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rambabu replied to the topic Man Made Calamity - Threatens millions of people ...
anil wrote:
rambabu wrote:
Man in his mad rush for development started raping the nature and environment since a long. When the environment is abused in a such a high magnitude, Environment shows its wrath in the form Cyclones, Earthquakes and Tsunamis and wreaks havoc on the mankind. The only panacea is to bow down before Mother nature and appease its wrath.
Yes it is in our hand to save environment. Grow plants less use appliances which release green house gases. Use A.C. less much as possible. use coolers.
Very true. Each of us must do our bit to save the environment. Only then this Earth will become safe place to live in.
10 years ago
rambabu replied to the topic Koh-i-noor Diamond - Legal Challenge against Queen Elizabeth.
anil wrote:
rambabu wrote:
suni51 wrote:
rambabu wrote:
Yes David De' Souza from Indian Leisure group took the campaign and says that the 105 carat diamond from India was stolen from India and demands that the British Government should return it back.
As much I know it was not stolen but was gifted to Queen during English rule.
There are different versions. The jewel was given to the reigning queen of the time by the last ruler of the Sikhs Duleep Singh after the British annexed Punjab. Then over the years, it was passed on to the Britishers and landed finally in the Britain. But the present Group says that the British had stolen the Diamond according to the article link
It is not right that British had stolen this diamond. It is gifted by Dalip Singh to British India company and there are British Indian company gift it to Queen. Maharaja Dalip also gave his state to British. After changing religion Dalip singh became a Christian. He married with British girl and setteled in Britain. There is noting wrong in trying to get it back, but it very hard job. Good Luck
A very good historic details. Yes, as you said Kohinoor should be brought back to India. As it belongs to this country However I liked GulshanJi's suggestion also to give it a Heritage status and should be kept at UN general Headquarters
10 years ago
anil replied to the topic Saffronizing education .
rambabu wrote:
Bhagavad Geeta, contrary to the belief of many is not a religious text, Its preachings are relevant even today
Geeta emphasizes to perform our obligatory duties.One is expected to be responsible to his family first. It also professes to earn knowledge that is the Path of Knowledge. In my view, every aspect of Geeta is relevant and useful to the society.
In fact many state governments included Bhagavad Geeta in their respective curricula, including Business schools.
http://www.braingainmag.com/business-schools-are-embracing-indian-philosophy.htm
If we read Geeta carefully we know that it is mother of principal of all religions. All religion believe in one God and in Geeta Lord Krishna said that noting is in this universe one I am. I am never take birth, I never died.
10 years ago
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10 years ago
anil replied to the topic Man Made Calamity - Threatens millions of people ...
rambabu wrote:
Man in his mad rush for development started raping the nature and environment since a long. When the environment is abused in a such a high magnitude, Environment shows its wrath in the form Cyclones, Earthquakes and Tsunamis and wreaks havoc on the mankind. The only panacea is to bow down before Mother nature and appease its wrath.
Yes it is in our hand to save environment. Grow plants less use appliances which release green house gases. Use A.C. less much as possible. use coolers.
10 years ago
anil replied to the topic An easy way to avoid Obesity.
rambabu wrote:
Of course the study is just data analysis. But the link says, a study was conducted by Clinicians and Public practitioners and the paper was written by Karem Shuval, director of physical activity Research for the American Cancer Society and his colleagues.
However, one can give it a try.
Yes I also read it if some stand up 6 hours in a day, it is helpful in reducing weight. Standing posture is it self a exercise, it is also helpful in curing spine problems.
10 years ago
anil replied to the topic Koh-i-noor Diamond - Legal Challenge against Queen Elizabeth.
rambabu wrote:
suni51 wrote:
rambabu wrote:
Yes David De' Souza from Indian Leisure group took the campaign and says that the 105 carat diamond from India was stolen from India and demands that the British Government should return it back.
As much I know it was not stolen but was gifted to Queen during English rule.
There are different versions. The jewel was given to the reigning queen of the time by the last ruler of the Sikhs Duleep Singh after the British annexed Punjab. Then over the years, it was passed on to the Britishers and landed finally in the Britain. But the present Group says that the British had stolen the Diamond according to the article link
It is not right that British had stolen this diamond. It is gifted by Dalip Singh to British India company and there are British Indian company gift it to Queen. Maharaja Dalip also gave his state to British. After changing religion Dalip singh became a Christian. He married with British girl and setteled in Britain. There is noting wrong in trying to get it back, but it very hard job. Good Luck
10 years ago
rambabu liked a reply to the topic Koh-i-noor Diamond - Legal Challenge against Queen Elizabeth.
10 years ago
rambabu replied to the topic Koh-i-noor Diamond - Legal Challenge against Queen Elizabeth.
A good suggestion indeed. The Best place would be the the UN head quarters, where it be provided with all necessary maintenance besides Safety measures. It would be the most visited place.
10 years ago
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani replied to the topic Koh-i-noor Diamond - Legal Challenge against Queen Elizabeth.
I sugges that Kohinoor diamond be declared as international heritage and place inUnited Narions Headquarters. Maharaja Ranjit singh was last ruler who possessed the diamond before transferto England. Lahore the capital of Mahara Ranjit singh is now in Pakistan who can also claim the diamond.
10 years ago
rambabu replied to the topic Koh-i-noor Diamond - Legal Challenge against Queen Elizabeth.
I'm referring the article link. The group of people who are interested to carry on investigation to get back the Kohinoor back to India revealed in the link.
10 years ago
Kalyani Nandurkar replied to the topic Koh-i-noor Diamond - Legal Challenge against Queen Elizabeth.
Lopamudra wrote:
It was not gifted. Maharaja Ranjit Singh had built the huge sikh empire and the Britishers were quite wary of him, but after his death ,the empire started collapsing. His sons were incompetent . They lost the first Anglo-Sikh war. His older sons were removed off power and then died( I think). Duleep Singh was his youngest son and was ruling at that time. He was a very young boy and was being advised by his mother. Then, the Lahore treaty was signed .The Britishers took advantage of this win, and showed that The koh i noor,which was with Ranjit Singh's family, was gifted to the Britishers but actually they took it because they won the Anglo Sikh war. Actually it was willed by Maharaja Ranjit Singh to be donated to a temple(don't know which). Those interested in History of that period do read'The Return of a King' by William Dalrymple..Engrossing!!
According to what little I have read about history of that particular period, yours come closest to the truth and therefore I too agree that the Queen should be challenged and brought back. However, I think that unless and until the group who is campaigning for the diamond to be brought back have thought thoroughly about preserving and protecting the gem . Unless and until they arfe not ready to do so or have no provisions for the same, let it remain with the British Royalty for it will be protected there much better than in India.
Reason I am saying so is a recent heartwrenching incident that occurred in Maharashtra a couple of years ago. In 1998, a copper box was found in a farm while ploughing in a small seaside town of Diveagar, Raigad district, Konkan. The box was found to contain a 1.5 kilogram pure gold statue of Ganesh inscribed with Sanskrit script which upon study, revealed it to date back to 10th century. A temple was built to house the Ganesha and it lead to increase in tourism and prosperity of the village. However, as always, not much attention was paid to security and about two years ago, the idol was stolen. After an intensive manhunt, the culprits were identified and apprehended, although by the time they were caught, they had managed to sell the idol and the buyers had melted it already. This is the state of totally sad affairs relating to preservation and protection of artefacts that narrate tales of our ancient history! So unless anyone can guarantee such things cannot happen, only then the gem should be brought back.
10 years ago
rambabu replied to the topic An easy way to avoid Obesity.
Of course the study is just data analysis. But the link says, a study was conducted by Clinicians and Public practitioners and the paper was written by Karem Shuval, director of physical activity Research for the American Cancer Society and his colleagues.
However, one can give it a try.
10 years ago
Kalyani Nandurkar liked a reply to the topic Koh-i-noor Diamond - Legal Challenge against Queen Elizabeth.
10 years ago
Kalyani Nandurkar said thank you to Lopamudra for his/her reply to the topic Koh-i-noor Diamond - Legal Challenge against Queen Elizabeth.
It should have been done long back. The Koh-i-noor was mined in India and changed hands within India based on whoever was in power. It reached the Mughals followed by the Sultan of Afganistan Shah Shuja and ultimately Maharaja Ranjit Singh who willed it to a temple but the Britishers did not follow the will and took it conveniently because they were ruling the country at that time. It should very much be demanded back.
10 years ago
Lopamudra replied to the topic Koh-i-noor Diamond - Legal Challenge against Queen Elizabeth.
It was not gifted. Maharaja Ranjit Singh had built the huge sikh empire and the Britishers were quite wary of him, but after death ,his empire started collapsing. His sons were incompetent and the empire started collapsing under the Britishers. They lost the first Anglo-Sikh war. His older sons were removed off power and then died( I think). Duleep Singh was his youngest son and was ruling at that time. He was a very young boy and was being advised by his mother. Then, the Lahore treaty was signed .The Britishers took advantage of this win, and showed that The koh i noor,which was with Ranjit Singh's family, was gifted to the Britishers. Actually it was willed by Maharaja Ranjit Singh to be donated to a temple(don't know which). Those interested in History of that period do read'The Return of a King' by William Dalrymple..Engrossing!!
10 years ago
rambabu liked a reply to the topic Koh-i-noor Diamond - Legal Challenge against Queen Elizabeth.
10 years ago
rambabu replied to the topic Man Made Calamity - Threatens millions of people ...
anil wrote:
rambabu wrote:
Man in his mad rush for development started raping the nature and environment since a long. When the environment is abused in a such a high magnitude, Environment shows its wrath in the form Cyclones, Earthquakes and Tsunamis and wreaks havoc on the mankind. The only panacea is to bow down before Mother nature and appease its wrath.
Yes it is in our hand to save environment. Grow plants less use appliances which release green house gases. Use A.C. less much as possible. use coolers.
Very true. Each of us must do our bit to save the environment. Only then this Earth will become safe place to live in.
10 years ago
rambabu replied to the topic Koh-i-noor Diamond - Legal Challenge against Queen Elizabeth.
anil wrote:
rambabu wrote:
suni51 wrote:
rambabu wrote:
Yes David De' Souza from Indian Leisure group took the campaign and says that the 105 carat diamond from India was stolen from India and demands that the British Government should return it back.
As much I know it was not stolen but was gifted to Queen during English rule.
There are different versions. The jewel was given to the reigning queen of the time by the last ruler of the Sikhs Duleep Singh after the British annexed Punjab. Then over the years, it was passed on to the Britishers and landed finally in the Britain. But the present Group says that the British had stolen the Diamond according to the article link
It is not right that British had stolen this diamond. It is gifted by Dalip Singh to British India company and there are British Indian company gift it to Queen. Maharaja Dalip also gave his state to British. After changing religion Dalip singh became a Christian. He married with British girl and setteled in Britain. There is noting wrong in trying to get it back, but it very hard job. Good Luck
A very good historic details. Yes, as you said Kohinoor should be brought back to India. As it belongs to this country However I liked GulshanJi's suggestion also to give it a Heritage status and should be kept at UN general Headquarters
10 years ago
anil replied to the topic Saffronizing education .
rambabu wrote:
Bhagavad Geeta, contrary to the belief of many is not a religious text, Its preachings are relevant even today
Geeta emphasizes to perform our obligatory duties.One is expected to be responsible to his family first. It also professes to earn knowledge that is the Path of Knowledge. In my view, every aspect of Geeta is relevant and useful to the society.
In fact many state governments included Bhagavad Geeta in their respective curricula, including Business schools.
http://www.braingainmag.com/business-schools-are-embracing-indian-philosophy.htm
If we read Geeta carefully we know that it is mother of principal of all religions. All religion believe in one God and in Geeta Lord Krishna said that noting is in this universe one I am. I am never take birth, I never died.
10 years ago
rambabu liked a reply to the topic Koh-i-noor Diamond - Legal Challenge against Queen Elizabeth.
10 years ago
anil replied to the topic Man Made Calamity - Threatens millions of people ...
rambabu wrote:
Man in his mad rush for development started raping the nature and environment since a long. When the environment is abused in a such a high magnitude, Environment shows its wrath in the form Cyclones, Earthquakes and Tsunamis and wreaks havoc on the mankind. The only panacea is to bow down before Mother nature and appease its wrath.
Yes it is in our hand to save environment. Grow plants less use appliances which release green house gases. Use A.C. less much as possible. use coolers.
10 years ago
anil replied to the topic An easy way to avoid Obesity.
rambabu wrote:
Of course the study is just data analysis. But the link says, a study was conducted by Clinicians and Public practitioners and the paper was written by Karem Shuval, director of physical activity Research for the American Cancer Society and his colleagues.
However, one can give it a try.
Yes I also read it if some stand up 6 hours in a day, it is helpful in reducing weight. Standing posture is it self a exercise, it is also helpful in curing spine problems.
10 years ago
anil replied to the topic Koh-i-noor Diamond - Legal Challenge against Queen Elizabeth.
rambabu wrote:
suni51 wrote:
rambabu wrote:
Yes David De' Souza from Indian Leisure group took the campaign and says that the 105 carat diamond from India was stolen from India and demands that the British Government should return it back.
As much I know it was not stolen but was gifted to Queen during English rule.
There are different versions. The jewel was given to the reigning queen of the time by the last ruler of the Sikhs Duleep Singh after the British annexed Punjab. Then over the years, it was passed on to the Britishers and landed finally in the Britain. But the present Group says that the British had stolen the Diamond according to the article link
It is not right that British had stolen this diamond. It is gifted by Dalip Singh to British India company and there are British Indian company gift it to Queen. Maharaja Dalip also gave his state to British. After changing religion Dalip singh became a Christian. He married with British girl and setteled in Britain. There is noting wrong in trying to get it back, but it very hard job. Good Luck
10 years ago
rambabu liked a reply to the topic Koh-i-noor Diamond - Legal Challenge against Queen Elizabeth.
10 years ago
rambabu replied to the topic Koh-i-noor Diamond - Legal Challenge against Queen Elizabeth.
A good suggestion indeed. The Best place would be the the UN head quarters, where it be provided with all necessary maintenance besides Safety measures. It would be the most visited place.
10 years ago
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani replied to the topic Koh-i-noor Diamond - Legal Challenge against Queen Elizabeth.
I sugges that Kohinoor diamond be declared as international heritage and place inUnited Narions Headquarters. Maharaja Ranjit singh was last ruler who possessed the diamond before transferto England. Lahore the capital of Mahara Ranjit singh is now in Pakistan who can also claim the diamond.
10 years ago
rambabu replied to the topic Koh-i-noor Diamond - Legal Challenge against Queen Elizabeth.
I'm referring the article link. The group of people who are interested to carry on investigation to get back the Kohinoor back to India revealed in the link.
10 years ago
Kalyani Nandurkar replied to the topic Koh-i-noor Diamond - Legal Challenge against Queen Elizabeth.
Lopamudra wrote:
It was not gifted. Maharaja Ranjit Singh had built the huge sikh empire and the Britishers were quite wary of him, but after his death ,the empire started collapsing. His sons were incompetent . They lost the first Anglo-Sikh war. His older sons were removed off power and then died( I think). Duleep Singh was his youngest son and was ruling at that time. He was a very young boy and was being advised by his mother. Then, the Lahore treaty was signed .The Britishers took advantage of this win, and showed that The koh i noor,which was with Ranjit Singh's family, was gifted to the Britishers but actually they took it because they won the Anglo Sikh war. Actually it was willed by Maharaja Ranjit Singh to be donated to a temple(don't know which). Those interested in History of that period do read'The Return of a King' by William Dalrymple..Engrossing!!
According to what little I have read about history of that particular period, yours come closest to the truth and therefore I too agree that the Queen should be challenged and brought back. However, I think that unless and until the group who is campaigning for the diamond to be brought back have thought thoroughly about preserving and protecting the gem . Unless and until they arfe not ready to do so or have no provisions for the same, let it remain with the British Royalty for it will be protected there much better than in India.
Reason I am saying so is a recent heartwrenching incident that occurred in Maharashtra a couple of years ago. In 1998, a copper box was found in a farm while ploughing in a small seaside town of Diveagar, Raigad district, Konkan. The box was found to contain a 1.5 kilogram pure gold statue of Ganesh inscribed with Sanskrit script which upon study, revealed it to date back to 10th century. A temple was built to house the Ganesha and it lead to increase in tourism and prosperity of the village. However, as always, not much attention was paid to security and about two years ago, the idol was stolen. After an intensive manhunt, the culprits were identified and apprehended, although by the time they were caught, they had managed to sell the idol and the buyers had melted it already. This is the state of totally sad affairs relating to preservation and protection of artefacts that narrate tales of our ancient history! So unless anyone can guarantee such things cannot happen, only then the gem should be brought back.
10 years ago
rambabu replied to the topic An easy way to avoid Obesity.
Of course the study is just data analysis. But the link says, a study was conducted by Clinicians and Public practitioners and the paper was written by Karem Shuval, director of physical activity Research for the American Cancer Society and his colleagues.
However, one can give it a try.
10 years ago
Kalyani Nandurkar liked a reply to the topic Koh-i-noor Diamond - Legal Challenge against Queen Elizabeth.
10 years ago
Kalyani Nandurkar said thank you to Lopamudra for his/her reply to the topic Koh-i-noor Diamond - Legal Challenge against Queen Elizabeth.
It should have been done long back. The Koh-i-noor was mined in India and changed hands within India based on whoever was in power. It reached the Mughals followed by the Sultan of Afganistan Shah Shuja and ultimately Maharaja Ranjit Singh who willed it to a temple but the Britishers did not follow the will and took it conveniently because they were ruling the country at that time. It should very much be demanded back.
10 years ago
Lopamudra replied to the topic Koh-i-noor Diamond - Legal Challenge against Queen Elizabeth.
It was not gifted. Maharaja Ranjit Singh had built the huge sikh empire and the Britishers were quite wary of him, but after death ,his empire started collapsing. His sons were incompetent and the empire started collapsing under the Britishers. They lost the first Anglo-Sikh war. His older sons were removed off power and then died( I think). Duleep Singh was his youngest son and was ruling at that time. He was a very young boy and was being advised by his mother. Then, the Lahore treaty was signed .The Britishers took advantage of this win, and showed that The koh i noor,which was with Ranjit Singh's family, was gifted to the Britishers. Actually it was willed by Maharaja Ranjit Singh to be donated to a temple(don't know which). Those interested in History of that period do read'The Return of a King' by William Dalrymple..Engrossing!!
10 years ago
rambabu liked a reply to the topic Koh-i-noor Diamond - Legal Challenge against Queen Elizabeth.
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