Is it necessary to set a minimum qualification of our politicians to qualify for elections? It can be different for different seats for different elections.
We can set high school for local bodies and for state and national elections a degree in any subject. Do we have enough degree holders in our parliament and state assemblies? Any idea of education of your local MP or MLA?
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Is it necessary to set a minimum qualification of our politicians to qualify for elections? It can be different for different seats for different elections.
We can set high school for local bodies and for state and national elections a degree in any subject. Do we have enough degree holders in our parliament and state assemblies? Any idea of education of your local MP or MLA?
Former of Chief Minister of Tmailnadu, Mr. Kamaraj played a vital role inspiteof being illliterate. He introduced the Free noon meal scheme in all the schools because he knew the importance of education.
Free meals may sound free but these cost a lot to everyone including the ones who are beneficiary of those freebies. If they had spent that amount for infrastructure honestly, that would have changed the fate of this country. Free meals, laptops, sarees are nothing but kind of bribes and ensuring future voters.
I agree with you absolutely. All freebie schemes should be stopped. 30 years back, free noon meal sheme made lakhs of people educated. But now it needs to be reconsidered.
Is it necessary to set a minimum qualification of our politicians to qualify for elections? It can be different for different seats for different elections.
We can set high school for local bodies and for state and national elections a degree in any subject. Do we have enough degree holders in our parliament and state assemblies? Any idea of education of your local MP or MLA?
Former of Chief Minister of Tmailnadu, Mr. Kamaraj played a vital role inspiteof being illliterate. He introduced the Free noon meal scheme in all the schools because he knew the importance of education.
Free meals may sound free but these cost a lot to everyone including the ones who are beneficiary of those freebies. If they had spent that amount for infrastructure honestly, that would have changed the fate of this country. Free meals, laptops, sarees are nothing but kind of bribes and ensuring future voters.
I agree with you absolutely. All freebie schemes should be stopped. 30 years back, free noon meal sheme made lakhs of people educated. But now it needs to be reconsidered.
They could have opened more schools when it mattered most to provide chance to have more children educated. The cut throat competition at primary level for admission is bad imagination of illiterate politicians. Children need schools to study, they can manage with their meals.
I think minimum qualification should be graduate on regular basis, a retirement age should be there, as per constitution an entry age of 25 for qualification of MPs so retirement age for politicians as well as lawyers.
I too feel that there should be a retirement age for politicians from active politics or atleast holding high level posts in politics like it is anywhere else...We can see what is happening when we have a 80+ Pm who is probably gone senile and is being used like a puppet..
I think minimum qualification should be graduate on regular basis, a retirement age should be there, as per constitution an entry age of 25 for qualification of MPs so retirement age for politicians as well as lawyers.
I too feel that there should be a retirement age for politicians from active politics or atleast holding high level posts in politics like it is anywhere else...We can see what is happening when we have a 80+ Pm who is probably gone senile and is being used like a puppet..
It would be better if politicians have reitrement age. Atleast they should get retired by 70years. Prime Minister who is more than 70 years can not work efficiently. Theperson above 70 is not the efficient person to lead the nation.
I think minimum qualification should be graduate on regular basis, a retirement age should be there, as per constitution an entry age of 25 for qualification of MPs so retirement age for politicians as well as lawyers.
I too feel that there should be a retirement age for politicians from active politics or atleast holding high level posts in politics like it is anywhere else...We can see what is happening when we have a 80+ Pm who is probably gone senile and is being used like a puppet..
But that can happen to a 40 years old as well, just in case. And you know what I mean so age is not that important as long he is good to deal with situations. :laugh:
Age does not matter even a person in his thirties is far more incapable than a person in sixties, but the question here is , service holders retire after certain age, they why cannot lawyers and politicians?I think minimum qualification should be graduate on regular basis, a retirement age should be there, as per constitution an entry age of 25 for qualification of MPs so retirement age for politicians as well as lawyers.
I too feel that there should be a retirement age for politicians from active politics or atleast holding high level posts in politics like it is anywhere else...We can see what is happening when we have a 80+ Pm who is probably gone senile and is being used like a puppet..
But that can happen to a 40 years old as well, just in case. And you know what I mean so age is not that important as long he is good to deal with situations. :laugh:
Age does not matter even a person in his thirties is far more incapable than a person in sixties, but the question here is , service holders retire after certain age, they why cannot lawyers and politicians?I think minimum qualification should be graduate on regular basis, a retirement age should be there, as per constitution an entry age of 25 for qualification of MPs so retirement age for politicians as well as lawyers.
I too feel that there should be a retirement age for politicians from active politics or atleast holding high level posts in politics like it is anywhere else...We can see what is happening when we have a 80+ Pm who is probably gone senile and is being used like a puppet..
But that can happen to a 40 years old as well, just in case. And you know what I mean so age is not that important as long he is good to deal with situations. :laugh:
Lawyers are professional being engaged on merit basis, politicians are also the same, they make efforts to reach on their self powers, be it money, fire power or, public support. Employees work under a predefined service condition therefore retire as per their terms demand them to. There is no upper age limit for self employed yet . same is applicable for shop keepers and other businessmen. They only retire voluntarily.
When an individual in the normal course of events reaches the highest cadre , being the central ministry and also a probable PM he or she would have gone through a lot of hard work and come face to face with people and their problems, which has not been the case with our now PM , who looks and behaves as if he is in a trance most of the time...Similarly the one the congress party is trying to thrust on the nation is anything but committed except carrying the family name on his forehead.So age here really doesnt play any part ! What is needed is a rounded personality with age and experience and more than anythig a clean record...
When an individual in the normal course of events reaches the highest cadre , being the central ministry and also a probable PM he or she would have gone through a lot of hard work and come face to face with people and their problems, which has not been the case with our now PM , who looks and behaves as if he is in a trance most of the time...Similarly the one the congress party is trying to thrust on the nation is anything but committed except carrying the family name on his forehead.So age here really doesnt play any part ! What is needed is a rounded personality with age and experience and more than anythig a clean record...
The P.M. has undoubtedly a very long record of government service at top level and also handling finance portfolio in union cabinet and later as Prime minister. The performance of government is collective responsibility of ruling party leadership and union cabinet. We are in habit of talking about individuals only- Sonia Gandhi, Manbmohan Singh, Rahul Gandhi, Modi, Advani and so on. Nobody bothers about responsibility of organization. Many may like Congress under Rahul and not somebody else. Same is in BJP where not the organization and collective responsibility but one man- Modi or Advani or who else- is the issue.
When an individual in the normal course of events reaches the highest cadre , being the central ministry and also a probable PM he or she would have gone through a lot of hard work and come face to face with people and their problems, which has not been the case with our now PM , who looks and behaves as if he is in a trance most of the time...Similarly the one the congress party is trying to thrust on the nation is anything but committed except carrying the family name on his forehead.So age here really doesnt play any part ! What is needed is a rounded personality with age and experience and more than anythig a clean record...
Our present PM is proxy. Indeed control of government and congress party both are in hand of Sonia Gandhi. It is rule that proxy can attend meeting but they cann't vote. It is situation of Sardar ji.
When an individual in the normal course of events reaches the highest cadre , being the central ministry and also a probable PM he or she would have gone through a lot of hard work and come face to face with people and their problems, which has not been the case with our now PM , who looks and behaves as if he is in a trance most of the time...Similarly the one the congress party is trying to thrust on the nation is anything but committed except carrying the family name on his forehead.So age here really doesnt play any part ! What is needed is a rounded personality with age and experience and more than anythig a clean record...
The P.M. has undoubtedly a very long record of government service at top level and also handling finance portfolio in union cabinet and later as Prime minister. The performance of government is collective responsibility of ruling party leadership and union cabinet. We are in habit of talking about individuals only- Sonia Gandhi, Manbmohan Singh, Rahul Gandhi, Modi, Advani and so on. Nobody bothers about responsibility of organization. Many may like Congress under Rahul and not somebody else. Same is in BJP where not the organization and collective responsibility but one man- Modi or Advani or who else- is the issue.
Manmohan Singh no doubt has a long record of government service at top level and finance ministry but has never been a people man, since he has never been elected by people , not having contested an ellection ! It is essential for the leader of the country to be people friendly instead of mumbling when he feels like....
When an individual in the normal course of events reaches the highest cadre , being the central ministry and also a probable PM he or she would have gone through a lot of hard work and come face to face with people and their problems, which has not been the case with our now PM , who looks and behaves as if he is in a trance most of the time...Similarly the one the congress party is trying to thrust on the nation is anything but committed except carrying the family name on his forehead.So age here really doesnt play any part ! What is needed is a rounded personality with age and experience and more than anythig a clean record...
Our present PM is proxy. Indeed control of government and congress party both are in hand of Sonia Gandhi. It is rule that proxy can attend meeting but they cann't vote. It is situation of Sardar ji.
Perhaps this is an open secret now, so there is no use telling it even to a child.
When an individual in the normal course of events reaches the highest cadre , being the central ministry and also a probable PM he or she would have gone through a lot of hard work and come face to face with people and their problems, which has not been the case with our now PM , who looks and behaves as if he is in a trance most of the time...Similarly the one the congress party is trying to thrust on the nation is anything but committed except carrying the family name on his forehead.So age here really doesnt play any part ! What is needed is a rounded personality with age and experience and more than anythig a clean record...
Our present PM is proxy. Indeed control of government and congress party both are in hand of Sonia Gandhi. It is rule that proxy can attend meeting but they cann't vote. It is situation of Sardar ji.
Perhaps this is an open secret now, so there is no use telling it even to a child.
Main criteria for becomiong the politician should be this one - The person should be service minded, not the selfish one.
When an individual in the normal course of events reaches the highest cadre , being the central ministry and also a probable PM he or she would have gone through a lot of hard work and come face to face with people and their problems, which has not been the case with our now PM , who looks and behaves as if he is in a trance most of the time...Similarly the one the congress party is trying to thrust on the nation is anything but committed except carrying the family name on his forehead.So age here really doesnt play any part ! What is needed is a rounded personality with age and experience and more than anythig a clean record...
The P.M. has undoubtedly a very long record of government service at top level and also handling finance portfolio in union cabinet and later as Prime minister. The performance of government is collective responsibility of ruling party leadership and union cabinet. We are in habit of talking about individuals only- Sonia Gandhi, Manbmohan Singh, Rahul Gandhi, Modi, Advani and so on. Nobody bothers about responsibility of organization. Many may like Congress under Rahul and not somebody else. Same is in BJP where not the organization and collective responsibility but one man- Modi or Advani or who else- is the issue.
Manmohan Singh no doubt has a long record of government service at top level and finance ministry but has never been a people man, since he has never been elected by people , not having contested an ellection ! It is essential for the leader of the country to be people friendly instead of mumbling when he feels like....
A case of misuse of a person who was one of the best in his field.
When an individual in the normal course of events reaches the highest cadre , being the central ministry and also a probable PM he or she would have gone through a lot of hard work and come face to face with people and their problems, which has not been the case with our now PM , who looks and behaves as if he is in a trance most of the time...Similarly the one the congress party is trying to thrust on the nation is anything but committed except carrying the family name on his forehead.So age here really doesnt play any part ! What is needed is a rounded personality with age and experience and more than anythig a clean record...
The P.M. has undoubtedly a very long record of government service at top level and also handling finance portfolio in union cabinet and later as Prime minister. The performance of government is collective responsibility of ruling party leadership and union cabinet. We are in habit of talking about individuals only- Sonia Gandhi, Manbmohan Singh, Rahul Gandhi, Modi, Advani and so on. Nobody bothers about responsibility of organization. Many may like Congress under Rahul and not somebody else. Same is in BJP where not the organization and collective responsibility but one man- Modi or Advani or who else- is the issue.
Manmohan Singh no doubt has a long record of government service at top level and finance ministry but has never been a people man, since he has never been elected by people , not having contested an ellection ! It is essential for the leader of the country to be people friendly instead of mumbling when he feels like....
A case of misuse of a person who was one of the best in his field.
A worthy and brilliant person like Manmohan Singh should get away from the cess pool of corruption. A person who was instrumental in bringing out economic reforms that helped the country in a big way should know that his honesty is misused by the people around him .
When an individual in the normal course of events reaches the highest cadre , being the central ministry and also a probable PM he or she would have gone through a lot of hard work and come face to face with people and their problems, which has not been the case with our now PM , who looks and behaves as if he is in a trance most of the time...Similarly the one the congress party is trying to thrust on the nation is anything but committed except carrying the family name on his forehead.So age here really doesnt play any part ! What is needed is a rounded personality with age and experience and more than anythig a clean record...
The P.M. has undoubtedly a very long record of government service at top level and also handling finance portfolio in union cabinet and later as Prime minister. The performance of government is collective responsibility of ruling party leadership and union cabinet. We are in habit of talking about individuals only- Sonia Gandhi, Manbmohan Singh, Rahul Gandhi, Modi, Advani and so on. Nobody bothers about responsibility of organization. Many may like Congress under Rahul and not somebody else. Same is in BJP where not the organization and collective responsibility but one man- Modi or Advani or who else- is the issue.
Manmohan Singh no doubt has a long record of government service at top level and finance ministry but has never been a people man, since he has never been elected by people , not having contested an ellection ! It is essential for the leader of the country to be people friendly instead of mumbling when he feels like....
A case of misuse of a person who was one of the best in his field.
A worthy and brilliant person like Manmohan Singh should get away from the cess pool of corruption. A person who was instrumental in bringing out economic reforms that helped the country in a big way should know that his honesty is misused by the people around him .
Nobody can prevent such 'misuse'. Actually we expect too much from a single person. This is our tradition. when we are in difficulty, we always hope that some 'avatar' or 'Savior' God- incarnation would save us. Many expect that 'Modi' or 'Rahul' would perform miracles. There is need for collective responsibility and giving more importance to organization and avoid personality cult. It is personality cult that gives rise to many issues including corruption.
When an individual in the normal course of events reaches the highest cadre , being the central ministry and also a probable PM he or she would have gone through a lot of hard work and come face to face with people and their problems, which has not been the case with our now PM , who looks and behaves as if he is in a trance most of the time...Similarly the one the congress party is trying to thrust on the nation is anything but committed except carrying the family name on his forehead.So age here really doesnt play any part ! What is needed is a rounded personality with age and experience and more than anythig a clean record...
The P.M. has undoubtedly a very long record of government service at top level and also handling finance portfolio in union cabinet and later as Prime minister. The performance of government is collective responsibility of ruling party leadership and union cabinet. We are in habit of talking about individuals only- Sonia Gandhi, Manbmohan Singh, Rahul Gandhi, Modi, Advani and so on. Nobody bothers about responsibility of organization. Many may like Congress under Rahul and not somebody else. Same is in BJP where not the organization and collective responsibility but one man- Modi or Advani or who else- is the issue.
Manmohan Singh no doubt has a long record of government service at top level and finance ministry but has never been a people man, since he has never been elected by people , not having contested an ellection ! It is essential for the leader of the country to be people friendly instead of mumbling when he feels like....
A case of misuse of a person who was one of the best in his field.
A worthy and brilliant person like Manmohan Singh should get away from the cess pool of corruption. A person who was instrumental in bringing out economic reforms that helped the country in a big way should know that his honesty is misused by the people around him .
Nobody can prevent such 'misuse'. Actually we expect too much from a single person. This is our tradition. when we are in difficulty, we always hope that some 'avatar' or 'Savior' God- incarnation would save us. Many expect that 'Modi' or 'Rahul' would perform miracles. There is need for collective responsibility and giving more importance to organization and avoid personality cult. It is personality cult that gives rise to many issues including corruption.
Yes we expect that much from a person if he happens to be PM of this country. If it was not an important post, we did not need a PM but 'all ministers' could do the job. Every country has a head of government and he is responsible for everything..
It is the council of ministers that is responsible for all decisions headed by prime minister, ours is the parliamentary form of government, nevertheless many elections are fought on the basis of personality from the time Nehru, Indira Gandhi, Rajiv and Vajpayee, now Modi and Rahul, it is one of the most keenly contested election as there are many issues out there.
It is the council of ministers that is responsible for all decisions headed by prime minister, ours is the parliamentary form of government, nevertheless many elections are fought on the basis of personality from the time Nehru, Indira Gandhi, Rajiv and Vajpayee, now Modi and Rahul, it is one of the most keenly contested election as there are many issues out there.
I know it is parliamentary form in our country but we are doing everything un-parliamentary here. That is the reason we needed this thread. I don't think there is a contest of principles here but it is persons, cast, tribes and personal influence in our election system. You never know the result as it is not on set norms. The agenda which sounds most important today, suddenly might fly away into thin air on election day.
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