OROP Announced by the Government after 42 years of deadlock !

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The One Rank One Pension scheme for armed forces was scrapped by Mrs Indira Gandhi in 1973. Since then the armed forces have been demanding for it to be restored.Now with some changes the OROP has become a reality which will help many war widows and armed personnel . There may be some minor hitches which would be gradually solved but the major hurdles have been crossed . 

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/India/Govt-to-announce-One-Rank-One-Pension-today/liveblog/48834531.cms

 

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I too feel that it is time for celebration because our armed forces are the backbone of our nation and they should be looked after well for the sacrifice they make. I am sure all political parties have the highest regard for hem and would like to see them happy and satisfied ! there is a lot more to be done to them with regard to weaponry and their gears and other needful things while on duty at border posts , which is not even comparable to Pakistani soldiers. And incidentally Pakistan has a larger defense budget than us at some 700 billion Rupees ..

The thread initiator had written that Indira Gandhi had scrapped the OROP in 1973. @Gulshan says it was because of third pay commission abolishing the then prevailing system of pension calculation that the need for OROP arose in 1973. I tend to agree with Gulshanji's views as it is the correct position. I feel the references provided by @Rambabu and @Usha are not correct for which they are in no way responsible. Web based information portals are many times not reliable as they are not authenticated. My reason for pointing it out is to set the record straight as otherwise wrong information goes through. There was no OROP in 1973 and thus it could not have been scrapped. 

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The thread initiator had written that Indira Gandhi had scrapped the OROP in 1973. @Gulshan says it was because of third pay commission abolishing the then prevailing system of pension calculation that the need for OROP arose in 1973. I tend to agree with Gulshanji's views as it is the correct position. I feel the references provided by @Rambabu and @Usha are not correct for which they are in no way responsible. Web based information portals are many times not reliable as they are not authenticated. My reason for pointing it out is to set the record straight as otherwise wrong information goes through. There was no OROP in 1973 and thus it could not have been scrapped. 

Is there any basis for your info that there was no OROP in 1973?

 

@ vijay I have already gone through that link, you please go through the one I have given above..

But you said web based information is not reliable. When I gave you a link to confirm,  that in 1973 OROP was scrapped by Indira Gandhi, you believed it and accepted it. Now you gave another link to convince the forum. Why this confusion? Anyhow I believe the info you gave.  That much of belief i have on the esteemed members.Thank you.

 

My contention is based on the fact that the demand was for introduction of OROP and not for its reintroduction. A fact brought out by @Gulshan and The India Today link. The latter gives a chronological history with milestones of the evolution of the OROP demand. I have tried to logically understand the need for OROP demand and was therefore surprised the Indira Gandhi had scrapped OROP in 1973, when in fact it did not exist as such. Yes web based portals are not all reliable but India Today is surely reliable. I am not interested in entering into discussion on web based portal reliability but on a wrong submission on an important issue like OROP. @ USHA says she has gone thru the India Today link but still choses not to revise her view! One should revise one's views when reliable facts become available. I am interested in facts and not scoring debating points. At least I was humble to revise my opinion when you presented a link and did not start dissecting it.

 

A very good gesture.  Not only you, Everybody is interested in facts. That's why I honor any expression of the member. It includes you.

 

But sticking to wrong facts is not proper even when right facts are presented. Patronising is good only to a very limited extent.

Here the members are knowledgeable.members are ready to change their opinions if facts are presented in an authentic way. If they do not change ignore them

 

I agree with you. It;s your opinion. And in this connection i gave web link to one of or members that Indira Gandhii has scrapped OROP during here regime.

 

Then accept what the member says. Creating a stalemate is undesirable. It amounts to dragging the thread for no reason.

 

It is true that the decision to do away with OROP came up during the 3rd pay commission and it was decided to be same as the civil pension scheme. That was the first pay commission without a military member. The fact that an Army personnel was equated with a civilian was indeed unfair since the working conditions can never be equated. The pay commission could not have been possible without the knowledge of the then PM. What exactly conspired or happened can not be vouched for after 42 years. Fd Marshal Manekshaw however is known to have shared a close rapport with Mrs Indira Gandhi and therefore one can not understand why exactly did a straight forward person of his stature who never hesitated in calling the spade,a spade take it. Maybe the soldier in him and bound to rules that comes with the uniform( as it was believed then that a soldier does his duties irrespective of the incentives) he maintained his dignity by not interfering. Anyways high time that the soldiers got their dues and I'm really happy that things have worked in their favour to some extent finally!!

Its wise to Leave behind all those things of the past and think of the present. Fortunately Central government did the right thing in deciding the right thing to those soldiers who stood like sentinels for the security of the country and people. All is well that ends well.

 

Of course some want to believe only what they want to, only those links that support their own wishful thinking but fats are different and one has to face them..I guess even the link below will be called unreliable  except for Gulshan's words and an incomplete article by Times of India !

One Rank One Pension’ more widely known by its acronym OROP, until 1973, was the basis for deciding pension of Indian Armed Forces Personnel [1] In 1973, in the wake ofThird Central Pay Commission (3CPC), when Indira Gandhi was Prime Minister, and Jagjivan Ram was Defense Minister, the Indian National Congress Government, “took ex-parte decision against the One Rank One Pension formula”. One Rank One Pension (OROP) since then has become a contentious issue

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koshyari_Committee_Report_On_Grant_Of_One_Rank_One_Pension

 

The facts given are true so far as my knowledge goes. Its common knowledge in the Army circle. It was accepted but never appreciated

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