Strict law on rape- Justice Verma panel report

I am not sure how best they would be implemented .....as of now the rapists and murderers of Nirbhaya must be hoping to get away with a lighter sentence...

Justic Verma Panel has not favored death penalty for rape but given many far reaching suggestions like enhancing punishment, making law enforcement machinery more efficient. The link below explains in detail the report.

http://zeenews.india.com/news/nation/verma-committee-rejects-chemical-castration-death-for-rapists_824569.html

I heard and read about Verma's suggestions. Any suggestion is an exercise in futility if not properly implemented.

Justic Verma Panel has not favored death penalty for rape but given many far reaching suggestions like enhancing punishment, making law enforcement machinery more efficient. The link below explains in detail the report.

http://zeenews.india.com/news/nation/verma-committee-rejects-chemical-castration-death-for-rapists_824569.html

I heard and read about Verma's suggestions. Any suggestion is an exercise in futility if not properly implemented.

Justice Verma has reported that the legal provisions are okay. But the administration needs be more efficient.

The issue is that police force is not so big that one constable be provided as a body guard to every woman. The police have many duties other than protecting women. In fact, the present police staff is often fatigued and overworked. They cannot even often avail leave. There is more need to change mindset of people about women. Double standards on morality and chastity need be fought.

One thing I understand is that girls must be allowed to carry weapons to protect herself. If she kills rapist to protect herself, she must not be held liable for any kind of punishment. If she can kill the rapist, she should atleast have courage to commit suicide. Suiciding is must better than dieing in a hospital.

Rest all laws are implemented for passing out time and suppressing crowd's anger quietly.

One thing I understand is that girls must be allowed to carry weapons to protect herself. If she kills rapist to protect herself, she must not be held liable for any kind of punishment. If she can kill the rapist, she should atleast have courage to commit suicide. Suicide is better than death in a hospital.

Rest all laws are implemented for passing out time and suppressing crowd's anger quitely.

There is more need to avoid double standards on morality and chastity rather than thoughts of killing and suicides. In most cases of rape, women are not seriously injured or killed. It is only the extreme cases of rape that need strictest punishment viz. against minor girls, custodial rapes, gang rapes, rapes causing severe body injury and death.
Just remove the concept of 'honor' from rape and the issue is settled. I may here point out that it has been decided to send American women soldier to fight in battle field. Will they not be put to risk of rape by enemy. Possibly they may be raped. even after rape, they will be 'honored' and not put to shame as in India.

One thing I understand is that girls must be allowed to carry weapons to protect herself. If she kills rapist to protect herself, she must not be held liable for any kind of punishment. If she can kill the rapist, she should atleast have courage to commit suicide. Suicide is better than death in a hospital.

Rest all laws are implemented for passing out time and suppressing crowd's anger quitely.

There is more need to avoid double standards on morality and chastity rather than thoughts of killing and suicides. In most cases of rape, women are not seriously injured or killed. It is only the extreme cases of rape that need strictest punishment viz. against minor girls, custodial rapes, gang rapes, rapes causing severe body injury and death.
Just remove the concept of 'honor' from rape and the issue is settled. I may here point out that it has been decided to send American women soldier to fight in battle field. Will they not be put to risk of rape by enemy. Possibly they may be raped. even after rape, they will be 'honored' and not put to shame as in India.

I 100% agree with the last line. As we are Indian, we need to live in India among backward thinking people who unnecessarily torture women and blame women for no reason. If she is raped or cannot give birth to a baby, she is rejected both by her parents and in-laws. So many decades have passed and education system has also been changed but the mentality of society and men are just the same. It is a disease.

One thing I understand is that girls must be allowed to carry weapons to protect herself. If she kills rapist to protect herself, she must not be held liable for any kind of punishment. If she can kill the rapist, she should atleast have courage to commit suicide. Suiciding is must better than dieing in a hospital.

Rest all laws are implemented for passing out time and suppressing crowd's anger quietly.

"If she kills rapist to protect herself, she must not be held liable for any kind of punishment".

I agree with it partially but I Know this would be misused if implemented.

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One thing I understand is that girls must be allowed to carry weapons to protect herself. If she kills rapist to protect herself, she must not be held liable for any kind of punishment. If she can kill the rapist, she should atleast have courage to commit suicide. Suicide is better than death in a hospital.

Rest all laws are implemented for passing out time and suppressing crowd's anger quitely.

There is more need to avoid double standards on morality and chastity rather than thoughts of killing and suicides. In most cases of rape, women are not seriously injured or killed. It is only the extreme cases of rape that need strictest punishment viz. against minor girls, custodial rapes, gang rapes, rapes causing severe body injury and death.
Just remove the concept of 'honor' from rape and the issue is settled. I may here point out that it has been decided to send American women soldier to fight in battle field. Will they not be put to risk of rape by enemy. Possibly they may be raped. even after rape, they will be 'honored' and not put to shame as in India.

I 100% agree with the last line. As we are Indian, we need to live in India among backward thinking people who unnecessarily torture women and blame women for no reason. If she is raped or cannot give birth to a baby, she is rejected both by her parents and in-laws. So many decades have passed and education system has also been changed but the mentality of society and men are just the same. It is a disease.

I appreciate your understanding of mentality of Indians especially in rural area. The women organization and others should fight this mentality which is main cause of women suffering. In fact, this is unfinished task of Raja Ram Mohan Roy who fought against the Sati system. A woman was burnt alive with her husband's dead body and was 'honored' thereby. still there are several 'Sati temples' in Rajasthan, which 'honor' the Sattees ( women killed with husband's body). It is time that women refuse such 'honor'. .

One thing I understand is that girls must be allowed to carry weapons to protect herself. If she kills rapist to protect herself, she must not be held liable for any kind of punishment. If she can kill the rapist, she should atleast have courage to commit suicide. Suicide is better than death in a hospital.

Rest all laws are implemented for passing out time and suppressing crowd's anger quitely.

There is more need to avoid double standards on morality and chastity rather than thoughts of killing and suicides. In most cases of rape, women are not seriously injured or killed. It is only the extreme cases of rape that need strictest punishment viz. against minor girls, custodial rapes, gang rapes, rapes causing severe body injury and death.
Just remove the concept of 'honor' from rape and the issue is settled. I may here point out that it has been decided to send American women soldier to fight in battle field. Will they not be put to risk of rape by enemy. Possibly they may be raped. even after rape, they will be 'honored' and not put to shame as in India.

Either way it is violation of privacy and rape is as bad a crime as violence and should be treated that way.No one has the right to force themselves on another person. Now, issue of rape within marriage is being talked about, so how can a stranger even think of forcing himself on another woman against her will?

One thing I understand is that girls must be allowed to carry weapons to protect herself. If she kills rapist to protect herself, she must not be held liable for any kind of punishment. If she can kill the rapist, she should atleast have courage to commit suicide. Suicide is better than death in a hospital.

Rest all laws are implemented for passing out time and suppressing crowd's anger quitely.

There is more need to avoid double standards on morality and chastity rather than thoughts of killing and suicides. In most cases of rape, women are not seriously injured or killed. It is only the extreme cases of rape that need strictest punishment viz. against minor girls, custodial rapes, gang rapes, rapes causing severe body injury and death.
Just remove the concept of 'honor' from rape and the issue is settled. I may here point out that it has been decided to send American women soldier to fight in battle field. Will they not be put to risk of rape by enemy. Possibly they may be raped. even after rape, they will be 'honored' and not put to shame as in India.

Either way it is violation of privacy and rape is as bad a crime as violence and should be treated that way.No one has the right to force themselves on another person. Now, issue of rape within marriage is being talked about, so how can a stranger even think of forcing himself on another woman against her will?

Not to speak of rape, even touching anyone with ill motive is evil. There must be strict punishment. We cannot completely remove society of ill behaved, bad mannered and criminal elements. There is some limitation to law enforcement agencies. What is more important is that the victim should not feel further shame or dishonor for no fault of her. Rape is the only offence that 'dishonors' the victim rather than the offenders. This tendency needs be combated more.

Laws maybe strict or soft unless we implement them with total strictness, there is no use complaining about them. We shall have to see that law enforcement take them seriously.

Although I have not gone through the report in details, I do agree it is all implementation that would make all the difference. One thing has struck me very much that according to him a majority of women groups opined against death penalty! The interesting aspect is how much of weightage do these groups deserve? Rape as a crime takes place in the remotest corners of the country in far greater numbers and mostly go un-addressed and un-redressed. How many suggestions has the Commission received from this very vast numbers before deciding against death penalty in general.

B) No it is not right she is died know because of rape it is also case 302.

I am not sure how best they would be implemented .....as of now the rapists and murderers of Nirbhaya must be hoping to get away with a lighter sentence...

B) No it is not right she is died know because of rape it is also case 302.

I am not sure how best they would be implemented .....as of now the rapists and murderers of Nirbhaya must be hoping to get away with a lighter sentence...

Even when there is photographic and video evidence murderers get away like in the case of Jessica Lal...so I am not sure how this case would end and what judgment would be given to the rapist/murderers?

B) No it is not right she is died know because of rape it is also case 302.

I am not sure how best they would be implemented .....as of now the rapists and murderers of Nirbhaya must be hoping to get away with a lighter sentence...

Even when there is photographic and video evidence murderers get away like in the case of Jessica Lal...so I am not sure how this case would end and what judgment would be given to the rapist/murderers?

We get the news of video evidence and photographs in newspapers only. But the courts get the evidence recorded in court. Always what is reported in press is not reliable and no court will decide on basis of reports in media. That is why media trial is considered unjust. In fact, too much media coverage goes in favor of the accused. Their advocates successfully plead that their client is announced guilty even before trial in competent court.

B) No it is not right she is died know because of rape it is also case 302.

I am not sure how best they would be implemented .....as of now the rapists and murderers of Nirbhaya must be hoping to get away with a lighter sentence...

Even when there is photographic and video evidence murderers get away like in the case of Jessica Lal...so I am not sure how this case would end and what judgment would be given to the rapist/murderers?

We get the news of video evidence and photographs in newspapers only. But the courts get the evidence recorded in court. Always what is reported in press is not reliable and no court will decide on basis of reports in media. That is why media trial is considered unjust. In fact, too much media coverage goes in favor of the accused. Their advocates successfully plead that their client is announced guilty even before trial in competent court.

Yes, it's true that media these days have been usurping the role of the judiciary, this is absolutely unacceptable. Let them play their due role in informing and educating the public about various burning issues.

B) No it is not right she is died know because of rape it is also case 302.

I am not sure how best they would be implemented .....as of now the rapists and murderers of Nirbhaya must be hoping to get away with a lighter sentence...

Even when there is photographic and video evidence murderers get away like in the case of Jessica Lal...so I am not sure how this case would end and what judgment would be given to the rapist/murderers?

We get the news of video evidence and photographs in newspapers only. But the courts get the evidence recorded in court. Always what is reported in press is not reliable and no court will decide on basis of reports in media. That is why media trial is considered unjust. In fact, too much media coverage goes in favor of the accused. Their advocates successfully plead that their client is announced guilty even before trial in competent court.

Yes I suppose that is right ! Media is a double edged sword and cut both ways unless they remain responsible and tone down sensationalism when they report such cases..

B) No it is not right she is died know because of rape it is also case 302.

I am not sure how best they would be implemented .....as of now the rapists and murderers of Nirbhaya must be hoping to get away with a lighter sentence...

Even when there is photographic and video evidence murderers get away like in the case of Jessica Lal...so I am not sure how this case would end and what judgment would be given to the rapist/murderers?

We get the news of video evidence and photographs in newspapers only. But the courts get the evidence recorded in court. Always what is reported in press is not reliable and no court will decide on basis of reports in media. That is why media trial is considered unjust. In fact, too much media coverage goes in favor of the accused. Their advocates successfully plead that their client is announced guilty even before trial in competent court.

Yes I suppose that is right ! Media is a double edged sword and cut both ways unless they remain responsible and tone down sensationalism when they report such cases..

What I find absolutely reckless on their part is their utter failure in following up cases after creating a hype over them!!! Public memory is proverbially short and the role of the media to keep certain issues in right focus is very important.