Group Discussion Contest - December 10 to December 31

The biometric Inique Identification Number issuing project named ADHAR is creating controversies day by day.Today it was reported that the project may discard.So what is your opinion on this project.share it here and be active in discussion.

ADHAR project is Right.

* It has full details of a perticular person in a single card.
* It will avoid duplication and frauds.
* Kepping a single card with all information is good.
* This card has been used for all identification proofs.

ADHAR project is Right.

* It has full details of a perticular person in a single card.
* It will avoid duplication and frauds.
* Kepping a single card with all information is good.
* This card has been used for all identification proofs.

Actually, adhar is not a card but a number. This number may be quoted for various purposes- govt. social security and health benefits, bank account, railway reservation etc. A parliamentary committee has raised objection on the project because of high costs. Already heavy amount has been spent and if the committee view is expected and project discarded, the amount already spent will go waste. It was wrong to implement the project before getting report and recommendation from the parliamentary committee and deciding on that. It goes to show that the government does not take the parliamentary committees seriously and thinks these these are just a useless formality.

Though the project is meant for a unique identification , it is too soon to implement it. The existing means of identification has to be made stronger and then the UID has to be implemented on personal opt in basis. People who do not wish to give their personal details may consider this as privacy issue as there is always a chance of fraud using the complete details of data. A vast secure system should be in place considering the ways the data can be misused.

The unique identification number is based on the system of Social Security Number in USA> This unique number is given to person upon registration of his/her birth and remains as his identity for life. The number is actually an account of his/her personal records where everything from his education history, work history, petty crimes committed such as breaking traffic signals etc. to which all places the person has moved around in and outside the country. Bringing such a system to India, and ensuring it works efficiently will help bring down illegal immigrations in metro cities such as Calcutta, Mumbai etc.

After such a long period of initialization and recording of people's biometric identities and personal details, the project should not be scrapped! It will be a futile effort and will mean crores gone waste!

Though scrapping the project entirely is not a good solution, the project can be tested on pilot basis in metro cities first and then implemented for other areas of states. It can implemented for identification in banks, gas distribution , ration card and depending on success measured it can be implemented for other forms of identification. If banks refuse to accept a UID on par with a passport or voter card there is no point in getting UID first and people who got UID are bound to feel it scrappy

In many countries there is unique identification number.But in India all system has loopholes.So people had a negative thought that all these data may be used for some other purpose especially for discrimination.That is why most of the people keep away from the project.What are your opinion?

Actually, adhar is not a card but a number. This number may be quoted for various purposes- govt. social security and health benefits, bank account, railway reservation etc. A parliamentary committee has raised objection on the project because of high costs. Already heavy amount has been spent and if the committee view is expected and project discarded, the amount already spent will go waste. It was wrong to implement the project before getting report and recommendation from the parliamentary committee and deciding on that. It goes to show that the government does not take the parliamentary committees seriously and thinks these these are just a useless formality.

the money and time spend by the government on this idea should not go futile.at this stage government should try to get the support from this parliamentary committees.the efforts done till now should not go waste.

In many countries there is unique identification number.But in India all system has loopholes.So people had a negative thought that all these data may be used for some other purpose especially for discrimination.That is why most of the people keep away from the project.What are your opinion?

an issue in this regard is that the indian aadhar system is purely based on strict matching [ not like the fuzzy matching used in many countries}strict matching has been implemented as a means to strike out any loop holes in this system.but this strict matching technology itself causes a lot of problems.

for any sort of document verifications you need not provide any address proof.just the aadhar number would be enough. the system would check your details and report whether you are eligible or not.but strict matching used here can strike down a perfectly genuine person with the same address if any small differences are made in the address. we all know how fragile the address system of the country is particularly in the south where we have a system of house names and not house numbers. this could be a real headache foe the authorities.

it seems like the main issue with the aadhar these days is the issue of collection of data by aadhar registrars apart from the census boards and national population registrar. the home ministry is now questioning the data security issues of this collected data.while nndan nilakeni ensures that all the data will be safe.

1. there is still complaints from the citizens regarding the delay in number allocation.
2. the new UID software mis matches with many of the states present software.

Adhar project is started or establish in 1989 in the favor of helping or support the people suffering with mental problem.
Adhar is a indian word that means support.

So it will become more easy to identify a person by Adhar registration.Then why people fight against it ?Don't they want to be identified?

In many countries there is unique identification number.But in India all system has loopholes.So people had a negative thought that all these data may be used for some other purpose especially for discrimination.That is why most of the people keep away from the project.What are your opinion?

an issue in this regard is that the indian aadhar system is purely based on strict matching [ not like the fuzzy matching used in many countries}strict matching has been implemented as a means to strike out any loop holes in this system.but this strict matching technology itself causes a lot of problems.

for any sort of document verifications you need not provide any address proof.just the aadhar number would be enough. the system would check your details and report whether you are eligible or not.but strict matching used here can strike down a perfectly genuine person with the same address if any small differences are made in the address. we all know how fragile the address system of the country is particularly in the south where we have a system of house names and not house numbers. this could be a real headache foe the authorities.

I share concern on strict matching system. It is rightly pointed that the address system is not so perfect. In villages, there are no house numbers and so the difficulty. Even in my residential area at Agra, there are many houses with same house number differentiating only with addition of 'a' or 'B'. There are also persons with identical or similar names and can be differentiated only by father's name. The system needs a change.

So it will become more easy to identify a person by Adhar registration.Then why people fight against it ?Don't they want to be identified?

main problems that are being debated against aadhar are:

1. government allowed UID to operate for almost three years without seeking legal cover
2. Illegal immigrants too could get Aadhar cards issued by the UID project, helping them avail of social sector schemes and putting them on an eventual path to citizenship.
3. There is no feasibility study of the project
4. It is built on unreliable and untested technology
5. There is lack of coordination and difference of views between various departments and ministries of government on the project

You are right Deepak.Before starting any project a feasibility study is highly essential.Here it seems the project started in a hurry for some thing.So people approached it with a doubt.It is still continuing.Government has to clarify the doubts of citizen first to make it successful.

There should be integrated action for census and adhar card. The photographs, figure prints and other identifiable marks as well as necessary data should be collected during the process of census itself. this will ensure best utilization of resources and also there will be no discrepancy between census figures and that collected by Adhar card staff.

I think this system will help our administration for security as a person will be a unique number.To tress a man it will help.In other sense many citizen have no photo identity card.It will help to identify anybody.

I think that our government donot have idea that how much it costs so they started but now due to money crises they want to stop it.How they are wasting our money in a simple way.

The discussion is not coming up as it is discussed in common public.So the date of GD is extending upto 31st December.Come on friends , discuss it deeply.

The project is unreliable mainly because of the lack of reliability. My family of 3 had gone for registration and it was only me who got the card till now. There is no improvement in mechanism being followed even in existing system. The voter card being given and the aadhar card being given appears to be same. People can't even distinguish this project from earlier ones owing to the lack of seriousness