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suni51 said thank you to Gulshan Kumar Ajmani for his/her reply to the topic Your reputation depends on what kind of people you are working with..
rambabu wrote:
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani wrote:
Some have given example of Raja Ram Mohan Roy, a great social revolutionary who fought successfully for abolition of Sati. But the theme is that a man is known by the company he keeps with. This is beyond doubt. A man moves with people of his type. Birds of a feather flock together. But again the theme is moving with persons you are working with. Moving in social relation and friends differs from moving with persons you work with. You will definitely choose friends of your own liking and you will be known by the company you keep. But when it comes to work, you have to work with people of diverse type. It is a merit to adjust with persons of different type as I have said elsewhere in this thread. You cannot always choose colleagues, boss and subordinates. You have to work with those who have been appointed to work with you.
Of course sir, one cannot choose the personnel with whom you are going to work. Appointing the persons is in the somebody's hands. But can have the option to work with them or otherwise. If you are confident enough that you can make the personnel appointed to make them work according to your methods and beliefs, you can work with them. Otherwise your only option left for you is to quit. It all depends on how you view and and interpret the things.
My only fear is that if you can't adjust in working environment and decide to quit, then you may have to quit again and again as it is seldom that you get colleagues or associates according to your own choice.
10 years ago
suni51 replied to the topic Your reputation depends on what kind of people you are working with..
usha manohar wrote:
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani wrote:
My only fear is that if you can't adjust in working environment and decide to quit, then you may have to quit again and again as it is seldom that you get colleagues or associates according to your own choice.
Very true, we cannot choose nor change the atmosphere most of the times. We have to adjust and compromise at all levels or else you stick out like a sore thumb ! Expecting an organisation to adjust to you is unreasonable unless you have some stake in it ..
That is worth considering and give it a thought.
10 years ago
usha manohar replied to the topic Your reputation depends on what kind of people you are working with..
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani wrote:
My only fear is that if you can't adjust in working environment and decide to quit, then you may have to quit again and again as it is seldom that you get colleagues or associates according to your own choice.
Very true, we cannot choose nor change the atmosphere most of the times. We have to adjust and compromise at all levels or else you stick out like a sore thumb ! Expecting an organisation to adjust to you is unreasonable unless you have some stake in it ..
10 years ago
usha manohar liked a reply to the topic Your reputation depends on what kind of people you are working with..
10 years ago
usha manohar created new topic Writers returning their awards - what do they hope to achieve?.
We see quite a few writers returning their awards just as a protest against the recent killings of rationalists in Maharashtra and Karnataka...6 Kannada writers , Nayan tara Sehgal from the Nehru family, kerala writer Sarah Joseph and a few others ..
These rational writers are behaving in a very irrational and immature manner by doing this.What exactly do they hope to achieve? the awards were given to them by the previous governments and even a lay person like me would never insult anyone who gives me a gift or put down someone who has recognised my contribution. They are insulting the nation by doing this , probably thinking that they would show the present government in a poor light, which will not work.
They no doubt feel threatened by the killings .Narendra Dabholkar was killed in 2013 when UPA was in power and the other two happened during this year..So are the rationalists blaming only the present government? As far as the general public is concerned, although some of the rationalists' methods and speeches may seem as crude as the extremists but I doubt if anyone would want to cause physical harm to them. Instead of trying to alienate and conduct themselves in a superior manner, if they try to assimilate with the people and gain their understanding, things would get sorted out and even the hard core elements would probably soften their attitude towards them
10 years ago
rambabu replied to the topic Honesty is not the Best policy ?.
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani wrote:
Honesty is very dangerous these days. Danger is from two sides. first dishonest boss and colleaugues. You work in a team. An honest person is weakest link that needs be broken. Secondly, this is the customer/ client who wishes his illegal work done for payment of suitable amount. Here I am tempted to narrate an example of how my father an officer in Defence ministry tackled. There was a very honest supervisor. He would not like to get any thing from contractors and would work only regularly. His subordinates were unhappy. Commission for releasing payments to contractors is age old tradition since British rule. My father told the supervisor that he may not receive anything but he could allow his subordinate to get the commission and distribute or if preferred he could give that in some charity as well. The supervisor was adamant. Ultimately he had to be transferred elsewhere.
The present scenario prevailing in the country speaks for itself that Honesty never pays. We can see how some of the whistle blowers are being hunted and killed. In this case pertaining to your father, reestablishes the fact that Honesty never pays.
That's why they say " Truth is bitter." How many in the society can digest this fact ?
10 years ago
rambabu replied to the topic What is Reflexology ?.
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani wrote:
Is this not the same as accupressure and a variant of Chinese system Accupuncture.
They are similar in some respects. but as far as the location of the pressure points are concerned they are different. Both treatments stimulate these pressure points.
10 years ago
rambabu replied to the topic Witch killings in Odisha..
True. Ignorance and superstitions about Health leads to such gory killings. It seems spreading awareness in the people may help to some extent. I'm sure no legislation can stop this witch hunting. Even if somebody falls sick for any reason, witch hunters especially in the villages think that it is done by witches.
10 years ago
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani replied to the topic Honesty is not the Best policy ?.
Honesty is very dangerous these days. Danger is from two sides. first dishonest boss and colleaugues. You work in a team. An honest person is weakest link that needs be broken. Secondly, this is the customer/ client who wishes his illegal work done for payment of suitable amount. Here I am tempted to narrate an example of how my father an officer in Defence ministry tackled. There was a very honest supervisor. He would not like to get any thing from contractors and would work only regularly. His subordinates were unhappy. Commission for releasing payments to contractors is age old tradition since British rule. My father told the supervisor that he may not receive anything but he could allow his subordinate to get the commission and distribute or if preferred he could give that in some charity as well. The supervisor was adamant. Ultimately he had to be transferred elsewhere.
10 years ago
rambabu replied to the topic Your reputation depends on what kind of people you are working with..
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani wrote:
rambabu wrote:
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani wrote:
Some have given example of Raja Ram Mohan Roy, a great social revolutionary who fought successfully for abolition of Sati. But the theme is that a man is known by the company he keeps with. This is beyond doubt. A man moves with people of his type. Birds of a feather flock together. But again the theme is moving with persons you are working with. Moving in social relation and friends differs from moving with persons you work with. You will definitely choose friends of your own liking and you will be known by the company you keep. But when it comes to work, you have to work with people of diverse type. It is a merit to adjust with persons of different type as I have said elsewhere in this thread. You cannot always choose colleagues, boss and subordinates. You have to work with those who have been appointed to work with you.
Of course sir, one cannot choose the personnel with whom you are going to work. Appointing the persons is in the somebody's hands. But can have the option to work with them or otherwise. If you are confident enough that you can make the personnel appointed to make them work according to your methods and beliefs, you can work with them. Otherwise your only option left for you is to quit. It all depends on how you view and and interpret the things.
My only fear is that if you can't adjust in working environment and decide to quit, then you may have to quit again and again as it is seldom that you get colleagues or associates according to your own choice.
Of course. Luckily it did not happen with me in the past. I did not force anybody to follow me. It was the Boss of my Ad agency agreed with me. Seeing this my other colleagues to followed the suit.
10 years ago
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani replied to the topic What is Reflexology ?.
Is this not the same as accupressure and a variant of Chinese system Accupuncture.
10 years ago
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani replied to the topic Witch killings in Odisha..
This is indeed shocking. There is lack of scientific education and temperament in the country. There is need for a strong movement against superstitions. But such movement is like going through fire. It is well known how some rationalists and anti superstion crusadors have beek killed in Maharashtra and Karnataka.
10 years ago
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani replied to the topic Home for physically and mentally challenged.
This post promotes a particular organization. The link is nothing but a brocure of the organization. Such posts are not desirable. Hence this is being locked.
10 years ago
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani replied to the topic Your reputation depends on what kind of people you are working with..
rambabu wrote:
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani wrote:
Some have given example of Raja Ram Mohan Roy, a great social revolutionary who fought successfully for abolition of Sati. But the theme is that a man is known by the company he keeps with. This is beyond doubt. A man moves with people of his type. Birds of a feather flock together. But again the theme is moving with persons you are working with. Moving in social relation and friends differs from moving with persons you work with. You will definitely choose friends of your own liking and you will be known by the company you keep. But when it comes to work, you have to work with people of diverse type. It is a merit to adjust with persons of different type as I have said elsewhere in this thread. You cannot always choose colleagues, boss and subordinates. You have to work with those who have been appointed to work with you.
Of course sir, one cannot choose the personnel with whom you are going to work. Appointing the persons is in the somebody's hands. But can have the option to work with them or otherwise. If you are confident enough that you can make the personnel appointed to make them work according to your methods and beliefs, you can work with them. Otherwise your only option left for you is to quit. It all depends on how you view and and interpret the things.
My only fear is that if you can't adjust in working environment and decide to quit, then you may have to quit again and again as it is seldom that you get colleagues or associates according to your own choice.
10 years ago
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani replied to the topic Should popular personalities judge a person's credibility?.
The Talwars are undergoing jail sentence as a result of court finding them guilty. There is nothing wring in expressing opinion about their involement in murder of their daughter. The circumstancial evidence clearly pointed to their involvement in the murder. Honor killing is the only reason that appears from the murder.
10 years ago
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani liked a reply to the topic Should popular personalities judge a person's credibility?.
10 years ago
rambabu replied to the topic Should popular personalities judge a person's credibility?.
Kalyani Nandurkar wrote:
rambabu wrote:
Shobha De 's blog describes Arushi's parents as Monsters. Of course if it's her opinion it OK If it is a verdict well I don't know whether it is ridiculous or not. The link has been given in the article itself.
http://shobhaade.blogspot.in/2013/04/aarushis-monster-parents.html
In the earlier post, it was you who compared Shobha De's opinion with that of Khap panchayat and now you are changing the tune. Highly confusing and highly undesirable!!!
True. It was Anil who compared Shobha De's opinion as Khap Panchayat opinion. It's also true that I agreed with Anil. If you feel I changed my opinion and highly undesirable, I will mend myself. As the discussion is progressing it may so happen that versions may change.
Anyhow, I assure you that i will mend myself.
10 years ago
suni51 said thank you to Gulshan Kumar Ajmani for his/her reply to the topic Your reputation depends on what kind of people you are working with..
rambabu wrote:
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani wrote:
Some have given example of Raja Ram Mohan Roy, a great social revolutionary who fought successfully for abolition of Sati. But the theme is that a man is known by the company he keeps with. This is beyond doubt. A man moves with people of his type. Birds of a feather flock together. But again the theme is moving with persons you are working with. Moving in social relation and friends differs from moving with persons you work with. You will definitely choose friends of your own liking and you will be known by the company you keep. But when it comes to work, you have to work with people of diverse type. It is a merit to adjust with persons of different type as I have said elsewhere in this thread. You cannot always choose colleagues, boss and subordinates. You have to work with those who have been appointed to work with you.
Of course sir, one cannot choose the personnel with whom you are going to work. Appointing the persons is in the somebody's hands. But can have the option to work with them or otherwise. If you are confident enough that you can make the personnel appointed to make them work according to your methods and beliefs, you can work with them. Otherwise your only option left for you is to quit. It all depends on how you view and and interpret the things.
My only fear is that if you can't adjust in working environment and decide to quit, then you may have to quit again and again as it is seldom that you get colleagues or associates according to your own choice.
10 years ago
suni51 replied to the topic Your reputation depends on what kind of people you are working with..
usha manohar wrote:
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani wrote:
My only fear is that if you can't adjust in working environment and decide to quit, then you may have to quit again and again as it is seldom that you get colleagues or associates according to your own choice.
Very true, we cannot choose nor change the atmosphere most of the times. We have to adjust and compromise at all levels or else you stick out like a sore thumb ! Expecting an organisation to adjust to you is unreasonable unless you have some stake in it ..
That is worth considering and give it a thought.
10 years ago
usha manohar replied to the topic Your reputation depends on what kind of people you are working with..
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani wrote:
My only fear is that if you can't adjust in working environment and decide to quit, then you may have to quit again and again as it is seldom that you get colleagues or associates according to your own choice.
Very true, we cannot choose nor change the atmosphere most of the times. We have to adjust and compromise at all levels or else you stick out like a sore thumb ! Expecting an organisation to adjust to you is unreasonable unless you have some stake in it ..
10 years ago
usha manohar liked a reply to the topic Your reputation depends on what kind of people you are working with..
10 years ago
usha manohar created new topic Writers returning their awards - what do they hope to achieve?.
We see quite a few writers returning their awards just as a protest against the recent killings of rationalists in Maharashtra and Karnataka...6 Kannada writers , Nayan tara Sehgal from the Nehru family, kerala writer Sarah Joseph and a few others ..
These rational writers are behaving in a very irrational and immature manner by doing this.What exactly do they hope to achieve? the awards were given to them by the previous governments and even a lay person like me would never insult anyone who gives me a gift or put down someone who has recognised my contribution. They are insulting the nation by doing this , probably thinking that they would show the present government in a poor light, which will not work.
They no doubt feel threatened by the killings .Narendra Dabholkar was killed in 2013 when UPA was in power and the other two happened during this year..So are the rationalists blaming only the present government? As far as the general public is concerned, although some of the rationalists' methods and speeches may seem as crude as the extremists but I doubt if anyone would want to cause physical harm to them. Instead of trying to alienate and conduct themselves in a superior manner, if they try to assimilate with the people and gain their understanding, things would get sorted out and even the hard core elements would probably soften their attitude towards them
10 years ago
rambabu replied to the topic Honesty is not the Best policy ?.
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani wrote:
Honesty is very dangerous these days. Danger is from two sides. first dishonest boss and colleaugues. You work in a team. An honest person is weakest link that needs be broken. Secondly, this is the customer/ client who wishes his illegal work done for payment of suitable amount. Here I am tempted to narrate an example of how my father an officer in Defence ministry tackled. There was a very honest supervisor. He would not like to get any thing from contractors and would work only regularly. His subordinates were unhappy. Commission for releasing payments to contractors is age old tradition since British rule. My father told the supervisor that he may not receive anything but he could allow his subordinate to get the commission and distribute or if preferred he could give that in some charity as well. The supervisor was adamant. Ultimately he had to be transferred elsewhere.
The present scenario prevailing in the country speaks for itself that Honesty never pays. We can see how some of the whistle blowers are being hunted and killed. In this case pertaining to your father, reestablishes the fact that Honesty never pays.
That's why they say " Truth is bitter." How many in the society can digest this fact ?
10 years ago
rambabu replied to the topic What is Reflexology ?.
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani wrote:
Is this not the same as accupressure and a variant of Chinese system Accupuncture.
They are similar in some respects. but as far as the location of the pressure points are concerned they are different. Both treatments stimulate these pressure points.
10 years ago
rambabu replied to the topic Witch killings in Odisha..
True. Ignorance and superstitions about Health leads to such gory killings. It seems spreading awareness in the people may help to some extent. I'm sure no legislation can stop this witch hunting. Even if somebody falls sick for any reason, witch hunters especially in the villages think that it is done by witches.
10 years ago
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani replied to the topic Honesty is not the Best policy ?.
Honesty is very dangerous these days. Danger is from two sides. first dishonest boss and colleaugues. You work in a team. An honest person is weakest link that needs be broken. Secondly, this is the customer/ client who wishes his illegal work done for payment of suitable amount. Here I am tempted to narrate an example of how my father an officer in Defence ministry tackled. There was a very honest supervisor. He would not like to get any thing from contractors and would work only regularly. His subordinates were unhappy. Commission for releasing payments to contractors is age old tradition since British rule. My father told the supervisor that he may not receive anything but he could allow his subordinate to get the commission and distribute or if preferred he could give that in some charity as well. The supervisor was adamant. Ultimately he had to be transferred elsewhere.
10 years ago
rambabu replied to the topic Your reputation depends on what kind of people you are working with..
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani wrote:
rambabu wrote:
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani wrote:
Some have given example of Raja Ram Mohan Roy, a great social revolutionary who fought successfully for abolition of Sati. But the theme is that a man is known by the company he keeps with. This is beyond doubt. A man moves with people of his type. Birds of a feather flock together. But again the theme is moving with persons you are working with. Moving in social relation and friends differs from moving with persons you work with. You will definitely choose friends of your own liking and you will be known by the company you keep. But when it comes to work, you have to work with people of diverse type. It is a merit to adjust with persons of different type as I have said elsewhere in this thread. You cannot always choose colleagues, boss and subordinates. You have to work with those who have been appointed to work with you.
Of course sir, one cannot choose the personnel with whom you are going to work. Appointing the persons is in the somebody's hands. But can have the option to work with them or otherwise. If you are confident enough that you can make the personnel appointed to make them work according to your methods and beliefs, you can work with them. Otherwise your only option left for you is to quit. It all depends on how you view and and interpret the things.
My only fear is that if you can't adjust in working environment and decide to quit, then you may have to quit again and again as it is seldom that you get colleagues or associates according to your own choice.
Of course. Luckily it did not happen with me in the past. I did not force anybody to follow me. It was the Boss of my Ad agency agreed with me. Seeing this my other colleagues to followed the suit.
10 years ago
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani replied to the topic What is Reflexology ?.
Is this not the same as accupressure and a variant of Chinese system Accupuncture.
10 years ago
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani replied to the topic Witch killings in Odisha..
This is indeed shocking. There is lack of scientific education and temperament in the country. There is need for a strong movement against superstitions. But such movement is like going through fire. It is well known how some rationalists and anti superstion crusadors have beek killed in Maharashtra and Karnataka.
10 years ago
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani replied to the topic Home for physically and mentally challenged.
This post promotes a particular organization. The link is nothing but a brocure of the organization. Such posts are not desirable. Hence this is being locked.
10 years ago
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani replied to the topic Your reputation depends on what kind of people you are working with..
rambabu wrote:
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani wrote:
Some have given example of Raja Ram Mohan Roy, a great social revolutionary who fought successfully for abolition of Sati. But the theme is that a man is known by the company he keeps with. This is beyond doubt. A man moves with people of his type. Birds of a feather flock together. But again the theme is moving with persons you are working with. Moving in social relation and friends differs from moving with persons you work with. You will definitely choose friends of your own liking and you will be known by the company you keep. But when it comes to work, you have to work with people of diverse type. It is a merit to adjust with persons of different type as I have said elsewhere in this thread. You cannot always choose colleagues, boss and subordinates. You have to work with those who have been appointed to work with you.
Of course sir, one cannot choose the personnel with whom you are going to work. Appointing the persons is in the somebody's hands. But can have the option to work with them or otherwise. If you are confident enough that you can make the personnel appointed to make them work according to your methods and beliefs, you can work with them. Otherwise your only option left for you is to quit. It all depends on how you view and and interpret the things.
My only fear is that if you can't adjust in working environment and decide to quit, then you may have to quit again and again as it is seldom that you get colleagues or associates according to your own choice.
10 years ago
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani replied to the topic Should popular personalities judge a person's credibility?.
The Talwars are undergoing jail sentence as a result of court finding them guilty. There is nothing wring in expressing opinion about their involement in murder of their daughter. The circumstancial evidence clearly pointed to their involvement in the murder. Honor killing is the only reason that appears from the murder.
10 years ago
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani liked a reply to the topic Should popular personalities judge a person's credibility?.
10 years ago
rambabu replied to the topic Should popular personalities judge a person's credibility?.
Kalyani Nandurkar wrote:
rambabu wrote:
Shobha De 's blog describes Arushi's parents as Monsters. Of course if it's her opinion it OK If it is a verdict well I don't know whether it is ridiculous or not. The link has been given in the article itself.
http://shobhaade.blogspot.in/2013/04/aarushis-monster-parents.html
In the earlier post, it was you who compared Shobha De's opinion with that of Khap panchayat and now you are changing the tune. Highly confusing and highly undesirable!!!
True. It was Anil who compared Shobha De's opinion as Khap Panchayat opinion. It's also true that I agreed with Anil. If you feel I changed my opinion and highly undesirable, I will mend myself. As the discussion is progressing it may so happen that versions may change.
Anyhow, I assure you that i will mend myself.
10 years ago