What Guru Dronacharya did was right?

Every one knows that Guru Dronacharya had some mission on his mind while he took the charge to teach Pandavas and Kauravas. He wanted to take revenge from his friend Drupad. But while doing so he has done something which a Guru/Teacher should not supposed to do. To make Arjuna as the worlds best in Archery, he taken the biggest Gurudakshina from Eklavya.

My questions is what he did was right or wrong? Being a teacher how could he does this adharma? Please discuss it.

In today's context what Drona did was very unfair since he was robbing a talented person of what was due to him.But again we see such things happening even today in different ways of course ! Taking the time and the life style that existed those days I would think that , giving importance to royalty was considered a duty since the royal families took care of their wards and they should be shown as being tough or rather tougher and more talented than all others... Drona probably did what was expected of him but as Krishna said ' every action has a reaction, so in the end all the actions right and wrong beget similar reactions- a right for a right and a wrong for a wrong ! The way Mahabharat ends speaks for justice and this very rule of nature from which none of us can get away..

By all means I hail Drona charya.
Remember he had a mission to accomplish to make Arjuna the best archer in the world. He stood by his cause and and accomplished his Mission
Dharma and Adharma are relative words. They are not Absolute.
Dharma for Pakistan is Adharma for India.
Bhagat Singh was a traitor in the view of British
The same Bhagat Singh was a Patriot in the View of India.
There are no set norms for Dharma and Adharma.. Let's not jjudge others with our 'Own' standards.

What Dronacharya did could be his 'dharma'. He was 'royal guru'.. But it was Eklavya's folly to fall in the trap. The niggest lesson is that you should not rely on the ruling class- let this be Mahabharat times or modern times.

Everything is fair in war, as per great war of Mahabharat, the wishes of Lord Krishna exists, and the way he wanted to run the war, is testimony of different directions the war being fought, if Arjun was not secured from Ekalabya and later on Drona, might have been the war won by Kauravas, who are incidentally supporters of evils as the epic says.

Every one knows that Guru Dronacharya had some mission on his mind while he took the charge to teach Pandavas and Kauravas. He wanted to take revenge from his friend Drupad. But while doing so he has done something which a Guru/Teacher should not supposed to do. To make Arjuna as the worlds best in Archery, he taken the biggest Gurudakshina from Eklavya.

My questions is what he did was right or wrong? Being a teacher how could he does this adharma? Please discuss it.

In today's context what Drona did was very unfair since he was robbing a talented person of what was due to him.But again we see such things happening even today in different ways of course ! Taking the time and the life style that existed those days I would think that , giving importance to royalty was considered a duty since the royal families took care of their wards and they should be shown as being tough or rather tougher and more talented than all others... Drona probably did what was expected of him but as Krishna said ' every action has a reaction, so in the end all the actions right and wrong beget similar reactions- a right for a right and a wrong for a wrong ! The way Mahabharat ends speaks for justice and this very rule of nature from which none of us can get away..

Exactly..also we have to take note of the fact that Dronacharya stood by his given word , he had given word to Arjuna that he will make him the greatest archer in the world and it was within his dharma to remove all obstacles that lay in the way of Arjuna remaining the greatest archer in the world. Such things happen even today in different forms, different contexts too! And to err is only human, even if it a Dronacharya in the great epic or some humble person from the modern times.

Everything is fair in war, as per great war of Mahabharat, the wishes of Lord Krishna exists, and the way he wanted to run the war, is testimony of different directions the war being fought, if Arjun was not secured from Ekalabya and later on Drona, might have been the war won by Kauravas, who are incidentally supporters of evils as the epic says.

I fail to understand what was virtue or eveil in Mahabharat war. This was simply a land dispute or an internal family war. There is nothing on which there could be any public interest at large. The simple royal family war has been blown out of all proportion to sacred religious war or crusade or Jehad. Moreover, Mahabharata is just an epic and not history.

Everything is fair in war, as per great war of Mahabharat, the wishes of Lord Krishna exists, and the way he wanted to run the war, is testimony of different directions the war being fought, if Arjun was not secured from Ekalabya and later on Drona, might have been the war won by Kauravas, who are incidentally supporters of evils as the epic says.

I fail to understand what was virtue or eveil in Mahabharat war. This was simply a land dispute or an internal family war. There is nothing on which there could be any public interest at large. The simple royal family war has been blown out of all proportion to sacred religious war or crusade or Jehad. Moreover, Mahabharata is just an epic and not history.

Yes. Epic is an entirely different proposition. It cannot be History with so many additions and deletions with the time.

Everything is fair in war, as per great war of Mahabharat, the wishes of Lord Krishna exists, and the way he wanted to run the war, is testimony of different directions the war being fought, if Arjun was not secured from Ekalabya and later on Drona, might have been the war won by Kauravas, who are incidentally supporters of evils as the epic says.

I fail to understand what was virtue or eveil in Mahabharat war. This was simply a land dispute or an internal family war. There is nothing on which there could be any public interest at large. The simple royal family war has been blown out of all proportion to sacred religious war or crusade or Jehad. Moreover, Mahabharata is just an epic and not history.

Yes. Epic is an entirely different proposition. It cannot be History with so many additions and deletions with the time.

Thank you. Moreover, was there any greater pubic interest or was this simply a dispute on land or share of power in royal family? I feel this was simply a family dispute and so mahabharat war was not a crusade or dharmayudh.

Everything is fair in war, as per great war of Mahabharat, the wishes of Lord Krishna exists, and the way he wanted to run the war, is testimony of different directions the war being fought, if Arjun was not secured from Ekalabya and later on Drona, might have been the war won by Kauravas, who are incidentally supporters of evils as the epic says.

I fail to understand what was virtue or eveil in Mahabharat war. This was simply a land dispute or an internal family war. There is nothing on which there could be any public interest at large. The simple royal family war has been blown out of all proportion to sacred religious war or crusade or Jehad. Moreover, Mahabharata is just an epic and not history.

Yes. Epic is an entirely different proposition. It cannot be History with so many additions and deletions with the time.

Thank you. Moreover, was there any greater pubic interest or was this simply a dispute on land or share of power in royal family? I feel this was simply a family dispute and so mahabharat war was not a crusade or dharmayudh.

There is no public interest. It's dispute on land called Indraprasta and to annex it.

Every one knows that Guru Dronacharya had some mission on his mind while he took the charge to teach Pandavas and Kauravas. He wanted to take revenge from his friend Drupad. But while doing so he has done something which a Guru/Teacher should not supposed to do. To make Arjuna as the worlds best in Archery, he taken the biggest Gurudakshina from Eklavya.

My questions is what he did was right or wrong? Being a teacher how could he does this adharma? Please discuss it.

In today's context what Drona did was very unfair since he was robbing a talented person of what was due to him.But again we see such things happening even today in different ways of course ! Taking the time and the life style that existed those days I would think that , giving importance to royalty was considered a duty since the royal families took care of their wards and they should be shown as being tough or rather tougher and more talented than all others... Drona probably did what was expected of him but as Krishna said ' every action has a reaction, so in the end all the actions right and wrong beget similar reactions- a right for a right and a wrong for a wrong ! The way Mahabharat ends speaks for justice and this very rule of nature from which none of us can get away..

Exactly..also we have to take note of the fact that Dronacharya stood by his given word , he had given word to Arjuna that he will make him the greatest archer in the world and it was within his dharma to remove all obstacles that lay in the way of Arjuna remaining the greatest archer in the world. Such things happen even today in different forms, different contexts too! And to err is only human, even if it a Dronacharya in the great epic or some humble person from the modern times.

I remember there is a reference in Mahabharat where Arjun asks Krishna just before the war is fought and tells him how he felt cheated because of Duryodan and Karan.Then Krishna tells him that Arjun and the other Pandavas are able to see thimgs from their perspective and so also Duryodan.Whereas and outsider is able to see it differently and they would see bth the good and bad qualities of a person.He also tells that since Durydan had already gathered a large number of kings and their armies on his side, he does commend respect from others...But for what he has done or for that matter what anyone else has done there is a price to pay !

Ultimately, in front of teacher every student is same, and due to his evil karma, drone joined Kauravas side and he and his son ultimately lost his life. Ekalavya knew from beginning he had to shred his thumb as Guru dakhina, and Drona as employer of royal cannot teach people other than royal persons, but after seeing his talent, he allowed him to stand at a distance and learn from distance, perhaps it is his capital fee like corporate quota in big educational institutions.

While talking about Dharma and Adharma it seems people forgot to notice Dharma Raja, who is considered as the epitome of 'Sartya' or truth lied during Mahabharata war. He lied to demoralise Drona that Aswathama, Drona's son was dead. All epics are filled with loads of self contradictory concepts. Epics which were written or narrated thousands of years ago are relevant to the then existing conditions. If there is good that is relevant to the present conditions they should be taken. Else discarded.

Ultimately, in front of teacher every student is same, and due to his evil karma, drone joined Kauravas side and he and his son ultimately lost his life. Ekalavya knew from beginning he had to shred his thumb as Guru dakhina, and Drona as employer of royal cannot teach people other than royal persons, but after seeing his talent, he allowed him to stand at a distance and learn from distance, perhaps it is his capital fee like corporate quota in big educational institutions.

Drona got his status through the Hasthinapur empire and it is Raja dharma to protect the interest of the throne or the kingdom, who the ruler is not important. Drona's tale too is full of ups and downs and he did what he had to do out of compulsion and necessity...

Ultimately, in front of teacher every student is same, and due to his evil karma, drone joined Kauravas side and he and his son ultimately lost his life. Ekalavya knew from beginning he had to shred his thumb as Guru dakhina, and Drona as employer of royal cannot teach people other than royal persons, but after seeing his talent, he allowed him to stand at a distance and learn from distance, perhaps it is his capital fee like corporate quota in big educational institutions.

Drona got his status through the Hasthinapur empire and it is Raja dharma to protect the interest of the throne or the kingdom, who the ruler is not important. Drona's tale too is full of ups and downs and he did what he had to do out of compulsion and necessity...

Drona was only doing his duty towards those who had employed him and given him shelter when he most needed it. His duty was to repay that gesture, and if it is evil, so be it. But we also have to consider that Drona along with Vidur and others did try their best to persuade Duryodhan and his henchmen from waging a war against Pandavas. When all efforts failed and the war became inevitable, Drona had no option but to side with the Kauravas. Also, one important factor is Krishna, it was predestined karma that war HAD to happen and Krishna made sure that all roads pointed to the battlefield. So in larger perspective, Drona, Duryodhan, Arjun, Karna all were nothing but pawns in the hands of Lord Krishna. If one reads Mahabharat really carefully and with an open mind, he will find that there are lessons to be learned from the epic, lessons that are relevant to today's times as well. Many dismiss it as mere fiction about a glorified dispute for land, but it is not the case. It is much more than that, but one can only learn when he or she has an open mind!

Ultimately, in front of teacher every student is same, and due to his evil karma, drone joined Kauravas side and he and his son ultimately lost his life. Ekalavya knew from beginning he had to shred his thumb as Guru dakhina, and Drona as employer of royal cannot teach people other than royal persons, but after seeing his talent, he allowed him to stand at a distance and learn from distance, perhaps it is his capital fee like corporate quota in big educational institutions.

Drona got his status through the Hasthinapur empire and it is Raja dharma to protect the interest of the throne or the kingdom, who the ruler is not important. Drona's tale too is full of ups and downs and he did what he had to do out of compulsion and necessity...

Drona was only doing his duty towards those who had employed him and given him shelter when he most needed it. His duty was to repay that gesture, and if it is evil, so be it. But we also have to consider that Drona along with Vidur and others did try their best to persuade Duryodhan and his henchmen from waging a war against Pandavas. When all efforts failed and the war became inevitable, Drona had no option but to side with the Kauravas. Also, one important factor is Krishna, it was predestined karma that war HAD to happen and Krishna made sure that all roads pointed to the battlefield. So in larger perspective, Drona, Duryodhan, Arjun, Karna all were nothing but pawns in the hands of Lord Krishna. If one reads Mahabharat really carefully and with an open mind, he will find that there are lessons to be learned from the epic, lessons that are relevant to today's times as well. Many dismiss it as mere fiction about a glorified dispute for land, but it is not the case. It is much more than that, but one can only learn when he or she has an open mind!

Absolutely ! I personally feel that Mahbharat was one of the greatest epic ever written in every respect...It is relevant for all times since it has so much wisdom and in depth analysis of life !

While talking about Dharma and Adharma it seems people forgot to notice Dharma Raja, who is considered as the epitome of 'Sartya' or truth lied during Mahabharata war. He lied to demoralise Drona that Aswathama, Drona's son was dead. All epics are filled with loads of self contradictory concepts. Epics which were written or narrated thousands of years ago are relevant to the then existing conditions. If there is good that is relevant to the present conditions they should be taken. Else discarded.

Mahabharat will be always relevant. This epic is essentially about royal family dispute and consequent war. There are many evts subsidiary to the main theme. Family disputes, land disputes and property disputes will always be there. So you may always learn from this epic. But if you want to keep peace, avoid this book. It is interesting that Mahabharat Katha (recitation of the epic) is never arranged in any home. People fear that recitation of Mahabharata would result in quarrel. So Mahabharata katha is only in grounds or community halls.

Mahabharat is an epic no override on it, and with the stories or truthfulness is still under research, as the race at that time brings forward such humongous epic must be developed, as every writing is the mirror of society we do live, in each developments in this epic we find mention about ills of life and just as how Duryodhan offended Draupadi , and she vows to abolish kauravas, these incidents are not stories, but eye opener to society and in war, everything is right, Drona wants Arjun to be his number one student and he does it, as he knows from beginning some day there would be war between two sides, It is the reflection of evils and people are learning from it with deep mind, and many also read it as stories but there are always inherent meaning to each incidents.

While talking about Dharma and Adharma it seems people forgot to notice Dharma Raja, who is considered as the epitome of 'Sartya' or truth lied during Mahabharata war. He lied to demoralise Drona that Aswathama, Drona's son was dead. All epics are filled with loads of self contradictory concepts. Epics which were written or narrated thousands of years ago are relevant to the then existing conditions. If there is good that is relevant to the present conditions they should be taken. Else discarded.

Mahabharat will be always relevant. This epic is essentially about royal family dispute and consequent war. There are many evts subsidiary to the main theme. Family disputes, land disputes and property disputes will always be there. So you may always learn from this epic. But if you want to keep peace, avoid this book. It is interesting that Mahabharat Katha (recitation of the epic) is never arranged in any home. People fear that recitation of Mahabharata would result in quarrel. So Mahabharata katha is only in grounds or community halls.

I have already mentioned in my earlier threads, no epic or a scripture can be relevant in totality with all times . Because they were written or narrated In tune with the then conditions. If a certain part of an epic is relevant to the present times, accept it. Else discard it.
A woman having five husbands was a norm in Mahabharata times. I do not accept it because its not relevant to the present times. ‘Satyameva Jayate’, truth alone triumphs is relevant even now. I accept it.

Mahabharat is an epic no override on it, and with the stories or truthfulness is still under research, as the race at that time brings forward such humongous epic must be developed, as every writing is the mirror of society we do live, in each developments in this epic we find mention about ills of life and just as how Duryodhan offended Draupadi , and she vows to abolish kauravas, these incidents are not stories, but eye opener to society and in war, everything is right, Drona wants Arjun to be his number one student and he does it, as he knows from beginning some day there would be war between two sides, It is the reflection of evils and people are learning from it with deep mind, and many also read it as stories but there are always inherent meaning to each incidents.

Every single happening is the result of a previous action.In Duryodans case , he is humiliated by Draupadi and her maids when he visits their palace at Indraprastha and falls into water and gets disrobed.He wants to commit suicide but is stoped by Karan asking him to wait for an opportunity to get even and get his revenge against Draupadi and the Pandavas. For him that is right , although he could have done it in a more subtle manner instead of asking Dushysan to drag Draupadi to the royal court and disrobe her - we all have both evil and virtue within us only the degree is different and in some evil becomes the predominant feature whereas in most of us it comes out when we are stressed beyond our limits..

Every action should not have equal and opposite reaction, Duryodhana should not have taken this in his ride as epic Mahabharat, is for all times and all situations, it is teaching how, a big race of Kauravas diminished due to this, many different aspects are learnt and even all aspects of living are being taught and understood for years to come and relevant and rational people will take lessons from it,