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Renu Sharma replied to the topic Is Destruction necessary to bring peace?.
A thorn can remove a thorn but what about the several other thorns coming in the way?
Also if a thorn removes the other, only one is left. A Single palm cannot clap similarly, with single thorn there is no point of peace and war. Its over basically , one thorn ends and other rules.
10 years ago
rambabu replied to the topic Wasteful choices to avoid..
Shampa Sadhya wrote:
You have very rightly pointed out that we must concentrate on what to do and not on what not to do. Another point on which I would like to focus is that the list should not be long because then, following the whole list becomes quite stressful. A few do's will help to maintain concentration which will produce a better result.
You need not follow the whole list. Start with an easiest task, which you are sure of accomplishing. Success in the very first instance boosts your morale This initial success will rejuvenate you. With this new found confidence, move on to the next tip. At the end of the day, you yourself will be astonished to see your progress.
10 years ago
vijay replied to the topic What Are You: A Bhogi or a Yogi?.
Even a yogi is a bhoghi because he also enjoys but in a different way.
10 years ago
vijay said thank you to Gulshan Kumar Ajmani for his/her reply to the topic OROP Announced by the Government after 42 years of deadlock !.
rambabu wrote:
vijay wrote:
The thread initiator had written that Indira Gandhi had scrapped the OROP in 1973. @Gulshan says it was because of third pay commission abolishing the then prevailing system of pension calculation that the need for OROP arose in 1973. I tend to agree with Gulshanji's views as it is the correct position. I feel the references provided by @Rambabu and @Usha are not correct for which they are in no way responsible. Web based information portals are many times not reliable as they are not authenticated. My reason for pointing it out is to set the record straight as otherwise wrong information goes through. There was no OROP in 1973 and thus it could not have been scrapped.
Is there any basis for your info that there was no OROP in 1973?
I an a retired Defence employee. I was involved in pay fixation of 1973 pay commission report. Up to 1973, the army soldiers did not have any graded pay scales. Their pay was fixed according to chart showing pay on basis of lenghth of service and rank. This ensured that even if some body is promoted late, he would get the same pay as another promoted earlier but having same length of service. Similarly pension was fixed. The third c pay commission introduced pay scales. The pension is based on average emoluments in the last ten months. The pay commissions revise pay and pension in such a way that new comers gain more. So the old ones are relative losers. It is hence the system at fault and no individual including Indira Gandhi. It is not possible to give link as traditionally, all information about defence even pay scales are considered secret and the literature/ books are not available in market unlike civil books.
10 years ago
vijay replied to the topic OROP Announced by the Government after 42 years of deadlock !.
It is wrong to be right when back slapping members of the forum are wrong is all I can say. @ Gulshan has answered on my behalf.
10 years ago
rambabu replied to the topic Simple Phrases to boost your Happiness.
Life is full of choices. One can choose a way that suits him and lead to happy life. The best way is Self motivation. Having a role model will go a long way.
10 years ago
Renu Sharma replied to the topic Is Destruction necessary to bring peace?.
Apart from this I would like to add on that in the mythology of India both the epics ramayan and Mahabharat had wars but it is notable that first the heroes both Shri Ram ( and army) and Shri krishan alobg with Arjun and Family demanded peaceful diplomatic agreement firstly and war was secondary. In the case if the other party wants destruction, it is their lack of knowledge or rather-
" Vinashkaale vipreet budhi".
However, war leads to destruction only. In the case of mahabharat only a handful of people were alive after the 13 day war who were of a same team, so peace was derermined. In the Ramayan also, Ravan and his supporters died and Shri Ram had been always peaceful, if he was not have been so, he would have never accepted the exile.
Basically war became a need of situation not a source of peace. It was about ending evils and peace was never a criteria of requirements.
10 years ago
Shampa Sadhya replied to the topic Wasteful choices to avoid..
You have very rightly pointed out that we must concentrate on what to do and not on what not to do. Another point on which I would like to focus is that the list should not be long because then, following the whole list becomes quite stressful. A few do's will help to maintain concentration which will produce a better result.
10 years ago
rambabu replied to the topic Is Destruction necessary to bring peace?.
It all depends on the other side of the party. If the other party provokes with an intention of destabilizing the country, do you think we should the song of Peace. A thorn should be used to remove a thorn.
10 years ago
Renu Sharma replied to the topic Is Destruction necessary to bring peace?.
War can never lead to peace. Destruction means demolishing so if the party is demolished how cqn we expect any peace. If people think that war can lead to soft bilateral relations then, I feel that if we destruct and deteriotes one's power, the other people who are in favour of that particular party would rise and would lead to both-sided destruction instead of peace. Killing or destructing is just hazardous and self-annihiliating. If peace is required, diplomatic relations should promote mutual benefit. Results of better mutual benefits have always been fruitful and will remain so forever. At one side, we discourage terrorisms and civil wars because they are destructive and demolishes peace then, howcome we are promoting destruction and wars for peace.
10 years ago
rambabu replied to the topic Is dreaming fruitful or waste of time!.
Well said. Late Dr. Kalam hailed from a poor family. He worked as a News paper distribution boy and rose to the dizzying heights of fame. This very example shows how one can realize his dreams.
10 years ago
Renu Sharma replied to the topic Simple Phrases to boost your Happiness.
Yes these phrases are worthy of attention and are a source of optimism along with happiness and promotes the person to enjoy every blissful moment of life. However, one should also try to make a bad moment or the down-levelled moment into a positive and good one. Life is just for once so one should enjoy and make use of it the most.
10 years ago
Renu Sharma replied to the topic Is dreaming fruitful or waste of time!.
Mere dreaming yields nothing however, to make them a reality one has to grab every opportunity from the real world. Therefore, it is well said by the former President of India Dr. Kalam-
"Dream is not that which you see while sleeping it is something that does not let you sleep."
10 years ago
Renu Sharma replied to the topic Is dreaming fruitful or waste of time!.
Mere dreaming yields nothing however, to make them a reality one has to grab every opportunity from the real world. Therefore, it is well said by the former President of India Dr. Kalam-
"Dream is not that which you see while sleeping it is something that does not let you sleep."
10 years ago
Renu Sharma replied to the topic Is dreaming fruitful or waste of time!.
Mere dreaming yields nothing however, to make them a reality one has to grab every opportunity from the real world. Therefore, it is well said by the former President of India Dr. Kalam-
"Dream is not that which you see while sleeping it is something that does not let you sleep."
10 years ago
Shampa Sadhya replied to the topic Simple Phrases to boost your Happiness.
These phrases are genuinely good and if followed life will certainly enjoy a great amount of bliss. These phrases project towards simple living and naturally it leads to happiness.
10 years ago
rambabu replied to the topic One Rahul, One Priyanka..
Who on earth among these politicians think of their services and responsibilities as the elected members of people's representatives ? To think and expect this kind of Noble deeds from these politicians is our mere greediness.
10 years ago
Renu Sharma replied to the topic Is Destruction necessary to bring peace?.
A thorn can remove a thorn but what about the several other thorns coming in the way?
Also if a thorn removes the other, only one is left. A Single palm cannot clap similarly, with single thorn there is no point of peace and war. Its over basically , one thorn ends and other rules.
10 years ago
rambabu replied to the topic Wasteful choices to avoid..
Shampa Sadhya wrote:
You have very rightly pointed out that we must concentrate on what to do and not on what not to do. Another point on which I would like to focus is that the list should not be long because then, following the whole list becomes quite stressful. A few do's will help to maintain concentration which will produce a better result.
You need not follow the whole list. Start with an easiest task, which you are sure of accomplishing. Success in the very first instance boosts your morale This initial success will rejuvenate you. With this new found confidence, move on to the next tip. At the end of the day, you yourself will be astonished to see your progress.
10 years ago
vijay replied to the topic What Are You: A Bhogi or a Yogi?.
Even a yogi is a bhoghi because he also enjoys but in a different way.
10 years ago
vijay said thank you to Gulshan Kumar Ajmani for his/her reply to the topic OROP Announced by the Government after 42 years of deadlock !.
rambabu wrote:
vijay wrote:
The thread initiator had written that Indira Gandhi had scrapped the OROP in 1973. @Gulshan says it was because of third pay commission abolishing the then prevailing system of pension calculation that the need for OROP arose in 1973. I tend to agree with Gulshanji's views as it is the correct position. I feel the references provided by @Rambabu and @Usha are not correct for which they are in no way responsible. Web based information portals are many times not reliable as they are not authenticated. My reason for pointing it out is to set the record straight as otherwise wrong information goes through. There was no OROP in 1973 and thus it could not have been scrapped.
Is there any basis for your info that there was no OROP in 1973?
I an a retired Defence employee. I was involved in pay fixation of 1973 pay commission report. Up to 1973, the army soldiers did not have any graded pay scales. Their pay was fixed according to chart showing pay on basis of lenghth of service and rank. This ensured that even if some body is promoted late, he would get the same pay as another promoted earlier but having same length of service. Similarly pension was fixed. The third c pay commission introduced pay scales. The pension is based on average emoluments in the last ten months. The pay commissions revise pay and pension in such a way that new comers gain more. So the old ones are relative losers. It is hence the system at fault and no individual including Indira Gandhi. It is not possible to give link as traditionally, all information about defence even pay scales are considered secret and the literature/ books are not available in market unlike civil books.
10 years ago
vijay replied to the topic OROP Announced by the Government after 42 years of deadlock !.
It is wrong to be right when back slapping members of the forum are wrong is all I can say. @ Gulshan has answered on my behalf.
10 years ago
rambabu replied to the topic Simple Phrases to boost your Happiness.
Life is full of choices. One can choose a way that suits him and lead to happy life. The best way is Self motivation. Having a role model will go a long way.
10 years ago
Renu Sharma replied to the topic Is Destruction necessary to bring peace?.
Apart from this I would like to add on that in the mythology of India both the epics ramayan and Mahabharat had wars but it is notable that first the heroes both Shri Ram ( and army) and Shri krishan alobg with Arjun and Family demanded peaceful diplomatic agreement firstly and war was secondary. In the case if the other party wants destruction, it is their lack of knowledge or rather-
" Vinashkaale vipreet budhi".
However, war leads to destruction only. In the case of mahabharat only a handful of people were alive after the 13 day war who were of a same team, so peace was derermined. In the Ramayan also, Ravan and his supporters died and Shri Ram had been always peaceful, if he was not have been so, he would have never accepted the exile.
Basically war became a need of situation not a source of peace. It was about ending evils and peace was never a criteria of requirements.
10 years ago
Shampa Sadhya replied to the topic Wasteful choices to avoid..
You have very rightly pointed out that we must concentrate on what to do and not on what not to do. Another point on which I would like to focus is that the list should not be long because then, following the whole list becomes quite stressful. A few do's will help to maintain concentration which will produce a better result.
10 years ago
rambabu replied to the topic Is Destruction necessary to bring peace?.
It all depends on the other side of the party. If the other party provokes with an intention of destabilizing the country, do you think we should the song of Peace. A thorn should be used to remove a thorn.
10 years ago
Renu Sharma replied to the topic Is Destruction necessary to bring peace?.
War can never lead to peace. Destruction means demolishing so if the party is demolished how cqn we expect any peace. If people think that war can lead to soft bilateral relations then, I feel that if we destruct and deteriotes one's power, the other people who are in favour of that particular party would rise and would lead to both-sided destruction instead of peace. Killing or destructing is just hazardous and self-annihiliating. If peace is required, diplomatic relations should promote mutual benefit. Results of better mutual benefits have always been fruitful and will remain so forever. At one side, we discourage terrorisms and civil wars because they are destructive and demolishes peace then, howcome we are promoting destruction and wars for peace.
10 years ago
rambabu replied to the topic Is dreaming fruitful or waste of time!.
Well said. Late Dr. Kalam hailed from a poor family. He worked as a News paper distribution boy and rose to the dizzying heights of fame. This very example shows how one can realize his dreams.
10 years ago
Renu Sharma replied to the topic Simple Phrases to boost your Happiness.
Yes these phrases are worthy of attention and are a source of optimism along with happiness and promotes the person to enjoy every blissful moment of life. However, one should also try to make a bad moment or the down-levelled moment into a positive and good one. Life is just for once so one should enjoy and make use of it the most.
10 years ago
Renu Sharma replied to the topic Is dreaming fruitful or waste of time!.
Mere dreaming yields nothing however, to make them a reality one has to grab every opportunity from the real world. Therefore, it is well said by the former President of India Dr. Kalam-
"Dream is not that which you see while sleeping it is something that does not let you sleep."
10 years ago
Renu Sharma replied to the topic Is dreaming fruitful or waste of time!.
Mere dreaming yields nothing however, to make them a reality one has to grab every opportunity from the real world. Therefore, it is well said by the former President of India Dr. Kalam-
"Dream is not that which you see while sleeping it is something that does not let you sleep."
10 years ago
Renu Sharma replied to the topic Is dreaming fruitful or waste of time!.
Mere dreaming yields nothing however, to make them a reality one has to grab every opportunity from the real world. Therefore, it is well said by the former President of India Dr. Kalam-
"Dream is not that which you see while sleeping it is something that does not let you sleep."
10 years ago
Shampa Sadhya replied to the topic Simple Phrases to boost your Happiness.
These phrases are genuinely good and if followed life will certainly enjoy a great amount of bliss. These phrases project towards simple living and naturally it leads to happiness.
10 years ago
rambabu replied to the topic One Rahul, One Priyanka..
Who on earth among these politicians think of their services and responsibilities as the elected members of people's representatives ? To think and expect this kind of Noble deeds from these politicians is our mere greediness.
10 years ago