Indian Habits Die Hard

Came across this board..which I am sure we have seen and already know but choose to ignore.

The title is apt. I am telling a true story. An Indian in New York had a used tyre in his car dicky. In USA used tyres can not be thrown anywhere, they have to be deposited at designated places. The Indian went to the NY airport to receive a friend of his. He went into a very large paid parking zone and got space at a corner which had some bushes etc near to it. He took out thee used tyre and looked around and feeling safe threw the tyre into the bushes. After sometime when he was exiting the parking lot at the gate he got his parking bill which had an extra component of $60/-. When he protested he was told this was the fine for the tyre he threw out. The cameras had recorded it. He quietly paid and cursed the Americans because a new tyre cost only $25 at that time. Will he again litter but in India as there is no punishment we do it without caring for the environment etc.

Came across this board..which I am sure we have seen and already know but choose to ignore.

The title is apt. I am telling a true story. An Indian in New York had a used tyre in his car dicky. In USA used tyres can not be thrown anywhere, they have to be deposited at designated places. The Indian went to the NY airport to receive a friend of his. He went into a very large paid parking zone and got space at a corner which had some bushes etc near to it. He took out thee used tyre and looked around and feeling safe threw the tyre into the bushes. After sometime when he was exiting the parking lot at the gate he got his parking bill which had an extra component of $60/-. When he protested he was told this was the fine for the tyre he threw out. The cameras had recorded it. He quietly paid and cursed the Americans because a new tyre cost only $25 at that time. Will he again litter but in India as there is no punishment we do it without caring for the environment etc.

That right USA government is very strict about even a little crime. India is quit far away from USA.

Came across this board..which I am sure we have seen and already know but choose to ignore.

The title is apt. I am telling a true story. An Indian in New York had a used tyre in his car dicky. In USA used tyres can not be thrown anywhere, they have to be deposited at designated places. The Indian went to the NY airport to receive a friend of his. He went into a very large paid parking zone and got space at a corner which had some bushes etc near to it. He took out thee used tyre and looked around and feeling safe threw the tyre into the bushes. After sometime when he was exiting the parking lot at the gate he got his parking bill which had an extra component of $60/-. When he protested he was told this was the fine for the tyre he threw out. The cameras had recorded it. He quietly paid and cursed the Americans because a new tyre cost only $25 at that time. Will he again litter but in India as there is no punishment we do it without caring for the environment etc.

Ha.haa good that he was fined. But even paying a heavy fine won't be a deterrent to people who litter. Same goes with not wearing a helmet or putting on seat belts. People are okay with paying a fine of 100-500/- but they won't budge or wear helmet or put on seat belts.

Came across this board..which I am sure we have seen and already know but choose to ignore.

The title is apt. I am telling a true story. An Indian in New York had a used tyre in his car dicky. In USA used tyres can not be thrown anywhere, they have to be deposited at designated places. The Indian went to the NY airport to receive a friend of his. He went into a very large paid parking zone and got space at a corner which had some bushes etc near to it. He took out thee used tyre and looked around and feeling safe threw the tyre into the bushes. After sometime when he was exiting the parking lot at the gate he got his parking bill which had an extra component of $60/-. When he protested he was told this was the fine for the tyre he threw out. The cameras had recorded it. He quietly paid and cursed the Americans because a new tyre cost only $25 at that time. Will he again litter but in India as there is no punishment we do it without caring for the environment etc.

Ha.haa good that he was fined. But even paying a heavy fine won't be a deterrent to people who litter. Same goes with not wearing a helmet or putting on seat belts. People are okay with paying a fine of 100-500/- but they won't budge or wear helmet or put on seat belts.

There is a move to increase the fines to 1000 / 2000/ 5000 range. Perhaps that may help.

Came across this board..which I am sure we have seen and already know but choose to ignore.

The title is apt. I am telling a true story. An Indian in New York had a used tyre in his car dicky. In USA used tyres can not be thrown anywhere, they have to be deposited at designated places. The Indian went to the NY airport to receive a friend of his. He went into a very large paid parking zone and got space at a corner which had some bushes etc near to it. He took out thee used tyre and looked around and feeling safe threw the tyre into the bushes. After sometime when he was exiting the parking lot at the gate he got his parking bill which had an extra component of $60/-. When he protested he was told this was the fine for the tyre he threw out. The cameras had recorded it. He quietly paid and cursed the Americans because a new tyre cost only $25 at that time. Will he again litter but in India as there is no punishment we do it without caring for the environment etc.

Ha.haa good that he was fined. But even paying a heavy fine won't be a deterrent to people who litter. Same goes with not wearing a helmet or putting on seat belts. People are okay with paying a fine of 100-500/- but they won't budge or wear helmet or put on seat belts.

There is a move to increase the fines to 1000 / 2000/ 5000 range. Perhaps that may help.

If this is true..certainly this is a good thing. Also, pillion riders should be asked to wear a helmet..it is after all for our safety.

There is a saying. " A dog's tail as long as the pressure to make it straight remains, it looks straight. The moment the pressure is off, it goes back to its original shape. Now it's left to you to draw your own conclusions from this.

Came across this board..which I am sure we have seen and already know but choose to ignore.

The title is apt. I am telling a true story. An Indian in New York had a used tyre in his car dicky. In USA used tyres can not be thrown anywhere, they have to be deposited at designated places. The Indian went to the NY airport to receive a friend of his. He went into a very large paid parking zone and got space at a corner which had some bushes etc near to it. He took out thee used tyre and looked around and feeling safe threw the tyre into the bushes. After sometime when he was exiting the parking lot at the gate he got his parking bill which had an extra component of $60/-. When he protested he was told this was the fine for the tyre he threw out. The cameras had recorded it. He quietly paid and cursed the Americans because a new tyre cost only $25 at that time. Will he again litter but in India as there is no punishment we do it without caring for the environment etc.

Ha.haa good that he was fined. But even paying a heavy fine won't be a deterrent to people who litter. Same goes with not wearing a helmet or putting on seat belts. People are okay with paying a fine of 100-500/- but they won't budge or wear helmet or put on seat belts.

There is a move to increase the fines to 1000 / 2000/ 5000 range. Perhaps that may help.

If this is true..certainly this is a good thing. Also, pillion riders should be asked to wear a helmet..it is after all for our safety.

This kind of events never change until the attitude change. People are spitting in several places. They never mind about the fines and are ready to pay the amount.

Came across this board..which I am sure we have seen and already know but choose to ignore.

The title is apt. I am telling a true story. An Indian in New York had a used tyre in his car dicky. In USA used tyres can not be thrown anywhere, they have to be deposited at designated places. The Indian went to the NY airport to receive a friend of his. He went into a very large paid parking zone and got space at a corner which had some bushes etc near to it. He took out thee used tyre and looked around and feeling safe threw the tyre into the bushes. After sometime when he was exiting the parking lot at the gate he got his parking bill which had an extra component of $60/-. When he protested he was told this was the fine for the tyre he threw out. The cameras had recorded it. He quietly paid and cursed the Americans because a new tyre cost only $25 at that time. Will he again litter but in India as there is no punishment we do it without caring for the environment etc.

Ha.haa good that he was fined. But even paying a heavy fine won't be a deterrent to people who litter. Same goes with not wearing a helmet or putting on seat belts. People are okay with paying a fine of 100-500/- but they won't budge or wear helmet or put on seat belts.

There is a move to increase the fines to 1000 / 2000/ 5000 range. Perhaps that may help.

If this is true..certainly this is a good thing. Also, pillion riders should be asked to wear a helmet..it is after all for our safety.

This kind of events never change until the attitude change. People are spitting in several places. They never mind about the fines and are ready to pay the amount.

Very true.Fines will not change the human attitude. The change should come from within. Till then, Indian habits live.

Came across this board..which I am sure we have seen and already know but choose to ignore.

The title is apt. I am telling a true story. An Indian in New York had a used tyre in his car dicky. In USA used tyres can not be thrown anywhere, they have to be deposited at designated places. The Indian went to the NY airport to receive a friend of his. He went into a very large paid parking zone and got space at a corner which had some bushes etc near to it. He took out thee used tyre and looked around and feeling safe threw the tyre into the bushes. After sometime when he was exiting the parking lot at the gate he got his parking bill which had an extra component of $60/-. When he protested he was told this was the fine for the tyre he threw out. The cameras had recorded it. He quietly paid and cursed the Americans because a new tyre cost only $25 at that time. Will he again litter but in India as there is no punishment we do it without caring for the environment etc.

Ha.haa good that he was fined. But even paying a heavy fine won't be a deterrent to people who litter. Same goes with not wearing a helmet or putting on seat belts. People are okay with paying a fine of 100-500/- but they won't budge or wear helmet or put on seat belts.

There is a move to increase the fines to 1000 / 2000/ 5000 range. Perhaps that may help.

If this is true..certainly this is a good thing. Also, pillion riders should be asked to wear a helmet..it is after all for our safety.

This kind of events never change until the attitude change. People are spitting in several places. They never mind about the fines and are ready to pay the amount.

Very true.Fines will not change the human attitude. The change should come from within. Till then, Indian habits live.

We cannot change it until the attitude change. Instead of putting fine we can stop his entire month salary for one month. how he will pay the fine.

Penalty for such offences should be able to create a fear in the offender. Whether it is one month pay or otherwise is immaterial.

Agreed no amount of fine levied on people can stop them from littering..but it can surely make wear helmets and wear seat belts. Some corporate companies make it mandatory to wear helmet without a helmet admission into the office premises is prohibited. I have seen this rule pays off..and people do abide by such rules.

Agreed no amount of fine levied on people can stop them from littering..but it can surely make wear helmets and wear seat belts. Some corporate companies make it mandatory to wear helmet without a helmet admission into the office premises is prohibited. I have seen this rule pays off..and people do abide by such rules.

This gesture on the part of some corporate companies is commendable and worth emulating by other organizations,

Imposing heavy fines surely helps. If a helmet costs 2000 and fine is 100 people will pay it. But if fine is 1500 or 2000 every one will think twice about paying fine. Minimum fine for violating traffic riles should start from Rs 1000 and it should be collected strictly on the spot or paid into a bank account. Till such time the driving licence shall remain in custody of the police. Not only Indians but every where people follow law also because of heavy fines.

Imposing heavy fines surely helps. If a helmet costs 2000 and fine is 100 people will pay it. But if fine is 1500 or 2000 every one will think twice about paying fine. Minimum fine for violating traffic riles should start from Rs 1000 and it should be collected strictly on the spot or paid into a bank account. Till such time the driving licence shall remain in custody of the police. Not only Indians but every where people follow law also because of heavy fines.

This happened with one of my friends, who was driving on the wrong side of the road..his DL was taken into custody and was fined around 1000/-. Next time onwards he was careful. :)

Agreed no amount of fine levied on people can stop them from littering..but it can surely make wear helmets and wear seat belts. Some corporate companies make it mandatory to wear helmet without a helmet admission into the office premises is prohibited. I have seen this rule pays off..and people do abide by such rules.

This gesture on the part of some corporate companies is commendable and worth emulating by other organizations,

Yes, small changes like these if adapted by corporate companies can go a long way to change people.

Agreed no amount of fine levied on people can stop them from littering..but it can surely make wear helmets and wear seat belts. Some corporate companies make it mandatory to wear helmet without a helmet admission into the office premises is prohibited. I have seen this rule pays off..and people do abide by such rules.

This gesture on the part of some corporate companies is commendable and worth emulating by other organizations,

Yes, small changes like these if adapted by corporate companies can go a long way to change people.

True. Development in small increments will stay solid and strong forever.

First of all civic sense need t be taught to children right from early childhood - not throw anything in public places, not spit in public places and so on...For those who ar already grown up into litter masters fine is the only solution, the stricter the measures the better ! I have heard people say that they do not mind parking at no parking zones since the fine is just Rs 50 or Rs 100 and your job gets done .But now this attitude has come down in my city since the fine amount has been increased to Rs 200 and the tyre gets locked and the vehicle towed away...

Imposing heavy fines surely helps. If a helmet costs 2000 and fine is 100 people will pay it. But if fine is 1500 or 2000 every one will think twice about paying fine. Minimum fine for violating traffic riles should start from Rs 1000 and it should be collected strictly on the spot or paid into a bank account. Till such time the driving licence shall remain in custody of the police. Not only Indians but every where people follow law also because of heavy fines.

This happened with one of my friends, who was driving on the wrong side of the road..his DL was taken into custody and was fined around 1000/-. Next time onwards he was careful. :)

Exactly heavy fines with transparent collection mechanism will go a long way in people being forced to follow the law and then it becomes a habit. While on a official trip to Switzerland a person in the company where I went was caught for over speeding on a road that had a speed restriction. His Driving Licence was suspended for six months. When I told him in India he could have got away by paying a bribe everyone around me was surprised and one of them said in that case the suspension could go up to two years. No doubt they look very disciplined to us.

The practice of lifting the wrongly parked vehicles by crane to a remote place has worked effectively. This practice has been extended to several other cities in AP

The practice of lifting the wrongly parked vehicles by crane to a remote place has worked effectively. This practice has been extended to several other cities in AP

Such practices should be carried out after providing enough parking space. This job here is given to contractors who lift generally two wheelers even when properly parked as they are paid on per vehicle basis. To some extent it helps, but friendly shopkeepers guide as to ehen the cranes are going to come.