Sports and civil clubs and dress code

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Many clubs insist on formal western type dress with neck tie for entry. They have kept the Pre independence rules intact. I know that the army mess/ clubs also prescribe such dress code. Recently, a Tamilnadu based club refused entry to a Dhoti clad retired judge who was invited to a function. I understand that the invitation card would have indicated the dress code for the occasion. It is for the judge either not to accept the invitation or to go there in proper dress as suggested. I don't understand what is so big about this. The Tamilnadu politicians see this as attack on Tamil culture.

But clubs also need to examine the tradition. Let the dress code be only for members or even individual guests of members. But an exception should be made for non members specially invited by the club.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/jayalalithaa-sets-dress-code-slams-dhoti-ban-by-chennai-clubs/article1-1240950.aspx

http://www.ndtv.com/article/south/indian-club-s-ban-on-dhotis-in-favor-of-western-attire-draws-protests-559937?curl=1405573088

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Exceptions should be made for non-members who have been specially invited for function in such clubs. The guests too do have enough sense to appear in properly ironed clothes even if they are traditional. Traditional clothes are no less smarter than western suits so it should not be made an issue.
Many clubs insist on formal western type dress with neck tie for entry. They have kept the Pre independence rules intact. I know that the army mess/ clubs also prescribe such dress code. Recently, a Tamilnadu based club refused entry to a Dhoti clad retired judge who was invited to a function. I understand that the invitation card would have indicated the dress code for the occasion. It is for the judge either not to accept the invitation or to go there in proper dress as suggested. I don't understand what is so big about this. The Tamilnadu politicians see this as attack on Tamil culture.

But clubs also need to examine the tradition. Let the dress code be only for members or even individual guests of members. But an exception should be made for non members specially invited by the club.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/jayalalithaa-sets-dress-code-slams-dhoti-ban-by-chennai-clubs/article1-1240950.aspx

http://www.ndtv.com/article/south/indian-club-s-ban-on-dhotis-in-favor-of-western-attire-draws-protests-559937?curl=1405573088


I believe when a dress code has been mentioned well in advance it should be adhered to or if one is not comfortable with the dress code the person should have a reason for not following the dress code and inform it to the host in advance.
Many clubs insist on formal western type dress with neck tie for entry. They have kept the Pre independence rules intact. I know that the army mess/ clubs also prescribe such dress code. Recently, a Tamilnadu based club refused entry to a Dhoti clad retired judge who was invited to a function. I understand that the invitation card would have indicated the dress code for the occasion. It is for the judge either not to accept the invitation or to go there in proper dress as suggested. I don't understand what is so big about this. The Tamilnadu politicians see this as attack on Tamil culture.

But clubs also need to examine the tradition. Let the dress code be only for members or even individual guests of members. But an exception should be made for non members specially invited by the club.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/jayalalithaa-sets-dress-code-slams-dhoti-ban-by-chennai-clubs/article1-1240950.aspx

http://www.ndtv.com/article/south/indian-club-s-ban-on-dhotis-in-favor-of-western-attire-draws-protests-559937?curl=1405573088


I believe when a dress code has been mentioned well in advance it should be adhered to or if one is not comfortable with the dress code the person should have a reason for not following the dress code and inform it to the host in advance.


That there are clubs which still carry dress codes made before independence ( by the British for keeping distance or forcing Indians to subjugation) shows how there are sections of Indians who also are not only insensitive but enjoy discrimination of fellow citizens to show their superiority. Supporting such rules is not justified.
A club is a place for entertainment and relaxation. The purpose of such clubs is mostly is to act as an escape from the daily routine. Not Wearing a particular prescribed dress will not defeat the purpose of such clubs. I opine forcing Dress code is an unwanted exercise.
A club is a place for entertainment and relaxation. The purpose of such clubs is mostly is to act as an escape from the daily routine. Not Wearing a particular prescribed dress will not defeat the purpose of such clubs. I opine forcing Dress code is an unwanted exercise.


A club has definitely to prescribe dress code for members in general or for specific occasion. Also there will be nothing wrong in adhering to dress code by individual guests of members. But when non members or othr dignititaries are invited on special occasions, they should be exemptd from dress code.
A club is a place for entertainment and relaxation. The purpose of such clubs is mostly is to act as an escape from the daily routine. Not Wearing a particular prescribed dress will not defeat the purpose of such clubs. I opine forcing Dress code is an unwanted exercise.


A club has definitely to prescribe dress code for members in general or for specific occasion. Also there will be nothing wrong in adhering to dress code by individual guests of members. But when non members or othr dignititaries are invited on special occasions, they should be exemptd from dress code.


It's all right to prescribe a dress code for a special occasion. But not for all occasions. There are many Hi Fi clubs in my place where there is no mandatory dress code.It's left to the discretion of the member.
A club is a place for entertainment and relaxation. The purpose of such clubs is mostly is to act as an escape from the daily routine. Not Wearing a particular prescribed dress will not defeat the purpose of such clubs. I opine forcing Dress code is an unwanted exercise.


A club has definitely to prescribe dress code for members in general or for specific occasion. Also there will be nothing wrong in adhering to dress code by individual guests of members. But when non members or othr dignititaries are invited on special occasions, they should be exemptd from dress code.


It's all right to prescribe a dress code for a special occasion. But not for all occasions. There are many Hi Fi clubs in my place where there is no mandatory dress code.It's left to the discretion of the member.


As far as members are concerned, dress code is internal matter with which others are not concerned. It is only others invited on special occasion for whom dress code needs be exempted.
A club is a place for entertainment and relaxation. The purpose of such clubs is mostly is to act as an escape from the daily routine. Not Wearing a particular prescribed dress will not defeat the purpose of such clubs. I opine forcing Dress code is an unwanted exercise.


A club has definitely to prescribe dress code for members in general or for specific occasion. Also there will be nothing wrong in adhering to dress code by individual guests of members. But when non members or othr dignititaries are invited on special occasions, they should be exemptd from dress code.


It's all right to prescribe a dress code for a special occasion. But not for all occasions. There are many Hi Fi clubs in my place where there is no mandatory dress code.It's left to the discretion of the member.


As far as members are concerned, dress code is internal matter with which others are not concerned. It is only others invited on special occasion for whom dress code needs be exempted.[/quote

I wanted to impress upon you is that dress code is not prevailing in all the clubs. It's not a rigid rule that it can't be amended or removed all together.
I agree with Jayalalithas stand on the issue...When kurtas are allowed why not dhotis ? On the one hand everyone harps on western culture and influence and on the other hand you see such stupid discriminations regarding dress codes ...What is essential is that an individual be dressed in neat and dignified clothes. Dhotis are traditionally worn in all the southern states and if these clubs dont respect this dress then there is something wrong with their priorities ...
I agree with Jayalalithas stand on the issue...When kurtas are allowed why not dhotis ? On the one hand everyone harps on western culture and influence and on the other hand you see such stupid discriminations regarding dress codes ...What is essential is that an individual be dressed in neat and dignified clothes. Dhotis are traditionally worn in all the southern states and if these clubs dont respect this dress then there is something wrong with their priorities ...[/quote

Clubs are not schools. Members are elders not children. Dress code is a thing that should be left to the members. Thrusting and forcing of a dress code will prove counter productive.
I agree with Jayalalithas stand on the issue...When kurtas are allowed why not dhotis ? On the one hand everyone harps on western culture and influence and on the other hand you see such stupid discriminations regarding dress codes ...What is essential is that an individual be dressed in neat and dignified clothes. Dhotis are traditionally worn in all the southern states and if these clubs dont respect this dress then there is something wrong with their priorities ...[/quote

Clubs are not schools. Members are elders not children. Dress code is a thing that should be left to the members. Thrusting and forcing of a dress code will prove counter productive.[/quote

A club consists of mmbers who have full liberty to decide their own dress and other matters. We cannot comment on their decisions in such matters. They can make rules for themselves.
I agree with Jayalalithas stand on the issue...When kurtas are allowed why not dhotis ? On the one hand everyone harps on western culture and influence and on the other hand you see such stupid discriminations regarding dress codes ...What is essential is that an individual be dressed in neat and dignified clothes. Dhotis are traditionally worn in all the southern states and if these clubs dont respect this dress then there is something wrong with their priorities ...[/quote

Clubs are not schools. Members are elders not children. Dress code is a thing that should be left to the members. Thrusting and forcing of a dress code will prove counter productive.[/quote

A club consists of mmbers who have full liberty to decide their own dress and other matters. We cannot comment on their decisions in such matters. They can make rules for themselves.[/quote

If its a decision of the members there is no issue at all. But there are clubs which have set rules. And the issue is about the clubs which have set rules and rigid rules. In all, i'm of the opinion there should not be any rigidity about a simple thing like dress.
I agree with Jayalalithas stand on the issue...When kurtas are allowed why not dhotis ? On the one hand everyone harps on western culture and influence and on the other hand you see such stupid discriminations regarding dress codes ...What is essential is that an individual be dressed in neat and dignified clothes. Dhotis are traditionally worn in all the southern states and if these clubs dont respect this dress then there is something wrong with their priorities ...[/quote

Clubs are not schools. Members are elders not children. Dress code is a thing that should be left to the members. Thrusting and forcing of a dress code will prove counter productive.[/quote

A club consists of mmbers who have full liberty to decide their own dress and other matters. We cannot comment on their decisions in such matters. They can make rules for themselves.


You are taking a legal view on a cultural issue. When a club bans a particular dress, in this case dhoti, it is expressing its disapproval of it and in the process all persons who are not members also feel insulted. Has any club in India ever banned western dress wearing by its members. What pleasure do a group of members get by banning Indian style dresses. It shows a slavish mentality to a dead power by self appointed persons. Club members cannot have the liberty of banning a dress style.
I agree with Jayalalithas stand on the issue...When kurtas are allowed why not dhotis ? On the one hand everyone harps on western culture and influence and on the other hand you see such stupid discriminations regarding dress codes ...What is essential is that an individual be dressed in neat and dignified clothes. Dhotis are traditionally worn in all the southern states and if these clubs dont respect this dress then there is something wrong with their priorities ...


Clubs are not schools. Members are elders not children. Dress code is a thing that should be left to the members. Thrusting and forcing of a dress code will prove counter productive.


One can understand certain functions where they have a dress code like a fancy dress party or a formal newyear ball but expecting people to dress in western clothes and disregarding traditional Indian attires shows lack of sensitivity and arrogance !
I agree with Jayalalithas stand on the issue...When kurtas are allowed why not dhotis ? On the one hand everyone harps on western culture and influence and on the other hand you see such stupid discriminations regarding dress codes ...What is essential is that an individual be dressed in neat and dignified clothes. Dhotis are traditionally worn in all the southern states and if these clubs dont respect this dress then there is something wrong with their priorities ...


Clubs are not schools. Members are elders not children. Dress code is a thing that should be left to the members. Thrusting and forcing of a dress code will prove counter productive.


One can understand certain functions where they have a dress code like a fancy dress party or a formal newyear ball but expecting people to dress in western clothes and disregarding traditional Indian attires shows lack of sensitivity and arrogance !


Then let membrs of these club decide what dress they prefer. If they prefer Indian type dress, they may well do so. Actually this all depends on members. When new membrs join they also accept the rules already made by the club. I feel that many cannot even wear Indian type dress. Personally I also wear only European type dress outside my residence and simply lungi and vests at residence. If I were required to join some function in Dhoti and Kurta, I would be unable to attend.
I agree with Jayalalithas stand on the issue...When kurtas are allowed why not dhotis ? On the one hand everyone harps on western culture and influence and on the other hand you see such stupid discriminations regarding dress codes ...What is essential is that an individual be dressed in neat and dignified clothes. Dhotis are traditionally worn in all the southern states and if these clubs dont respect this dress then there is something wrong with their priorities ...


Clubs are not schools. Members are elders not children. Dress code is a thing that should be left to the members. Thrusting and forcing of a dress code will prove counter productive.


One can understand certain functions where they have a dress code like a fancy dress party or a formal newyear ball but expecting people to dress in western clothes and disregarding traditional Indian attires shows lack of sensitivity and arrogance !


Then let membrs of these club decide what dress they prefer. If they prefer Indian type dress, they may well do so. Actually this all depends on members. When new membrs join they also accept the rules already made by the club. I feel that many cannot even wear Indian type dress. Personally I also wear only European type dress outside my residence and simply lungi and vests at residence. If I were required to join some function in Dhoti and Kurta, I would be unable to attend.


First of all i would like to know if there is a necessity of Dress code for a club which is nothing more than an escape for relaxation and a bit of entertainment. It's like asking the viewer to wear a particular dress to see a movie in a Cinema hall..
I agree with Jayalalithas stand on the issue...When kurtas are allowed why not dhotis ? On the one hand everyone harps on western culture and influence and on the other hand you see such stupid discriminations regarding dress codes ...What is essential is that an individual be dressed in neat and dignified clothes. Dhotis are traditionally worn in all the southern states and if these clubs dont respect this dress then there is something wrong with their priorities ...


Clubs are not schools. Members are elders not children. Dress code is a thing that should be left to the members. Thrusting and forcing of a dress code will prove counter productive.


One can understand certain functions where they have a dress code like a fancy dress party or a formal newyear ball but expecting people to dress in western clothes and disregarding traditional Indian attires shows lack of sensitivity and arrogance !


Then let membrs of these club decide what dress they prefer. If they prefer Indian type dress, they may well do so. Actually this all depends on members. When new membrs join they also accept the rules already made by the club. I feel that many cannot even wear Indian type dress. Personally I also wear only European type dress outside my residence and simply lungi and vests at residence. If I were required to join some function in Dhoti and Kurta, I would be unable to attend.


One should be neatly dressed - that should be the only requirement.
I think it is better to decline the invitation or not join civil clubs who follow a particular dress code or make it a mandate. Dressing is a personal choice and it should be left at it.
We are known for aping blindly imported Western customs. This habit has strongly entwined with our lives. We are helpless. We cannot get rid of habits like Dress code system and many such habits which have no relevance to the present society.
This is snowballing into a huge issue in TN having cm also putting forward her opinion. :whistle: :whistle:

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