolished it at the first available opportunity. His grim prediction that one day the insulted and exploited Muslim community would hit back came tragically true in the form of partition. His views on education,gender equality and nature are all revolutionary and poignantly relevant today. In his intellectual honesty he never compromised and not even spared the community he sprang from whenever the situation demanded. I have mentioned in the beginning that decadence has gripped the entire landscape not even sparing the institution for which he had to beg money to build- Shantiniketan has been reduced to a spectre of all that he fought against. Its spirit went with his death. I am writing all these because when we comment on great worthy personages we must educate ourselves a little about them. That is the irreducible minimum!
@gkajmani