Center says Gay sex immoral !

This is legal and there is a ruling in its favor. I am not aware if this rule has been quashed so far. So how come any one is issuing any such statements?

This is legal and there is a ruling in its favor. I am not aware if this rule has been quashed so far. So how come any one is issuing any such statements?

Indian Penal code contains provisions against homosexuality. Delhi High court had ruled that homosexual relations between consenting individuals should not be punished. The Delhi High Court had only made the conduct non punishable and never ruled that this is not immoral. Everything that is immoral is not punishable.

Center has not taken proper stand in this matter. All have individual liberty to any type of conduct that is consensual and not coercive. This has nothing to do with morality issue, which is different.

http://in.news.yahoo.com/the-big-q--are-we-a-tolerant-nation-.html

http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report_govt-wont-take-firm-position-on-homosexuality_1654057

Kindly see the article on this issue:

http://www.boddunan.com/miscellaneous/51-General%20Reference/478-controversy-on-homosexuality.html

This is all about how one acts within the privacy of his/her four walls. As long as this is not indecent and in public places against the will and with consent of both the parties, there is nothing wrong. I am least bothered how one reacts, I am not a party any way.

i don't know what court said but this should not be punishable at all as any sexual deed which is done with the consent of partners but not publically done shouldn't be a punishable thing. :)

This is the personal issue and no need to interfere in such things unless it is disturbing or harming anyone.

Sanjeev wrote-
[quote]i don't know what court said but this should not be punishable at all as any sexual deed which is done with the consent of partners but not publically done shouldn't be a punishable thing.[/quote]
Yes you are right.

Many agencies are working to prevent gay sex due to its health hazards in society.Making it lawful will be dangerous.

Many agencies are working to prevent gay sex due to its health hazards in society.Making it lawful will be dangerous.

Nobody is going to make gay sex lawful or moral. The High court Delhi only ruled that there should be no punishment for this.

The changing stand of government on decriminalization of gay sex arises from implication of Delhi High court judgment. There is no issue of morality. The court never said that this is moral. The issue is whether gay sex should be punished. This is a personal matter between consenting adults. Moral or immoral, no coercion against any one is involved. Hence this should not be punishable. That is what Delhi High Court ruled. The correct stand is that gay sex is not socially acceptable and not considered immoral but this is between consenting adults and hence not punishable. There are many other bad things that are not punished. Even kiss and embrace between unmarried couple is improper. But there is no punishment for this.

Supreme Court has rightly pulled up Union government for changing stand in the issue.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/SC-pulls-up-Centre-for-shifting-stand-on-homosexuality/articleshow/12066974.cms

It's only my personal opinion.
According to Indian constitution, any person above 18 years has the right to choose life partner.
We normal people are thinking and seeing things only through our eyes. That's the problem.
Gay people can't live happy if they choose persons of opposite sex. It will only end in disaster. I read one or two articles, seen one feature in TV also, which made me think, "We should understand them also. If they feel attraction to people only of his/her sex, it is not their fault. Its because they have certain defects in them and we people should understand them."
So, I personally believe there is no wrong in guy marriages. :)

It's only my personal opinion.
According to Indian constitution, any person above 18 years has the right to choose life partner.
We normal people are thinking and seeing things only through our eyes. That's the problem.
Gay people can't live happy if they choose persons of opposite sex. It will only end in disaster. I read one or two articles, seen one feature in TV also, which made me think, "We should understand them also. If they feel attraction to people only of his/her sex, it is not their fault. Its because they have certain defects in them and we people should understand them."
So, I personally believe there is no wrong in guy marriages. :)

Gay/ lesbian may live together as same sex partners. they should not be penalized or harassed. But this is not acceptable as a norm for most people. This trend is not healthy and we should avoid this. As rightly stated, we need understand psyche of gay/ lesbian. However, they cannot be model for others to follow.

Supreme court has again scolded union government for not doing home work properly before appearing in supreme court.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-news/NewDelhi/SC-scolds-govt-demands-latest-data-of-LGBT-population-in-India/Article1-819213.aspx

I wish members not to encourage such threads

I wish members not to encourage such threads

Sarala, I don't think there is nothing wrong discussing such sensitive issues unless any vulgar discussion happen. Just my 2 cents.

making things hidden is like making things more curious. that is why most sexual crimes happen in our country, just because we lack education or discussion such sensitive issues. teenagers in our country still find such things from the wrong channels.

@Maverick, thanks for unlocking this thread for discussion!

[quote]making things hidden is like making things more curious. that is why most sexual crimes happen in our country, just because we lack education or discussion such sensitive issues. teenagers in our country still find such things from the wrong channels. [/quote]

You have hit it bang on Sunil! Actually the more such issues are depressed and buried under the ground, the more they pop up with ugly consequences! For a fact, countries like Denmark and Holland have made pornography and prostitution legal trades and there is almost zero percentage of sex crimes in those countries. Where we speak more of morality and protecting chastities in women, our sexual crime rates are shockingly high, this very difference speaks volumes regarding these issues!

I wish members not to encourage such threads

The issue is one concerning nation, judiciary and union government and is before the supreme court. Such thread cannot be considered vulgar.

The Union government is ashamed of the way the issue was wrongly represented in apex court.

http://in.news.yahoo.com/-ashamed--of-gay-sex--goof-up-.html

It has nothing to do with vulgarity and underlines a subject which raises serious questions as to personal liberty and exposes the government in medieval mindset!!

[quote]sarala wrote:
I wish members not to encourage such threads


The issue is one concerning nation, judiciary and union government and is before the supreme court. Such thread cannot be considered vulgar.

The Union government is ashamed of the way the issue was wrongly represented in apex court[/quote]

Which is why I got this reopened!

[quote]It has nothing to do with vulgarity and underlines a subject which raises serious questions as to personal liberty and exposes the government in medieval mindset!! [/quote]

Chinmoy, you are right! This is indeed a sensitive issue and then again, why cannot these be discussed, so long as there is no vulgarity of any sort. and also the fact these people are entitled to choose their partners as they so wish.

After all, even normal people who are in to straight sex are not averse from any kind of unpleasant tendencies, and this type of relationship is natural.

also each person has his or her preference where sexuality is concerned, it is of no business to comment on such things as being immoral and vulgar!

[quote]It has nothing to do with vulgarity and underlines a subject which raises serious questions as to personal liberty and exposes the government in medieval mindset!!

Chinmoy, you are right! This is indeed a sensitive issue and then again, why cannot these be discussed, so long as there is no vulgarity of any sort. and also the fact these people are entitled to choose their partners as they so wish.

After all, even normal people who are in to straight sex are not averse from any kind of unpleasant tendencies, and this type of relationship is natural.

also each person has his or her preference where sexuality is concerned, it is of no business to comment on such things as being immoral and vulgar![/quote]

Indeed, sexuality is highly individualistic and there are many deviation from the normal. This is a matter for psychologists and sociologists and state or law should interfere only when relation is non consensual and coercive. Thus rape, even though straight, needs state intervention but not consensual gay/ lesbian.