'How can some exercise be taken as a test of nationalism?'

How can derecognising Madarasas cripple the MUslim community? they themselves have done enough harm to themselves by clinging to their age-old beliefs and traditions and not joining the mainstream community. Owaisi's comments need not be taken seriously as we know what he is actually. He is a descendent of Razakars, hellbent on causing harm to Hindus, and can only spread further chaos, by taking funds from Saudi Arabia! There is no need to even discuss his comments!

True Kalyani. We all know who is Qwaisi and what's his background. He worked for Nizam who was a staunch Hindu hater. These Razakars unleashed reign of terror until the Police action undertaken by Sardar Patel after independence.

The problem with people like Owaisi and his kind is that they think they have a strong minority weapon which they can use as and when they feel like...If they keep religion out of every issue things would be vastly different and better for them..Why should Madrasas be funded? are they doing any good for the nation? And more importantly how can you call funding Madrasas development of the community ? In fact none of the religious schools should be funded by any governent since religion is a private matter

usha manohar wrote:

The problem with people like Owaisi and his kind is that they think they have a strong minority weapon which they can use as and when they feel like...If they keep religion out of every issue things would be vastly different and better for them..Why should Madrasas be funded? are they doing any good for the nation? And more importantly how can you call funding Madrasas development of the community ? In fact none of the religious schools should be funded by any governent since religion is a private matter

Exactly...and education for all children, irrespective of their religion or caste should be common and same for everyone. also merit and personal skills and talent should be criteria for admission to higher education courses and jobs, and not religion. People like Owaisi only pursue their own personal agenda and push the minority card to their own benefit and personal gain.

In Southern states especially in AP even the Muslims are not favoring Madarsas. They came to know the Madarsa education is not going to provide an employment. At the most Madarsa education is useful to read Namaz every morning in the Mosques. Owaisi is a fanatic and his remarks can be brushed away.

He always talks with no sense at all and all his words does not make sense, as state government has no plan to ban madrasas, but it is all about modernization as how come the same age old traditional reading be recognition as same as modern education. About beef ban it is inside derivative principles of Indian constitution and it advises such so there is no unconstitutional in it. Indirectly in most of states, due to advent of Owaisi the so called minority votes really divided and becomes null and void and secular brigades are really afraid of it and it is this party which is eating out their votes as recent elections in Maharashtra saw this. 

The minorities are different in my state AP. No Muslim eats beef. No Muslim sends his children to Madarsas as there are almost nil here. And finally Muslims do not believe in multiplying their families. This is according to a Muslim Paan Walah in my locality.

There are religion based education institutes even of hindus including saraswati schools of RSS.  So no question of banning Madarasas. However all institutes and schools should teach English, Maths, Science in addition to religious teaching. 

Though they are religion based educational institutions, without the necessary subjects prescribed by the state or the central government, they are useless. Instead such religion based institutions manufacture religious fanatics of Mullahs and Babas.

The Sarswati schools called SSM are non religious but patriotic and can never be compared with Madrasas which concentrate on brainwashing the students and make them hard core believers.The Congress government in a bid to garner support actively encourages this.

http://topyaps.com/saraswati-shishu-mandir-facts

In my street there was a large compound with an old house , the owners living abroad . One fine day the place was cleaned up and classes were held.A board was put up saying it is Islamic school of learning.Since I know the owners, I called up the lady and asked her if she had sold or rented out the property and she was shocked when she heard about the developments. She came to India and it was real battle for her to get them out since they had certificates given by the local MLA and a minister from the state government who were both pressurising her to sell the property to the Islamic school , (a local goonda, we came to know later ) but since the entire neighborhood was with her she managed to oust them and sell her property to a developer who is now building an apartment block...I blame the politician for increase in Islamic terrorism in our country.

The lady was lucky to get back her property. Anyhow any school be it a Madarsa or patriotic school, the curriculum framed by Maharashtra government has to be followed.. Otherwise they will be decognized..An education system should be able to provide opportunities for higher studies or to open employment opportunities. No religious school offer such opportunities.

usha manohar wrote:

The Sarswati schools called SSM are non religious but patriotic and can never be compared with Madrasas which concentrate on brainwashing the students and make them hard core believers.The Congress government in a bid to garner support actively encourages this.

http://topyaps.com/saraswati-shishu-mandir-facts

In my street there was a large compound with an old house , the owners living abroad . One fine day the place was cleaned up and classes were held.A board was put up saying it is Islamic school of learning.Since I know the owners, I called up the lady and asked her if she had sold or rented out the property and she was shocked when she heard about the developments. She came to India and it was real battle for her to get them out since they had certificates given by the local MLA and a minister from the state government who were both pressurising her to sell the property to the Islamic school , (a local goonda, we came to know later ) but since the entire neighborhood was with her she managed to oust them and sell her property to a developer who is now building an apartment block...I blame the politician for increase in Islamic terrorism in our country.

 

So that is how they operate?? Most madarasas focus mainly on brainwashing their children and making them hate all kafirs, So is the Maharashtra govt. wants to put a stop to it, they are not doing anything wrong in the least!

Maharashtra government's decision was hailed by many Muslim bodies too. Maharashtra government without raising any aspects about the activities of Madarsas, it simply said those schools which are not complying withe curriculum of the Education department like Madarsas will be derecognized.

Gulshan Kumar Ajmani wrote:

There are religion based education institutes even of hindus including saraswati schools of RSS.  So no question of banning Madarasas. However all institutes and schools should teach English, Maths, Science in addition to religious teaching. 

 

Sir, Swarswati Shishu Mandirs are no religious schools but they teach the same syllabus as prescribed by the government. And You will be surprised to know that the students from these schools always find the place in toppers of every state.

suni51 wrote:

Gulshan Kumar Ajmani wrote:

There are religion based education institutes even of hindus including saraswati schools of RSS.  So no question of banning Madarasas. However all institutes and schools should teach English, Maths, Science in addition to religious teaching. 

 

Sir, Swarswati Shishu Mandirs are no religious schools but they teach the same syllabus as prescribed by the government. And You will be surprised to know that the students from these schools always find the place in toppers of every state.

 

Ah.. it's a good update. I thought all along  Saraswati Shishu Mandir is also a religion based schools like Madarsas. Anyhow I reiterate Madarsa  derecognition is well justified.

There is nothing wrong in running a religious school, provided they do not spread hatred for other reilgions and also follow the prescribed courses. 

There is nothing wrong in religious schools. Only thing is the pupils of these schools will not be eligible for higher education.

rambabu wrote:

suni51 wrote:

Gulshan Kumar Ajmani wrote:

There are religion based education institutes even of hindus including saraswati schools of RSS.  So no question of banning Madarasas. However all institutes and schools should teach English, Maths, Science in addition to religious teaching. 

 

Sir, Swarswati Shishu Mandirs are no religious schools but they teach the same syllabus as prescribed by the government. And You will be surprised to know that the students from these schools always find the place in toppers of every state.

 

Ah.. it's a good update. I thought all along  Saraswati Shishu Mandir is also a religion based schools like Madarsas. Anyhow I reiterate Madarsa  derecognition is well justified.

 

Here is the proof of what SSMs teach

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saraswati_Shishu_Mandir

 

 

suni51 wrote:

rambabu wrote:

suni51 wrote:

Gulshan Kumar Ajmani wrote:

There are religion based education institutes even of hindus including saraswati schools of RSS.  So no question of banning Madarasas. However all institutes and schools should teach English, Maths, Science in addition to religious teaching. 

 

Sir, Swarswati Shishu Mandirs are no religious schools but they teach the same syllabus as prescribed by the government. And You will be surprised to know that the students from these schools always find the place in toppers of every state.

 

Ah.. it's a good update. I thought all along  Saraswati Shishu Mandir is also a religion based schools like Madarsas. Anyhow I reiterate Madarsa  derecognition is well justified.

 

Here is the proof of what SSMs teach

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saraswati_Shishu_Mandir

 

Dear Sunil. Thanks for the link. You see it is the decision taken by Maharashtra government. It said religion based education and the respective institutions will not be recognized if they fail to comply with the curriculum prescribed by the education department of Maharashtra.

Now coming to the point, Saraswati Shishu Mandirs may be teaching other prescribed educational needs along with many other things. Here the question arises if SSMs have a branch in the state of Maharashtra. if so are the SSMs meeting the prescribed  syllabus framed by the Maharashtra government, is not clear in the link provided by you. Other things are alright.No controversy on SSMs

 

 

 

@Rambabu  I could gather this information and I hope this will answer your query

Admissions Procedure at Saraswati Shishu Mandir, Maharashtra 

Category: Primary with Upper Primary

School Board: Maharashtra State Board of Secondary and Higher Secondary Education (MSBSHSE)

Trust Name: Private Unaided

School Medium: English/local languages, Type: Co-ed

Many schools are currently running in rural areas for the betterment of Rural India. All those schools are funded by other schools. Vidya Bharati is working with an aim of providing quality education and creation of patriotic student in society.

Class rooms are in the name of various historic person such as Kabir, Rahim, Kalidas, Subhas Chandra Bose, Bhagat singh etc. They sing Shanti Path by which they pray for Peace and prosperity of every human being. They also worship Bharat Mata.

As on 2010, about 17,000 schools have been instituted across India. All state-level committees are affiliated to the Vidya Bharati Akhil Bharatiya Shiksha Sansthan educational system, headquartered in Delhi. Most of the schools follows NCERT books and CBSE syllabus.

Shishu Mandirs by Vidya Bharati run by one of the largest private network of schools in India having more than 17,500 schools, 2.5 million students, over 1,00000 teachers, 15 teacher training colleges, 12 degree colleges and 7 vocational and training institutions. Most of the Vidya Bharati schools follows NCERT books and are affiliated to the Central Board for Secondary Education or their local State Boards.