apparently, there is lot of diversification in views of BJP governments on beef and cow slaughter. The Maharashtra govt. has banned beef sale and cow slaughter. But the Goa government is taking the party slogan- sab ka saath sab ka haath- very literally. The Goa government wants cooperation and progress of Muslims aqnd Christians also and so is keen to provide beef to the minorities by import.
baby angel wrote:I feel that whether it is BJP, Maharashtra govt. or Goa govt. , they all are doing it for the political reasons behind it. There is always a political hand behind such decisions for filling up the vote bank.
Yes, I agree. Banning of cow slaughter will be of no use if done only in one state...definitely there are political reasons behind such a decision.
rambabu wrote:It seems our readers are mistaken and definitely they did not go through the link article. It was clearly mentioned the ban on Beef was done by FDA, food and drugs administration. No political parties are involved.
There are a number of links given above. The ban on cow slaughter is not only BJP agenda. The directive principles of Indian Constitution also require such ban. But this is state subject and so there cannot be same law everywhere. In Maharashtra, there was already a ban on slaughter of cows. Now the ban has been imposed also on slaughter of buffaloes. The religious angle can also not be denied. The Hindu organizations like VHP and Bajarang Dal favor such ban. But it is not feasible to impose such ban in states like Goa, Kerala, North East etc where majority is non Hindu.
There is another aspect. Man is most selfish animal on Earth. He will not let any animals- cow or buffalo or sparrows- live unless of benefit to human race. Now bullocks have been replaced by tractors. Cow dung manure has been replaced by fertilizers. Hindus also prefer buffalo milk to cow milk. The animals no more of use for muscle power or milk or other use can only be slaughtered for meat. It will also not be irrelevant to point out that even the cow worshiper Hindi/ Jain community indulge in manufacture and export of meat products including beef. One more point. The term Beef covers cow as well as buffalo.
Regarding economic aspects of such ban, see:
https://in.news.yahoo.com/spreading-beef-bans-hit-indian-farmers-traders-lions-071349742.html
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rambabu wrote:True, cow or buffalo meat eaters are there in some sects of Hinduism. Beef eating is not restricted to a few communities.
As a matter of fact, buffalo is sacrificed in many temples including one in Nepal, one in Gauhati and many other. Obviously, Hindus eat beef (buffalo meat) as prasadam. (residue of offering to deity).
Gulshanji has very nicely explained how animals are now not needed because of machines taking over their functions. So the religious protection now may look irrelevant. Animals are like properties which have to be profitable. If not they will get disposed off. Sounds harsh but that is the reality. and bans are not going to prevent but only establish new routes for their disposals. For diehard supporters it is a coincidence tat BJP ruled states are imposing such bans.
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani wrote:rambabu wrote:True, cow or buffalo meat eaters are there in some sects of Hinduism. Beef eating is not restricted to a few communities.
As a matter of fact, buffalo is sacrificed in many temples including one in Nepal, one in Gauhati and many other. Obviously, Hindus eat beef (buffalo meat) as prasadam. (residue of offering to deity).
Very true animal sacrifices are prevalent in many Hindu temples especially in rural areas.
Govt. of Maharashtra claims that beef ban is not a religious issue but economic one. when asked why only cows slaughter is banned, the govt. representative told the High Court that this is only beginning and ultimately even goat slaughter would be banned. We don't know how far this is true.
rambabu wrote:Yes. Any killing of any living organismis an offence. "Ahimso Paramo Dharmaha" so goes the adage.
Ahinsa Parmodharama is Jain teaching. I don't think that any state in India is going to ban slaughter of all animals. The govt. pleader in Maharashtra made the statement only to claim that ban on cow slaughter is not Hindu religious issue, which is in fact the case.
I am watching the TV debate on the subject and the BJP spokesperson is saying that the best scientific fertiliser are the urine and dung of a cow . Did we elect these crazy people to power for telling us sick jokes every time they open their mouth. Should a sick minority decide about what the majority should wear,eat, read etc.
vijay wrote:Gulshanji has very nicely explained how animals are now not needed because of machines taking over their functions. So the religious protection now may look irrelevant. Animals are like properties which have to be profitable. If not they will get disposed off. Sounds harsh but that is the reality. and bans are not going to prevent but only establish new routes for their disposals. For diehard supporters it is a coincidence tat BJP ruled states are imposing such bans.
In that case should we allow killing of people no more useful/earning for the family? If the majority oppose killing of cow on religious basis what is wrong if government wishes to fulfill their wishes. After all different governments have been doing the same i the name of minority rights for ages in this country which are not applicable even in Arabian countries. For instance marriage of minor girls, family planning rules, theft (punishment - cutting off hands) Rapes etc etc. If the BJP ruled states are banning the cow slaughter other states should take a lesson and do that with immediate effect. Sorry it sounds harsh but that is naked truth. In my district alone there are at least 40-50 thousand animals slaughtered every day including camels, buffalo, cows and the meat exported to Arab countries. PLEASE DO NOT OPEN THESE LINKS IF YOU HAVE A WEAK HEART
http://in.sudeshkumar.org/2011/05/ban-kamela-slaughterhouse-in-meerut.html
http://in.sudeshkumar.org/2011/05/ban-kamela-slaughterhouse-in-meerut.html
http://www.downtoearth.org.in/content/black-curse-kali-river
http://www.indiaenvironmentportal.org.in/category/285/thesaurus/slaughter-house/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZwiOgV1dGw
If cow slaughter is going to be approached from an religious angle then rational arguement cannot take place. Linking other social evils with it and bringing other country practices is causing confusion. The Hindu religion elevating the cow to a high status was perfectly alright in the times when cow fulfilled an economic purpose. The cow gave milk,.helped plough the field, its dung was a fuel, urine had medicinal value and after death its skin was used as leather. Truly the cow was revered as a mata and is referred today also as gowmata. However as its economic uses have been taken over by buffalo milk,tractors,coal and gas and plastics replacing leather, the cow has become almost totally replaceble. So its numbers are bound to go down. Also afterit stops being useful the owners find it economically tough to feed it and thus dispose it off just as in poultry farms hens are slaughtered once they stop laying eggs.The government can ban cow slaughter but how will it compensate the owner for the costs they will incurr after its economic life is over. That is a big issue. Owners are known to abandon them just as thousands of widows are abandoned and live in Mathura in dire circumstances. It is economics that decides many practices including religious. There are nonvegetarians in theworld including in India for whom eating animal meat is a food. Where theirvis demand there will be a supplier. Bans will only push the market underground at higher costs and corruption will flourish. Alcohol is banned in Gujarat since 1947 and is available at higher costs thru well established networks and corruption is too well known. So let us discuss rationally and not emotionally though it is your right to do so.
vijay wrote:If cow slaughter is going to be approached from an religious angle then rational arguement cannot take place. Linking other social evils with it and bringing other country practices is causing confusion. The Hindu religion elevating the cow to a high status was perfectly alright in the times when cow fulfilled an economic purpose. The cow gave milk,.helped plough the field, its dung was a fuel, urine had medicinal value and after death its skin was used as leather. Truly the cow was revered as a mata and is referred today also as gowmata. However as its economic uses have been taken over by buffalo milk,tractors,coal and gas and plastics replacing leather, the cow has become almost totally replaceble. So its numbers are bound to go down. Also afterit stops being useful the owners find it economically tough to feed it and thus dispose it off just as in poultry farms hens are slaughtered once they stop laying eggs.The government can ban cow slaughter but how will it compensate the owner for the costs they will incurr after its economic life is over. That is a big issue. Owners are known to abandon them just as thousands of widows are abandoned and live in Mathura in dire circumstances. It is economics that decides many practices including religious. There are nonvegetarians in theworld including in India for whom eating animal meat is a food. Where theirvis demand there will be a supplier. Bans will only push the market underground at higher costs and corruption will flourish. Alcohol is banned in Gujarat since 1947 and is available at higher costs thru well established networks and corruption is too well known. So let us discuss rationally and not emotionally though it is your right to do so.
India can sale them alive to other countries like Australia sells its live stock. Simple, after all Hindus object to slaughter and not to selling them. It's easy as that.
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