Repealing Aeticle 370 that confers special status to Jammu & Kashmir is a serious issue with BJP. They were helpless as they failed to get single party majority. Now it appears that they have softened their stand on this issue. It is difficult to visualize how the BJP followers will react.
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/bjp-softens-on-article-370-narendra-modi-seeks-discussion-on-it/articleshow/26691956.cms
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Actually what should have been a matter of dispassionate and rational debate has degenerated into one raised by the BJP and whatever is raised by this party comes under the scanner and hammer by pseudo secularists. If India has a rightful, legally valid claim on J&K, why should we be apologetic about it . This very dispensation drives a permanent wedge between rest of India and the state!!
There is one and only solution of this problem- First thing first - The parties should make their stand clear on this issue. If they think that Kashmir problem is beyond any solution, they should stop calling it an Indian state, simple as that. Why should we spend so much on every front and yet loose the precious life of armed forces and civilians?
Article 370 is in the fundamental principles of Indian constitution, which is temporary provisions and now some politicians are linking these to minorities issues, and in which way it is connected to them failed to understand and even learned leaders from left, are also saying the same, it is a sad state of affairs,
I am not talking abt. ancestral properties, if a JK girl marries a person outside JK permanent resident, then she cannot buy a land at JK, just like rest of we Indians. But it is not the case with males of JK. CM of JK married to a British lady, still he can buy new properties in JK, but his sister, married to Sachin Pilot, who is from Rajastan, and she cannot buy a single foot in JK. It is according to article 370. In JK the percentages of SC and ST is 60 or 70 % but sadly they are not entitled for reservation in jobs, of India or in JK, due to article 370, all these are negatives, and these can be amended, if not removed, it is not a constitutional amendment. simple executive order can modify some provisions.BJP is leaving no chance of kicking up controversy in the states where it is not in power. It is trying to create as much confusion as possible in the minds of voters and reap its fruit. In this way it is proving it has nothing positive to offer. It is showing its desperation in using insulting language and making personal attack on the leadership of its opponent parties. In indulging in such tactics it is losing its goodwill among many people who otherwise would have supported it.
Article 370 is just another point on which it wants to rake up dust. Does it have policies to develop the state, create jobs, build up infrastructure to provide better healthcare and education? What are its plans to make the state free from bloodshed and take it on the path of progress? These are the topics on which intelligent citizens want to know its plan.
But they do not adress intelligent citizens. They just make mob management and media management and create the impressiuon that they are just coming to power. Similar exercise was made in the past also under slogan of 'India shining'. In fact, both major parties are corrupt. Everyone knows of what the main opposition party ruled states in Karnataka and Uttar Pradesh did. Now both so called main stream parties have lost ground in Uttar Pradesh so that only Bahujan Samaj Party and Samajvadi party are relevant.
They have asked for discussions on this article, as one has to diagnosis whether this article is giving prudent benefit to JK or not, it is the only state where if girls marry outside state will lose rights of property. There may be negatives abt. it, the mere what the govt. of the day saying by simple discussion on it is going to hurt JK is point not approved by many. If it is giving riche benefits then continue with it, what abt, the other way round, time to ponder upon.
Actually the differentiation between man and woman is not so much a matter directly flowing for Article 370. This is owing to social norms. A woman gets title and other facilities from her husband whereas husband retains his original title and status. Hence a woman married to some one outside Jammu & Kashmir will get status of her husband. I remember that Dr. Karan singh's sister Ratna was married to Nepal King Mahendra. Thus she became maharani of Nepal and acquired new status.
Here are some comments on the article by J & K leaders:
http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report-national-conference-people-s-democratic-party-warn-against-any-tampering-1928641
The society in j & K also is patriarchal society. So a woman married to somebody outside will go to reside outside and lose connection with her home state. This is everywhere. A Kashmiri woman married to a Rajasthani is Rajasthani and not kashmiri. why make fuss about this. A man does not go anywhere but remains in his parent home and so retains privileges in his home. A Kashmiri marrying a non Kashmiri woman remains in his home in kashmir and so wil be entitled to the privilege. This is so simple. This is more a gender issue. If any change is necessary, it is for j & K government and their assembly to consider.
Indian law is saying on paternal property all siblings irrespective of genders have equal rights to property, and this does not apply to JK. Secondly, if a Kashmir girl marries Rajastani, she became Rajastani, but why she should lose her rights to buy a property at JK, I am not talking here abt, abcestral property but real estate property at JK, if she wishes, she cannot buy it, Ladakh has four times land of Kashmir, but it has only one MP seat, as due to article 370, resettlement of Lok sabha constituency cannot be done. Why 60 percentages of JK's SC and STs (out of all population there )will not get reservation quota, as rest of Indians? why there is differentiation,I am not talking abt. ancestral properties, if a JK girl marries a person outside JK permanent resident, then she cannot buy a land at JK, just like rest of we Indians. But it is not the case with males of JK. CM of JK married to a British lady, still he can buy new properties in JK, but his sister, married to Sachin Pilot, who is from Rajastan, and she cannot buy a single foot in JK. It is according to article 370. In JK the percentages of SC and ST is 60 or 70 % but sadly they are not entitled for reservation in jobs, of India or in JK, due to article 370, all these are negatives, and these can be amended, if not removed, it is not a constitutional amendment. simple executive order can modify some provisions.BJP is leaving no chance of kicking up controversy in the states where it is not in power. It is trying to create as much confusion as possible in the minds of voters and reap its fruit. In this way it is proving it has nothing positive to offer. It is showing its desperation in using insulting language and making personal attack on the leadership of its opponent parties. In indulging in such tactics it is losing its goodwill among many people who otherwise would have supported it.
Article 370 is just another point on which it wants to rake up dust. Does it have policies to develop the state, create jobs, build up infrastructure to provide better healthcare and education? What are its plans to make the state free from bloodshed and take it on the path of progress? These are the topics on which intelligent citizens want to know its plan.
But they do not adress intelligent citizens. They just make mob management and media management and create the impressiuon that they are just coming to power. Similar exercise was made in the past also under slogan of 'India shining'. In fact, both major parties are corrupt. Everyone knows of what the main opposition party ruled states in Karnataka and Uttar Pradesh did. Now both so called main stream parties have lost ground in Uttar Pradesh so that only Bahujan Samaj Party and Samajvadi party are relevant.
They have asked for discussions on this article, as one has to diagnosis whether this article is giving prudent benefit to JK or not, it is the only state where if girls marry outside state will lose rights of property. There may be negatives abt. it, the mere what the govt. of the day saying by simple discussion on it is going to hurt JK is point not approved by many. If it is giving riche benefits then continue with it, what abt, the other way round, time to ponder upon.
Actually the differentiation between man and woman is not so much a matter directly flowing for Article 370. This is owing to social norms. A woman gets title and other facilities from her husband whereas husband retains his original title and status. Hence a woman married to some one outside Jammu & Kashmir will get status of her husband. I remember that Dr. Karan singh's sister Ratna was married to Nepal King Mahendra. Thus she became maharani of Nepal and acquired new status.
Here are some comments on the article by J & K leaders:
http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report-national-conference-people-s-democratic-party-warn-against-any-tampering-1928641
The society in j & K also is patriarchal society. So a woman married to somebody outside will go to reside outside and lose connection with her home state. This is everywhere. A Kashmiri woman married to a Rajasthani is Rajasthani and not kashmiri. why make fuss about this. A man does not go anywhere but remains in his parent home and so retains privileges in his home. A Kashmiri marrying a non Kashmiri woman remains in his home in kashmir and so wil be entitled to the privilege. This is so simple. This is more a gender issue. If any change is necessary, it is for j & K government and their assembly to consider.
There is one and only solution of this problem- First thing first - The parties should make their stand clear on this issue. If they think that Kashmir problem is beyond any solution, they should stop calling it an Indian state, simple as that. Why should we spend so much on every front and yet loose the precious life of armed forces and civilians?
As I have been repeating myself stressing this point that it is devoid of all logicality and intellectual integrity that this provision has been a very dangerous compromise with the tenets of federal polity and Nehru should be squarely blamed for this horrible mess!!!
There is one and only solution of this problem- First thing first - The parties should make their stand clear on this issue. If they think that Kashmir problem is beyond any solution, they should stop calling it an Indian state, simple as that. Why should we spend so much on every front and yet loose the precious life of armed forces and civilians?
As I have been repeating myself stressing this point that it is devoid of all logicality and intellectual integrity that this provision has been a very dangerous compromise with the tenets of federal polity and Nehru should be squarely blamed for this horrible mess!!!
Nehru is the basic reason of at least 50% of the problems this country is facing, if not more, and rest of the problems come from congress party's way of tackling the issues. They think that they own this country just because a person called Gandhi sat on hunger strikes and got constant beating by the Brits. We should not forget the reason of independence was not him but people like Netaji Bose, Bhagat Singh and others like Gokhle and the list goes on. Brits only used Gandhi and finally succeeded in dividing this country. The Brits left due to international pressure and left from all other places also at almost the same time, without any Gandhi sitting and doing any drama.
There is one and only solution of this problem- First thing first - The parties should make their stand clear on this issue. If they think that Kashmir problem is beyond any solution, they should stop calling it an Indian state, simple as that. Why should we spend so much on every front and yet loose the precious life of armed forces and civilians?
As I have been repeating myself stressing this point that it is devoid of all logicality and intellectual integrity that this provision has been a very dangerous compromise with the tenets of federal polity and Nehru should be squarely blamed for this horrible mess!!!
Nehru is the basic reason of at least 50% of the problems this country is facing, if not more, and rest of the problems come from congress party's way of tackling the issues. They think that they own this country just because a person called Gandhi sat on hunger strikes and got constant beating by the Brits. We should not forget the reason of independence was not him but people like Netaji Bose, Bhagat Singh and others like Gokhle and the list goes on. Brits only used Gandhi and finally succeeded in dividing this country. The Brits left due to international pressure and left from all other places also at almost the same time, without any Gandhi sitting and doing any drama.
It is true that some vested interest are constantly at work propounding this highly biased and untrue theory that we won our freedom on the strength of Gandhiji's non-violent struggle, completely ignoring and at times launching virulent attacks on the role of those who made supreme sacrifices with their conviction that violence is best met by matching violence which funnily echoed Mahatma's one of his self-contradicting remarks!! Then he himself was at times unscrutable. His attitude towards Netaji was just baffling. He was behind orchestrating efforts to oust him from the post of president of Congress!!
Indian law is saying on paternal property all siblings irrespective of genders have equal rights to property, and this does not apply to JK. Secondly, if a Kashmir girl marries Rajastani, she became Rajastani, but why she should lose her rights to buy a property at JK, I am not talking here abt, abcestral property but real estate property at JK, if she wishes, she cannot buy it, Ladakh has four times land of Kashmir, but it has only one MP seat, as due to article 370, resettlement of Lok sabha constituency cannot be done. Why 60 percentages of JK's SC and STs (out of all population there )will not get reservation quota, as rest of Indians? why there is differentiation,I am not talking abt. ancestral properties, if a JK girl marries a person outside JK permanent resident, then she cannot buy a land at JK, just like rest of we Indians. But it is not the case with males of JK. CM of JK married to a British lady, still he can buy new properties in JK, but his sister, married to Sachin Pilot, who is from Rajastan, and she cannot buy a single foot in JK. It is according to article 370. In JK the percentages of SC and ST is 60 or 70 % but sadly they are not entitled for reservation in jobs, of India or in JK, due to article 370, all these are negatives, and these can be amended, if not removed, it is not a constitutional amendment. simple executive order can modify some provisions.BJP is leaving no chance of kicking up controversy in the states where it is not in power. It is trying to create as much confusion as possible in the minds of voters and reap its fruit. In this way it is proving it has nothing positive to offer. It is showing its desperation in using insulting language and making personal attack on the leadership of its opponent parties. In indulging in such tactics it is losing its goodwill among many people who otherwise would have supported it.
Article 370 is just another point on which it wants to rake up dust. Does it have policies to develop the state, create jobs, build up infrastructure to provide better healthcare and education? What are its plans to make the state free from bloodshed and take it on the path of progress? These are the topics on which intelligent citizens want to know its plan.
But they do not adress intelligent citizens. They just make mob management and media management and create the impressiuon that they are just coming to power. Similar exercise was made in the past also under slogan of 'India shining'. In fact, both major parties are corrupt. Everyone knows of what the main opposition party ruled states in Karnataka and Uttar Pradesh did. Now both so called main stream parties have lost ground in Uttar Pradesh so that only Bahujan Samaj Party and Samajvadi party are relevant.
They have asked for discussions on this article, as one has to diagnosis whether this article is giving prudent benefit to JK or not, it is the only state where if girls marry outside state will lose rights of property. There may be negatives abt. it, the mere what the govt. of the day saying by simple discussion on it is going to hurt JK is point not approved by many. If it is giving riche benefits then continue with it, what abt, the other way round, time to ponder upon.
Actually the differentiation between man and woman is not so much a matter directly flowing for Article 370. This is owing to social norms. A woman gets title and other facilities from her husband whereas husband retains his original title and status. Hence a woman married to some one outside Jammu & Kashmir will get status of her husband. I remember that Dr. Karan singh's sister Ratna was married to Nepal King Mahendra. Thus she became maharani of Nepal and acquired new status.
Here are some comments on the article by J & K leaders:
http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report-national-conference-people-s-democratic-party-warn-against-any-tampering-1928641
The society in j & K also is patriarchal society. So a woman married to somebody outside will go to reside outside and lose connection with her home state. This is everywhere. A Kashmiri woman married to a Rajasthani is Rajasthani and not kashmiri. why make fuss about this. A man does not go anywhere but remains in his parent home and so retains privileges in his home. A Kashmiri marrying a non Kashmiri woman remains in his home in kashmir and so wil be entitled to the privilege. This is so simple. This is more a gender issue. If any change is necessary, it is for j & K government and their assembly to consider.
Succession is a matter of personal law. There is no uniform personal law in India. There is separate law for Hindus, Muslims and Christians. tribal follow seprate customs. Even Hindus have two different branches- Dayabhag and Mitakshara. So if there is some different personal law in kashmir, this is no issue.
Indian law is saying on paternal property all siblings irrespective of genders have equal rights to property, and this does not apply to JK. Secondly, if a Kashmir girl marries Rajastani, she became Rajastani, but why she should lose her rights to buy a property at JK, I am not talking here abt, abcestral property but real estate property at JK, if she wishes, she cannot buy it, Ladakh has four times land of Kashmir, but it has only one MP seat, as due to article 370, resettlement of Lok sabha constituency cannot be done. Why 60 percentages of JK's SC and STs (out of all population there )will not get reservation quota, as rest of Indians? why there is differentiation,I am not talking abt. ancestral properties, if a JK girl marries a person outside JK permanent resident, then she cannot buy a land at JK, just like rest of we Indians. But it is not the case with males of JK. CM of JK married to a British lady, still he can buy new properties in JK, but his sister, married to Sachin Pilot, who is from Rajastan, and she cannot buy a single foot in JK. It is according to article 370. In JK the percentages of SC and ST is 60 or 70 % but sadly they are not entitled for reservation in jobs, of India or in JK, due to article 370, all these are negatives, and these can be amended, if not removed, it is not a constitutional amendment. simple executive order can modify some provisions.BJP is leaving no chance of kicking up controversy in the states where it is not in power. It is trying to create as much confusion as possible in the minds of voters and reap its fruit. In this way it is proving it has nothing positive to offer. It is showing its desperation in using insulting language and making personal attack on the leadership of its opponent parties. In indulging in such tactics it is losing its goodwill among many people who otherwise would have supported it.
Article 370 is just another point on which it wants to rake up dust. Does it have policies to develop the state, create jobs, build up infrastructure to provide better healthcare and education? What are its plans to make the state free from bloodshed and take it on the path of progress? These are the topics on which intelligent citizens want to know its plan.
But they do not adress intelligent citizens. They just make mob management and media management and create the impressiuon that they are just coming to power. Similar exercise was made in the past also under slogan of 'India shining'. In fact, both major parties are corrupt. Everyone knows of what the main opposition party ruled states in Karnataka and Uttar Pradesh did. Now both so called main stream parties have lost ground in Uttar Pradesh so that only Bahujan Samaj Party and Samajvadi party are relevant.
They have asked for discussions on this article, as one has to diagnosis whether this article is giving prudent benefit to JK or not, it is the only state where if girls marry outside state will lose rights of property. There may be negatives abt. it, the mere what the govt. of the day saying by simple discussion on it is going to hurt JK is point not approved by many. If it is giving riche benefits then continue with it, what abt, the other way round, time to ponder upon.
Actually the differentiation between man and woman is not so much a matter directly flowing for Article 370. This is owing to social norms. A woman gets title and other facilities from her husband whereas husband retains his original title and status. Hence a woman married to some one outside Jammu & Kashmir will get status of her husband. I remember that Dr. Karan singh's sister Ratna was married to Nepal King Mahendra. Thus she became maharani of Nepal and acquired new status.
Here are some comments on the article by J & K leaders:
http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report-national-conference-people-s-democratic-party-warn-against-any-tampering-1928641
The society in j & K also is patriarchal society. So a woman married to somebody outside will go to reside outside and lose connection with her home state. This is everywhere. A Kashmiri woman married to a Rajasthani is Rajasthani and not kashmiri. why make fuss about this. A man does not go anywhere but remains in his parent home and so retains privileges in his home. A Kashmiri marrying a non Kashmiri woman remains in his home in kashmir and so wil be entitled to the privilege. This is so simple. This is more a gender issue. If any change is necessary, it is for j & K government and their assembly to consider.
Succession is a matter of personal law. There is no uniform personal law in India. There is separate law for Hindus, Muslims and Christians. tribal follow seprate customs. Even Hindus have two different branches- Dayabhag and Mitakshara. So if there is some different personal law in kashmir, this is no issue.
It is where we have actually erred. We should not be having personal laws of different religious groups or communities and there should be a rational debate on this issue. Here again we play safe by perpetuating status quo.
Indian law is saying on paternal property all siblings irrespective of genders have equal rights to property, and this does not apply to JK. Secondly, if a Kashmir girl marries Rajastani, she became Rajastani, but why she should lose her rights to buy a property at JK, I am not talking here abt, abcestral property but real estate property at JK, if she wishes, she cannot buy it, Ladakh has four times land of Kashmir, but it has only one MP seat, as due to article 370, resettlement of Lok sabha constituency cannot be done. Why 60 percentages of JK's SC and STs (out of all population there )will not get reservation quota, as rest of Indians? why there is differentiation,I am not talking abt. ancestral properties, if a JK girl marries a person outside JK permanent resident, then she cannot buy a land at JK, just like rest of we Indians. But it is not the case with males of JK. CM of JK married to a British lady, still he can buy new properties in JK, but his sister, married to Sachin Pilot, who is from Rajastan, and she cannot buy a single foot in JK. It is according to article 370. In JK the percentages of SC and ST is 60 or 70 % but sadly they are not entitled for reservation in jobs, of India or in JK, due to article 370, all these are negatives, and these can be amended, if not removed, it is not a constitutional amendment. simple executive order can modify some provisions.BJP is leaving no chance of kicking up controversy in the states where it is not in power. It is trying to create as much confusion as possible in the minds of voters and reap its fruit. In this way it is proving it has nothing positive to offer. It is showing its desperation in using insulting language and making personal attack on the leadership of its opponent parties. In indulging in such tactics it is losing its goodwill among many people who otherwise would have supported it.
Article 370 is just another point on which it wants to rake up dust. Does it have policies to develop the state, create jobs, build up infrastructure to provide better healthcare and education? What are its plans to make the state free from bloodshed and take it on the path of progress? These are the topics on which intelligent citizens want to know its plan.
But they do not adress intelligent citizens. They just make mob management and media management and create the impressiuon that they are just coming to power. Similar exercise was made in the past also under slogan of 'India shining'. In fact, both major parties are corrupt. Everyone knows of what the main opposition party ruled states in Karnataka and Uttar Pradesh did. Now both so called main stream parties have lost ground in Uttar Pradesh so that only Bahujan Samaj Party and Samajvadi party are relevant.
They have asked for discussions on this article, as one has to diagnosis whether this article is giving prudent benefit to JK or not, it is the only state where if girls marry outside state will lose rights of property. There may be negatives abt. it, the mere what the govt. of the day saying by simple discussion on it is going to hurt JK is point not approved by many. If it is giving riche benefits then continue with it, what abt, the other way round, time to ponder upon.
Actually the differentiation between man and woman is not so much a matter directly flowing for Article 370. This is owing to social norms. A woman gets title and other facilities from her husband whereas husband retains his original title and status. Hence a woman married to some one outside Jammu & Kashmir will get status of her husband. I remember that Dr. Karan singh's sister Ratna was married to Nepal King Mahendra. Thus she became maharani of Nepal and acquired new status.
Here are some comments on the article by J & K leaders:
http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report-national-conference-people-s-democratic-party-warn-against-any-tampering-1928641
The society in j & K also is patriarchal society. So a woman married to somebody outside will go to reside outside and lose connection with her home state. This is everywhere. A Kashmiri woman married to a Rajasthani is Rajasthani and not kashmiri. why make fuss about this. A man does not go anywhere but remains in his parent home and so retains privileges in his home. A Kashmiri marrying a non Kashmiri woman remains in his home in kashmir and so wil be entitled to the privilege. This is so simple. This is more a gender issue. If any change is necessary, it is for j & K government and their assembly to consider.
Succession is a matter of personal law. There is no uniform personal law in India. There is separate law for Hindus, Muslims and Christians. tribal follow seprate customs. Even Hindus have two different branches- Dayabhag and Mitakshara. So if there is some different personal law in kashmir, this is no issue.
It is where we have actually erred. We should not be having personal laws of different religious groups or communities and there should be a rational debate on this issue. Here again we play safe by perpetuating status quo.
Here I agree. There can be debate on uniform law on succession and family matters. This issue is different. Article 370 is essentially an issue of relation between Indian Union and the state of J & K. Roping in other matters will distract us from this main issue.
Indian law is saying on paternal property all siblings irrespective of genders have equal rights to property, and this does not apply to JK. Secondly, if a Kashmir girl marries Rajastani, she became Rajastani, but why she should lose her rights to buy a property at JK, I am not talking here abt, abcestral property but real estate property at JK, if she wishes, she cannot buy it, Ladakh has four times land of Kashmir, but it has only one MP seat, as due to article 370, resettlement of Lok sabha constituency cannot be done. Why 60 percentages of JK's SC and STs (out of all population there )will not get reservation quota, as rest of Indians? why there is differentiation,I am not talking abt. ancestral properties, if a JK girl marries a person outside JK permanent resident, then she cannot buy a land at JK, just like rest of we Indians. But it is not the case with males of JK. CM of JK married to a British lady, still he can buy new properties in JK, but his sister, married to Sachin Pilot, who is from Rajastan, and she cannot buy a single foot in JK. It is according to article 370. In JK the percentages of SC and ST is 60 or 70 % but sadly they are not entitled for reservation in jobs, of India or in JK, due to article 370, all these are negatives, and these can be amended, if not removed, it is not a constitutional amendment. simple executive order can modify some provisions.BJP is leaving no chance of kicking up controversy in the states where it is not in power. It is trying to create as much confusion as possible in the minds of voters and reap its fruit. In this way it is proving it has nothing positive to offer. It is showing its desperation in using insulting language and making personal attack on the leadership of its opponent parties. In indulging in such tactics it is losing its goodwill among many people who otherwise would have supported it.
Article 370 is just another point on which it wants to rake up dust. Does it have policies to develop the state, create jobs, build up infrastructure to provide better healthcare and education? What are its plans to make the state free from bloodshed and take it on the path of progress? These are the topics on which intelligent citizens want to know its plan.
But they do not adress intelligent citizens. They just make mob management and media management and create the impressiuon that they are just coming to power. Similar exercise was made in the past also under slogan of 'India shining'. In fact, both major parties are corrupt. Everyone knows of what the main opposition party ruled states in Karnataka and Uttar Pradesh did. Now both so called main stream parties have lost ground in Uttar Pradesh so that only Bahujan Samaj Party and Samajvadi party are relevant.
They have asked for discussions on this article, as one has to diagnosis whether this article is giving prudent benefit to JK or not, it is the only state where if girls marry outside state will lose rights of property. There may be negatives abt. it, the mere what the govt. of the day saying by simple discussion on it is going to hurt JK is point not approved by many. If it is giving riche benefits then continue with it, what abt, the other way round, time to ponder upon.
Actually the differentiation between man and woman is not so much a matter directly flowing for Article 370. This is owing to social norms. A woman gets title and other facilities from her husband whereas husband retains his original title and status. Hence a woman married to some one outside Jammu & Kashmir will get status of her husband. I remember that Dr. Karan singh's sister Ratna was married to Nepal King Mahendra. Thus she became maharani of Nepal and acquired new status.
Here are some comments on the article by J & K leaders:
http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report-national-conference-people-s-democratic-party-warn-against-any-tampering-1928641
The society in j & K also is patriarchal society. So a woman married to somebody outside will go to reside outside and lose connection with her home state. This is everywhere. A Kashmiri woman married to a Rajasthani is Rajasthani and not kashmiri. why make fuss about this. A man does not go anywhere but remains in his parent home and so retains privileges in his home. A Kashmiri marrying a non Kashmiri woman remains in his home in kashmir and so wil be entitled to the privilege. This is so simple. This is more a gender issue. If any change is necessary, it is for j & K government and their assembly to consider.
Succession is a matter of personal law. There is no uniform personal law in India. There is separate law for Hindus, Muslims and Christians. tribal follow seprate customs. Even Hindus have two different branches- Dayabhag and Mitakshara. So if there is some different personal law in kashmir, this is no issue.
It is where we have actually erred. We should not be having personal laws of different religious groups or communities and there should be a rational debate on this issue. Here again we play safe by perpetuating status quo.
Here I agree. There can be debate on uniform law on succession and family matters. This issue is different. Article 370 is essentially an issue of relation between Indian Union and the state of J & K. Roping in other matters will distract us from this main issue.[/quote
And the division of states based on religion and languages is as big a mistake as personal law. All these divisions and sub-divisions only benefit the political parties but people in general feel more divided and find reasons to hate each other. And there is no reason to keep reservation going on as it perhaps making the beneficiaries the ultimate losers. They want everything lying down.
So far there is difference among Indians on article 370, many Indians want privilege status to JK, if so, then it is continuing and will continue and JK will be continue to be a cancerous tissue to Indians, that will hurt and give pain for generations to come, but what is surprisingly many secular parties, mostly who favors minorities, are considering this as a religion issue, in what way article 370 is becoming a religious issues could not comprehend.Indian law is saying on paternal property all siblings irrespective of genders have equal rights to property, and this does not apply to JK. Secondly, if a Kashmir girl marries Rajastani, she became Rajastani, but why she should lose her rights to buy a property at JK, I am not talking here abt, abcestral property but real estate property at JK, if she wishes, she cannot buy it, Ladakh has four times land of Kashmir, but it has only one MP seat, as due to article 370, resettlement of Lok sabha constituency cannot be done. Why 60 percentages of JK's SC and STs (out of all population there )will not get reservation quota, as rest of Indians? why there is differentiation,I am not talking abt. ancestral properties, if a JK girl marries a person outside JK permanent resident, then she cannot buy a land at JK, just like rest of we Indians. But it is not the case with males of JK. CM of JK married to a British lady, still he can buy new properties in JK, but his sister, married to Sachin Pilot, who is from Rajastan, and she cannot buy a single foot in JK. It is according to article 370. In JK the percentages of SC and ST is 60 or 70 % but sadly they are not entitled for reservation in jobs, of India or in JK, due to article 370, all these are negatives, and these can be amended, if not removed, it is not a constitutional amendment. simple executive order can modify some provisions.BJP is leaving no chance of kicking up controversy in the states where it is not in power. It is trying to create as much confusion as possible in the minds of voters and reap its fruit. In this way it is proving it has nothing positive to offer. It is showing its desperation in using insulting language and making personal attack on the leadership of its opponent parties. In indulging in such tactics it is losing its goodwill among many people who otherwise would have supported it.
Article 370 is just another point on which it wants to rake up dust. Does it have policies to develop the state, create jobs, build up infrastructure to provide better healthcare and education? What are its plans to make the state free from bloodshed and take it on the path of progress? These are the topics on which intelligent citizens want to know its plan.
But they do not adress intelligent citizens. They just make mob management and media management and create the impressiuon that they are just coming to power. Similar exercise was made in the past also under slogan of 'India shining'. In fact, both major parties are corrupt. Everyone knows of what the main opposition party ruled states in Karnataka and Uttar Pradesh did. Now both so called main stream parties have lost ground in Uttar Pradesh so that only Bahujan Samaj Party and Samajvadi party are relevant.
They have asked for discussions on this article, as one has to diagnosis whether this article is giving prudent benefit to JK or not, it is the only state where if girls marry outside state will lose rights of property. There may be negatives abt. it, the mere what the govt. of the day saying by simple discussion on it is going to hurt JK is point not approved by many. If it is giving riche benefits then continue with it, what abt, the other way round, time to ponder upon.
Actually the differentiation between man and woman is not so much a matter directly flowing for Article 370. This is owing to social norms. A woman gets title and other facilities from her husband whereas husband retains his original title and status. Hence a woman married to some one outside Jammu & Kashmir will get status of her husband. I remember that Dr. Karan singh's sister Ratna was married to Nepal King Mahendra. Thus she became maharani of Nepal and acquired new status.
Here are some comments on the article by J & K leaders:
http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report-national-conference-people-s-democratic-party-warn-against-any-tampering-1928641
The society in j & K also is patriarchal society. So a woman married to somebody outside will go to reside outside and lose connection with her home state. This is everywhere. A Kashmiri woman married to a Rajasthani is Rajasthani and not kashmiri. why make fuss about this. A man does not go anywhere but remains in his parent home and so retains privileges in his home. A Kashmiri marrying a non Kashmiri woman remains in his home in kashmir and so wil be entitled to the privilege. This is so simple. This is more a gender issue. If any change is necessary, it is for j & K government and their assembly to consider.
Succession is a matter of personal law. There is no uniform personal law in India. There is separate law for Hindus, Muslims and Christians. tribal follow seprate customs. Even Hindus have two different branches- Dayabhag and Mitakshara. So if there is some different personal law in kashmir, this is no issue.
It is where we have actually erred. We should not be having personal laws of different religious groups or communities and there should be a rational debate on this issue. Here again we play safe by perpetuating status quo.
Here I agree. There can be debate on uniform law on succession and family matters. This issue is different. Article 370 is essentially an issue of relation between Indian Union and the state of J & K. Roping in other matters will distract us from this main issue.
So far there is difference among Indians on article 370, many Indians want privilege status to JK, if so, then it is continuing and will continue and JK will be continue to be a cancerous tissue to Indians, that will hurt and give pain for generations to come, but what is surprisingly many secular parties, mostly who favors minorities, are considering this as a religion issue, in what way article 370 is becoming a religious issues could not comprehend.Indian law is saying on paternal property all siblings irrespective of genders have equal rights to property, and this does not apply to JK. Secondly, if a Kashmir girl marries Rajastani, she became Rajastani, but why she should lose her rights to buy a property at JK, I am not talking here abt, abcestral property but real estate property at JK, if she wishes, she cannot buy it, Ladakh has four times land of Kashmir, but it has only one MP seat, as due to article 370, resettlement of Lok sabha constituency cannot be done. Why 60 percentages of JK's SC and STs (out of all population there )will not get reservation quota, as rest of Indians? why there is differentiation,I am not talking abt. ancestral properties, if a JK girl marries a person outside JK permanent resident, then she cannot buy a land at JK, just like rest of we Indians. But it is not the case with males of JK. CM of JK married to a British lady, still he can buy new properties in JK, but his sister, married to Sachin Pilot, who is from Rajastan, and she cannot buy a single foot in JK. It is according to article 370. In JK the percentages of SC and ST is 60 or 70 % but sadly they are not entitled for reservation in jobs, of India or in JK, due to article 370, all these are negatives, and these can be amended, if not removed, it is not a constitutional amendment. simple executive order can modify some provisions.BJP is leaving no chance of kicking up controversy in the states where it is not in power. It is trying to create as much confusion as possible in the minds of voters and reap its fruit. In this way it is proving it has nothing positive to offer. It is showing its desperation in using insulting language and making personal attack on the leadership of its opponent parties. In indulging in such tactics it is losing its goodwill among many people who otherwise would have supported it.
Article 370 is just another point on which it wants to rake up dust. Does it have policies to develop the state, create jobs, build up infrastructure to provide better healthcare and education? What are its plans to make the state free from bloodshed and take it on the path of progress? These are the topics on which intelligent citizens want to know its plan.
But they do not adress intelligent citizens. They just make mob management and media management and create the impressiuon that they are just coming to power. Similar exercise was made in the past also under slogan of 'India shining'. In fact, both major parties are corrupt. Everyone knows of what the main opposition party ruled states in Karnataka and Uttar Pradesh did. Now both so called main stream parties have lost ground in Uttar Pradesh so that only Bahujan Samaj Party and Samajvadi party are relevant.
They have asked for discussions on this article, as one has to diagnosis whether this article is giving prudent benefit to JK or not, it is the only state where if girls marry outside state will lose rights of property. There may be negatives abt. it, the mere what the govt. of the day saying by simple discussion on it is going to hurt JK is point not approved by many. If it is giving riche benefits then continue with it, what abt, the other way round, time to ponder upon.
Actually the differentiation between man and woman is not so much a matter directly flowing for Article 370. This is owing to social norms. A woman gets title and other facilities from her husband whereas husband retains his original title and status. Hence a woman married to some one outside Jammu & Kashmir will get status of her husband. I remember that Dr. Karan singh's sister Ratna was married to Nepal King Mahendra. Thus she became maharani of Nepal and acquired new status.
Here are some comments on the article by J & K leaders:
http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report-national-conference-people-s-democratic-party-warn-against-any-tampering-1928641
The society in j & K also is patriarchal society. So a woman married to somebody outside will go to reside outside and lose connection with her home state. This is everywhere. A Kashmiri woman married to a Rajasthani is Rajasthani and not kashmiri. why make fuss about this. A man does not go anywhere but remains in his parent home and so retains privileges in his home. A Kashmiri marrying a non Kashmiri woman remains in his home in kashmir and so wil be entitled to the privilege. This is so simple. This is more a gender issue. If any change is necessary, it is for j & K government and their assembly to consider.
Succession is a matter of personal law. There is no uniform personal law in India. There is separate law for Hindus, Muslims and Christians. tribal follow seprate customs. Even Hindus have two different branches- Dayabhag and Mitakshara. So if there is some different personal law in kashmir, this is no issue.
It is where we have actually erred. We should not be having personal laws of different religious groups or communities and there should be a rational debate on this issue. Here again we play safe by perpetuating status quo.
Here I agree. There can be debate on uniform law on succession and family matters. This issue is different. Article 370 is essentially an issue of relation between Indian Union and the state of J & K. Roping in other matters will distract us from this main issue.
In Federal structure its basic principles should be the same for all and Article 370 might have been devised to take care of the extraordinary situation prevailing at the time of its annexation but never contemplated to be a permanent feature. It is virtually accepting 'Two Nation' theory!!
I agree with most discussions here, as divisions based on linguistics, is not admissible for creation of states, as well as support to any religions such as majority or minorities and why parties who are supporting minorities are called secular, the word itself is very much debatable,
I agree with most discussions here, as divisions based on linguistics, is not admissible for creation of states, as well as support to any religions such as majority or minorities and why parties who are supporting minorities are called secular, the word itself is very much debatable,
This is pure vote bank politics which was made famous by the Congress party ! Now parties like SP and JDU are leaning on this secular card.t is in name only and if we are to see the plight of the minorities except for some minor benefits they have not come up at all.Instead of concentrating on bringing them into the mainfold instead of dividing them, all that the government is doing is encouraging separatist groups and terrorists ...
I agree with most discussions here, as divisions based on linguistics, is not admissible for creation of states, as well as support to any religions such as majority or minorities and why parties who are supporting minorities are called secular, the word itself is very much debatable,
This is pure vote bank politics which was made famous by the Congress party ! Now parties like SP and JDU are leaning on this secular card.t is in name only and if we are to see the plight of the minorities except for some minor benefits they have not come up at all.Instead of concentrating on bringing them into the mainfold instead of dividing them, all that the government is doing is encouraging separatist groups and terrorists ...
Even the Telengana issue has been ruthlessly exploited by this party for its narrow political ends!!
Surprised to see the entire change of attitude of JDU, the same party was earlier with BJP, if we compare this situation with Odisha, once BJD and BJP are one and on the same when they parted, BJD does not become so called secular, it remains steady and normal, but the way JDU is behaving like UPA could not understand what is the reason behind this.I agree with most discussions here, as divisions based on linguistics, is not admissible for creation of states, as well as support to any religions such as majority or minorities and why parties who are supporting minorities are called secular, the word itself is very much debatable,
This is pure vote bank politics which was made famous by the Congress party ! Now parties like SP and JDU are leaning on this secular card.t is in name only and if we are to see the plight of the minorities except for some minor benefits they have not come up at all.Instead of concentrating on bringing them into the mainfold instead of dividing them, all that the government is doing is encouraging separatist groups and terrorists ...
Surprised to see the entire change of attitude of JDU, the same party was earlier with BJP, if we compare this situation with Odisha, once BJD and BJP are one and on the same when they parted, BJD does not become so called secular, it remains steady and normal, but the way JDU is behaving like UPA could not understand what is the reason behind this.I agree with most discussions here, as divisions based on linguistics, is not admissible for creation of states, as well as support to any religions such as majority or minorities and why parties who are supporting minorities are called secular, the word itself is very much debatable,
This is pure vote bank politics which was made famous by the Congress party ! Now parties like SP and JDU are leaning on this secular card.t is in name only and if we are to see the plight of the minorities except for some minor benefits they have not come up at all.Instead of concentrating on bringing them into the mainfold instead of dividing them, all that the government is doing is encouraging separatist groups and terrorists ...
JD(U) is basically a party of Bihar and Nitish Kumar after tasting heady success at the hustings, has started lording over others and this party's parting with BJP is purely an ego-clash between Modi and Nitish. It has nothing to do with any principle.
The Article 370 is based on treaty between Indian union and the King of J & K. Now neither the monarchy nor the constuent assembly of J & K exist. Undountedly j & k is inseparable part of India. There should be no difficulty in removing or altering article 370. If this is an issue, this could be between India and the monarchy that no longer exists. It is worthwhile to rememebr that all kashmiris including the ex monarch namely Dr. karan singh are citizens of India. Moreover, the ex monarch Dr. karan singh has been union minister. The popular Kashmiri politicianFfarukh Abdullah is union minister. I wonder who is there to challnge Kashmir's merger with India. Now Kashmir is part of India like any other state. Those thinking otherwise are day dreamers.
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