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10 years ago
Shampa Sadhya replied to the topic Is it really a beginning of women empowerment?.
I am not convinced by this method. It sounds quite heavy that the committee has given a good thought about theme and it is so conscious about the social issues that it's trying to remove the bad practice. This cannot be the ultimate way but every day such a theme has to be promoted and observed upon. Then only some changes can take place.
10 years ago
anil replied to the topic Can there be a permanent solution to Cow Slaughter .
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani wrote:
anil wrote:
usha manohar wrote:
suni51 wrote:
usha manohar wrote:
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani wrote:
The suggestion for import of beef does not appear appropriate. India is major beef exporter. However this is now cow meat. Buffalo meat goes in name of beef. Banning cow slaughter and importing beef is self contradictory. Ban to be effective is to be on cow slaughter as well as on beef eating. But such ban can be only according to food habits and culture prevailing in he region.
In fact importing beef makes a lot of sense to me because f the following reasons
1, It puts an end to clashes that arise out d cow slaughter , the law for which is not at all clear cut
2, In India cows are slaughtered fr consumption after they are past their prime and are f no use fr those who sell milk or use them in cultivation purpose, which makes the meat rubbery and of poor quality.
3,Many beef eaters complain about the poor quality of beef available for local use whereas in other countries the quality is far better , so those who want to eat beef , may not be in a very large number in our country get a better choice sans the continuous friction that we have now because of the cow slaughter.
With due regards there are at least 40 crore people who eat beef and when I say beef that includes cow as well. You may find it exaggerated but that is the hard truth. So we can cater to them using our own organised sector which can take care of the demand and at the same time keeping the illegal butchery out of the picture.
If we go into history we have had cattle slaughter ban since the medieval times and even during Mughal times .When British came here they started the first slaughter house in Calcutta . However there is reference of a large number of Hindus , even Brahmins and some of the Hindu Gods eating beef in the Vedas. Coming to the present times , as many as 24 states have banned slaughter of cows because of the changed perceptions. The number f beef eaters is abut 80 millions which is a small number compared to the total population
http://www.livemint.com/Politics/RhPVLUFmclIDWRIiSoTC7N/Who-are-the-beef-eaters-in-India.html
It is not believable that gods eat beef. this rubbish statement is given my one political leader. In which Veda it is written that God eats beef. If we Indian wants to live with peace here, never listen what leaders are saying. Ignore these.
I agree. The current opinion and belief is more relevant. We need not bother about the food habits in ancient India. Even if the Aryans ate beef, that is not relevant today. We have to make law and abide by that according to current conditions. So it is okay to ban cow slaughter according to peoples' sentiments/ food habits in the region.
But I have to make another point. Thse days, buffalo milk is used more and hardly anyone consumes cow milk. There is no use of oxen in ploughing as tractors have replaced them. There is neither any use of cows nor we can slaughter them for food obviously owingto religious sentiments. How can cows live in human society! There appears only one alternative. These be declared protected wild animal and removed from the category of domestic animals in the states where cow slaughter is banned. Send them to forests for living as free wild animals.
Right sir it is best one solution of this problem.
10 years ago
anil replied to the topic Can there be a permanent solution to Cow Slaughter .
suni51 wrote:
I just posted a comment on a Facebook post that said- Pork ban is ban in 56 Islamic countries so why make so much hue and cry on cow slaughter in India (the post has objectionable language in my humble opinion so I will not use the exact words). The post said it was a question from Amitabh Bachchan- I posted Why pork slaughter is banned in 56 countries?
Our politicians will reply for "Why pork slaughter is banned in 56 countries", It is their internal matter.
10 years ago
anil replied to the topic Do you plan for your financial requiremrnts of your child ?.
rambabu wrote:
anil wrote:
usha manohar wrote:
In many countries they have the facility of saving towards children's education and this sum gets a tax rebate and also 50% contribution from the government , which gets added to the education fund.I wish we had such a measure which ensures steady saving from the parents towards their childrens' future ..
In our country fees of higher education is exempt from tax, we can claim it. Like it interest which we are paying on education loan is also exempt from tax.
Now many insurance companies are coming up with a plethora of tax benefits. When I took policies on health policies for my entire family these tax exemptions were not there. Even if they were there they were not as attractive as now. But, because i gave importance to health I did not bother about exemptions. At that time I took Children's growth fund for my children which helped me a lot when my children grew up.
Saving with bank is not bad option. On fix deposite for 5 years we can clam tax exemption. Insurance it better, it give security cover with tax exemption.
10 years ago
anil replied to the topic Is it really a beginning of women empowerment?.
Yes it be beginning. Here at community marriage function, organizer make rules of 8th fera. It is for saving female baby. But it is not enough, more efforts required.
10 years ago
anil replied to the topic Pride of breaking rules .
rambabu wrote:
Well said. Discipline is real only when it is shown in all spheres of life. Else, it is selective discipline. This is not only dangerous but also undesirable..Yes, invariably we see disorder in Ration shop queues and Bus stops. And in this respect Pilgrimages too are not spared. In Tirupati, it is a very common scene, Devotees jumping queue creating stampedes.
Not in Tirpati, condition is same all most at every Piligrimages.
10 years ago
Shampa Sadhya replied to the topic Pride of breaking rules .
It is always easy to raise a finger against anyone but a big trouble to find out our own demerits. I feel, breaking rule has become a fashion and it is in practice everywhere but it may differ in number.
10 years ago
Shampa Sadhya created new topic Is it really a beginning of women empowerment?.
This Durga Puja, many pandals have kept the theme of women empowerment. Is this step really worth to change the age old mindset or will remain just a theme? Even this year theme of transgender was given importance at one of the pandals in Kolkata. Sharing a few links:
http://indianexpress.com/article/lifestyle/celebrating-the-power-of-women/
http://blogs.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/toi-editorials/triumph-of-good-diversity-of-durga-pujas-shows-that-liberalism-is-also-thriving-in-india/
10 years ago
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani liked a reply to the topic Is it really a beginning of women empowerment?.
10 years ago
Shampa Sadhya replied to the topic Is it really a beginning of women empowerment?.
I am not convinced by this method. It sounds quite heavy that the committee has given a good thought about theme and it is so conscious about the social issues that it's trying to remove the bad practice. This cannot be the ultimate way but every day such a theme has to be promoted and observed upon. Then only some changes can take place.
10 years ago
anil replied to the topic Can there be a permanent solution to Cow Slaughter .
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani wrote:
anil wrote:
usha manohar wrote:
suni51 wrote:
usha manohar wrote:
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani wrote:
The suggestion for import of beef does not appear appropriate. India is major beef exporter. However this is now cow meat. Buffalo meat goes in name of beef. Banning cow slaughter and importing beef is self contradictory. Ban to be effective is to be on cow slaughter as well as on beef eating. But such ban can be only according to food habits and culture prevailing in he region.
In fact importing beef makes a lot of sense to me because f the following reasons
1, It puts an end to clashes that arise out d cow slaughter , the law for which is not at all clear cut
2, In India cows are slaughtered fr consumption after they are past their prime and are f no use fr those who sell milk or use them in cultivation purpose, which makes the meat rubbery and of poor quality.
3,Many beef eaters complain about the poor quality of beef available for local use whereas in other countries the quality is far better , so those who want to eat beef , may not be in a very large number in our country get a better choice sans the continuous friction that we have now because of the cow slaughter.
With due regards there are at least 40 crore people who eat beef and when I say beef that includes cow as well. You may find it exaggerated but that is the hard truth. So we can cater to them using our own organised sector which can take care of the demand and at the same time keeping the illegal butchery out of the picture.
If we go into history we have had cattle slaughter ban since the medieval times and even during Mughal times .When British came here they started the first slaughter house in Calcutta . However there is reference of a large number of Hindus , even Brahmins and some of the Hindu Gods eating beef in the Vedas. Coming to the present times , as many as 24 states have banned slaughter of cows because of the changed perceptions. The number f beef eaters is abut 80 millions which is a small number compared to the total population
http://www.livemint.com/Politics/RhPVLUFmclIDWRIiSoTC7N/Who-are-the-beef-eaters-in-India.html
It is not believable that gods eat beef. this rubbish statement is given my one political leader. In which Veda it is written that God eats beef. If we Indian wants to live with peace here, never listen what leaders are saying. Ignore these.
I agree. The current opinion and belief is more relevant. We need not bother about the food habits in ancient India. Even if the Aryans ate beef, that is not relevant today. We have to make law and abide by that according to current conditions. So it is okay to ban cow slaughter according to peoples' sentiments/ food habits in the region.
But I have to make another point. Thse days, buffalo milk is used more and hardly anyone consumes cow milk. There is no use of oxen in ploughing as tractors have replaced them. There is neither any use of cows nor we can slaughter them for food obviously owingto religious sentiments. How can cows live in human society! There appears only one alternative. These be declared protected wild animal and removed from the category of domestic animals in the states where cow slaughter is banned. Send them to forests for living as free wild animals.
Right sir it is best one solution of this problem.
10 years ago
anil replied to the topic Can there be a permanent solution to Cow Slaughter .
suni51 wrote:
I just posted a comment on a Facebook post that said- Pork ban is ban in 56 Islamic countries so why make so much hue and cry on cow slaughter in India (the post has objectionable language in my humble opinion so I will not use the exact words). The post said it was a question from Amitabh Bachchan- I posted Why pork slaughter is banned in 56 countries?
Our politicians will reply for "Why pork slaughter is banned in 56 countries", It is their internal matter.
10 years ago
anil replied to the topic Do you plan for your financial requiremrnts of your child ?.
rambabu wrote:
anil wrote:
usha manohar wrote:
In many countries they have the facility of saving towards children's education and this sum gets a tax rebate and also 50% contribution from the government , which gets added to the education fund.I wish we had such a measure which ensures steady saving from the parents towards their childrens' future ..
In our country fees of higher education is exempt from tax, we can claim it. Like it interest which we are paying on education loan is also exempt from tax.
Now many insurance companies are coming up with a plethora of tax benefits. When I took policies on health policies for my entire family these tax exemptions were not there. Even if they were there they were not as attractive as now. But, because i gave importance to health I did not bother about exemptions. At that time I took Children's growth fund for my children which helped me a lot when my children grew up.
Saving with bank is not bad option. On fix deposite for 5 years we can clam tax exemption. Insurance it better, it give security cover with tax exemption.
10 years ago
anil replied to the topic Is it really a beginning of women empowerment?.
Yes it be beginning. Here at community marriage function, organizer make rules of 8th fera. It is for saving female baby. But it is not enough, more efforts required.
10 years ago
anil replied to the topic Pride of breaking rules .
rambabu wrote:
Well said. Discipline is real only when it is shown in all spheres of life. Else, it is selective discipline. This is not only dangerous but also undesirable..Yes, invariably we see disorder in Ration shop queues and Bus stops. And in this respect Pilgrimages too are not spared. In Tirupati, it is a very common scene, Devotees jumping queue creating stampedes.
Not in Tirpati, condition is same all most at every Piligrimages.
10 years ago
Shampa Sadhya replied to the topic Pride of breaking rules .
It is always easy to raise a finger against anyone but a big trouble to find out our own demerits. I feel, breaking rule has become a fashion and it is in practice everywhere but it may differ in number.
10 years ago
Shampa Sadhya created new topic Is it really a beginning of women empowerment?.
This Durga Puja, many pandals have kept the theme of women empowerment. Is this step really worth to change the age old mindset or will remain just a theme? Even this year theme of transgender was given importance at one of the pandals in Kolkata. Sharing a few links:
http://indianexpress.com/article/lifestyle/celebrating-the-power-of-women/
http://blogs.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/toi-editorials/triumph-of-good-diversity-of-durga-pujas-shows-that-liberalism-is-also-thriving-in-india/
10 years ago