Is really religion universal need?

The church and other established religions stress that they serve universal need of people. In India, the 'saints' including the 'rape accused' claim that there is no salvation without 'religious guru or saint'.

Is this true. The history of mankind is much longer than that of religion. There are ground to believe that we can live without religion- at least organized religion. These only boost superstition, mental slavery and close our minds.

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The church and other established religions stress that they serve universal need of people. In India, the 'saints' including the 'rape accused' claim that there is no salvation without 'religious guru or saint'.

Is this true. The history of mankind is much longer than that of religion. There are ground to believe that we can live without religion- at least organized religion. These only boost superstition, mental slavery and close our minds.

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Very nice point of discussion gulshan ji. Religion is created to divide , to rule and to keep people under control...

The church and other established religions stress that they serve universal need of people. In India, the 'saints' including the 'rape accused' claim that there is no salvation without 'religious guru or saint'.

Is this true. The history of mankind is much longer than that of religion. There are ground to believe that we can live without religion- at least organized religion. These only boost superstition, mental slavery and close our minds.

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Very nice point of discussion gulshan ji. Religion is created to divide , to rule and to keep people under control...

Here I may give example of North East states. Prior to British rule, they had no religion. The tribes would of course worship Sun or trees but they had no organized religion. The Christian missionaries introduced them to organized religion. Apparently, they used to live well even without organized religion.

Hinduism is the oldest religion, and if there is still life without religion then it might be , but all these words has been to attract and lure to the religions nothing more, as every religion taught to worship inside your own home,

Hinduism is the oldest religion, and if there is still life without religion then it might be , but all these words has been to attract and lure to the religions nothing more, as every religion taught to worship inside your own home,

I don't think religion teach us anything except letting us know that we are different from others. That our rules and our way of living is different from them..

Hinduism is the oldest religion, and if there is still life without religion then it might be , but all these words has been to attract and lure to the religions nothing more, as every religion taught to worship inside your own home,

I don't think religion teach us anything except letting us know that we are different from others. That our rules and our way of living is different from them..

Very correct. Basically all human and their needs are similar but religion divides humanity.

Hinduism is the oldest religion, and if there is still life without religion then it might be , but all these words has been to attract and lure to the religions nothing more, as every religion taught to worship inside your own home,

I don't think religion teach us anything except letting us know that we are different from others. That our rules and our way of living is different from them..

Very correct. Basically all human and their needs are similar but religion divides humanity.

Agreed sir.. except humanity everything is there.

There are only three needs for the humanity. A morsel of food to fill the belly, a piece of cloth to protect the body and a roof above the head to save from sun, rain and cold. They are necessary for the survival. Nothing else.Cave man survived for centuries just with these needs. Hence he can survive without the other needs especially religion.

There are only three needs for the humanity. A morsel of food to fill the belly, a piece of cloth to protect the body and a roof above the head to save from sun, rain and cold. They are necessary for the survival. Nothing else.Cave man survived for centuries just with these needs. Hence he can survive without the other needs especially religion.

Caveman survived without clothes and cooked food, how about that?

The church and other established religions stress that they serve universal need of people. In India, the 'saints' including the 'rape accused' claim that there is no salvation without 'religious guru or saint'.

Is this true. The history of mankind is much longer than that of religion. There are ground to believe that we can live without religion- at least organized religion. These only boost superstition, mental slavery and close our minds.

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Very nice point of discussion gulshan ji. Religion is created to divide , to rule and to keep people under control...

Here I may give example of North East states. Prior to British rule, they had no religion. The tribes would of course worship Sun or trees but they had no organized religion. The Christian missionaries introduced them to organized religion. Apparently, they used to live well even without organized religion.

The church and other established religions stress that they serve universal need of people. In India, the 'saints' including the 'rape accused' claim that there is no salvation without 'religious guru or saint'.

Is this true. The history of mankind is much longer than that of religion. There are ground to believe that we can live without religion- at least organized religion. These only boost superstition, mental slavery and close our minds.

http://www.richarddawkins.net/discussions/2013/7/20/is-religion-really-universal-among-humans?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Very nice point of discussion gulshan ji. Religion is created to divide , to rule and to keep people under control...

Here I may give example of North East states. Prior to British rule, they had no religion. The tribes would of course worship Sun or trees but they had no organized religion. The Christian missionaries introduced them to organized religion. Apparently, they used to live well even without organized religion.

I am not sure what you actually meant by organized religion, however, I just wanted to clarify something. Its true that the British had introduced Christianity in most parts of the Northeast and at present, most of the people are Christian. However, prior to that, they followed their own religions which had their own beliefs, deities, rituals and practise, festivals associated with it etc. and yes, Nature worship forms an important part of these religions. In fact there are still people who follow those religions.

The church and other established religions stress that they serve universal need of people. In India, the 'saints' including the 'rape accused' claim that there is no salvation without 'religious guru or saint'.

Is this true. The history of mankind is much longer than that of religion. There are ground to believe that we can live without religion- at least organized religion. These only boost superstition, mental slavery and close our minds.

http://www.richarddawkins.net/discussions/2013/7/20/is-religion-really-universal-among-humans?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Very nice point of discussion gulshan ji. Religion is created to divide , to rule and to keep people under control...

Here I may give example of North East states. Prior to British rule, they had no religion. The tribes would of course worship Sun or trees but they had no organized religion. The Christian missionaries introduced them to organized religion. Apparently, they used to live well even without organized religion.

I am not sure what you actually meant by organized religion, however, I just wanted to clarify something. Its true that the British had introduced Christianity in most parts of the Northeast and at present, most of the people are Christian. However, prior to that, they followed their own religions which had their own beliefs, deities, rituals and practise, festivals associated with it etc. and yes, Nature worship forms an important part of these religions. In fact there are still people who follow those religions.

When compared to the age of creation religion is much younger and it was man made. When its proved that man lived well before the birth of religion, why not forever ? Hence religion is not a universal need.

The church and other established religions stress that they serve universal need of people. In India, the 'saints' including the 'rape accused' claim that there is no salvation without 'religious guru or saint'.

Is this true. The history of mankind is much longer than that of religion. There are ground to believe that we can live without religion- at least organized religion. These only boost superstition, mental slavery and close our minds.

http://www.richarddawkins.net/discussions/2013/7/20/is-religion-really-universal-among-humans?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Very nice point of discussion gulshan ji. Religion is created to divide , to rule and to keep people under control...

Here I may give example of North East states. Prior to British rule, they had no religion. The tribes would of course worship Sun or trees but they had no organized religion. The Christian missionaries introduced them to organized religion. Apparently, they used to live well even without organized religion.

I am not sure what you actually meant by organized religion, however, I just wanted to clarify something. Its true that the British had introduced Christianity in most parts of the Northeast and at present, most of the people are Christian. However, prior to that, they followed their own religions which had their own beliefs, deities, rituals and practise, festivals associated with it etc. and yes, Nature worship forms an important part of these religions. In fact there are still people who follow those religions.

When compared to the age of creation religion is much younger and it was man made. When its proved that man lived well before the birth of religion, why not forever ? Hence religion is not a universal need.

I appreciate your take but let people decide how they want to accept the fact. I am not a typical religious guy who goes to a temple every day or sit for pujas on regular basis but I have a trust in Nature. There is someone who is moving everything present in universe. names are your choice, I call her Mother Nature.

The church and other established religions stress that they serve universal need of people. In India, the 'saints' including the 'rape accused' claim that there is no salvation without 'religious guru or saint'.

Is this true. The history of mankind is much longer than that of religion. There are ground to believe that we can live without religion- at least organized religion. These only boost superstition, mental slavery and close our minds.

http://www.richarddawkins.net/discussions/2013/7/20/is-religion-really-universal-among-humans?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Very nice point of discussion gulshan ji. Religion is created to divide , to rule and to keep people under control...

Here I may give example of North East states. Prior to British rule, they had no religion. The tribes would of course worship Sun or trees but they had no organized religion. The Christian missionaries introduced them to organized religion. Apparently, they used to live well even without organized religion.

I am not sure what you actually meant by organized religion, however, I just wanted to clarify something. Its true that the British had introduced Christianity in most parts of the Northeast and at present, most of the people are Christian. However, prior to that, they followed their own religions which had their own beliefs, deities, rituals and practise, festivals associated with it etc. and yes, Nature worship forms an important part of these religions. In fact there are still people who follow those religions.

When compared to the age of creation religion is much younger and it was man made. When its proved that man lived well before the birth of religion, why not forever ? Hence religion is not a universal need.

I appreciate your take but let people decide how they want to accept the fact. I am not a typical religious guy who goes to a temple every day or sit for pujas on regular basis but I have a trust in Nature. There is someone who is moving everything present in universe. names are your choice, I call her Mother Nature.

Having trust in nature is the best form of worship. Because, nature is a combination of 5 elements which we call as "Panch Bhoota". And these are the same Panch Bhootas present in every living organism. So it goes without saying that human welfare lies in worshiping the nature and preserving it in its pristine glory. Not in pouring pots of milk on the man made idols.And in my opinion even following a religion or the rituals is not wrong. One can be a faithful follower of any religion without making a show.

The church and other established religions stress that they serve universal need of people. In India, the 'saints' including the 'rape accused' claim that there is no salvation without 'religious guru or saint'.

Is this true. The history of mankind is much longer than that of religion. There are ground to believe that we can live without religion- at least organized religion. These only boost superstition, mental slavery and close our minds.

http://www.richarddawkins.net/discussions/2013/7/20/is-religion-really-universal-among-humans?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Very nice point of discussion gulshan ji. Religion is created to divide , to rule and to keep people under control...

Here I may give example of North East states. Prior to British rule, they had no religion. The tribes would of course worship Sun or trees but they had no organized religion. The Christian missionaries introduced them to organized religion. Apparently, they used to live well even without organized religion.

I am not sure what you actually meant by organized religion, however, I just wanted to clarify something. Its true that the British had introduced Christianity in most parts of the Northeast and at present, most of the people are Christian. However, prior to that, they followed their own religions which had their own beliefs, deities, rituals and practise, festivals associated with it etc. and yes, Nature worship forms an important part of these religions. In fact there are still people who follow those religions.

When compared to the age of creation religion is much younger and it was man made. When its proved that man lived well before the birth of religion, why not forever ? Hence religion is not a universal need.

I appreciate your take but let people decide how they want to accept the fact. I am not a typical religious guy who goes to a temple every day or sit for pujas on regular basis but I have a trust in Nature. There is someone who is moving everything present in universe. names are your choice, I call her Mother Nature.

Having trust in nature is the best form of worship. Because, nature is a combination of 5 elements which we call as "Panch Bhoota". And these are the same Panch Bhootas present in every living organism. So it goes without saying that human welfare lies in worshiping the nature and preserving it in its pristine glory. Not in pouring pots of milk on the man made idols.And in my opinion even following a religion or the rituals is not wrong. One can be a faithful follower of any religion without making a show.

Yes that is the punch line- One can be a faithful follower of any religion without making a show. I am simply following this.

There are only three needs for the humanity. A morsel of food to fill the belly, a piece of cloth to protect the body and a roof above the head to save from sun, rain and cold. They are necessary for the survival. Nothing else.Cave man survived for centuries just with these needs. Hence he can survive without the other needs especially religion.

There are only three needs for the humanity. A morsel of food to fill the belly, a piece of cloth to protect the body and a roof above the head to save from sun, rain and cold. They are necessary for the survival. Nothing else.Cave man survived for centuries just with these needs. Hence he can survive without the other needs especially religion.

Very nice idea! This reminds me of an old song- Ek Langoti Do Roti- baaki sab bakwas hai- apnai dhun men gata jaye banjara- leke dil ka ektara.

The church and other established religions stress that they serve universal need of people. In India, the 'saints' including the 'rape accused' claim that there is no salvation without 'religious guru or saint'.

Is this true. The history of mankind is much longer than that of religion. There are ground to believe that we can live without religion- at least organized religion. These only boost superstition, mental slavery and close our minds.

http://www.richarddawkins.net/discussions/2013/7/20/is-religion-really-universal-among-humans?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter