capital punishment in India

You are talking of which country, as when there is such punishment in statute books then from time to time in grievous acts such punishments is there. 

I prefer reformatory measures instead of Death sentence.

mohan manohar wrote:

You are talking of which country, as when there is such punishment in statute books then from time to time in grievous acts such punishments is there. 

Thanks I am taling of India. We have executed only 3 persons iN last 15 years and more than 800 are on death row. The fact is many grievous cases of death sentence is not carried out 

rambabu wrote:

I prefer reformatory measures instead of Death sentence.

some patholokgijcal killers are beyond reformation

MG Singh wrote:

rambabu wrote:

I prefer reformatory measures instead of Death sentence.

some patholokgijcal killers are beyond reformation

 

While agreeing with you, I'd like to impress upon you as you said such cases are very few. Even if it's a pathological case,law enforcement authorities should ensure that such instances are beyond reforms. By hanging nothing could be achieved.

A death sentence is always a deterrent. Even psychologists have confirmed this. To talk that nothing is achieved by executing a criminal, then what is the option?. Let him live for ever at the expense of the public? These are deep questions. let me tell readers  that when i was in England  two months back, a debate has rekindled that the death penalty be reintroduced. The USA and Japan have not done away with death penalty. It is essential as a deterrent as a criminal or ra[ist will feel that come what may he will NEVER be hanged.

There are a plethora of options. In the prisons like Tihar, Kiran Bedi has shown the prisoners need not be a burden to exchequer. Instead, they were trained to make household utilities which in turn generate revenue . This stops the prisoners from being a burden to the exchequer. Additionally, the self reliance and the sense of achievement will become an example for others.

I agree, all these can be achieved only through an overhauling of The present Jail reforms. Finally a strict implementation of jail reforms.

I do agree with capital punishment but the only concern for me is that the culprit should be awarded painless death not hanging till death. 

I'm against capital punishment. Punishment should be aimed at reforming the person like what Kiran Bdi did in Tihar jail.

There is another thread on same issur- Death punishment by hanging'.  I sincerely belive that object of punishment is to reform rather than revenge as in olden days. Tooth for tootrh, eye of eye, death for death can not be motive of punishment.  So deaqth sentence must be in very rare cases. Even in extreme cases where the killer is a psychopath, he needs be reformed by psychological counseling rather than hanged till death. 

Shock is the biggest thing in death sentence, the culprits chose the path that does not have to be desperation. 

Instead of shock, see and watch the results of Reformation. They are unbelievable.

Reformation does not work.What reformation does one expect for the rapists and killers of Nirbhaya? The fact is reformation is just a dream, otherwiue the USA and Japan and tens more nations would have not executed anybody. Incidentally Kiran Bedi herself justified death sentence ofkillers of Nirbhaya. One should be a realist. One has to strike when required. 

rambabu wrote:

I'm against capital punishment. Punishment should be aimed at reforming the person like what Kiran Bdi did in Tihar jail.

 

But I am not as their are some heinous crimes for which there is no scope for the culprits and I don't think they should be given another chance as one can't expect them that they won't do the same crime again.

Nothing can be expected. Is there any guarantee that the criminal commit such crimes again and again?

two threads on the same subject you could have merged them into one since we are discussing the same thing in both the threads ..

usha manohar wrote:

two threads on the same subject you could have merged them into one since we are discussing the same thing in both the threads ..

 

I too noticed it. One single thread would have been better. Owing to this comments of the members would be similar in both the threads.

rambabu wrote:

usha manohar wrote:

two threads on the same subject you could have merged them into one since we are discussing the same thing in both the threads ..

 

I too noticed it. One single thread would have been better. Owing to this comments of the members would be similar in both the threads.

 Basically the answers got mixed up, but my aim was different. One was on the death sentce itself and its execution and the other concerned the inability of the Hindus to execute death sentence. Its a historical fallcy and meek and mild Hindu is true. Incidentally the purpose of death penality is to act as a deterrent and it has a salutary effect.

Opponents of capital punishments always opined that state does not have right to take away life of any person. These abolitionists forget to look beyond that state is not only acting for affected families of rarest of rare crimes but also working in favor of murdered person and murdered family. 

State has the responsibility of keeping the law and order and maintain peace in the country. Keeping this in view it has to act according to the changing times. Now most of the countries are in favor of abolishing the Capital punishment.