A Sikh group, SFJ,“Sikhs for justice" lodged a complaint with a US federal court alleging Sonia Gandhi, the congress president for shielding party officials who were involved in inciting attacks on Sikhs in November 1984.
US federal court has issued summons to Sonia Gandhi.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/1984-Sikh-riots-US-court-summons-Sonia-Gandhi/articleshow/22282475.cms
http://www.indianexpress.com/news/1984-riots-us-court-issues-summons-to-sonia-gandhi-for-shielding-congress-leaders/1164527/
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Right or wrong, at least the US courts are taking up the cause of justice of their citizens who happen to be sikhs who have suffered under Congress misrule....Sonia Gandhi is not directly responsible but when I read the various reports I get the feeling that she is being called becsue she has been shielding kamalnath,Sajjan singh and Jagdish Tytler who were all involved in the Sikh massacre that took place in 1984...Being the Congress president she is directly responsible for their position..The sikhs cannot hope to get justice as long as Congress is in power so they are trying through the US courts...
Why is that US becomes super active when it comes to show supremacy and what happens when it relates to US culprits wanted in other countries. We should not forget the way US dealt Union Carbide case culprit. They did nothing to help send of their citizens to other countries for trials even where thousands of people died for their criminal negligence. Now that we all know that there were no chemical weapons involved in Iraq, will they handover Bush to an Iraqi court if they decided to try him?
Thats the way they take care of their citizens, for us it seems as if they are being unfair, but when you axtually analyse it, it shows how much they value their people unlike here...
How much they value 'Sikhs' is well known by so many killings and maltreatment there. The summons to Sonia Gandhi is nothing but an encroachment on India's internal affairs and an indication of the mentality of being super cop in international affairs.
Right or wrong, at least the US courts are taking up the cause of justice of their citizens who happen to be sikhs who have suffered under Congress misrule....Sonia Gandhi is not directly responsible but when I read the various reports I get the feeling that she is being called becsue she has been shielding kamalnath,Sajjan singh and Jagdish Tytler who were all involved in the Sikh massacre that took place in 1984...Being the Congress president she is directly responsible for their position..The sikhs cannot hope to get justice as long as Congress is in power so they are trying through the US courts...
Why is that US becomes super active when it comes to show supremacy and what happens when it relates to US culprits wanted in other countries. We should not forget the way US dealt Union Carbide case culprit. They did nothing to help send of their citizens to other countries for trials even where thousands of people died for their criminal negligence. Now that we all know that there were no chemical weapons involved in Iraq, will they handover Bush to an Iraqi court if they decided to try him?
Thats the way they take care of their citizens, for us it seems as if they are being unfair, but when you axtually analyse it, it shows how much they value their people unlike here...
How much they value 'Sikhs' is well known by so many killings and maltreatment there. The summons to Sonia Gandhi is nothing but an encroachment on India's internal affairs and an indication of the mentality of being super cop in international affairs.
US should know even a cop has his limits. If it fails to know Indian government should make them know. By wearing a pair of khakis and a cap a cop cannot do whatever he likes to do.
Right or wrong, at least the US courts are taking up the cause of justice of their citizens who happen to be sikhs who have suffered under Congress misrule....Sonia Gandhi is not directly responsible but when I read the various reports I get the feeling that she is being called becsue she has been shielding kamalnath,Sajjan singh and Jagdish Tytler who were all involved in the Sikh massacre that took place in 1984...Being the Congress president she is directly responsible for their position..The sikhs cannot hope to get justice as long as Congress is in power so they are trying through the US courts...
Why is that US becomes super active when it comes to show supremacy and what happens when it relates to US culprits wanted in other countries. We should not forget the way US dealt Union Carbide case culprit. They did nothing to help send of their citizens to other countries for trials even where thousands of people died for their criminal negligence. Now that we all know that there were no chemical weapons involved in Iraq, will they handover Bush to an Iraqi court if they decided to try him?
Thats the way they take care of their citizens, for us it seems as if they are being unfair, but when you axtually analyse it, it shows how much they value their people unlike here...
How much they value 'Sikhs' is well known by so many killings and maltreatment there. The summons to Sonia Gandhi is nothing but an encroachment on India's internal affairs and an indication of the mentality of being super cop in international affairs.
US should know even a cop has his limits. If it fails to know Indian government should make them know. By wearing a pair of khakis and a cap a cop cannot do whatever he likes to do.
I am not sure if India has courage to stop them, I appreciate N.Korea and China for not giving them a dime when it comes to their internal matters.
Right or wrong, at least the US courts are taking up the cause of justice of their citizens who happen to be sikhs who have suffered under Congress misrule....Sonia Gandhi is not directly responsible but when I read the various reports I get the feeling that she is being called becsue she has been shielding kamalnath,Sajjan singh and Jagdish Tytler who were all involved in the Sikh massacre that took place in 1984...Being the Congress president she is directly responsible for their position..The sikhs cannot hope to get justice as long as Congress is in power so they are trying through the US courts...
Why is that US becomes super active when it comes to show supremacy and what happens when it relates to US culprits wanted in other countries. We should not forget the way US dealt Union Carbide case culprit. They did nothing to help send of their citizens to other countries for trials even where thousands of people died for their criminal negligence. Now that we all know that there were no chemical weapons involved in Iraq, will they handover Bush to an Iraqi court if they decided to try him?
Thats the way they take care of their citizens, for us it seems as if they are being unfair, but when you axtually analyse it, it shows how much they value their people unlike here...
How much they value 'Sikhs' is well known by so many killings and maltreatment there. The summons to Sonia Gandhi is nothing but an encroachment on India's internal affairs and an indication of the mentality of being super cop in international affairs.
US should know even a cop has his limits. If it fails to know Indian government should make them know. By wearing a pair of khakis and a cap a cop cannot do whatever he likes to do.
I am not sure if India has courage to stop them, I appreciate N.Korea and China for not giving them a dime when it comes to their internal matters.
I uphold your views in this regard. N. Korea in no uncertain terms could speak its heart. That's courage. Not only you. I'm also not sure if we can express our resentment.
Right or wrong, at least the US courts are taking up the cause of justice of their citizens who happen to be sikhs who have suffered under Congress misrule....Sonia Gandhi is not directly responsible but when I read the various reports I get the feeling that she is being called becsue she has been shielding kamalnath,Sajjan singh and Jagdish Tytler who were all involved in the Sikh massacre that took place in 1984...Being the Congress president she is directly responsible for their position..The sikhs cannot hope to get justice as long as Congress is in power so they are trying through the US courts...
Why is that US becomes super active when it comes to show supremacy and what happens when it relates to US culprits wanted in other countries. We should not forget the way US dealt Union Carbide case culprit. They did nothing to help send of their citizens to other countries for trials even where thousands of people died for their criminal negligence. Now that we all know that there were no chemical weapons involved in Iraq, will they handover Bush to an Iraqi court if they decided to try him?
Thats the way they take care of their citizens, for us it seems as if they are being unfair, but when you axtually analyse it, it shows how much they value their people unlike here...
How much they value 'Sikhs' is well known by so many killings and maltreatment there. The summons to Sonia Gandhi is nothing but an encroachment on India's internal affairs and an indication of the mentality of being super cop in international affairs.
US should know even a cop has his limits. If it fails to know Indian government should make them know. By wearing a pair of khakis and a cap a cop cannot do whatever he likes to do.
I am not sure if India has courage to stop them, I appreciate N.Korea and China for not giving them a dime when it comes to their internal matters.
I uphold your views in this regard. N. Korea in no uncertain terms could speak its heart. That's courage. Not only you. I'm also not sure if we can express our resentment.
I wonder where are all the lecture experts of our country right now. What the hack are they waiting for. Isn't it like the cases we have faced in past which were slept on us in the name of US policies! here comes another US policy, let us see how they react now or whether they react at all!
On second thoughts I dont see anything really wrng with it....Earlier Bofors case too was tried in UK and Amitabh Bachan and others had to attend court there.There is international law for human rights violation under which the sikh group has filed a cse in the US because they realise that they will never be able to do so here....As for some of the maltreatments there it is because most Americans associate beard with Islam and after the 9/11 incident there is a lot of hatred for them...I dont think that Sikhs are being targetted as such ..
On second thoughts I dont see anything really wrng with it....Earlier Bofors case too was tried in UK and Amitabh Bachan and others had to attend court there.There is international law for human rights violation under which the sikh group has filed a cse in the US because they realise that they will never be able to do so here....As for some of the maltreatments there it is because most Americans associate beard with Islam and after the 9/11 incident there is a lot of hatred for them...I dont think that Sikhs are being targetted as such ..
for US what happen there after 9/11 was reaction. US policy is differ for other nations. Thousands Hindus killed in Punjab by terrorist. It means Hindu also file a case in US courts for justice.
Right or wrong, at least the US courts are taking up the cause of justice of their citizens who happen to be sikhs who have suffered under Congress misrule....Sonia Gandhi is not directly responsible but when I read the various reports I get the feeling that she is being called becsue she has been shielding kamalnath,Sajjan singh and Jagdish Tytler who were all involved in the Sikh massacre that took place in 1984...Being the Congress president she is directly responsible for their position..The sikhs cannot hope to get justice as long as Congress is in power so they are trying through the US courts...
You are absolutely right. It is unjustice with Sikh. But it is better if sikhs knocked doors of Indian courts. Indian courts are honest and serious. I think Indian courts order to reopen case of Sajjan Kumar.
What about Kamalnath and Tytler? they have been lording it up...in fact, I rememberKamalnath even having a case filed against him for gobbling up forest land to build a resort or a hotel...but all that does not seem to worry the scam party, so how can the sikhs expect any justice in this blessed country of ours?
Most of politician are doing it. They are gobbing up forest land or mines. Latest case of son-in-law of UPA chief.
On second thoughts I dont see anything really wrng with it....Earlier Bofors case too was tried in UK and Amitabh Bachan and others had to attend court there.There is international law for human rights violation under which the sikh group has filed a cse in the US because they realise that they will never be able to do so here....As for some of the maltreatments there it is because most Americans associate beard with Islam and after the 9/11 incident there is a lot of hatred for them...I dont think that Sikhs are being targetted as such ..
I don't mind if it goes according to international law but why is that all international laws apply to Indians only?
The Gujarat riots and anti Sikh riots were bad enough. There are riots at many other places. But these were controlled. There is no justification in treating these as human rights violation attracting international action. This is a way to undermine our sovereignty. The western powers attempt from time to time undermine sovereignty of other countries by 'rewarding' and 'awarding' the mischievous and anarchist elements. The bogey of human rights is also a means to interfere with our sovereignty.
The Gujarat riots and anti Sikh riots were bad enough. There are riots at many other places. But these were controlled. There is no justification in treating these as human rights violation attracting international action. This is a way to undermine our sovereignty. The western powers attempt from time to time undermine sovereignty of other countries by 'rewarding' and 'awarding' the mischievous and anarchist elements. The bogey of human rights is also a means to interfere with our sovereignty.
Whatever, but we have no courage to tell them that they should respect other countries. The US is used to behave that way and no one dares challenge them especially the one who is looking and dependent on them for every single matter. Countries having leaders caring for self respect retaliate and strangely enough US keeps activities limited to verbal only.
The Gujarat riots and anti Sikh riots were bad enough. There are riots at many other places. But these were controlled. There is no justification in treating these as human rights violation attracting international action. This is a way to undermine our sovereignty. The western powers attempt from time to time undermine sovereignty of other countries by 'rewarding' and 'awarding' the mischievous and anarchist elements. The bogey of human rights is also a means to interfere with our sovereignty.
Ok. If some body challenges the country's sovereignty , the minimum the government can do is to say, 'its none of your business'. Rather it is maintaining 'Maun Vrat". Silence sends wrong messages and the invasions on our sovereignty will increase.
The Gujarat riots and anti Sikh riots were bad enough. There are riots at many other places. But these were controlled. There is no justification in treating these as human rights violation attracting international action. This is a way to undermine our sovereignty. The western powers attempt from time to time undermine sovereignty of other countries by 'rewarding' and 'awarding' the mischievous and anarchist elements. The bogey of human rights is also a means to interfere with our sovereignty.
Ok. If some body challenges the country's sovereignty , the minimum the government can do is to say, 'its none of your business'. Rather it is maintaining 'Maun Vrat". Silence sends wrong messages and the invasions on our sovereignty will increase.
As long as the U.S. court does not send copy of summons to Govt. of India, there is no need to respond. It is for Sonia Gandhi to see what she will do. She may get some legal advice and act accordingly.
The Gujarat riots and anti Sikh riots were bad enough. There are riots at many other places. But these were controlled. There is no justification in treating these as human rights violation attracting international action. This is a way to undermine our sovereignty. The western powers attempt from time to time undermine sovereignty of other countries by 'rewarding' and 'awarding' the mischievous and anarchist elements. The bogey of human rights is also a means to interfere with our sovereignty.
Ok. If some body challenges the country's sovereignty , the minimum the government can do is to say, 'its none of your business'. Rather it is maintaining 'Maun Vrat". Silence sends wrong messages and the invasions on our sovereignty will increase.
As long as the U.S. court does not send copy of summons to Govt. of India, there is no need to respond. It is for Sonia Gandhi to see what she will do. She may get some legal advice and act accordingly.
The press is ours. We can have control on the press. It should be strictly instructed that until and unless summons are received by Sonia such news should not be published. Press has a responsibility being the fourth estate of democracy. People go by the press reports and spread wrong messages.
The Gujarat riots and anti Sikh riots were bad enough. There are riots at many other places. But these were controlled. There is no justification in treating these as human rights violation attracting international action. This is a way to undermine our sovereignty. The western powers attempt from time to time undermine sovereignty of other countries by 'rewarding' and 'awarding' the mischievous and anarchist elements. The bogey of human rights is also a means to interfere with our sovereignty.
Ok. If some body challenges the country's sovereignty , the minimum the government can do is to say, 'its none of your business'. Rather it is maintaining 'Maun Vrat". Silence sends wrong messages and the invasions on our sovereignty will increase.
As long as the U.S. court does not send copy of summons to Govt. of India, there is no need to respond. It is for Sonia Gandhi to see what she will do. She may get some legal advice and act accordingly.
The press is ours. We can have control on the press. It should be strictly instructed that until and unless summons are received by Sonia such news should not be published. Press has a responsibility being the fourth estate of democracy. People go by the press reports and spread wrong messages.
Publication of news differs from taking cognizance by government. Issue of summons by a U.S. court to Sonia Gandhi is a news that press must not ignore. The embassy in U.S.A. would have also communicated to Govt. of India. RAW, our external intelligence agency would also have given the information. But govt. of India does not directly come in picture. Ball is in court of Sonia Gandhi. Govt. of India must act when there is appropriate occasion and necessity.
The Gujarat riots and anti Sikh riots were bad enough. There are riots at many other places. But these were controlled. There is no justification in treating these as human rights violation attracting international action. This is a way to undermine our sovereignty. The western powers attempt from time to time undermine sovereignty of other countries by 'rewarding' and 'awarding' the mischievous and anarchist elements. The bogey of human rights is also a means to interfere with our sovereignty.
Ok. If some body challenges the country's sovereignty , the minimum the government can do is to say, 'its none of your business'. Rather it is maintaining 'Maun Vrat". Silence sends wrong messages and the invasions on our sovereignty will increase.
As long as the U.S. court does not send copy of summons to Govt. of India, there is no need to respond. It is for Sonia Gandhi to see what she will do. She may get some legal advice and act accordingly.
The press is ours. We can have control on the press. It should be strictly instructed that until and unless summons are received by Sonia such news should not be published. Press has a responsibility being the fourth estate of democracy. People go by the press reports and spread wrong messages.
Publication of news differs from taking cognizance by government. Issue of summons by a U.S. court to Sonia Gandhi is a news that press must not ignore. The embassy in U.S.A. would have also communicated to Govt. of India. RAW, our external intelligence agency would also have given the information. But govt. of India does not directly come in picture. Ball is in court of Sonia Gandhi. Govt. of India must act when there is appropriate occasion and necessity.
Sonia's position or place in the government when the news appeared in the press can't be ignored. She's the president of the ruling coalition which is in power at the moment when the news surfaced. Even it's the matter concerned to Sonia alone, its enough to create an uproar in the opposition. This will be utilised as a pretext and the valuable time of the parliament and will be lost in adjournments and suspensions. It should be born in mind that our people's representatives are not as educated as you are thinking. They don't think of the relevance of the news. They think in terms of cornering the government with some pretext or other.
Several times such things happened and there is no surety of such things not happening now.
The Gujarat riots and anti Sikh riots were bad enough. There are riots at many other places. But these were controlled. There is no justification in treating these as human rights violation attracting international action. This is a way to undermine our sovereignty. The western powers attempt from time to time undermine sovereignty of other countries by 'rewarding' and 'awarding' the mischievous and anarchist elements. The bogey of human rights is also a means to interfere with our sovereignty.
Ok. If some body challenges the country's sovereignty , the minimum the government can do is to say, 'its none of your business'. Rather it is maintaining 'Maun Vrat". Silence sends wrong messages and the invasions on our sovereignty will increase.
As long as the U.S. court does not send copy of summons to Govt. of India, there is no need to respond. It is for Sonia Gandhi to see what she will do. She may get some legal advice and act accordingly.
The press is ours. We can have control on the press. It should be strictly instructed that until and unless summons are received by Sonia such news should not be published. Press has a responsibility being the fourth estate of democracy. People go by the press reports and spread wrong messages.
Publication of news differs from taking cognizance by government. Issue of summons by a U.S. court to Sonia Gandhi is a news that press must not ignore. The embassy in U.S.A. would have also communicated to Govt. of India. RAW, our external intelligence agency would also have given the information. But govt. of India does not directly come in picture. Ball is in court of Sonia Gandhi. Govt. of India must act when there is appropriate occasion and necessity.
Sonia's position or place in the government when the news appeared in the press can't be ignored. She's the president of the ruling coalition which is in power at the moment when the news surfaced. Even it's the matter concerned to Sonia alone, its enough to create an uproar in the opposition. This will be utilised as a pretext and the valuable time of the parliament and will be lost in adjournments and suspensions. It should be born in mind that our people's representatives are not as educated as you are thinking. They don't think of the relevance of the news. They think in terms of cornering the government with some pretext or other.
Several times such things happened and there is no surety of such things not happening now.
Let the MPs discuss in parliament in the manner they think fit and the government will respond according to situation. However the govt. has to act only according to standard international norms. Sonia Gandhi as well as govt. know what to do in the circumstances.
The Gujarat riots and anti Sikh riots were bad enough. There are riots at many other places. But these were controlled. There is no justification in treating these as human rights violation attracting international action. This is a way to undermine our sovereignty. The western powers attempt from time to time undermine sovereignty of other countries by 'rewarding' and 'awarding' the mischievous and anarchist elements. The bogey of human rights is also a means to interfere with our sovereignty.
Ok. If some body challenges the country's sovereignty , the minimum the government can do is to say, 'its none of your business'. Rather it is maintaining 'Maun Vrat". Silence sends wrong messages and the invasions on our sovereignty will increase.
As long as the U.S. court does not send copy of summons to Govt. of India, there is no need to respond. It is for Sonia Gandhi to see what she will do. She may get some legal advice and act accordingly.
The press is ours. We can have control on the press. It should be strictly instructed that until and unless summons are received by Sonia such news should not be published. Press has a responsibility being the fourth estate of democracy. People go by the press reports and spread wrong messages.
Publication of news differs from taking cognizance by government. Issue of summons by a U.S. court to Sonia Gandhi is a news that press must not ignore. The embassy in U.S.A. would have also communicated to Govt. of India. RAW, our external intelligence agency would also have given the information. But govt. of India does not directly come in picture. Ball is in court of Sonia Gandhi. Govt. of India must act when there is appropriate occasion and necessity.
Sonia's position or place in the government when the news appeared in the press can't be ignored. She's the president of the ruling coalition which is in power at the moment when the news surfaced. Even it's the matter concerned to Sonia alone, its enough to create an uproar in the opposition. This will be utilised as a pretext and the valuable time of the parliament and will be lost in adjournments and suspensions. It should be born in mind that our people's representatives are not as educated as you are thinking. They don't think of the relevance of the news. They think in terms of cornering the government with some pretext or other.
Several times such things happened and there is no surety of such things not happening now.
Let the MPs discuss in parliament in the manner they think fit and the government will respond according to situation. However the govt. has to act only according to standard international norms. Sonia Gandhi as well as govt. know what to do in the circumstances.
That can never satisfy the adamant people's representatives nor can stop the disruptions of the parliament. Luckily the present parliament sessions are busy with missing files of coalgate. And if I'm not mistaken the issue of summons to sonia will come in the winter session of parliament. And the imminent disruptions.
The Gujarat riots and anti Sikh riots were bad enough. There are riots at many other places. But these were controlled. There is no justification in treating these as human rights violation attracting international action. This is a way to undermine our sovereignty. The western powers attempt from time to time undermine sovereignty of other countries by 'rewarding' and 'awarding' the mischievous and anarchist elements. The bogey of human rights is also a means to interfere with our sovereignty.
Ok. If some body challenges the country's sovereignty , the minimum the government can do is to say, 'its none of your business'. Rather it is maintaining 'Maun Vrat". Silence sends wrong messages and the invasions on our sovereignty will increase.
As long as the U.S. court does not send copy of summons to Govt. of India, there is no need to respond. It is for Sonia Gandhi to see what she will do. She may get some legal advice and act accordingly.
The press is ours. We can have control on the press. It should be strictly instructed that until and unless summons are received by Sonia such news should not be published. Press has a responsibility being the fourth estate of democracy. People go by the press reports and spread wrong messages.
Publication of news differs from taking cognizance by government. Issue of summons by a U.S. court to Sonia Gandhi is a news that press must not ignore. The embassy in U.S.A. would have also communicated to Govt. of India. RAW, our external intelligence agency would also have given the information. But govt. of India does not directly come in picture. Ball is in court of Sonia Gandhi. Govt. of India must act when there is appropriate occasion and necessity.
But why should government of India interfere if Sonia is not part of government? it is duty of congress to protect its president. Or let Sonia deal with it on her own level. If our government come in support of Sonia, it will send wrong signals to international community. She is a brave lady, she can face it independently.
The Gujarat riots and anti Sikh riots were bad enough. There are riots at many other places. But these were controlled. There is no justification in treating these as human rights violation attracting international action. This is a way to undermine our sovereignty. The western powers attempt from time to time undermine sovereignty of other countries by 'rewarding' and 'awarding' the mischievous and anarchist elements. The bogey of human rights is also a means to interfere with our sovereignty.
Ok. If some body challenges the country's sovereignty , the minimum the government can do is to say, 'its none of your business'. Rather it is maintaining 'Maun Vrat". Silence sends wrong messages and the invasions on our sovereignty will increase.
As long as the U.S. court does not send copy of summons to Govt. of India, there is no need to respond. It is for Sonia Gandhi to see what she will do. She may get some legal advice and act accordingly.
The press is ours. We can have control on the press. It should be strictly instructed that until and unless summons are received by Sonia such news should not be published. Press has a responsibility being the fourth estate of democracy. People go by the press reports and spread wrong messages.
Publication of news differs from taking cognizance by government. Issue of summons by a U.S. court to Sonia Gandhi is a news that press must not ignore. The embassy in U.S.A. would have also communicated to Govt. of India. RAW, our external intelligence agency would also have given the information. But govt. of India does not directly come in picture. Ball is in court of Sonia Gandhi. Govt. of India must act when there is appropriate occasion and necessity.
But why should government of India interfere if Sonia is not part of government? it is duty of congress to protect its president. Or let Sonia deal with it on her own level. If our government come in support of Sonia, it will send wrong signals to international community. She is a brave lady, she can face it independently.
But presently she is the president of the congress which is the main party in the coalition UPA. But. please note that i did not say that the government should support her. The government should respond in a befitting manner. Another thing is that even a commoner who shields a criminal is treated as a criminal. One need not be in power.
But those things are not relevant for the present discussion.
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