Left-Right Politics

Left means Communist party...right???
I never support them since I feel they cause a lot of violence in our state. Am not saying right hand is good....only better than left...that's all :sick:

Left means Communist party...right???
I never support them since I feel they cause a lot of violence in our state. Am not saying right hand is good....only better than left...that's all :sick:

Yes..Communist party comes under Left.Left Right is a broad classification.It would be better if we discuss about the ideology rather tallking about a particular party.So keeping aside your opinion about a particular party,which political view you support?

Actually I know nothing about the views of political parties. Only thing I know is...they never keep their promises...left or right...both are not right!!! ha ha

Looking at these labels and going by my experience,I find some kind of artificiality into them. There are fewer leftists parties in the country who really practice what they preach! The taste of the pudding is in the eating! Isn't it?

Why conservatives or pro establishment are called 'right' and the 'anti establishment' or radical left.

Historically, peoples' representatives would sit to to left of the crown and the court officers/ ministers to his right. Hence the terms- Left and Right.

The right are considered no changers, conservatives, pro establishment

The left are considered as radical, revolutionary, anti establishment

There is degree of 'left' or 'right'. So there are extreme left, moderately left, moderates, right, extreme right.

These are shades of political opinion. No ideology is perfect. Exchange of thoughts between different ideologues brings real solutions. In a democracy, we need all shades of political and social opinion. All should be tolerant and respect each other. This ensures that nation goes in the proper direction and is protected from extremity of any kind.

Let us come to politics in India. The Right is led by B.J.P. that includes various parties grouped as National Democratic alliance. Congress is a centrist party and leads various other parties collectively termed as United Progressive alliance. Most of the parties in both alliances are regional and some of these change their alliance partner just for sticking to power. The classic case is of Trinmool Congress who participated in power at center as constituent of N.D.A. and is now in U.P.A..

The left is comparatively weaker force. The left consists of C.P.I.(M), C.P.I., Forward block and Revolutionary socialist party. They perform as one block as 'Left alliance' in parliament and outside. The left had prominent role in United Front or Third Front governments led by V.P. Singh, Deve Gauda and Inder Kumar Gujaral. The left also supported first U.P.A. government. The left always supported from outside and never fought for any personal benefits or share in exploits of power. The left are relatively free from dynastic politics, regionalism,caste or religion based politics and corrupt practices. This is obvious as they are not interested in ministerial berths like others but support from outside on policy basis.

Thus the left are on higher moral pedestal and more selfless. They are also not involved in so many scams like U.P.A. and N.D.A. Their role is better for the nation. But in view of their weak organization, they are less effective. On the whole, the left are the only hope in environment of corruption, dynastic, region and caste based politics.

Why conservatives or pro establishment are called 'right' and the 'anti establishment' or radical left.

Historically, peoples' representatives would sit to to left of the crown and the court officers/ ministers to his right. Hence the terms- Left and Right.

The right are considered no changers, conservatives, pro establishment

The left are considered as radical, revolutionary, anti establishment

There is degree of 'left' or 'right'. So there are extreme left, moderately left, moderates, right, extreme right.

These are shades of political opinion. No ideology is perfect. Exchange of thoughts between different ideologues brings real solutions. In a democracy, we need all shades of political and social opinion. All should be tolerant and respect each other. This ensures that nation goes in the proper direction and is protected from extremity of any kind.

Reminds me of a quote by voltaire

[quote]I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it[/quote]

Let us come to politics in India. The Right is led by B.J.P. that includes various parties grouped as National Democratic alliance. Congress is a centrist party and leads various other parties collectively termed as United Progressive alliance. Most of the parties in both alliances are regional and some of these change their alliance partner just for sticking to power. The classic case is of Trinmool Congress who participated in power at center as constituent of N.D.A. and is now in U.P.A..

The left is comparatively weaker force. The left consists of C.P.I.(M), C.P.I., Forward block and Revolutionary socialist party. They perform as one block as 'Left alliance' in parliament and outside. The left had prominent role in United Front or Third Front governments led by V.P. Singh, Deve Gauda and Inder Kumar Gujaral. The left also supported first U.P.A. government. The left always supported from outside and never fought for any personal benefits or share in exploits of power. The left are relatively free from dynastic politics, regionalism,caste or religion based politics and corrupt practices. This is obvious as they are not interested in ministerial berths like others but support from outside on policy basis.

Thus the left are on higher moral pedestal and more selfless. They are also not involved in so many scams like U.P.A. and N.D.A. Their role is better for the nation. But in view of their weak organization, they are less effective. On the whole, the left are the only hope in environment of corruption, dynastic, region and caste based politics.

Thanks Gulshanji for the brief description of Indian political scenario.I take it that you are a left sympathizer.
I think everything changes once you have the power.The left may be best option today but you cannot guarantee ideological corruption once power comes to hand.World politics is full of such examples.

Some ideas of left are really good. Actually left-right combination of changing the thrown in Kerala has really made it a place to live in, people having better education and good standard of living. Also weaker sections are less exploited.

Left always raises against land owners and rich people assuring better living conditions and wages to poor people. I appreciate it. But seeing private firms as only business institutions....I can't approve it. Big organizations are not coming to Kerala only because of this. Even if right put forward such ideas, including many IT developments, left won't allow them to flourish in Kerala saying big companies exploiting poor people. Their policy is that full employment should be done by government itself, and no private organizations should be allowed. Is it possible for a highly populated country to give jobs to all citizens??? Not at all.
I disagree with this policy of left

Some ideas of left are really good. Actually left-right combination of changing the thrown in Kerala has really made it a place to live in, people having better education and good standard of living. Also weaker sections are less exploited.

Left always raises against land owners and rich people assuring better living conditions and wages to poor people. I appreciate it. But seeing private firms as only business institutions....I can't approve it. Big organizations are not coming to Kerala only because of this. Even if right put forward such ideas, including many IT developments, left won't allow them to flourish in Kerala saying big companies exploiting poor people. Their policy is that full employment should be done by government itself, and no private organizations should be allowed. Is it possible for a highly populated country to give jobs to all citizens??? Not at all.
I disagree with this policy of left

In fact, big business, big landlords and even foreign western powers discourage Left. I also do not blindly support the left. Also, I have no direct knowledge of Left rule in Kerala or other states. But I am convinced that they followed a very positive policy in national politics. They supported UPA/ Third from governments only on policy basis from outside without seeking any personal favor. On the other hand, even very tiny parties with even two members sought ministerial berths and other benefits. All party leaders dupe the people by beginning election campaign from temple whereas communists act strictly in secular way. They do not go to touch feet of fake Sadhus unlike Congress, BJP and other regional politicians.

Whatever the meaning but why are they left and right in the first place? And who decides who is right and who is left? As a matter of rule all are for society later for party or self.

Whatever the meaning but why are they left and right in the first place? And who decides who is right and who is left? As a matter of rule all are for society later for party or self.

'Left', 'Right', 'Centrist', 'conservative' etc are political terminology and these terms are used the world over in media, press and political speeches. I have explained in one post above how the term' left' and 'right' originated.

I agree that service to people/ society or nation is main object of all. But there may be different opinion as to how people's interest may be served better. Left, Right and 'Center', may have different views. Healthy discussion between all shades of opinion brings better solution to all problems. Hence, all shades of political though should get some representation in parliament so that benefits of diverse vies may be taken by the nation.

Some ideas of left are really good. Actually left-right combination of changing the thrown in Kerala has really made it a place to live in, people having better education and good standard of living. Also weaker sections are less exploited.

Left always raises against land owners and rich people assuring better living conditions and wages to poor people. I appreciate it. But seeing private firms as only business institutions....I can't approve it. Big organizations are not coming to Kerala only because of this. Even if right put forward such ideas, including many IT developments, left won't allow them to flourish in Kerala saying big companies exploiting poor people. Their policy is that full employment should be done by government itself, and no private organizations should be allowed. Is it possible for a highly populated country to give jobs to all citizens??? Not at all.
I disagree with this policy of left

In fact, big business, big landlords and even foreign western powers discourage Left. I also do not blindly support the left. Also, I have no direct knowledge of Left rule in Kerala or other states. But I am convinced that they followed a very positive policy in national politics. They supported UPA/ Third from governments only on policy basis from outside without seeking any personal favor. On the other hand, even very tiny parties with even two members sought ministerial berths and other benefits. All party leaders dupe the people by beginning election campaign from temple whereas communists act strictly in secular way. They do not go to touch feet of fake Sadhus unlike Congress, BJP and other regional politicians.

Because communists are atheists..... :huh: :huh: :huh:
My father in law is a Communist party member......even party flooding through his veins as blood. Since his party does not allow belief in God, all the three kids are brought up as atheists. Even if my mother in law was a Hindu before marriage, she didn't go to temple after marriage. Not even a pooja room at home.

I can't agree this principle also :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Whatever the meaning but why are they left and right in the first place? And who decides who is right and who is left? As a matter of rule all are for society later for party or self.

'Left', 'Right', 'Centrist', 'conservative' etc are political terminology and these terms are used the world over in media, press and political speeches. I have explained in one post above how the term' left' and 'right' originated.

I agree that service to people/ society or nation is main object of all. But there may be different opinion as to how people's interest may be served better. Left, Right and 'Center', may have different views. Healthy discussion between all shades of opinion brings better solution to all problems. Hence, all shades of political though should get some representation in parliament so that benefits of diverse vies may be taken by the nation.

Yes, I agree, both left and right have good and bad views.
I think, left do corruption least. Right is the field of corruption.
Right loves to be calm and patient and Gandhiji's principle of non-violence . But left loves violence

Some ideas of left are really good. Actually left-right combination of changing the thrown in Kerala has really made it a place to live in, people having better education and good standard of living. Also weaker sections are less exploited.

Left always raises against land owners and rich people assuring better living conditions and wages to poor people. I appreciate it. But seeing private firms as only business institutions....I can't approve it. Big organizations are not coming to Kerala only because of this. Even if right put forward such ideas, including many IT developments, left won't allow them to flourish in Kerala saying big companies exploiting poor people. Their policy is that full employment should be done by government itself, and no private organizations should be allowed. Is it possible for a highly populated country to give jobs to all citizens??? Not at all.
I disagree with this policy of left

In fact, big business, big landlords and even foreign western powers discourage Left. I also do not blindly support the left. Also, I have no direct knowledge of Left rule in Kerala or other states. But I am convinced that they followed a very positive policy in national politics. They supported UPA/ Third from governments only on policy basis from outside without seeking any personal favor. On the other hand, even very tiny parties with even two members sought ministerial berths and other benefits. All party leaders dupe the people by beginning election campaign from temple whereas communists act strictly in secular way. They do not go to touch feet of fake Sadhus unlike Congress, BJP and other regional politicians.

Because communists are atheists..... :huh: :huh: :huh:
My father in law is a Communist party member......even party flooding through his veins as blood. Since his party does not allow belief in God, all the three kids are brought up as atheists. Even if my mother in law was a Hindu before marriage, she didn't go to temple after marriage. Not even a pooja room at home.

I can't agree this principle also :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

I am also an atheist and never go to temple or perform worship. But I cannot compel others to follow me blindly. every one has own opinion and life style.

Your father in law is right in not having a worship room in his home. When believers can bring up their kids in their own way, an atheist can also. Your mother in law married a communist knowing that he was an atheist. so, all is okay.

Some ideas of left are really good. Actually left-right combination of changing the thrown in Kerala has really made it a place to live in, people having better education and good standard of living. Also weaker sections are less exploited.

Left always raises against land owners and rich people assuring better living conditions and wages to poor people. I appreciate it. But seeing private firms as only business institutions....I can't approve it. Big organizations are not coming to Kerala only because of this. Even if right put forward such ideas, including many IT developments, left won't allow them to flourish in Kerala saying big companies exploiting poor people. Their policy is that full employment should be done by government itself, and no private organizations should be allowed. Is it possible for a highly populated country to give jobs to all citizens??? Not at all.
I disagree with this policy of left

In fact, big business, big landlords and even foreign western powers discourage Left. I also do not blindly support the left. Also, I have no direct knowledge of Left rule in Kerala or other states. But I am convinced that they followed a very positive policy in national politics. They supported UPA/ Third from governments only on policy basis from outside without seeking any personal favor. On the other hand, even very tiny parties with even two members sought ministerial berths and other benefits. All party leaders dupe the people by beginning election campaign from temple whereas communists act strictly in secular way. They do not go to touch feet of fake Sadhus unlike Congress, BJP and other regional politicians.

Because communists are atheists..... :huh: :huh: :huh:
My father in law is a Communist party member......even party flooding through his veins as blood. Since his party does not allow belief in God, all the three kids are brought up as atheists. Even if my mother in law was a Hindu before marriage, she didn't go to temple after marriage. Not even a pooja room at home.

I can't agree this principle also :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

I am also an atheist and never go to temple or perform worship. But I cannot compel others to follow me blindly. every one has own opinion and life style.

Your father in law is right in not having a worship room in his home. When believers can bring up their kids in their own way, an atheist can also. Your mother in law married a communist knowing that he was an atheist. so, all is okay.

So, are you a follower of left???? :blink: :blink:

Some ideas of left are really good. Actually left-right combination of changing the thrown in Kerala has really made it a place to live in, people having better education and good standard of living. Also weaker sections are less exploited.

Left always raises against land owners and rich people assuring better living conditions and wages to poor people. I appreciate it. But seeing private firms as only business institutions....I can't approve it. Big organizations are not coming to Kerala only because of this. Even if right put forward such ideas, including many IT developments, left won't allow them to flourish in Kerala saying big companies exploiting poor people. Their policy is that full employment should be done by government itself, and no private organizations should be allowed. Is it possible for a highly populated country to give jobs to all citizens??? Not at all.
I disagree with this policy of left

In fact, big business, big landlords and even foreign western powers discourage Left. I also do not blindly support the left. Also, I have no direct knowledge of Left rule in Kerala or other states. But I am convinced that they followed a very positive policy in national politics. They supported UPA/ Third from governments only on policy basis from outside without seeking any personal favor. On the other hand, even very tiny parties with even two members sought ministerial berths and other benefits. All party leaders dupe the people by beginning election campaign from temple whereas communists act strictly in secular way. They do not go to touch feet of fake Sadhus unlike Congress, BJP and other regional politicians.

Because communists are atheists..... :huh: :huh: :huh:
My father in law is a Communist party member......even party flooding through his veins as blood. Since his party does not allow belief in God, all the three kids are brought up as atheists. Even if my mother in law was a Hindu before marriage, she didn't go to temple after marriage. Not even a pooja room at home.

I can't agree this principle also :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

I am also an atheist and never go to temple or perform worship. But I cannot compel others to follow me blindly. every one has own opinion and life style.

Your father in law is right in not having a worship room in his home. When believers can bring up their kids in their own way, an atheist can also. Your mother in law married a communist knowing that he was an atheist. so, all is okay.

So, are you a follower of left???? :blink: :blink:

Yes. But not a blind follower.

Actually left is influenced by communism, which basically means for public on mass basis or cooperative level but they got every thing through violence as no government or royal system would give any thing to public easily. I think we are moving in that direction on a fast pace.

Why conservatives or pro establishment are called 'right' and the 'anti establishment' or radical left.

Historically, peoples' representatives would sit to to left of the crown and the court officers/ ministers to his right. Hence the terms- Left and Right.

The right are considered no changers, conservatives, pro establishment

The left are considered as radical, revolutionary, anti establishment

There is degree of 'left' or 'right'. So there are extreme left, moderately left, moderates, right, extreme right.

These are shades of political opinion. No ideology is perfect. Exchange of thoughts between different ideologues brings real solutions. In a democracy, we need all shades of political and social opinion. All should be tolerant and respect each other. This ensures that nation goes in the proper direction and is protected from extremity of any kind.

Leaving imperfection of ideologies aside, it 's the glaring imperfection of followers that creates the problems. Wolves in sheep's clothing!

Let us come to politics in India. The Right is led by B.J.P. that includes various parties grouped as National Democratic alliance. Congress is a centrist party and leads various other parties collectively termed as United Progressive alliance. Most of the parties in both alliances are regional and some of these change their alliance partner just for sticking to power. The classic case is of Trinmool Congress who participated in power at center as constituent of N.D.A. and is now in U.P.A..

The left is comparatively weaker force. The left consists of C.P.I.(M), C.P.I., Forward block and Revolutionary socialist party. They perform as one block as 'Left alliance' in parliament and outside. The left had prominent role in United Front or Third Front governments led by V.P. Singh, Deve Gauda and Inder Kumar Gujaral. The left also supported first U.P.A. government. The left always supported from outside and never fought for any personal benefits or share in exploits of power. The left are relatively free from dynastic politics, regionalism,caste or religion based politics and corrupt practices. This is obvious as they are not interested in ministerial berths like others but support from outside on policy basis.

Thus the left are on higher moral pedestal and more selfless. They are also not involved in so many scams like U.P.A. and N.D.A. Their role is better for the nation. But in view of their weak organization, they are less effective. On the whole, the left are the only hope in environment of corruption, dynastic, region and caste based politics.

Thanks Gulshanji for the brief description of Indian political scenario.I take it that you are a left sympathizer.
I think everything changes once you have the power.The left may be best option today but you cannot guarantee ideological corruption once power comes to hand.World politics is full of such examples.

I agree. Russia belied Marxism and took the capitalist rule. China can by no stretch of imagination can be termed a socialist nation. There is greater disparity of income and wealth in China than other capitalist countries. North Korea is following Dynastic politics. In Cuba, Fiedel Castro 's brother was the only man whom administration could be handed over during his sickness. Every system is managed by individuals and there is every likelihood of opportunists taking over.