Minister slapped- anarchy replacing democracy

Hey guys just leave it about that and be funny about discussions so they will be interest.

Hey guys just leave it about that and be funny about discussions so they will be interest.

thee is nothing here sasikanth...chinmoy and many others are a great fan of anna hazare and his movements..

i was one ..but now i am not...the matter is over..

Every one will have their own opinion on their heroes all will get angry when some body talked about them.

Hey guys just leave it about that and be funny about discussions so they will be interest.

thee is nothing here sasikanth...chinmoy and many others are a great fan of anna hazare and his movements..

i was one ..but now i am not...the matter is over..

As intelligent citizens of India, we should neither be fan nor blind opponent of any one. Anna has many achievements to his credit. he is recipient of Padma Vibushan award. He also rightly raised his voice against corruption and pleaded for a strong Lok pal Bill.

But he is too adamant and strives to dictate to people, parliament and government. This is back seat driving that is not acceptable. Nobody can expect that whatever he says will be accepted in toto. The five or six persons in anna team cannot claim to have all the talent and treat others as total fools or wicked. They cannot usurp the functions of parliament and create conditions of anarchy and disorder in the event of non acceptance of their demand or view verbatim. Their views may be respected but they cannot expect that what they say will be considered as Gospel truth that must be dittoed by all.

The Union cabinet have approved anti graft legislation. Lok Pal Bill is also in process. Now team anna has no reasonable ground to hold further rallies or fast. They may press for their views but it is too much to blackmail nation, parliament and government with their agitation. It is also a ridiculous claim to say that mere Lok pal Bill will remove corruption. There is already mechanism for fighting corruption. But most of corruption is consensus and parties in the unlawful transaction are equally benefited. In such cases, nobody complains.

Team anna wants that citizen charter and whistle blower bill should be invariabley a part of Lok pal Bill. They cannot dictate legislation word by word with comma, semi column and full stop.

The relevant links are below:

http://in.news.yahoo.com/government-okays-key-anti-graft-bills-to-counter-anna-threat-.html

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/citizens-charter-shouldnt-be-separate-anna/211711-37-64.html

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/lokpal-allparty-meet-will-there-be-a-consensus/211682-37-64.html

that is one of the best explanations to the problem of anna hazare and corruption...........

I agree that different perceptions are possible of different persons. What is being interpreted as 'obstinacy' might be also interpreted as 'tencaity' by some! If Anna achieves even 50% of what has demanded for the country - not for himself- the battle is won for the common man. Let us not forget that the kind of judicial activism that the Supreme Court displayed in unearthing several scams and scandals could not have come to light but for the 'obstinacy' of the Court. What is order and what is disorder also admits of different interpretations. Once one of our late prime ministers still holding his office famously remarked that out of one rupee spent by the government only a few paisas reach to the ultimate target! And Anna's emrgence in a scenario like this is more of a blessing than a curse! The harder the bargain he successfully drives the better for this corruption-ridden country!

ANNA has achieved what he has aimed at...lokpal bill is ready and now The govt has agreed to a slew of anti-graft bills to tackle corruption at high places, including in the judiciary.

If that's so I am the happiest person and let us see further developments in this regard!

let the parliament take its time to graft the bill. thee is no need to rush it...anna hazare indefinite fast from dec. 27 is not needed...

I am not yet in the know of his official reaction on the part of Anna Hazare, if he is relatively satisfied then there is hardly any need to continue with his fast. But the million dollar question is: Are the political parties agreed on the present bill?

I am not yet in the know of his official reaction on the part of Anna Hazare, if he is relatively satisfied then there is hardly any need to continue with his fast. But the million dollar question is: Are the political parties agreed on the present bill?

not sure of their reactions...you cannot pass any bill with the full agreement of all the political parties...majority would be enough....

If they are confident of getting the majority what is stopping them?

frankly ...i am fed up of this whole anna hazare and corruption episode..if i was the p.m i would have accepted all the clauses of anna hazare and would have been gone foe a good nights sleep... :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[quote]I agree that different perceptions are possible of different persons. What is being interpreted as 'obstinacy' might be also interpreted as 'tencaity' by some! If Anna achieves even 50% of what has demanded for the country - not for himself- the battle is won for the common man. Let us not forget that the kind of judicial activism that the Supreme Court displayed in unearthing several scams and scandals could not have come to light but for the 'obstinacy' of the Court. What is order and what is disorder also admits of different interpretations. Once one of our late prime ministers still holding his office famously remarked that out of one rupee spent by the government only a few paisas reach to the ultimate target! And Anna's emrgence in a scenario like this is more of a blessing than a curse! The harder the bargain he successfully drives the better for this corruption-ridden country! [/quote]

No one else could have summed it up so nicely! I just hope that now they have agreed upon it, they don't come up with something else to further delay the bill from being passed!

I am not yet in the know of his official reaction on the part of Anna Hazare, if he is relatively satisfied then there is hardly any need to continue with his fast. But the million dollar question is: Are the political parties agreed on the present bill?

not sure of their reactions...you cannot pass any bill with the full agreement of all the political parties...majority would be enough....

I agree. When there is not full agreement with all, majority decisions is taken. That is why UPA constituents meeting has been held yesterday. Today there will be meeting with opposition parties also. The attempt is to get agreement of as many parties as possible. Ultimately the bill will be passed with majority support.

Thanks Kalyani! Now I hear BJP and some other parties' serious reservations on the present bill! Would you call it 'Anna effect'?

Oh thats a great news the political parties are showing interest on Lokpall bill.

anna hazare update:
Anna Hazare has said that the ongoing winter session of Parliament should be extended to pass Lokpal Bill and threatened to go on a hunger strike if it is not introduced soon.

Some MPs too have expressed similar views on extension of the session!