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bhuyali saroj replied to the topic Is dreaming fruitful or waste of time!.
No i don't think that it is wasteful because if we don't dream then how can we know our ambition so to do more in life one should dream
10 years ago
Lopamudra replied to the topic OROP Announced by the Government after 42 years of deadlock !.
The pension which the Army people received at time was fixed and was 75 percent of the pay for all defence prsonnel which was brought down to 50 percent in 1973 CPC and the civilian people's was raised to 50 percent from 30 percent. The soldiers retired at 35 but their civilian counterparts at 60...hence the equation was at fault (apart from the difference in their duties) ..This was passed in the pay commission. Is this not true? I'm not blaming anyone for it because a lot many positives were achieved such as increasing the number of years service of the soldiers I think was raised and so on..moreover it was accepted by the top brass also although it has always remained a topic of discontent . The successive pay commissions made a huge difference in the pensions received by the officers and jawans retiring earlier and later. Therefore OROP was the solution to all including the pay difference with the civilians. We should not make it a political issue although the politicians are the ones running the show..they are the ones who decide and most of the time what they do is for their own vote bank and less out of goodwill. The defence should be considered separate and beyond petty politics.It is sad that a soldier has to go on hunger strike to get its dues. The ruling party may have passed it but it would not have been possible if the protests from the veterans and serving officers not been so strong.
10 years ago
Kalyani Nandurkar replied to the topic Is Destruction necessary to bring peace?.
rambabu wrote:
Kalyani Nandurkar wrote:
Your post itself contains the answer, it is necessary to kill the evil people because once they overpower the good, all reason is lost and there is no other way but to kill them. Innocent lives are lost for a number of reasons, chief ones being that they remain quiet when evil grows and allow the evil to grow stronger without quashing it in the initial stages. Other reasons are they collude with the evil. it is true that God created the world, but it is the humans who have created evil for their own greed and selfishness. Maybe it is the nature's and God's way of maintaining balance in the world.
It is said that when Einstein and Oppenheimer built the powerful bombs, they were very restless and apprehensive about its destructive nature. They sought answers from the Bhagwad Gita and then were able to complete their work that aided in bringing down Hitler and arresting the Japanese, Russians etc. before their oppression could grown stronger.
Absolutely. I agree with your point that God created the world and man invented killings and barbaric ways to cater to his selfish needs. Hence, to punish those evil doers destruction becomes inevitable.
True...as we all know according to our Hindu philosophy the Trimurti concept that consists of Brahma - The creator, Vishnu - the Nurturer and Shiva - the Destroyer. Here the concept of Shiva as destroyer is not simply destruction, but also as the beginner of new life. Unless the old and unnecessary is destroyed, there won't be place for new. Even in nature we have studied about different ages and eons, once dinosaurs ruled the earth. They were destroyed and then other type of life took birth, so on and so forth. So we have to accept that the life is nothing but a cycle of life and death or rather, a new beginning.
10 years ago
bhuyali saroj replied to the topic Is Destruction necessary to bring peace?.
yes sometime it happens in everyone life each and everyone face in his/her life to get some happiness he/she have to do some destruction. It mostly happen because of some uneducated person
10 years ago
Kalyani Nandurkar said thank you to rambabu for his/her reply to the topic Is Destruction necessary to bring peace?.
Kalyani Nandurkar wrote:
Your post itself contains the answer, it is necessary to kill the evil people because once they overpower the good, all reason is lost and there is no other way but to kill them. Innocent lives are lost for a number of reasons, chief ones being that they remain quiet when evil grows and allow the evil to grow stronger without quashing it in the initial stages. Other reasons are they collude with the evil. it is true that God created the world, but it is the humans who have created evil for their own greed and selfishness. Maybe it is the nature's and God's way of maintaining balance in the world.
It is said that when Einstein and Oppenheimer built the powerful bombs, they were very restless and apprehensive about its destructive nature. They sought answers from the Bhagwad Gita and then were able to complete their work that aided in bringing down Hitler and arresting the Japanese, Russians etc. before their oppression could grown stronger.
Absolutely. I agree with your point that God created the world and man invented killings and barbaric ways to cater to his selfish needs. Hence, to punish those evil doers destruction becomes inevitable.
10 years ago
rambabu said thank you to Kalyani Nandurkar for his/her reply to the topic Is Destruction necessary to bring peace?.
Your post itself contains the answer, it is necessary to kill the evil people because once they overpower the good, all reason is lost and there is no other way but to kill them. Innocent lives are lost for a number of reasons, chief ones being that they remain quiet when evil grows and allow the evil to grow stronger without quashing it in the initial stages. Other reasons are they collude with the evil. it is true that God created the world, but it is the humans who have created evil for their own greed and selfishness. Maybe it is the nature's and God's way of maintaining balance in the world.
It is said that when Einstein and Oppenheimer built the powerful bombs, they were very restless and apprehensive about its destructive nature. They sought answers from the Bhagwad Gita and then were able to complete their work that aided in bringing down Hitler and arresting the Japanese, Russians etc. before their oppression could grown stronger.
10 years ago
rambabu replied to the topic Is Destruction necessary to bring peace?.
Kalyani Nandurkar wrote:
Your post itself contains the answer, it is necessary to kill the evil people because once they overpower the good, all reason is lost and there is no other way but to kill them. Innocent lives are lost for a number of reasons, chief ones being that they remain quiet when evil grows and allow the evil to grow stronger without quashing it in the initial stages. Other reasons are they collude with the evil. it is true that God created the world, but it is the humans who have created evil for their own greed and selfishness. Maybe it is the nature's and God's way of maintaining balance in the world.
It is said that when Einstein and Oppenheimer built the powerful bombs, they were very restless and apprehensive about its destructive nature. They sought answers from the Bhagwad Gita and then were able to complete their work that aided in bringing down Hitler and arresting the Japanese, Russians etc. before their oppression could grown stronger.
Absolutely. I agree with your point that God created the world and man invented killings and barbaric ways to cater to his selfish needs. Hence, to punish those evil doers destruction becomes inevitable.
10 years ago
RAMAKRISHNAN. A replied to the topic Simple Phrases to boost your Happiness.
Good. These are strengths and positive phrases that will rejuvenate us if we follow them at the right time.
10 years ago
Kalyani Nandurkar replied to the topic Is dreaming fruitful or waste of time!.
Dreaming is an ability that has been granted to only humans and what marks our difference from other life forms. Dreams are necessary because it is through dreams that we achieve greatness, ambition, innovation. But of course, a person who spends his time only dreaming about things but never takes any steps to bring them to reality, are futile dreams. Such dreams are waste and not ones that are used to achieve things.
10 years ago
Kalyani Nandurkar replied to the topic Is Destruction necessary to bring peace?.
Your post itself contains the answer, it is necessary to kill the evil people because once they overpower the good, all reason is lost and there is no other way but to kill them. Innocent lives are lost for a number of reasons, chief ones being that they remain quiet when evil grows and allow the evil to grow stronger without quashing it in the initial stages. Other reasons are they collude with the evil. it is true that God created the world, but it is the humans who have created evil for their own greed and selfishness. Maybe it is the nature's and God's way of maintaining balance in the world.
It is said that when Einstein and Oppenheimer built the powerful bombs, they were very restless and apprehensive about its destructive nature. They sought answers from the Bhagwad Gita and then were able to complete their work that aided in bringing down Hitler and arresting the Japanese, Russians etc. before their oppression could grown stronger.
10 years ago
rambabu liked the topic Is Destruction necessary to bring peace?.
Krishna tells arjun to destroy the evil and wrong people with a brave heart. This also bring destruction to thousands of innocent people. To demolish few bad things, was that right to destroy the whole mankind. If God can do any thing, could not he find a better and peaceful way to demolish bad people and bad things.
10 years ago
rambabu replied to the topic Is Destruction necessary to bring peace?.
This reminds me of a Bill board written in the campus of Eastern Naval command Head quarters in my place Vizag.
The Bill board says,
"If you want Peace be ready for a war."
I'm of the opinion destruction is inevitable to establish Peace. Soft methods to bring Peace in these Cutthroat world will be an exercise in futility. Can we use soft methods to deal with war mongering Pakistan to establish Peace ?
10 years ago
Neha Sadana created new topic Is dreaming fruitful or waste of time!.
Do you think dreaming is a part of planning?
10 years ago
rambabu replied to the topic Simple Phrases to boost your Happiness.
Yes. the enlisted good phrases are helpful. All of them pave the way for a happy and blissful life, if followed religiously. Yhe "Creativity" point is my favorite.
10 years ago
Neha Sadana created new topic Is Destruction is necessary to bring peace?.
Krishna tells arjun to destroy the evil and wrong people with a brave heart. This also bring destruction to thousands of innocent people. To demolish few bad things, was that right to destroy the whole mankind. If God can do any thing, could not he find a better and peaceful way to demolish bad people and bad things.
10 years ago
rambabu replied to the topic Doing actions without expectations! Is this possible?.
I agree. In this scenario of selfishness and hypocrisy, Doing selfless work looks like an uphill task. It's difficult. But not impossible.
10 years ago
RAMAKRISHNAN. A replied to the topic Doing actions without expectations! Is this possible?.
Kalyani Nandurkar wrote:
RAMAKRISHNAN. A wrote:
The Sanskrit shloka is Karmanyevadhikaraste, Ma phaleshou kadachana, which literally means “You have the right to do your duty but are not entitled to the fruits thereof”. In the context of Gita, Krishna tells Arjuna that his duty is to fight irrespective of whether he wins or loses. It simply means “Do your duty without being attached to its result”. But outside Gita, it has several interpretations. The best interpretation is “Help others selflessly without expecting anything in return”. And the worst one is “Work, but do not ask for payment”. The former is possible, but the latter is impossible.
Ramakrishnanji, you have given a lovely and simple explanation. In the modern context we can applied it thus, according to my interpretation, work sincerely and dedicatedly, give our fullest efforts and expect suitable compensation in return for our honest efforts. This is with reference to our work we need to do for earning livelihood. Whereas , when we deal with others besides our work, be it friends, relatives, other components of the society, we need to do what is right and do not expect any gains from those interactions, just do what is right .
Exactly. To earn our livelihood, we need compensation for our work, without which we cannot survive. Beyond that, in the personal and society level, we can do selfless service without expecting any gains. And there are great souls who do such works just for work’s sake. They do not even think about the resulting peace of mind.
10 years ago
bhuyali saroj replied to the topic Is dreaming fruitful or waste of time!.
No i don't think that it is wasteful because if we don't dream then how can we know our ambition so to do more in life one should dream
10 years ago
Lopamudra replied to the topic OROP Announced by the Government after 42 years of deadlock !.
The pension which the Army people received at time was fixed and was 75 percent of the pay for all defence prsonnel which was brought down to 50 percent in 1973 CPC and the civilian people's was raised to 50 percent from 30 percent. The soldiers retired at 35 but their civilian counterparts at 60...hence the equation was at fault (apart from the difference in their duties) ..This was passed in the pay commission. Is this not true? I'm not blaming anyone for it because a lot many positives were achieved such as increasing the number of years service of the soldiers I think was raised and so on..moreover it was accepted by the top brass also although it has always remained a topic of discontent . The successive pay commissions made a huge difference in the pensions received by the officers and jawans retiring earlier and later. Therefore OROP was the solution to all including the pay difference with the civilians. We should not make it a political issue although the politicians are the ones running the show..they are the ones who decide and most of the time what they do is for their own vote bank and less out of goodwill. The defence should be considered separate and beyond petty politics.It is sad that a soldier has to go on hunger strike to get its dues. The ruling party may have passed it but it would not have been possible if the protests from the veterans and serving officers not been so strong.
10 years ago
Kalyani Nandurkar replied to the topic Is Destruction necessary to bring peace?.
rambabu wrote:
Kalyani Nandurkar wrote:
Your post itself contains the answer, it is necessary to kill the evil people because once they overpower the good, all reason is lost and there is no other way but to kill them. Innocent lives are lost for a number of reasons, chief ones being that they remain quiet when evil grows and allow the evil to grow stronger without quashing it in the initial stages. Other reasons are they collude with the evil. it is true that God created the world, but it is the humans who have created evil for their own greed and selfishness. Maybe it is the nature's and God's way of maintaining balance in the world.
It is said that when Einstein and Oppenheimer built the powerful bombs, they were very restless and apprehensive about its destructive nature. They sought answers from the Bhagwad Gita and then were able to complete their work that aided in bringing down Hitler and arresting the Japanese, Russians etc. before their oppression could grown stronger.
Absolutely. I agree with your point that God created the world and man invented killings and barbaric ways to cater to his selfish needs. Hence, to punish those evil doers destruction becomes inevitable.
True...as we all know according to our Hindu philosophy the Trimurti concept that consists of Brahma - The creator, Vishnu - the Nurturer and Shiva - the Destroyer. Here the concept of Shiva as destroyer is not simply destruction, but also as the beginner of new life. Unless the old and unnecessary is destroyed, there won't be place for new. Even in nature we have studied about different ages and eons, once dinosaurs ruled the earth. They were destroyed and then other type of life took birth, so on and so forth. So we have to accept that the life is nothing but a cycle of life and death or rather, a new beginning.
10 years ago
bhuyali saroj replied to the topic Is Destruction necessary to bring peace?.
yes sometime it happens in everyone life each and everyone face in his/her life to get some happiness he/she have to do some destruction. It mostly happen because of some uneducated person
10 years ago
Kalyani Nandurkar said thank you to rambabu for his/her reply to the topic Is Destruction necessary to bring peace?.
Kalyani Nandurkar wrote:
Your post itself contains the answer, it is necessary to kill the evil people because once they overpower the good, all reason is lost and there is no other way but to kill them. Innocent lives are lost for a number of reasons, chief ones being that they remain quiet when evil grows and allow the evil to grow stronger without quashing it in the initial stages. Other reasons are they collude with the evil. it is true that God created the world, but it is the humans who have created evil for their own greed and selfishness. Maybe it is the nature's and God's way of maintaining balance in the world.
It is said that when Einstein and Oppenheimer built the powerful bombs, they were very restless and apprehensive about its destructive nature. They sought answers from the Bhagwad Gita and then were able to complete their work that aided in bringing down Hitler and arresting the Japanese, Russians etc. before their oppression could grown stronger.
Absolutely. I agree with your point that God created the world and man invented killings and barbaric ways to cater to his selfish needs. Hence, to punish those evil doers destruction becomes inevitable.
10 years ago
rambabu said thank you to Kalyani Nandurkar for his/her reply to the topic Is Destruction necessary to bring peace?.
Your post itself contains the answer, it is necessary to kill the evil people because once they overpower the good, all reason is lost and there is no other way but to kill them. Innocent lives are lost for a number of reasons, chief ones being that they remain quiet when evil grows and allow the evil to grow stronger without quashing it in the initial stages. Other reasons are they collude with the evil. it is true that God created the world, but it is the humans who have created evil for their own greed and selfishness. Maybe it is the nature's and God's way of maintaining balance in the world.
It is said that when Einstein and Oppenheimer built the powerful bombs, they were very restless and apprehensive about its destructive nature. They sought answers from the Bhagwad Gita and then were able to complete their work that aided in bringing down Hitler and arresting the Japanese, Russians etc. before their oppression could grown stronger.
10 years ago
rambabu replied to the topic Is Destruction necessary to bring peace?.
Kalyani Nandurkar wrote:
Your post itself contains the answer, it is necessary to kill the evil people because once they overpower the good, all reason is lost and there is no other way but to kill them. Innocent lives are lost for a number of reasons, chief ones being that they remain quiet when evil grows and allow the evil to grow stronger without quashing it in the initial stages. Other reasons are they collude with the evil. it is true that God created the world, but it is the humans who have created evil for their own greed and selfishness. Maybe it is the nature's and God's way of maintaining balance in the world.
It is said that when Einstein and Oppenheimer built the powerful bombs, they were very restless and apprehensive about its destructive nature. They sought answers from the Bhagwad Gita and then were able to complete their work that aided in bringing down Hitler and arresting the Japanese, Russians etc. before their oppression could grown stronger.
Absolutely. I agree with your point that God created the world and man invented killings and barbaric ways to cater to his selfish needs. Hence, to punish those evil doers destruction becomes inevitable.
10 years ago
RAMAKRISHNAN. A replied to the topic Simple Phrases to boost your Happiness.
Good. These are strengths and positive phrases that will rejuvenate us if we follow them at the right time.
10 years ago
Kalyani Nandurkar replied to the topic Is dreaming fruitful or waste of time!.
Dreaming is an ability that has been granted to only humans and what marks our difference from other life forms. Dreams are necessary because it is through dreams that we achieve greatness, ambition, innovation. But of course, a person who spends his time only dreaming about things but never takes any steps to bring them to reality, are futile dreams. Such dreams are waste and not ones that are used to achieve things.
10 years ago
Kalyani Nandurkar replied to the topic Is Destruction necessary to bring peace?.
Your post itself contains the answer, it is necessary to kill the evil people because once they overpower the good, all reason is lost and there is no other way but to kill them. Innocent lives are lost for a number of reasons, chief ones being that they remain quiet when evil grows and allow the evil to grow stronger without quashing it in the initial stages. Other reasons are they collude with the evil. it is true that God created the world, but it is the humans who have created evil for their own greed and selfishness. Maybe it is the nature's and God's way of maintaining balance in the world.
It is said that when Einstein and Oppenheimer built the powerful bombs, they were very restless and apprehensive about its destructive nature. They sought answers from the Bhagwad Gita and then were able to complete their work that aided in bringing down Hitler and arresting the Japanese, Russians etc. before their oppression could grown stronger.
10 years ago
rambabu liked the topic Is Destruction necessary to bring peace?.
Krishna tells arjun to destroy the evil and wrong people with a brave heart. This also bring destruction to thousands of innocent people. To demolish few bad things, was that right to destroy the whole mankind. If God can do any thing, could not he find a better and peaceful way to demolish bad people and bad things.
10 years ago
rambabu replied to the topic Is Destruction necessary to bring peace?.
This reminds me of a Bill board written in the campus of Eastern Naval command Head quarters in my place Vizag.
The Bill board says,
"If you want Peace be ready for a war."
I'm of the opinion destruction is inevitable to establish Peace. Soft methods to bring Peace in these Cutthroat world will be an exercise in futility. Can we use soft methods to deal with war mongering Pakistan to establish Peace ?
10 years ago
Neha Sadana created new topic Is dreaming fruitful or waste of time!.
Do you think dreaming is a part of planning?
10 years ago
rambabu replied to the topic Simple Phrases to boost your Happiness.
Yes. the enlisted good phrases are helpful. All of them pave the way for a happy and blissful life, if followed religiously. Yhe "Creativity" point is my favorite.
10 years ago
Neha Sadana created new topic Is Destruction is necessary to bring peace?.
Krishna tells arjun to destroy the evil and wrong people with a brave heart. This also bring destruction to thousands of innocent people. To demolish few bad things, was that right to destroy the whole mankind. If God can do any thing, could not he find a better and peaceful way to demolish bad people and bad things.
10 years ago
rambabu replied to the topic Doing actions without expectations! Is this possible?.
I agree. In this scenario of selfishness and hypocrisy, Doing selfless work looks like an uphill task. It's difficult. But not impossible.
10 years ago
RAMAKRISHNAN. A replied to the topic Doing actions without expectations! Is this possible?.
Kalyani Nandurkar wrote:
RAMAKRISHNAN. A wrote:
The Sanskrit shloka is Karmanyevadhikaraste, Ma phaleshou kadachana, which literally means “You have the right to do your duty but are not entitled to the fruits thereof”. In the context of Gita, Krishna tells Arjuna that his duty is to fight irrespective of whether he wins or loses. It simply means “Do your duty without being attached to its result”. But outside Gita, it has several interpretations. The best interpretation is “Help others selflessly without expecting anything in return”. And the worst one is “Work, but do not ask for payment”. The former is possible, but the latter is impossible.
Ramakrishnanji, you have given a lovely and simple explanation. In the modern context we can applied it thus, according to my interpretation, work sincerely and dedicatedly, give our fullest efforts and expect suitable compensation in return for our honest efforts. This is with reference to our work we need to do for earning livelihood. Whereas , when we deal with others besides our work, be it friends, relatives, other components of the society, we need to do what is right and do not expect any gains from those interactions, just do what is right .
Exactly. To earn our livelihood, we need compensation for our work, without which we cannot survive. Beyond that, in the personal and society level, we can do selfless service without expecting any gains. And there are great souls who do such works just for work’s sake. They do not even think about the resulting peace of mind.
10 years ago