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anil wrote: Situation in Haryana is serious, Violence spread out is whole state. More than 550 trains were cancelled. Buses from adjoining state are not going in Haryana. Army and BSF called. Shoot at look order is giving in the state. % of reservation in 67% in Haryana. How much they want?  The question is not how much they want. Question is selective application of reservation. This will in due course lead to a caste war    
9 years ago
anil wrote: rambabu wrote: Shampa Sadhya wrote: anil wrote: usha manohar wrote: The maximum number of suicide cases are in Karnataka and the CM Siddaramaiah had made some such similar statement , even more insensitive , saying committing suicide had become a habit with farmers in villages and reporting it with relish was a fashion with the media, he had even questioned the media asking them, dont you have anything better to write about, \....No discussion was started about that news was here but of course BJP is news ...Although I am totally against what the BJP minister said about the suicide , it is very insensitive ! Suicide is not solution of problem. I don't know why they are doing. In my state case of farmers suicide is not like other states. Suicide is not habit of farmers but rubbish statements is habit of leaders. Truly, suicide is not a solution but the poor farmers usually are left with nothing else. The burden of debt is pathetic which frustrates them and they choose the path of suicide.  Respective state governments are expected to sell the farmers Seeds at a subsidized price. But sadly, many governments are selling away the seeds to black marketeers so that the respective MLA pockets the commission. Under such conditions, the farmers are forced to go for loans which, he cannot repay. Last year agriculture minister of Punjab also pocket commission and duplicate pesticides supplied by manufactures. Crops of cotton destroyed with it. Resultant some farmers commit suicide. Farmers must be think for other means of income like polutry, dairy, and also another crops than traditional. @anil Lack of education is one very important point which never allows the farmers to think beyond agriculture. There are options like poultry and many more but the farmers fail to take the advantage of it only because they do not have a sound educational and financial background.         
9 years ago
9 years ago
usha manohar wrote: Shampa Sadhya wrote: Jincy Aby wrote: usha manohar wrote: While I have the highest regard for the standard of education and the disciplinary aspects of Convent schools, I have some bad memories as well because of the unfairness of it ! Christian girls were allowed to wear crosses whereas Hindu girls were asked to remove any religious pendants on a chain, it happened to me and when I questioned them, they were quite insulting about Hinduism. There were several other such minor incidents which left a mark on me and others as well. I met the nuns many years later and we spoke on the same subject and they did feel that they could have avoided it.This changed view was probably because of the changed atmosphere in Mangalore and Bangalore where Hindus had begun to strike back by then and were not ready to take such things lying down !  The Christian educational institutions which are run by Parish Priests are all right because they give necessary freedom to all children. But in convent schools, the nuns are always very strict and rude and do not give freedom to children. They do not know the feelings of children because they are not mothers. Rejecting children from wearing their own religious symbols are too much. Never do like that. But there is one plus point for convent schools that the children who studied in convent schools are always seemed to be so smart as a result of their proper training.  Fortunately, I never had such a bad experience neither in my school or college life in Carmel. I never heard that any student faced such a discrimination. Thank God! Carmel in Patna was not like that.     It also depends on how concentrated the place is with a particular community. North India does not have the same density of Christian population as south India has. Mangalore has a very large number of Christians both Catholic and Protestants who have contributed a lot for the betterment of the city and also have many educational institutions run by them. This used to makes them a little arrogant and behave in a high handed manner, not any more though ! You definitely have a strong point. In Patna, Bihar there are many Missionary schools and during my time too there were many such schools but certainly they were not the majority so may be their approach was different.
9 years ago
anil wrote: rambabu wrote: Shampa Sadhya wrote: Babu saroj wrote: Shampa Sadhya wrote: Babu saroj wrote: Well my thinking is that the student should focus on their studies rather than doing all this. and if they want to do all this then there are other ways of doing that because they are students and this kind of behaviour is not meant for the students  Students are the future of a country and so they need to voice their opinion. Yes, what is required is a right mentor who can guide them on the path that leads to a better country. Student politics is not new but they should not be misguided. Even the students played important role in our Freedom Struggle. A link for you: http://www.merinews.com/article/role-of-students-in-the-indian-independence-movement/15908767.shtml that's only i was saying that they are students and they are educated so why they are doing all these there are many other ways also to get justice. i mean to say that this is not the proper way for a student to do all these, this doesn't set a good example. The problem is that most of the students fail to keep themselves away from college politics because the political parties usually in some or the other way drag them into it. Some students smartly avoid it but some definitely get trapped and that's where the problem is.  No politician drags a student in to politics, unless the student is willing. Politicians need not be blamed. it is not right that most of students like collage politics, only who wants to join politics as profession involve in collage politics. It is right that directly politicians don't drag students in politics, but their representive in collage done this work.   It seems @rambabu thought I meant to say that the popular politicians go to the campuses and apply force to drag the students into politics. Every political party has a student's wing and they are very much controlled by their parent body. The student's wing work according to the parent body's instruction and so those students who show a little more interest in politics are usually counselled and motivated. This is a fact.  
9 years ago
Today 6 jats are reported killed in Haryana. This is sad and shows how volatile the situation is.. this is the beginning  Just watch what happens in another few years.
9 years ago
anil wrote: Gulshan Kumar Ajmani wrote: I feel that best way out is to abolish caste based reservations. Instead there should be free and equal education and medical care for all. This may ensure that all get equal and fair opportunities.  yes it is best one solution of this problem. Poor is poor what may their caste. But who will do it. Our politician know only caste and religion based politics. Who will bell the cat?STCASTE BASED  reservation won't go away and sadly India is doomed      
9 years ago
usha manohar replied to the topic Reservations on Caste.
What happened in Uttarakand was a man made disaster which could have been easily avoided if the greedy politicians had the sense to listen to the experts who had cautioned them against building on the banks and close to it because the river is bound to flood when there is heavy rain or snow burst ! 
9 years ago
Shampa Sadhya wrote: Jincy Aby wrote: usha manohar wrote: While I have the highest regard for the standard of education and the disciplinary aspects of Convent schools, I have some bad memories as well because of the unfairness of it ! Christian girls were allowed to wear crosses whereas Hindu girls were asked to remove any religious pendants on a chain, it happened to me and when I questioned them, they were quite insulting about Hinduism. There were several other such minor incidents which left a mark on me and others as well. I met the nuns many years later and we spoke on the same subject and they did feel that they could have avoided it.This changed view was probably because of the changed atmosphere in Mangalore and Bangalore where Hindus had begun to strike back by then and were not ready to take such things lying down !  The Christian educational institutions which are run by Parish Priests are all right because they give necessary freedom to all children. But in convent schools, the nuns are always very strict and rude and do not give freedom to children. They do not know the feelings of children because they are not mothers. Rejecting children from wearing their own religious symbols are too much. Never do like that. But there is one plus point for convent schools that the children who studied in convent schools are always seemed to be so smart as a result of their proper training.  Fortunately, I never had such a bad experience neither in my school or college life in Carmel. I never heard that any student faced such a discrimination. Thank God! Carmel in Patna was not like that.     It also depends on how concentrated the place is with a particular community. North India does not have the same density of Christian population as south India has. Mangalore has a very large number of Christians both Catholic and Protestants who have contributed a lot for the betterment of the city and also have many educational institutions run by them. This used to makes them a little arrogant and behave in a high handed manner, not any more though !
9 years ago
anil replied to the topic Reservations on Caste.
rambabu wrote: MG Singh wrote: rambabu wrote: vijay wrote: What has earthquakes got to do with Malthusian theory which has been proven wrong by increase in world population many times over in spite of natural calamities,since he predicted it in late 18th century. Please be flexible and revise your opinion when facts are presented.    Please take the trouble of referring the back pages of this discussion. You said Natural calamities can be predicted and destruction of lives can be prevented, Then I responded that despite technological advances , natural calamities cannot be predicted. Population destruction is imminent This is how Nature controls the population. And this is what the  Malthusian theory of population says, " Nature has the control over population growth." And in this context, I cited the examples of HUDHUD ,Earth quakes and other such Natural calamities. If Malthusian theory has been proved wrong, I request you to provide a proof and enlighten me.   Good points raised. Yes, nature always balances population by natural selection.   I was a victim of Hudhud. I have seen how these natural calamities wiped off the entire development that took decades in a split second. And the entire world has seen Nepal Earth quake. And the latest earth quake in Indonesia. You forgot flood of Uttra Khand, that was cost of development. Government control flow of Ganga river with Tehri dam but Ganga destroyed all thing what she want.        
9 years ago
Partibha Patil, EX president of India is close of Gandhi's is family. She also devote some time as governor of Rajasthan. She married with Rajasthani Ram Singh Shekhawat.
9 years ago
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani wrote: vijay wrote: Another approach is why worry so much about taking a risk for only Rs 251/-  The risk for a purchaser is just Rs. 251/-. But the company will gather very high amount.  They are not likely to face litigation or strong protests from individual customers. So their risk of facing disappointed customers is also small.  We need to not only look in the manufacturing cost but also the manufacturing capacity available in the factory of the company. It seems that they are just fooling. What you write may be right but why government is supporting this project. Today I read that father of owner of this company is still running a tiny shop of grocery at Shamli village near Delhi. How this person manage all these, it is question.   
9 years ago
rambabu wrote: anil wrote: rambabu wrote: anil wrote: Gulshan Kumar Ajmani wrote: I feel that best way out is to abolish caste based reservations. Instead there should be free and equal education and medical care for all. This may ensure that all get equal and fair opportunities.  yes it is best one solution of this problem. Poor is poor what may their caste. But who will do it. Our politician know only caste and religion based politics.   Politicians irrespective of the parties, will see that Caste system remains forever. Yes all are alike, but public don't like to understand that these are making fool them.    Yes. Public is gullible. And this Gullibility factor is well capitalized by the Greedy politicians for strengthening their Vote Banks Public is ready to die on one call of politicians but it surprising that after 69 years of freedom public did not understand character of politicians.            
9 years ago
Situation in Haryana is serious, Violence spread out is whole state. More than 550 trains were cancelled. Buses from adjoining state are not going in Haryana. Army and BSF called. Shoot at look order is giving in the state. % of reservation in 67% in Haryana. How much they want? 
9 years ago
rambabu wrote: Shampa Sadhya wrote: Babu saroj wrote: Shampa Sadhya wrote: Babu saroj wrote: Well my thinking is that the student should focus on their studies rather than doing all this. and if they want to do all this then there are other ways of doing that because they are students and this kind of behaviour is not meant for the students  Students are the future of a country and so they need to voice their opinion. Yes, what is required is a right mentor who can guide them on the path that leads to a better country. Student politics is not new but they should not be misguided. Even the students played important role in our Freedom Struggle. A link for you: http://www.merinews.com/article/role-of-students-in-the-indian-independence-movement/15908767.shtml that's only i was saying that they are students and they are educated so why they are doing all these there are many other ways also to get justice. i mean to say that this is not the proper way for a student to do all these, this doesn't set a good example. The problem is that most of the students fail to keep themselves away from college politics because the political parties usually in some or the other way drag them into it. Some students smartly avoid it but some definitely get trapped and that's where the problem is.  No politician drags a student in to politics, unless the student is willing. Politicians need not be blamed. it is not right that most of students like collage politics, only who wants to join politics as profession involve in collage politics. It is right that directly politicians don't drag students in politics, but their representive in collage done this work.    
9 years ago
Shampa Sadhya wrote: anil wrote: Shampa Sadhya wrote: Babu saroj wrote: Well my thinking is that the student should focus on their studies rather than doing all this. and if they want to do all this then there are other ways of doing that because they are students and this kind of behaviour is not meant for the students  Students are the future of a country and so they need to voice their opinion. Yes, what is required is a right mentor who can guide them on the path that leads to a better country. Student politics is not new but they should not be misguided. Even the students played important role in our Freedom Struggle. A link for you: http://www.merinews.com/article/role-of-students-in-the-indian-independence-movement/15908767.shtml Student politics is OK, but involvement of political parties in collage politics is not acceptable. Yes and this has to be understood by the different political leaders. They must not engage the young minds for their selfish motive and ruin the lives of these students. In the larger context the country will be at a huge loss when such young minds take a wrong path. President of JLNU is member of CPI, just think who is supporting him, Communists are always anti Hindu as well India.            
9 years ago
anil liked a reply to the topic Anti India slogan in JNU, Delhi.
9 years ago
rambabu wrote: Shampa Sadhya wrote: anil wrote: usha manohar wrote: The maximum number of suicide cases are in Karnataka and the CM Siddaramaiah had made some such similar statement , even more insensitive , saying committing suicide had become a habit with farmers in villages and reporting it with relish was a fashion with the media, he had even questioned the media asking them, dont you have anything better to write about, \....No discussion was started about that news was here but of course BJP is news ...Although I am totally against what the BJP minister said about the suicide , it is very insensitive ! Suicide is not solution of problem. I don't know why they are doing. In my state case of farmers suicide is not like other states. Suicide is not habit of farmers but rubbish statements is habit of leaders. Truly, suicide is not a solution but the poor farmers usually are left with nothing else. The burden of debt is pathetic which frustrates them and they choose the path of suicide.  Respective state governments are expected to sell the farmers Seeds at a subsidized price. But sadly, many governments are selling away the seeds to black marketeers so that the respective MLA pockets the commission. Under such conditions, the farmers are forced to go for loans which, he cannot repay. Last year agriculture minister of Punjab also pocket commission and duplicate pesticides supplied by manufactures. Crops of cotton destroyed with it. Resultant some farmers commit suicide. Farmers must be think for other means of income like polutry, dairy, and also another crops than traditional.    
9 years ago
Shampa Sadhya wrote: anil wrote: usha manohar wrote: The maximum number of suicide cases are in Karnataka and the CM Siddaramaiah had made some such similar statement , even more insensitive , saying committing suicide had become a habit with farmers in villages and reporting it with relish was a fashion with the media, he had even questioned the media asking them, dont you have anything better to write about, \....No discussion was started about that news was here but of course BJP is news ...Although I am totally against what the BJP minister said about the suicide , it is very insensitive ! Suicide is not solution of problem. I don't know why they are doing. In my state case of farmers suicide is not like other states. Suicide is not habit of farmers but rubbish statements is habit of leaders. Truly, suicide is not a solution but the poor farmers usually are left with nothing else. The burden of debt is pathetic which frustrates them and they choose the path of suicide.  It is fact that farmers are neglected community in India. They are getting fair price of their crops. Benefits of subsidy is going to rice farmers. it is time for farmers to think about zero cost farming.  
9 years ago