Leaving my work aside, I would like to first start this discussion to ask you a very important thing.
The lawyer of the four accused in the 16/12 gang rape case said that he does not welcome the decision of hanging his clients. This is alright. But what he said next was horrifying. He said that he would not appeal in the higher court if no such crime takes place in India or Delhi again. and that the Delhi court is under the government pressure Isn't that a stupid and irresponsible statement from a lawyer? Everyone know the four are accused of various crimes and on what basis was the lawyer going to defend and still advocate them? ALL STUPIDITY??
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Leaving my work aside, I would like to first start this discussion to ask you a very important thing.
The lawyer of the four accused in the 16/12 gang rape case said that he does not welcome the decision of hanging his clients. This is alright. But what he said next was horrifying. He said that he would not appeal in the higher court if no such crime takes place in India or Delhi again. and that the Delhi court is under the government pressure Isn't that a stupid and irresponsible statement from a lawyer? Everyone know the four are accused of various crimes and on what basis was the lawyer going to defend and still advocate them? ALL STUPIDITY??
This is a standard format of any lawyer who loses his case.Its waste of time to give a hearing to such comments. Heartening thing is all the four got death.
Leaving my work aside, I would like to first start this discussion to ask you a very important thing.
The lawyer of the four accused in the 16/12 gang rape case said that he does not welcome the decision of hanging his clients. This is alright. But what he said next was horrifying. He said that he would not appeal in the higher court if no such crime takes place in India or Delhi again. and that the Delhi court is under the government pressure Isn't that a stupid and irresponsible statement from a lawyer? Everyone know the four are accused of various crimes and on what basis was the lawyer going to defend and still advocate them? ALL STUPIDITY??
This is a standard format of any lawyer who loses his case.Its waste of time to give a hearing to such comments. Heartening thing is all the four got death.
And I don't think the higher courts will overrule the verdict of the district court. The capital punishment is going to stay.
Leaving my work aside, I would like to first start this discussion to ask you a very important thing.
The lawyer of the four accused in the 16/12 gang rape case said that he does not welcome the decision of hanging his clients. This is alright. But what he said next was horrifying. He said that he would not appeal in the higher court if no such crime takes place in India or Delhi again. and that the Delhi court is under the government pressure Isn't that a stupid and irresponsible statement from a lawyer? Everyone know the four are accused of various crimes and on what basis was the lawyer going to defend and still advocate them? ALL STUPIDITY??
This is a standard format of any lawyer who loses his case.Its waste of time to give a hearing to such comments. Heartening thing is all the four got death.
And I don't think the higher courts will overrule the verdict of the district court. The capital punishment is going to stay.
That is all we can hope and keep our fingers crossed till all the four are hanged.
I am not aware of lawyer's version yet but if he said so, I think lawyer should keep himself in place of victim's father before issuing such a statement
He is a responsible person today and a statement from such a person and that too something like in a rage is totally unacceptbale.
The defence lawyers did not give any arguments that would be in accordance with law. Reference to Gandhi and the statement - God alone gives life and man has no right to take life- are simply ridiculous. Now they say that the verdict is political one and that if there is any other similar case after this sentence, they will file appeal. This is most insensible. It appears that the defence lawyers have lost sense of logic.
The convicts have been sentenced to death as their cases are 'rarest of the rare' on account of cruelty and consequent death of the victim in most critical condition. The defence advocates have not given any argument in accordance with law as this stands.
The convicts have been sentenced to death as their cases are 'rarest of the rare' on account of cruelty and consequent death of the victim in most critical condition. The defence advocates have not given any argument in accordance with law as this stands.
The defence lawyers did not give any arguments that would be in accordance with law. Reference to Gandhi and the statement - God alone gives life and man has no right to take life- are simply ridiculous. Now they say that the verdict is political one and that if there is any other similar case after this sentence, they will file appeal. This is most insensible. It appears that the defence lawyers have lost sense of logic.
The convicts have been sentenced to death as their cases are 'rarest of the rare' on account of cruelty and consequent death of the victim in most critical condition. The defence advocates have not given any argument in accordance with law as this stands.
It will also become the rarest of the rare case if the high court happens to overrule the verdict of the district court, though in all probabilities that will never happen.
Leaving my work aside, I would like to first start this discussion to ask you a very important thing.
The lawyer of the four accused in the 16/12 gang rape case said that he does not welcome the decision of hanging his clients. This is alright. But what he said next was horrifying. He said that he would not appeal in the higher court if no such crime takes place in India or Delhi again. and that the Delhi court is under the government pressure Isn't that a stupid and irresponsible statement from a lawyer? Everyone know the four are accused of various crimes and on what basis was the lawyer going to defend and still advocate them? ALL STUPIDITY??
It is my question to this intelligent advocate can you assured that if court free them or sentence them life impriosnment that no sucj crime take place in India and Delhi. They all six crossed the limit of gothicism. They should be hang till the death for more than 10000 times. I think this advocate have not daughter, sister.
A defence lawyer has a job to do and he is doing to the best of his ability knowing fully well what his clients are ....Having said that , in most cases , normally the higher courts dont overrule the judgment given by the lower courts unless it is biased , which is not the case here ! In a way I feel pity for the defense lawyer since he will be hated by everyone the moment he says anything in favor of his clients !
Leaving my work aside, I would like to first start this discussion to ask you a very important thing.
The lawyer of the four accused in the 16/12 gang rape case said that he does not welcome the decision of hanging his clients. This is alright. But what he said next was horrifying. He said that he would not appeal in the higher court if no such crime takes place in India or Delhi again. and that the Delhi court is under the government pressure Isn't that a stupid and irresponsible statement from a lawyer? Everyone know the four are accused of various crimes and on what basis was the lawyer going to defend and still advocate them? ALL STUPIDITY??
It is my question to this intelligent advocate can you assured that if court free them or sentence them life impriosnment that no sucj crime take place in India and Delhi. They all six crossed the limit of gothicism. They should be hang till the death for more than 10000 times. I think this advocate have not daughter, sister.
That's a valid point. The lawyer could be asked this question if the 4 aren't given capital punishment - as he is asking for - will he say that the rapes won't happen? I think you should have been a lawyer yourself.
Apparently when the verdict was read out the defense lawyer was so angry that he screamed at the judge calling out Asatymeva Jayate...He also has gone on to tell that if his daughter had illicit sex he would kill her ! I can imagine what kind of a husband and father he would be, probably needs counselling as much as the killers do...he also needs to be restrained and taken to task for not respecting the law and the judge !
Apparently when the verdict was read out the defense lawyer was so angry that he screamed at the judge calling out Asatymeva Jayate...He also has gone on to tell that if his daughter had illicit sex he would kill her ! I can imagine what kind of a husband and father he would be, probably needs counselling as much as the killers do...he also needs to be restrained and taken to task for not respecting the law and the judge !
I had just heard his comments outside the court that I had mentioned at the start of the discussion. I didn't know the things you mentioned. I think the judge should take action against him. I don't know on what points was he protecting those criminal rapists.
Leaving my work aside, I would like to first start this discussion to ask you a very important thing.
The lawyer of the four accused in the 16/12 gang rape case said that he does not welcome the decision of hanging his clients. This is alright. But what he said next was horrifying. He said that he would not appeal in the higher court if no such crime takes place in India or Delhi again. and that the Delhi court is under the government pressure Isn't that a stupid and irresponsible statement from a lawyer? Everyone know the four are accused of various crimes and on what basis was the lawyer going to defend and still advocate them? ALL STUPIDITY??
This is a standard format of any lawyer who loses his case.Its waste of time to give a hearing to such comments. Heartening thing is all the four got death.
And I don't think the higher courts will overrule the verdict of the district court. The capital punishment is going to stay.
Every death sentence needs confirmation by High Court. The Delhi police and the Forensic experts have done their job well and successfully prosecuted. It is amply proved that the four convicts had used extreme cruelty in gang rape and killing. Death sentence is appropriate in the circumstances and there is no reason why High Court would not confirm this. This is rarest of rarest case justifying death penalty. However, the convicts have the right to defend themselves through their advocates in High Court.
I also view that the convicts are too poor to get good lawyers. They may not be able to go to supreme Court level.
As regards judicial and criminal law, the chapter appears closed. But we need consider why the relatively poorer sections indulge in such blatant crimes. This is more for sociologists and psychologists to consider.
Leaving my work aside, I would like to first start this discussion to ask you a very important thing.
The lawyer of the four accused in the 16/12 gang rape case said that he does not welcome the decision of hanging his clients. This is alright. But what he said next was horrifying. He said that he would not appeal in the higher court if no such crime takes place in India or Delhi again. and that the Delhi court is under the government pressure Isn't that a stupid and irresponsible statement from a lawyer? Everyone know the four are accused of various crimes and on what basis was the lawyer going to defend and still advocate them? ALL STUPIDITY??
This is a standard format of any lawyer who loses his case.Its waste of time to give a hearing to such comments. Heartening thing is all the four got death.
And I don't think the higher courts will overrule the verdict of the district court. The capital punishment is going to stay.
Every death sentence needs confirmation by High Court. The Delhi police and the Forensic experts have done their job well and successfully prosecuted. It is amply proved that the four convicts had used extreme cruelty in gang rape and killing. Death sentence is appropriate in the circumstances and there is no reason why High Court would not confirm this. This is rarest of rarest case justifying death penalty. However, the convicts have the right to defend themselves through their advocates in High Court.
I also view that the convicts are too poor to get good lawyers. They may not be able to go to supreme Court level.
As regards judicial and criminal law, the chapter appears closed. But we need consider why the relatively poorer sections indulge in such blatant crimes. This is more for sociologists and psychologists to consider.
I too think that the chapter now looks closed, no matter however high profile lawyer fights the case. If this is the rareest of the rare case, then the high court or even the supreme court won't overrule the death penalty.
Leaving my work aside, I would like to first start this discussion to ask you a very important thing.
The lawyer of the four accused in the 16/12 gang rape case said that he does not welcome the decision of hanging his clients. This is alright. But what he said next was horrifying. He said that he would not appeal in the higher court if no such crime takes place in India or Delhi again. and that the Delhi court is under the government pressure Isn't that a stupid and irresponsible statement from a lawyer? Everyone know the four are accused of various crimes and on what basis was the lawyer going to defend and still advocate them? ALL STUPIDITY??
This is a standard format of any lawyer who loses his case.Its waste of time to give a hearing to such comments. Heartening thing is all the four got death.
And I don't think the higher courts will overrule the verdict of the district court. The capital punishment is going to stay.
Every death sentence needs confirmation by High Court. The Delhi police and the Forensic experts have done their job well and successfully prosecuted. It is amply proved that the four convicts had used extreme cruelty in gang rape and killing. Death sentence is appropriate in the circumstances and there is no reason why High Court would not confirm this. This is rarest of rarest case justifying death penalty. However, the convicts have the right to defend themselves through their advocates in High Court.
I also view that the convicts are too poor to get good lawyers. They may not be able to go to supreme Court level.
As regards judicial and criminal law, the chapter appears closed. But we need consider why the relatively poorer sections indulge in such blatant crimes. This is more for sociologists and psychologists to consider.
I too think that the chapter now looks closed, no matter however high profile lawyer fights the case. If this is the rareest of the rare case, then the high court or even the supreme court won't overrule the death penalty.
The reason for people's skepticism is, there were several incidents in the past in which criminals escaped the net.
Leaving my work aside, I would like to first start this discussion to ask you a very important thing.
The lawyer of the four accused in the 16/12 gang rape case said that he does not welcome the decision of hanging his clients. This is alright. But what he said next was horrifying. He said that he would not appeal in the higher court if no such crime takes place in India or Delhi again. and that the Delhi court is under the government pressure Isn't that a stupid and irresponsible statement from a lawyer? Everyone know the four are accused of various crimes and on what basis was the lawyer going to defend and still advocate them? ALL STUPIDITY??
This is a standard format of any lawyer who loses his case.Its waste of time to give a hearing to such comments. Heartening thing is all the four got death.
And I don't think the higher courts will overrule the verdict of the district court. The capital punishment is going to stay.
Every death sentence needs confirmation by High Court. The Delhi police and the Forensic experts have done their job well and successfully prosecuted. It is amply proved that the four convicts had used extreme cruelty in gang rape and killing. Death sentence is appropriate in the circumstances and there is no reason why High Court would not confirm this. This is rarest of rarest case justifying death penalty. However, the convicts have the right to defend themselves through their advocates in High Court.
I also view that the convicts are too poor to get good lawyers. They may not be able to go to supreme Court level.
As regards judicial and criminal law, the chapter appears closed. But we need consider why the relatively poorer sections indulge in such blatant crimes. This is more for sociologists and psychologists to consider.
I too think that the chapter now looks closed, no matter however high profile lawyer fights the case. If this is the rareest of the rare case, then the high court or even the supreme court won't overrule the death penalty.
The reason for people's skepticism is, there were several incidents in the past in which criminals escaped the net.
One in this case too has successfully escaped it because of technical reasons ( juvenile) which really makes your blood boil...He should have been given at least a life sentence !
Leaving my work aside, I would like to first start this discussion to ask you a very important thing.
The lawyer of the four accused in the 16/12 gang rape case said that he does not welcome the decision of hanging his clients. This is alright. But what he said next was horrifying. He said that he would not appeal in the higher court if no such crime takes place in India or Delhi again. and that the Delhi court is under the government pressure Isn't that a stupid and irresponsible statement from a lawyer? Everyone know the four are accused of various crimes and on what basis was the lawyer going to defend and still advocate them? ALL STUPIDITY??
This is a standard format of any lawyer who loses his case.Its waste of time to give a hearing to such comments. Heartening thing is all the four got death.
And I don't think the higher courts will overrule the verdict of the district court. The capital punishment is going to stay.
Every death sentence needs confirmation by High Court. The Delhi police and the Forensic experts have done their job well and successfully prosecuted. It is amply proved that the four convicts had used extreme cruelty in gang rape and killing. Death sentence is appropriate in the circumstances and there is no reason why High Court would not confirm this. This is rarest of rarest case justifying death penalty. However, the convicts have the right to defend themselves through their advocates in High Court.
I also view that the convicts are too poor to get good lawyers. They may not be able to go to supreme Court level.
As regards judicial and criminal law, the chapter appears closed. But we need consider why the relatively poorer sections indulge in such blatant crimes. This is more for sociologists and psychologists to consider.
I too think that the chapter now looks closed, no matter however high profile lawyer fights the case. If this is the rareest of the rare case, then the high court or even the supreme court won't overrule the death penalty.
The reason for people's skepticism is, there were several incidents in the past in which criminals escaped the net.
One in this case too has successfully escaped it because of technical reasons ( juvenile) which really makes your blood boil...He should have been given at least a life sentence !
The defense also tried to establish that in the remaining four there are two young. And with all said and done, its not the end. A beginning only. Defense is going for an appeal to higher courts. The criminals should not have been given a chance to further appeal.
Leaving my work aside, I would like to first start this discussion to ask you a very important thing.Do not believe in lawyers, they can reach to any extent to defend their clients, after hearing about the sufferings they have given to innocent girl, it is useless to give such speeches on the part of defense lawyer, I think the court said it is a rarest of rare cases, and the answer to this is death, death sentence is rare, but this incident is a rarity, so they deserve it though this case would be going to different court and then president assent they a long way to go but we are on track.
The lawyer of the four accused in the 16/12 gang rape case said that he does not welcome the decision of hanging his clients. This is alright. But what he said next was horrifying. He said that he would not appeal in the higher court if no such crime takes place in India or Delhi again. and that the Delhi court is under the government pressure Isn't that a stupid and irresponsible statement from a lawyer? Everyone know the four are accused of various crimes and on what basis was the lawyer going to defend and still advocate them? ALL STUPIDITY??
Leaving my work aside, I would like to first start this discussion to ask you a very important thing.Do not believe in lawyers, they can reach to any extent to defend their clients, after hearing about the sufferings they have given to innocent girl, it is useless to give such speeches on the part of defense lawyer, I think the court said it is a rarest of rare cases, and the answer to this is death, death sentence is rare, but this incident is a rarity, so they deserve it though this case would be going to different court and then president assent they a long way to go but we are on track.
The lawyer of the four accused in the 16/12 gang rape case said that he does not welcome the decision of hanging his clients. This is alright. But what he said next was horrifying. He said that he would not appeal in the higher court if no such crime takes place in India or Delhi again. and that the Delhi court is under the government pressure Isn't that a stupid and irresponsible statement from a lawyer? Everyone know the four are accused of various crimes and on what basis was the lawyer going to defend and still advocate them? ALL STUPIDITY??
The sole aim of the defense is to delay the inevitable. Not to stop the inevitable.
Leaving my work aside, I would like to first start this discussion to ask you a very important thing.Do not believe in lawyers, they can reach to any extent to defend their clients, after hearing about the sufferings they have given to innocent girl, it is useless to give such speeches on the part of defense lawyer, I think the court said it is a rarest of rare cases, and the answer to this is death, death sentence is rare, but this incident is a rarity, so they deserve it though this case would be going to different court and then president assent they a long way to go but we are on track.
The lawyer of the four accused in the 16/12 gang rape case said that he does not welcome the decision of hanging his clients. This is alright. But what he said next was horrifying. He said that he would not appeal in the higher court if no such crime takes place in India or Delhi again. and that the Delhi court is under the government pressure Isn't that a stupid and irresponsible statement from a lawyer? Everyone know the four are accused of various crimes and on what basis was the lawyer going to defend and still advocate them? ALL STUPIDITY??
There is need to hang everyone found guilty in rape cases, there is no place for mercy to such an offender. The woman who tolerated such people almost went through the death herself, some of them did not die during the act but committed suicide or went through hell. I do not call this one but all such cases a shame on us. All such people deserve death, nothing less.
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