What is an ideal form of society and government?

Astonishing to know Meira Kumar goes to Foreign trips every 37 days.

usha manohar wrote:

Now I am definitely convinced that @ Vijay goes on the offensive the moment I put up facts about his favorite party and as usual  throws hints about rambabu at my face while he and almost all other active members keep blaming rambabu from time to time . That is his ploy to supposedly put me on the defensive when he has lost out an argument ..

Where is the question of losing an arguement when you have not joined in arguingvwith me. I repeat I raised the issue that BJP is constantly stressing the dalit background of Kovind which is not proper if we want to move towards a classless society. I have nothing against Kovind. You replied by diverting issue to Indira Gandhi and Pratibha Patil and so on. It was then that I stated your bias against Congress keeps coming out even when it is not necessary. I will once again repeat that Congress is not my favourite party. I have no issue with BJP being your favourite party. But for sake of balanced debate reply to the issue and not divert and then pass judgements . 

Caste, class and minority issues have been in existence since Independence,  no need to say who brought it in .It has become the habit of opposition and the media to harp on these issues time and again , more so when a candidate is selected even if the party ,here BJP does not make caste an issue in their selection process.. 

Very disappointing response. Cannot come out of bias. I rest my case.

There is no level playing field in society and government as well. Poor get poorer. Almost no one is concerned about those who are needy.

vijay wrote:

Very disappointing response. Cannot come out of bias. I rest my case.

Sorry professor , will try to do better next time..

You and RAMBABU will never change

Actually I was going to say the same thing that you and rambabu will never change. .

No worries. From now onwards, yours obediently Rambabu will maKe you see a great metamorphosis.

Metamorphosis - We need to undergo metamorphosis if we are willing to transform ourselves, for transformation is not possible without metamorphosis.

A change that comes from WITHIN with a strong intention  and fierce determination to bring a change in the concerned individual and the world around him is METAMORPHOSIS. 

@rambabu , looks like Metamrphosis is an impossible task for you, so please stick to the topic rather than make your irrelevant and senseless posts here.

It is interesting that @Usha the teacher does not like professers!!

The thread started with ideal form of govt. and society. Then the issue of selection of Presidential candidate crept in. Some have commented on .highlighting 'dalit' caste of the NDA Presidential candidate As Vijay remarked there is nothing to say about  personal merits/ demerits of the candidate. But it is unfortunate that his caste is being highlighted instead of merits..I remember that Mr. K.R. Narayanan was also a Dalit but nobody referred to his caste as such. It is the role of media that is most condemnable.. Just after selection of the NDA Presidential candidate, the media highlighted- 'Dalit Card by NDA'..  Again when Congress/ other opposition nominated  candidate, against caste factor was highlighted. Nobody ever talked about caste of Dr. Rajndra Prasad or Neelam Sanjeeva Reddy.  .  .  

We simply cannot compare nor expect things to be like they were before. By the eighties , our politicians had made sure that the caste and minority factors became entrenched deeply into our society thereby stratifying the entire nation. Media is afterall highlighting this state of affairs, so can't really blame them if they go overboard at times. 

Since the only way is to move forward, we can only  hope for positive change if some young leaders are able to instil new ideas and  have the courage to face the consequences. 

Instilling new ideas in matters of caste division and reservations seems to be far-fetched. No one wants to deplete their votebank. And no one will. Ignoring the caste factor is like political suicide nowadays.

Our " Secular" politicians want to extend the reservations to ridiculous limits..I remember Mulaym and Lalu wanting to give reservation to low caste muslim converts and Dalit muslim women and so on..

vijay wrote:

It is interesting that @Usha the teacher does not like professers!!

You are good at drawing your own conclusions..

rambabu wrote:

No worries. From now onwards, yours obediently Rambabu will maKe you see a great metamorphosis.

Lol...really ? Come Monday and you are back to your addiction..