self study or tought study

That's indeed,true! Our system is outdated and it needs a thorough overhaul.

Who studies for knowledge? These 4 year of B.tech,i have learned various things,but those knowledge,goes away from our mind,as each semester pass by.

Its that Goal,to get so and so marks,gives you an hunger to study. So,that should be there.

Let us agree to disagree!!

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Chinmoyjee you are very clever.

I have not tried to be clever. I just made comments based on experience. Marks are supposed to be indicators of one's depth of knowledge. Though not true all the time! Wearing royal robes won't make one a king or queen! We are respected or disrespected for our knowledge and ignorance, here marks won't take one too far!! It is truer in the case of applied fields like science,technology and medicine. An engineer has to deliver on the filed and he or she can't hide behind marks for non-performance!

You are write sir,MARKS.Marks is the only problem in our country. Everyone in the race to get marks. If we won't get marks we won't get a good job.But,what about the talent,which that person has,his capability,his ability.
Let me tell whatever i studied in 4 years in B.tech,most of thing was the waste,to be an software engineer,i don't need the knowledge of chemistry,physics,Drawing,microprocessor,Electronics extra and extra. I just need the knowledge of Languages like JAVA,C,C++,ASP,PHP. That's it !
Ask any software engineer,he will tell thesethings which i am telling.
What a system of education we are having ? I am frustrated.
Only the studies,which come in final year is more important and would be useful in future.

Of course, I agree with you.

Watch 3 idiots 100 times....it may help you :P :P :P

Ok...coming to our Topic.......yes....present technology is based on JAVA and NET s/w. But I was trying to solve a microprocessor problem in my 4th semester and Fortran in first semester, which is not at all used in any s/w firm. Java also, I have done for only one semester. While I did final project in J2EE, I have to study it from outside.
Also, an important problem faced by IT professionals is they get only a basic knowledge and program logic at their academy studies.....which are not at all implemented in any time later. When a company recruits some person, he is given practical knowledge of a new s/w.
Also, if we want job in a good company we should study Main frame, PHP or anything from another s/w institution paying 1000s or lakhs. Otherwise, (In technopark, TVM) we have to work 1 year free giving 1 lakh or 2 lakh to study a new s/w and doing their project without getting any remuneration in return :(

I think both are required as no body can learn anything without a Guru.One has to have someone who can teach him the basics rest is self study. :)

I think both are required as no body can learn anything without a Guru.One has to have someone who can teach him the basics rest is self study. :)

But I don't think, nowadays, students get that basics from colleges..... :huh:

I think both are required as no body can learn anything without a Guru.One has to have someone who can teach him the basics rest is self study. :)

But I don't think, nowadays, students get that basics from colleges..... :huh:

It depends on college to college.But in colleges Gurus don't teach much and students nave to do self study more. :)

Some times one feels lost even in real life while there is no one around to guide him. A teacher is must for proper guidance.

Not in study in life also everyone require someone who can guide them when they need it. :)

Not in study in life also everyone require someone who can guide them when they need it. :)

One can not learn technical subjects which need so many clarification and guidance without an instructor.

As I perceive it, the whole problem stems from the fact that students these days rely more on notes and suggestion and these make them perpetually dependent on their tutors and that effectively destroys one's creativity and originality.

Some subjects can study self but some subjects we cannot study self.

Not in study in life also everyone require someone who can guide them when they need it. :)

One can not learn technical subjects which need so many clarification and guidance without an instructor.

Yes technical subjects definitely needs a teacher like in engineering we used to learn Engineering Drawing which one cannot learn by himself one needs teacher to teach it. :)

Not only in engineering but most of the subjects if taught by able teachers should bring best results. But 'Chalta hai attitude' has marred the basics of study.

Not only in engineering but most of the subjects if taught by able teachers should bring best results. But 'Chalta hai attitude' has marred the basics of study.

Able teachers but we don't find them these days in colleges. :laugh:

I am lucky that way, I do not have to study these days. Besides I did go to best of them. Allahabad and Bangalore.

In Delhi i studied in one of the best school so the teachers were well qualified but in college some of the teachers were not good they knew little about the subject so we had to do more self study in those subjects. :)

self study and tough study, both are important for a student. Because our study need both kinds of study

Some times one feels lost even in real life while there is no one around to guide him. A teacher is must for proper guidance.

There is another aspect. With self study you may get an answer after spending more time and efforts. A teacher will clear the doubt immediately. So, teacher is important.

I think that the correct spelling is 'taught' and not 'tought'.

I think both are equally important because without self study we can't achieve success and vice-versa without the guidance of teachers we can't succeeded.

I think both are equally important because without self study we can't achieve success and vice-versa without the guidance of teachers we can't succeeded.

Yes it depends on the situation when someone study a new topic he/she may need someone's guidance otherwise self study is enough till he/she faces a problem in it. :)

Ya i am fully agree with you my bro but i suggest as far as self study going it should be carried..............