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usha manohar replied to the topic How about Instant Publishing of Articles?.
suni51 wrote:
Kalyani Nandurkar wrote:
Personally, I do not favour instant publishing much at this point of time. With the exception of a very members, most members are comparatively new to article writing and the articles submitted are not so mature and upto the mark that they can be published instantly. Even if the facility was extended to senior writers here, I can 100% assure that even their articles need proof reading and refining where grammar, punctuation and formatting is concerned. Until now, I have not come across even a SINGLE article which was 100% error free. In such a scenario, publishing an article instantly and then finding errors in it is not desirable, neither does it cast favorable light on the website's reputation. Instead, admin approval process must be expedited and a time frame of less than 48 hours implemented from submitting to actual publication of article.
The article will go online only after an editor has cleared it. The editor has the option to return it to author unless he/she is satisfied entirely.
So how is this different from what is happening now ? and how can it be called instant publishing if it has to becleared by an editor and again wait for the admin to give cash credits...either way, I feel that if the whole process as it stands now, gets speedeed up it would be good enough. As things stand it is far too slow for articles to get published and there are not that many articles either !
10 years ago
suni51 replied to the topic Shouldn't legal professionals have some moral responsibility towards society?.
What I feel is that legal professionals have no obligation for society but go by the book of rule books. It's up to judges to see that the victims get best legal support, criminals the punishment and society gets a message.
10 years ago
suni51 replied to the topic How about Instant Publishing of Articles?.
@ chinmoymukherjee actually this is not as instant as it sounds. almost all articles are cleared by the admin once cleared by editors.
10 years ago
Shampa Sadhya created new topic Shouldn't legal profession have some moral responsibility towards society?.
In many legal cases such as murder, honour killing, rape and so on in which powerful people are involved then we get to see very reputed legal professionals fighting the case in favour of such beings. I know it's their profession and it is also known that in legal case truth is changed into false and vice versa but somehow I feel a bit discomfort. No one is above the law and no profession is above morality so in such a situation I am of the opinion that the legal professionals must stand up for the victim. It will help in eradicating the social evil from the society. Earning money should not be the only aim but must serve a right purpose.
10 years ago
chinmoymukherjee replied to the topic OROP Announced by the Government after 42 years of deadlock !.
I think the decision taken by this government
is as illogical as the demand made by some
retired army officers.How can one demand
pension of an amount which he did not earn!
With all my love and respect to them,I can't
justify their demands.They are well paid
with liberal perks and subsidies even after
retirement. I apprehend this might have opened
Pandora's box with similar demands coming
up from other sections of government sectors.
10 years ago
chinmoymukherjee replied to the topic How about Instant Publishing of Articles?.
Like all other 'instant' stuff,its appeal
too would Webb and disappear.Only quality
will be the casualty.It would lead to a situation
where both the writers and editors will be
rushed into doing what may not be very
edifying for the site.
10 years ago
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani replied to the topic OROP Announced by the Government after 42 years of deadlock !.
usha manohar wrote:
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani wrote:
rambabu wrote:
vijay wrote:
The thread initiator had written that Indira Gandhi had scrapped the OROP in 1973. @Gulshan says it was because of third pay commission abolishing the then prevailing system of pension calculation that the need for OROP arose in 1973. I tend to agree with Gulshanji's views as it is the correct position. I feel the references provided by @Rambabu and @Usha are not correct for which they are in no way responsible. Web based information portals are many times not reliable as they are not authenticated. My reason for pointing it out is to set the record straight as otherwise wrong information goes through. There was no OROP in 1973 and thus it could not have been scrapped.
Is there any basis for your info that there was no OROP in 1973?
I an a retired Defence employee. I was involved in pay fixation of 1973 pay commission report. Up to 1973, the army soldiers did not have any graded pay scales. Their pay was fixed according to chart showing pay on basis of lenghth of service and rank. This ensured that even if some body is promoted late, he would get the same pay as another promoted earlier but having same length of service. Similarly pension was fixed. The third c pay commission introduced pay scales. The pension is based on average emoluments in the last ten months. The pay commissions revise pay and pension in such a way that new comers gain more. So the old ones are relative losers. It is hence the system at fault and no individual including Indira Gandhi. It is not possible to give link as traditionally, all information about defence even pay scales are considered secret and the literature/ books are not available in market unlike civil books.
So in your opinion, this link and the Koshyari committee report has no relevance ??? And as the head of the nation, how is it that Indira Gandhi becomes blameless, that is news to me ! Is this something happens in a Congress led government because I see the same people blaming Modi all saffron deeds !!!
‘One Rank One Pension’ more widely known by its acronym OROP, until 1973, was the basis for deciding pension of Indian Armed Forces Personnel [1] In 1973, in the wake ofThird Central Pay Commission (3CPC), when Indira Gandhi was Prime Minister, and Jagjivan Ram was Defense Minister, the Indian National Congress Government, “took ex-parte decision against the One Rank One Pension formula”. One Rank One Pension (OROP) since then has become a contentious issue
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koshyari_Committee_Report_On_Grant_Of_One_Rank_One_Pension
The report does not contradict me. I just mentioned that prior to 1973, the pay of soldiers as well pension were based on table according to rank and length of service. So there was already one rank one poension before 1.1.1973. AQfter implementation of pay commission report 1973, there were pay scales and pension based on average emoluments. So the anamolies began. But the fauklt lies with Third pay commission and not Indira Gandhi. Even though the third pay commission ended one rank one pension, there were overall improvements.
10 years ago
rambabu replied to the topic Is Destruction necessary to bring peace?.
Manoj Kumar Lamba wrote:
rambabu wrote:
Manoj Kumar Lamba wrote:
As darkness cannot be completely removed, bad things also cannot be removed completely from the earth till life exists on it. If good ones exist then bad one will also exist on earth. It is true that there should be balance between good and bad. If bad things exceed over good ones, then destruction is necessary to keep balance.
Agreed. when a situation occurs wherein bad outnumber the Good, it is necessary to curb the bad. And in this process destruction is imminent.
And this process will continue till there is life exist on earth. Sometime bad will overcome, and destruction will occur to balance bad with good.
Yes. Whenever such situation arises, it leads to conflict and conflict leads to employing destructive methods.
10 years ago
rambabu replied to the topic What is the meaning of prayer?.
Prayers which seek boons are not prayers. Prayer is gesture of expressing gratitude.
10 years ago
Manoj Kumar Lamba replied to the topic Is Destruction necessary to bring peace?.
rambabu wrote:
Manoj Kumar Lamba wrote:
As darkness cannot be completely removed, bad things also cannot be removed completely from the earth till life exists on it. If good ones exist then bad one will also exist on earth. It is true that there should be balance between good and bad. If bad things exceed over good ones, then destruction is necessary to keep balance.
Agreed. when a situation occurs wherein bad outnumber the Good, it is necessary to curb the bad. And in this process destruction is imminent.
And this process will continue till there is life exist on earth. Sometime bad will overcome, and destruction will occur to balance bad with good.
10 years ago
rambabu replied to the topic Will it be good to have a National Language in India?.
The reason for Hindi words matching with other languages is all of them are born from Sanskrit. But in South India the languages used are born from Dravidian languages.
10 years ago
Manoj Kumar Lamba replied to the topic Will it be good to have a National Language in India?.
One reason that Hindi would be declared as National Language is that most of the words used in this language match with the many words used in different languages in different states or parts of India. Also the format of this language is similar to most languages of India. So it is better to declare Hindi as National language than any other language in India.
10 years ago
rambabu replied to the topic Is Destruction necessary to bring peace?.
Manoj Kumar Lamba wrote:
As darkness cannot be completely removed, bad things also cannot be removed completely from the earth till life exists on it. If good ones exist then bad one will also exist on earth. It is true that there should be balance between good and bad. If bad things exceed over good ones, then destruction is necessary to keep balance.
Agreed. when a situation occurs wherein bad outnumber the Good, it is necessary to curb the bad. And in this process destruction is imminent.
10 years ago
Manoj Kumar Lamba replied to the topic Is Destruction necessary to bring peace?.
As darkness cannot be completely removed, bad things also cannot be removed completely from the earth till life exists on it. If good ones exist then bad one will also exist on earth. It is true that there should be balance between good and bad. If bad things exceed over good ones, then destruction is necessary to keep balance.
10 years ago
Manoj Kumar Lamba replied to the topic What is the meaning of prayer?.
People pray to God so that they will not face any type of difficulty in future and get rid of those difficulties which they are facing. Many of us believe that praying will help us to achieve our targets and god helps us in different ways.
10 years ago
rambabu replied to the topic Is Destruction necessary to bring peace?.
suni51 wrote:
rambabu wrote:
The incident of Asuras winning over Suras is a temporary triumph. Truth triumphs always. May be in a delayed manner.
But then who is sure about existence of Asuras and Devas, so I would prefer to judge what is good or bad for myself.
that is still good. Your own discrimination stands by you.
10 years ago
rambabu replied to the topic What is the meaning of prayer?.
Well said. God i an infinite power within us. Rather I would say it's the power of self. Prayer in my view is a kind of affirmation. This is the promise made to yourself and sticking to it.
10 years ago
suni51 liked the topic Villagers garland empty chairs.
Telangana villagers garland empty chairs to protest lack of staff in schools.
It was an ironic, rather shameful Teachers’ Day celebrations in Telangana.
http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/telangana-villagers-garland-empty-chairs-to-protest-lack-of-staff-in-schools/article7619763.ece
10 years ago
RAMAKRISHNAN. A replied to the topic What is the meaning of prayer?.
Prayer is a dialogue between the devotee and God, usually a request to make everything smoothly. It is a one-side conversation where the devotee speaks and believes that his words are being heard by the god. …..My interpretation is that when a person prays, his prayers are heard by his own Self; but not by any third person outside him. If his prayers have feelings and power, his subconscious mind acts on them and creates necessary circumstances to produce the result. ….And the credit goes to God… True; He deserves it, because God is the Infinite power within our Self!
10 years ago
usha manohar replied to the topic How about Instant Publishing of Articles?.
suni51 wrote:
Kalyani Nandurkar wrote:
Personally, I do not favour instant publishing much at this point of time. With the exception of a very members, most members are comparatively new to article writing and the articles submitted are not so mature and upto the mark that they can be published instantly. Even if the facility was extended to senior writers here, I can 100% assure that even their articles need proof reading and refining where grammar, punctuation and formatting is concerned. Until now, I have not come across even a SINGLE article which was 100% error free. In such a scenario, publishing an article instantly and then finding errors in it is not desirable, neither does it cast favorable light on the website's reputation. Instead, admin approval process must be expedited and a time frame of less than 48 hours implemented from submitting to actual publication of article.
The article will go online only after an editor has cleared it. The editor has the option to return it to author unless he/she is satisfied entirely.
So how is this different from what is happening now ? and how can it be called instant publishing if it has to becleared by an editor and again wait for the admin to give cash credits...either way, I feel that if the whole process as it stands now, gets speedeed up it would be good enough. As things stand it is far too slow for articles to get published and there are not that many articles either !
10 years ago
suni51 replied to the topic Shouldn't legal professionals have some moral responsibility towards society?.
What I feel is that legal professionals have no obligation for society but go by the book of rule books. It's up to judges to see that the victims get best legal support, criminals the punishment and society gets a message.
10 years ago
suni51 replied to the topic How about Instant Publishing of Articles?.
@ chinmoymukherjee actually this is not as instant as it sounds. almost all articles are cleared by the admin once cleared by editors.
10 years ago
Shampa Sadhya created new topic Shouldn't legal profession have some moral responsibility towards society?.
In many legal cases such as murder, honour killing, rape and so on in which powerful people are involved then we get to see very reputed legal professionals fighting the case in favour of such beings. I know it's their profession and it is also known that in legal case truth is changed into false and vice versa but somehow I feel a bit discomfort. No one is above the law and no profession is above morality so in such a situation I am of the opinion that the legal professionals must stand up for the victim. It will help in eradicating the social evil from the society. Earning money should not be the only aim but must serve a right purpose.
10 years ago
chinmoymukherjee replied to the topic OROP Announced by the Government after 42 years of deadlock !.
I think the decision taken by this government
is as illogical as the demand made by some
retired army officers.How can one demand
pension of an amount which he did not earn!
With all my love and respect to them,I can't
justify their demands.They are well paid
with liberal perks and subsidies even after
retirement. I apprehend this might have opened
Pandora's box with similar demands coming
up from other sections of government sectors.
10 years ago
chinmoymukherjee replied to the topic How about Instant Publishing of Articles?.
Like all other 'instant' stuff,its appeal
too would Webb and disappear.Only quality
will be the casualty.It would lead to a situation
where both the writers and editors will be
rushed into doing what may not be very
edifying for the site.
10 years ago
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani replied to the topic OROP Announced by the Government after 42 years of deadlock !.
usha manohar wrote:
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani wrote:
rambabu wrote:
vijay wrote:
The thread initiator had written that Indira Gandhi had scrapped the OROP in 1973. @Gulshan says it was because of third pay commission abolishing the then prevailing system of pension calculation that the need for OROP arose in 1973. I tend to agree with Gulshanji's views as it is the correct position. I feel the references provided by @Rambabu and @Usha are not correct for which they are in no way responsible. Web based information portals are many times not reliable as they are not authenticated. My reason for pointing it out is to set the record straight as otherwise wrong information goes through. There was no OROP in 1973 and thus it could not have been scrapped.
Is there any basis for your info that there was no OROP in 1973?
I an a retired Defence employee. I was involved in pay fixation of 1973 pay commission report. Up to 1973, the army soldiers did not have any graded pay scales. Their pay was fixed according to chart showing pay on basis of lenghth of service and rank. This ensured that even if some body is promoted late, he would get the same pay as another promoted earlier but having same length of service. Similarly pension was fixed. The third c pay commission introduced pay scales. The pension is based on average emoluments in the last ten months. The pay commissions revise pay and pension in such a way that new comers gain more. So the old ones are relative losers. It is hence the system at fault and no individual including Indira Gandhi. It is not possible to give link as traditionally, all information about defence even pay scales are considered secret and the literature/ books are not available in market unlike civil books.
So in your opinion, this link and the Koshyari committee report has no relevance ??? And as the head of the nation, how is it that Indira Gandhi becomes blameless, that is news to me ! Is this something happens in a Congress led government because I see the same people blaming Modi all saffron deeds !!!
‘One Rank One Pension’ more widely known by its acronym OROP, until 1973, was the basis for deciding pension of Indian Armed Forces Personnel [1] In 1973, in the wake ofThird Central Pay Commission (3CPC), when Indira Gandhi was Prime Minister, and Jagjivan Ram was Defense Minister, the Indian National Congress Government, “took ex-parte decision against the One Rank One Pension formula”. One Rank One Pension (OROP) since then has become a contentious issue
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koshyari_Committee_Report_On_Grant_Of_One_Rank_One_Pension
The report does not contradict me. I just mentioned that prior to 1973, the pay of soldiers as well pension were based on table according to rank and length of service. So there was already one rank one poension before 1.1.1973. AQfter implementation of pay commission report 1973, there were pay scales and pension based on average emoluments. So the anamolies began. But the fauklt lies with Third pay commission and not Indira Gandhi. Even though the third pay commission ended one rank one pension, there were overall improvements.
10 years ago
rambabu replied to the topic Is Destruction necessary to bring peace?.
Manoj Kumar Lamba wrote:
rambabu wrote:
Manoj Kumar Lamba wrote:
As darkness cannot be completely removed, bad things also cannot be removed completely from the earth till life exists on it. If good ones exist then bad one will also exist on earth. It is true that there should be balance between good and bad. If bad things exceed over good ones, then destruction is necessary to keep balance.
Agreed. when a situation occurs wherein bad outnumber the Good, it is necessary to curb the bad. And in this process destruction is imminent.
And this process will continue till there is life exist on earth. Sometime bad will overcome, and destruction will occur to balance bad with good.
Yes. Whenever such situation arises, it leads to conflict and conflict leads to employing destructive methods.
10 years ago
rambabu replied to the topic What is the meaning of prayer?.
Prayers which seek boons are not prayers. Prayer is gesture of expressing gratitude.
10 years ago
Manoj Kumar Lamba replied to the topic Is Destruction necessary to bring peace?.
rambabu wrote:
Manoj Kumar Lamba wrote:
As darkness cannot be completely removed, bad things also cannot be removed completely from the earth till life exists on it. If good ones exist then bad one will also exist on earth. It is true that there should be balance between good and bad. If bad things exceed over good ones, then destruction is necessary to keep balance.
Agreed. when a situation occurs wherein bad outnumber the Good, it is necessary to curb the bad. And in this process destruction is imminent.
And this process will continue till there is life exist on earth. Sometime bad will overcome, and destruction will occur to balance bad with good.
10 years ago
rambabu replied to the topic Will it be good to have a National Language in India?.
The reason for Hindi words matching with other languages is all of them are born from Sanskrit. But in South India the languages used are born from Dravidian languages.
10 years ago
Manoj Kumar Lamba replied to the topic Will it be good to have a National Language in India?.
One reason that Hindi would be declared as National Language is that most of the words used in this language match with the many words used in different languages in different states or parts of India. Also the format of this language is similar to most languages of India. So it is better to declare Hindi as National language than any other language in India.
10 years ago
rambabu replied to the topic Is Destruction necessary to bring peace?.
Manoj Kumar Lamba wrote:
As darkness cannot be completely removed, bad things also cannot be removed completely from the earth till life exists on it. If good ones exist then bad one will also exist on earth. It is true that there should be balance between good and bad. If bad things exceed over good ones, then destruction is necessary to keep balance.
Agreed. when a situation occurs wherein bad outnumber the Good, it is necessary to curb the bad. And in this process destruction is imminent.
10 years ago
Manoj Kumar Lamba replied to the topic Is Destruction necessary to bring peace?.
As darkness cannot be completely removed, bad things also cannot be removed completely from the earth till life exists on it. If good ones exist then bad one will also exist on earth. It is true that there should be balance between good and bad. If bad things exceed over good ones, then destruction is necessary to keep balance.
10 years ago
Manoj Kumar Lamba replied to the topic What is the meaning of prayer?.
People pray to God so that they will not face any type of difficulty in future and get rid of those difficulties which they are facing. Many of us believe that praying will help us to achieve our targets and god helps us in different ways.
10 years ago
rambabu replied to the topic Is Destruction necessary to bring peace?.
suni51 wrote:
rambabu wrote:
The incident of Asuras winning over Suras is a temporary triumph. Truth triumphs always. May be in a delayed manner.
But then who is sure about existence of Asuras and Devas, so I would prefer to judge what is good or bad for myself.
that is still good. Your own discrimination stands by you.
10 years ago
rambabu replied to the topic What is the meaning of prayer?.
Well said. God i an infinite power within us. Rather I would say it's the power of self. Prayer in my view is a kind of affirmation. This is the promise made to yourself and sticking to it.
10 years ago
suni51 liked the topic Villagers garland empty chairs.
Telangana villagers garland empty chairs to protest lack of staff in schools.
It was an ironic, rather shameful Teachers’ Day celebrations in Telangana.
http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/telangana-villagers-garland-empty-chairs-to-protest-lack-of-staff-in-schools/article7619763.ece
10 years ago
RAMAKRISHNAN. A replied to the topic What is the meaning of prayer?.
Prayer is a dialogue between the devotee and God, usually a request to make everything smoothly. It is a one-side conversation where the devotee speaks and believes that his words are being heard by the god. …..My interpretation is that when a person prays, his prayers are heard by his own Self; but not by any third person outside him. If his prayers have feelings and power, his subconscious mind acts on them and creates necessary circumstances to produce the result. ….And the credit goes to God… True; He deserves it, because God is the Infinite power within our Self!
10 years ago