The greatest Sporting event Olympics is going to start from August 5. PM flagged off this event. The spirit of Olympics is, 'It's not the Win that matters. But participation matters.'
http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/narendra-modi-flags-off-run-for-rio/article8924532.ece
Sunil seems to be confused. Singapore is a city state with a limited population with no baggage of expenditures on defence etc to bother about. No poor persons are there and so on. china is a dictatorially run country where individual liberties have no meaning. In the last century they were mercilessly training there few players in TT and badminton to prove that Communism is good form of social order. Now they are only communist in name. When our societies achievements are so few and far in between it is a natural urge to expect players to win so that we can bask in their glory and feel respected. When they fail we feel let down because of our selfish reasons.
Medals do matter and when India fails to win medal then it is undoubtedly a very sad moment but we should remember that the athletes who do not win become more upset than the supporters. People like Shobha De can spit venom only because she had never undergone that pressure. Let's hope for the best and good luck to the Indian athletes. Indian women's hockey team is in this Olympic after 36 years which is in itself an achievement. We can't expect wonders to take place all of a sudden. Yes, our sports administration must rectify their faults and promote sports in a genuine way.
I'm not not interested in Comparisons. It's India and the problem lies within India. I was following the Olympics ever since I remember, through Radios in the grand olden Days and through TVs in the present times. Comparatively, I can say the present participants in Olympics are thousand times better than the previous times. And I'm sure, in the following Days, we are in for many surprises.
Wonders can happen if there is a commitment and necessary steps are taken towards achieving it which is totally lacking in the Indian context..The Netas have not changed a bit since the time India got its independence and where everyone was equal but some were more equal..
The precedent that Congress set then continues with some minor little changes ..I was reading a tweet by one of the contestants who was flying on an international flight for the first time. She says that since she is flying economy class , she was all alone and the manager and a few officials were al flying business class. She was nervous since noone was there to receive her and guide her when she arrived at Rio..It was the airport staff that made an announcement and found help for her ! Pathetic indeed..
One can never blame the sportsperson but the officialdom that is so taken in with its own importance and how best it could use the occasion to its advantage , thats where our country fails ! Shoba de got it wrong because she targeted the players instead of the people behind the show!
I was watching the Olympic live shows on TV, almost regularly. Yesterday, I was really astonished to see Atanu Das of India beating Cuba in the Archery individual event with ease and elan. Another event is men's Hockey team. The entire Team played as a single unit , put up a splendid performance and beaten Argentina. On another side, the First timer Deepa Karmakar had shot in to finals in the Gymnastics. Such feat is rare for a rank new comer.
Seeing all this, I feel this time, the Pre Olympic training facilities are far better than earlier times. If it is true, I think in the days to come we are going to hear about many miracles in Rio.
Okay I am confused and Singapore is a city state but we have many city states like Chandigarh, Delhi etc in our country that have all the modern facilities and no burden of supporting army etc which could be used as good platform for developing good athletes. But the mentality that we will not improve has put us in a mindset which reflects in certain members' posts.
The time has come we should take strict measurements rather than feeling proud in "we also ran"
"We also ran" mentality has gone now. More than mentality and basic infrastructure , the candidate's will to Win and undergo the painful regimen involved in Training is essential. Without which, no amount of infrastructure or facilities will work. In the present contingent a few athletes came from a family that supported their wards to take up Sports. This support combined with Steely determination alone works.This itself is an indication of changing mentality of the people. just wait and see, after seeing the promising performance of some of our Athletes like Atanu Das and Deepa karmakar, how the attitude of both parents and Society would change.
I'm not saying that India will win several Golds this time. But what I want t say is it's the beginning of new trend, that's much needed.
usha manohar wrote:Wonders can happen if there is a commitment and necessary steps are taken towards achieving it which is totally lacking in the Indian context..The Netas have not changed a bit since the time India got its independence and where everyone was equal but some were more equal..
The precedent that Congress set then continues with some minor little changes ..I was reading a tweet by one of the contestants who was flying on an international flight for the first time. She says that since she is flying economy class , she was all alone and the manager and a few officials were al flying business class. She was nervous since noone was there to receive her and guide her when she arrived at Rio..It was the airport staff that made an announcement and found help for her ! Pathetic indeed..
One can never blame the sportsperson but the officialdom that is so taken in with its own importance and how best it could use the occasion to its advantage , thats where our country fails ! Shoba de got it wrong because she targeted the players instead of the people behind the show!
She was literally rude and should be extremely criticised. Such officials should be punished. India going as one unit to Olympics is in reality not a single unit as the officers treat them as subordinates. Such administrators should be kicked out.
anil wrote:usha manohar wrote:In mens hockey it was Germany that won against India not Britain... it almost looks as if we may win just the odd bronze medal if at all
Game of India was not poor against Germany, they scored victory gol in last 3 seconds.
We need to find excuses no doubt, however it goes to show how much importance our previous governments have given for the sporting events other than cricket ! It makes you feel ashamed to think that even a developing nation like Thailand which relies heavily on tourism for its income ,managed to get 4 medals already ..
Shampa Sadhya Wrote:
She was literally rude and should be extremely criticised. Such officials should be punished. India going as one unit to Olympics is in reality not a single unit as the officers treat them as subordinates. Such administrators should be kicked out.
Is she an administrator with the Olympics team? Now this is a new one for me. What are her qualifications exactly to be in that role? Or even to make such comments about the players? I really wonder!
usha manohar wrote:anil wrote:usha manohar wrote:In mens hockey it was Germany that won against India not Britain... it almost looks as if we may win just the odd bronze medal if at all
Game of India was not poor against Germany, they scored victory gol in last 3 seconds.
We need to find excuses no doubt, however it goes to show how much importance our previous governments have given for the sporting events other than cricket ! It makes you feel ashamed to think that even a developing nation like Thailand which relies heavily on tourism for its income ,managed to get 4 medals already ..
Yes most of sports lover are feeling ashamed. India is country where all polices changed with change of government, so here long term plan for sports activities is impossible.
Frankly sports is a matter of shame for the country as we can win just a medal or two with a population of 1200 million and China with a similar populations wins 400. The reason is the poor national health and diet. So at the grassroots, there is no protein and nourishing food. That's why I say first feed the people before grandiose projects like the bullet train and Mars probe.
MG Singh wrote:Frankly sports is a matter of shame for the country as we can win just a medal or two with a population of 1200 million and China with a similar populations wins 400. The reason is the poor national health and diet. So at the grassroots, there is no protein and nourishing food. That's why I say first feed the people before grandiose projects like the bullet train and Mars probe.
I agree with you. It's only when Olympics come once in Four years, we talk about,Population- size of the country -No. of Medals etc. Once the Olympics are over, again, the issue goes back to square no. 1.
My question is, why all these thoughts will surface up only when the issue comes and stands before you ? I'm of the opinion, instead of solving the problem just on the surface, ignoring the roots, will never never solve such issues.
Now as you said, the system should be made stronger and healthier from the foundation itself. A Healthy Nation alone can bring out the excellence from its citizens. First things first. The Country has to be very specific about its preferences and Objectives. Then things will fall out in to their respective places like in a Jigsaw Puzzle.
MG Singh wrote:Frankly sports is a matter of shame for the country as we can win just a medal or two with a population of 1200 million and China with a similar populations wins 400. The reason is the poor national health and diet. So at the grassroots, there is no protein and nourishing food. That's why I say first feed the people before grandiose projects like the bullet train and Mars probe.
I agree with you that poor diet is behind our failures on the international sports scene. In spite of India claiming to become a superpower, there are many identified regions with malnutrition still existing. But for that issue to be addressed, simply taking off investments from science and developments projects will not help any how. The poor people, instead of spending money on proper food, still prefer to spend money on Bollywood tickets. Otherwise, why would stupid and totally horrible movies like Sultan, Kabali etc. do business worth Rs. 100 crores in just 2-3 weeks? Even if money is taken off of such projects, what guarantee is there that it would reach the poor? Already children from poor families are getting (or not) the midday meals, a major portion of which, goes into the pockets of contractors and corrupt officials.
Can anything be more embarrassing and annoying than this? On the one hand our contestants are yet to show results and we have this kind of behavior which is typical of our politicians s and this is not the first time this is happening either since the mindset has been stamped since a few decades , shameful ! It is good that now with the media exposure this is has been highlighted..
But some of our respected members will still think that medal is not important but participation is as good as winning medals. That means all the countries doing all the hard work and spending lots of monies are fools. They do not look at the motto of the Olympics nor respect it but try to grab as many meddles as they can. THEY ARE SELFISH WHO DO NOT RESPECT THE VERY AIM OF THE OLYMPIC GAMES.
vijay wrote:When the country is third rate how can sportspersons be first rate? It is unfair expectation.
we may not make too much expectation but participation is for success. The best thing to do is to send a smaller contingent with extraordinary talent. Select a small team for participation and train best way. Participate in fewer events but excel on them.
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