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anil replied to the topic celebrating Tipu sultan Birth day .
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani wrote:
vijay wrote:
Kalyani Nandurkar wrote:
vijay wrote:
What great choice of histories we have to chose from : Real history, British history,Congress history, BJP history, RSS history, Leftist history, Muslim history, Regional history, Local history, Perceived history, Communal history and so on. Rarely many of us are on the same page of history.
Perhaps you could enlighten us with some real history!
After knowing which way the historical winds are blowing these days I dare not risk enlightening anyone but myself.
I am also not a student of history. So it will be inappropriate to say anything authoritatively. However, it is undisputed that Tipu sultan fought against British and was killed inaction. So he is early freedom fighter. No ruler can satisfy all people. There can be some sections/ community hostile to Tipu sultan. It also transpires that Maratha and some other Hindu kings sided with British against Tipu sultan. Apparently, for them it was more important to fight Tipu sultan rather than British. Are those who supported British patriot or traitor. It is also learnt that still there are many temples in the palace/ fort of Tipu sultan. so it appears that the allegation of destroying temples is baseless. It is also seen that Tipu sultan annoyed Hindu Brahmans and upper castes who did not allow low caste Hindu women to wear bra or blouse. They were so lecherous that they considered it their right to watch nude breasts/ nipples of lower caste women. Tipu sultan interfered so that the low caste women could live with dignity and wear blouse. This practice of low caste women moving topless was also in Travancore Kerala. This was stopped by British government. These facts have been reported by some friends on Facebook with authentic images and complete details.
However it appears that the state government has bot dealt with the law and order issue properly.
Celebration of birthday is not issue of common peoples.It is raised by political parties. It is celebrating first time. Why congress is celebrating it and if they are celebrating why BJP opposing it. It in enough that Tipu Sultan was Indian and he fought with British. Some chiller political leaders have not any job they always in search of some contraversy, it keep them busy.
9 years ago
anil replied to the topic smartphone or desk top .
Desktop, Laptop and now smart phone. In future we will see another one. Development of technology never stop. My 1st computer was desk top now I am using laptop. I have wi-fi so I have not problem of connecting it with wire. Laptop is better than desktop. If some like desktop they can use it laptop as desktop, attached keybord and mouse in it.
9 years ago
anil replied to the topic Saffronizing education .
Lopamudra wrote:
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani wrote:
Lopamudra wrote:
First of all one needs be clear about what extinct means.It means wiped out or defunct. Sanskrit is not commonly spoken or used as a medium of instruction in colleges or universities or even used in offices but how does it make the language extinct ? If a language has vast treasury of important information which one needs to refer to in various fields, most common of which is Ayurveda, then it is very much in use and can not be dismissed as dead. The alkaloids derived from those medicinal plants mentioned in the vedas are used in various modern day allopathic medicines as well, in addition to ayurvedic and homeopathic medicines. With increasing chronic aliments of modern day, various medical practitioners are referring to those scriptures. And what about vedic sciences ? Are they too lifeless ? If not, how does one make use of them without the use of Sanskrit ?
I wonder if even the Ayurvedic doctors know or use Sanskrit. I also wonder whether medium of instruction for Ayurveda is Sanskrit. No doubt Sanskrit is rich language but very few people know this and hardly anyone uses. Hence this is extinct beyond doubt.
If the Ayurvedic doctors don't use Sanskrit, how do they decipher the text ?
Here's a link to the syllabus for BAMS ( Bachelor of Aryurvedic Medicine and Surgery) It does include Sanskrit and the age old Charaka Samhita
https://targetstudy.com/courses/bams.html
Sanskrit student can join BAMS. It is not compulsory that a student of medical ground can join BAMS. In BAMS knowledge of Sanskrit is compulsory. In 1st year BAMS Sanskrit is a subject.
9 years ago
Agreed. What I meant was that people of the elderly age group are much familiar with desktops and changing over to smartphone is a matter of adjustment which many find difficult. I myself took to smartphone after a fairly long time as I was comfortable with desktop/laptops. But yes there are many in this age group who are smartphone savy like you are. Best wishes.
9 years ago
suni51 replied to the topic smartphone or desk top .
The story of internet in India is only 15 years or so old so most of us have the same knowledge about it. Fortunately I was working with telecommunication sector when the technological changes took place in India. I remember the time when I used to connect @2 seconds for Rs 1.20 + the internet time that I used to purchase from Satyam. Now, I have three personal internet connections (one broadband and two cellular)and it costs me almost nothing if I compare it with 1998-2001 period.
9 years ago
Lopamudra replied to the topic Saffronizing education .
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani wrote:
Lopamudra wrote:
First of all one needs be clear about what extinct means.It means wiped out or defunct. Sanskrit is not commonly spoken or used as a medium of instruction in colleges or universities or even used in offices but how does it make the language extinct ? If a language has vast treasury of important information which one needs to refer to in various fields, most common of which is Ayurveda, then it is very much in use and can not be dismissed as dead. The alkaloids derived from those medicinal plants mentioned in the vedas are used in various modern day allopathic medicines as well, in addition to ayurvedic and homeopathic medicines. With increasing chronic aliments of modern day, various medical practitioners are referring to those scriptures. And what about vedic sciences ? Are they too lifeless ? If not, how does one make use of them without the use of Sanskrit ?
I wonder if even the Ayurvedic doctors know or use Sanskrit. I also wonder whether medium of instruction for Ayurveda is Sanskrit. No doubt Sanskrit is rich language but very few people know this and hardly anyone uses. Hence this is extinct beyond doubt.
If the Ayurvedic doctors don't use Sanskrit, how do they decipher the text ?
Here's a link of the syllabus for BAMS ( Bachelor of Aryurvedic Medicine and Surgery) It does include Sanskrit and the age old Charaka Samhita
https://targetstudy.com/courses/bams.html
9 years ago
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani replied to the topic Saffronizing education .
Lopamudra wrote:
First of all one needs be clear about what extinct means.It means wiped out or defunct. Sanskrit is not commonly spoken or used as a medium of instruction in colleges or universities or even used in offices but how does it make the language extinct ? If a language has vast treasury of important information which one needs to refer to in various fields, most common of which is Ayurveda, then it is very much in use and can not be dismissed as dead. The alkaloids derived from those medicinal plants mentioned in the vedas are used in various modern day allopathic medicines as well, in addition to ayurvedic and homeopathic medicines. With increasing chronic aliments of modern day, various medical practitioners are referring to those scriptures. And what about vedic sciences ? Are they too lifeless ? If not, how does one make use of them without the use of Sanskrit ?
I wonder if even the Ayurvedic doctors know or use Sanskrit. I also wonder whether medium of instruction for Ayurveda is Sanskrit. No doubt Sanskrit is rich language but very few people know this and hardly anyone uses. Hence this is extinct beyond doubt.
9 years ago
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani replied to the topic smartphone or desk top .
vijay wrote:
Agreed. What I meant was that people of the elderly age group are much familiar with desktops and changing over to smartphone is a matter of adjustment which many find difficult. I myself took to smartphone after a fairly long time as I was comfortable with desktop/laptops. But yes there are many in this age group who are smartphone savy like you are. Best wishes.
I feel that apart from age factor, issue is of nature of job. If somebody can use internet on desk top, he can use other gadgets as well. Personally, I have desk top at my residence as well as office. I don't have to use computer on the way to office half an hour each way. Hence I use only desk top at office and home. But for those travelling for hours and visiting many places, lap top and smartphone is must.
9 years ago
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani said thank you to vijay for his/her reply to the topic smartphone or desk top .
Those who have graduated from desktop to laptop to smartphone will find desktop to be better esp, for users who are say more than 55 to 60 years and above in age. However the future belongs to smartphones. Salesof desktop and laptops are falling every year appreciably.
9 years ago
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani replied to the topic celebrating Tipu sultan Birth day .
vijay wrote:
Kalyani Nandurkar wrote:
vijay wrote:
What great choice of histories we have to chose from : Real history, British history,Congress history, BJP history, RSS history, Leftist history, Muslim history, Regional history, Local history, Perceived history, Communal history and so on. Rarely many of us are on the same page of history.
Perhaps you could enlighten us with some real history!
After knowing which way the historical winds are blowing these days I dare not risk enlightening anyone but myself.
I am also not a student of history. So it will be inappropriate to say anything authoritatively. However, it is undisputed that Tipu sultan fought against British and was killed inaction. So he is early freedom fighter. No ruler can satisfy all people. There can be some sections/ community hostile to Tipu sultan. It also transpires that Maratha and some other Hindu kings sided with British against Tipu sultan. Apparently, for them it was more important to fight Tipu sultan rather than British. Are those who supported British patriot or traitor. It is also learnt that still there are many temples in the palace/ fort of Tipu sultan. so it appears that the allegation of destroying temples is baseless. It is also seen that Tipu sultan annoyed Hindu Brahmans and upper castes who did not allow low caste Hindu women to wear bra or blouse. They were so lecherous that they considered it their right to watch nude breasts/ nipples of lower caste women. Tipu sultan interfered so that the low caste women could live with dignity and wear blouse. This practice of low caste women moving topless was also in Travancore Kerala. This was stopped by British government. These facts have been reported by some friends on Facebook with authentic images and complete details.
However it appears that the state government has bot dealt with the law and order issue properly.
9 years ago
vijay replied to the topic celebrating Tipu sultan Birth day .
Kalyani Nandurkar wrote:
vijay wrote:
What great choice of histories we have to chose from : Real history, British history,Congress history, BJP history, RSS history, Leftist history, Muslim history, Regional history, Local history, Perceived history, Communal history and so on. Rarely many of us are on the same page of history.
Perhaps you could enlighten us with some real history!
After knowing which way the historical winds are blowing these days I dare not risk enlightening anyone but myself.
9 years ago
vijay replied to the topic smartphone or desk top .
Agreed. What I meant was that people of the elderly age group are much familiar with desktops and changing over to smartphone is a matter of adjustment which many find difficult. I myself took to smartphone after a fairly long time as I was comfortable with desktop/laptops. But yes there are many in this age group who are smartphone savy like you are. Best wishes.
9 years ago
suni51 replied to the topic smartphone or desk top .
@ Vijai - I do not say no to your version but I do not feel any problem using any of the gadgets unless I am at a specific job which I must complete using any specific gadget.
9 years ago
vijay replied to the topic Prime Minister Modi in the UK - .
NRI's wanted to highlight India and its culture for whom? For TV channels. And why NRI's have to do it? They have left India and are no longer its citizens. What extra knowledge was obtained by these shows except hear the name again and again like a clockwork programming. Must say these shows are sure amusing and entertaining for the NRI's and also the RI's. That much one has to grant.
9 years ago
anil replied to the topic celebrating Tipu sultan Birth day .
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani wrote:
vijay wrote:
Kalyani Nandurkar wrote:
vijay wrote:
What great choice of histories we have to chose from : Real history, British history,Congress history, BJP history, RSS history, Leftist history, Muslim history, Regional history, Local history, Perceived history, Communal history and so on. Rarely many of us are on the same page of history.
Perhaps you could enlighten us with some real history!
After knowing which way the historical winds are blowing these days I dare not risk enlightening anyone but myself.
I am also not a student of history. So it will be inappropriate to say anything authoritatively. However, it is undisputed that Tipu sultan fought against British and was killed inaction. So he is early freedom fighter. No ruler can satisfy all people. There can be some sections/ community hostile to Tipu sultan. It also transpires that Maratha and some other Hindu kings sided with British against Tipu sultan. Apparently, for them it was more important to fight Tipu sultan rather than British. Are those who supported British patriot or traitor. It is also learnt that still there are many temples in the palace/ fort of Tipu sultan. so it appears that the allegation of destroying temples is baseless. It is also seen that Tipu sultan annoyed Hindu Brahmans and upper castes who did not allow low caste Hindu women to wear bra or blouse. They were so lecherous that they considered it their right to watch nude breasts/ nipples of lower caste women. Tipu sultan interfered so that the low caste women could live with dignity and wear blouse. This practice of low caste women moving topless was also in Travancore Kerala. This was stopped by British government. These facts have been reported by some friends on Facebook with authentic images and complete details.
However it appears that the state government has bot dealt with the law and order issue properly.
Celebration of birthday is not issue of common peoples.It is raised by political parties. It is celebrating first time. Why congress is celebrating it and if they are celebrating why BJP opposing it. It in enough that Tipu Sultan was Indian and he fought with British. Some chiller political leaders have not any job they always in search of some contraversy, it keep them busy.
9 years ago
anil replied to the topic smartphone or desk top .
Desktop, Laptop and now smart phone. In future we will see another one. Development of technology never stop. My 1st computer was desk top now I am using laptop. I have wi-fi so I have not problem of connecting it with wire. Laptop is better than desktop. If some like desktop they can use it laptop as desktop, attached keybord and mouse in it.
9 years ago
anil replied to the topic Saffronizing education .
Lopamudra wrote:
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani wrote:
Lopamudra wrote:
First of all one needs be clear about what extinct means.It means wiped out or defunct. Sanskrit is not commonly spoken or used as a medium of instruction in colleges or universities or even used in offices but how does it make the language extinct ? If a language has vast treasury of important information which one needs to refer to in various fields, most common of which is Ayurveda, then it is very much in use and can not be dismissed as dead. The alkaloids derived from those medicinal plants mentioned in the vedas are used in various modern day allopathic medicines as well, in addition to ayurvedic and homeopathic medicines. With increasing chronic aliments of modern day, various medical practitioners are referring to those scriptures. And what about vedic sciences ? Are they too lifeless ? If not, how does one make use of them without the use of Sanskrit ?
I wonder if even the Ayurvedic doctors know or use Sanskrit. I also wonder whether medium of instruction for Ayurveda is Sanskrit. No doubt Sanskrit is rich language but very few people know this and hardly anyone uses. Hence this is extinct beyond doubt.
If the Ayurvedic doctors don't use Sanskrit, how do they decipher the text ?
Here's a link to the syllabus for BAMS ( Bachelor of Aryurvedic Medicine and Surgery) It does include Sanskrit and the age old Charaka Samhita
https://targetstudy.com/courses/bams.html
Sanskrit student can join BAMS. It is not compulsory that a student of medical ground can join BAMS. In BAMS knowledge of Sanskrit is compulsory. In 1st year BAMS Sanskrit is a subject.
9 years ago
Agreed. What I meant was that people of the elderly age group are much familiar with desktops and changing over to smartphone is a matter of adjustment which many find difficult. I myself took to smartphone after a fairly long time as I was comfortable with desktop/laptops. But yes there are many in this age group who are smartphone savy like you are. Best wishes.
9 years ago
suni51 replied to the topic smartphone or desk top .
The story of internet in India is only 15 years or so old so most of us have the same knowledge about it. Fortunately I was working with telecommunication sector when the technological changes took place in India. I remember the time when I used to connect @2 seconds for Rs 1.20 + the internet time that I used to purchase from Satyam. Now, I have three personal internet connections (one broadband and two cellular)and it costs me almost nothing if I compare it with 1998-2001 period.
9 years ago
Lopamudra replied to the topic Saffronizing education .
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani wrote:
Lopamudra wrote:
First of all one needs be clear about what extinct means.It means wiped out or defunct. Sanskrit is not commonly spoken or used as a medium of instruction in colleges or universities or even used in offices but how does it make the language extinct ? If a language has vast treasury of important information which one needs to refer to in various fields, most common of which is Ayurveda, then it is very much in use and can not be dismissed as dead. The alkaloids derived from those medicinal plants mentioned in the vedas are used in various modern day allopathic medicines as well, in addition to ayurvedic and homeopathic medicines. With increasing chronic aliments of modern day, various medical practitioners are referring to those scriptures. And what about vedic sciences ? Are they too lifeless ? If not, how does one make use of them without the use of Sanskrit ?
I wonder if even the Ayurvedic doctors know or use Sanskrit. I also wonder whether medium of instruction for Ayurveda is Sanskrit. No doubt Sanskrit is rich language but very few people know this and hardly anyone uses. Hence this is extinct beyond doubt.
If the Ayurvedic doctors don't use Sanskrit, how do they decipher the text ?
Here's a link of the syllabus for BAMS ( Bachelor of Aryurvedic Medicine and Surgery) It does include Sanskrit and the age old Charaka Samhita
https://targetstudy.com/courses/bams.html
9 years ago
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani replied to the topic Saffronizing education .
Lopamudra wrote:
First of all one needs be clear about what extinct means.It means wiped out or defunct. Sanskrit is not commonly spoken or used as a medium of instruction in colleges or universities or even used in offices but how does it make the language extinct ? If a language has vast treasury of important information which one needs to refer to in various fields, most common of which is Ayurveda, then it is very much in use and can not be dismissed as dead. The alkaloids derived from those medicinal plants mentioned in the vedas are used in various modern day allopathic medicines as well, in addition to ayurvedic and homeopathic medicines. With increasing chronic aliments of modern day, various medical practitioners are referring to those scriptures. And what about vedic sciences ? Are they too lifeless ? If not, how does one make use of them without the use of Sanskrit ?
I wonder if even the Ayurvedic doctors know or use Sanskrit. I also wonder whether medium of instruction for Ayurveda is Sanskrit. No doubt Sanskrit is rich language but very few people know this and hardly anyone uses. Hence this is extinct beyond doubt.
9 years ago
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani replied to the topic smartphone or desk top .
vijay wrote:
Agreed. What I meant was that people of the elderly age group are much familiar with desktops and changing over to smartphone is a matter of adjustment which many find difficult. I myself took to smartphone after a fairly long time as I was comfortable with desktop/laptops. But yes there are many in this age group who are smartphone savy like you are. Best wishes.
I feel that apart from age factor, issue is of nature of job. If somebody can use internet on desk top, he can use other gadgets as well. Personally, I have desk top at my residence as well as office. I don't have to use computer on the way to office half an hour each way. Hence I use only desk top at office and home. But for those travelling for hours and visiting many places, lap top and smartphone is must.
9 years ago
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani said thank you to vijay for his/her reply to the topic smartphone or desk top .
Those who have graduated from desktop to laptop to smartphone will find desktop to be better esp, for users who are say more than 55 to 60 years and above in age. However the future belongs to smartphones. Salesof desktop and laptops are falling every year appreciably.
9 years ago
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani replied to the topic celebrating Tipu sultan Birth day .
vijay wrote:
Kalyani Nandurkar wrote:
vijay wrote:
What great choice of histories we have to chose from : Real history, British history,Congress history, BJP history, RSS history, Leftist history, Muslim history, Regional history, Local history, Perceived history, Communal history and so on. Rarely many of us are on the same page of history.
Perhaps you could enlighten us with some real history!
After knowing which way the historical winds are blowing these days I dare not risk enlightening anyone but myself.
I am also not a student of history. So it will be inappropriate to say anything authoritatively. However, it is undisputed that Tipu sultan fought against British and was killed inaction. So he is early freedom fighter. No ruler can satisfy all people. There can be some sections/ community hostile to Tipu sultan. It also transpires that Maratha and some other Hindu kings sided with British against Tipu sultan. Apparently, for them it was more important to fight Tipu sultan rather than British. Are those who supported British patriot or traitor. It is also learnt that still there are many temples in the palace/ fort of Tipu sultan. so it appears that the allegation of destroying temples is baseless. It is also seen that Tipu sultan annoyed Hindu Brahmans and upper castes who did not allow low caste Hindu women to wear bra or blouse. They were so lecherous that they considered it their right to watch nude breasts/ nipples of lower caste women. Tipu sultan interfered so that the low caste women could live with dignity and wear blouse. This practice of low caste women moving topless was also in Travancore Kerala. This was stopped by British government. These facts have been reported by some friends on Facebook with authentic images and complete details.
However it appears that the state government has bot dealt with the law and order issue properly.
9 years ago
vijay replied to the topic celebrating Tipu sultan Birth day .
Kalyani Nandurkar wrote:
vijay wrote:
What great choice of histories we have to chose from : Real history, British history,Congress history, BJP history, RSS history, Leftist history, Muslim history, Regional history, Local history, Perceived history, Communal history and so on. Rarely many of us are on the same page of history.
Perhaps you could enlighten us with some real history!
After knowing which way the historical winds are blowing these days I dare not risk enlightening anyone but myself.
9 years ago
vijay replied to the topic smartphone or desk top .
Agreed. What I meant was that people of the elderly age group are much familiar with desktops and changing over to smartphone is a matter of adjustment which many find difficult. I myself took to smartphone after a fairly long time as I was comfortable with desktop/laptops. But yes there are many in this age group who are smartphone savy like you are. Best wishes.
9 years ago
suni51 replied to the topic smartphone or desk top .
@ Vijai - I do not say no to your version but I do not feel any problem using any of the gadgets unless I am at a specific job which I must complete using any specific gadget.
9 years ago
vijay replied to the topic Prime Minister Modi in the UK - .
NRI's wanted to highlight India and its culture for whom? For TV channels. And why NRI's have to do it? They have left India and are no longer its citizens. What extra knowledge was obtained by these shows except hear the name again and again like a clockwork programming. Must say these shows are sure amusing and entertaining for the NRI's and also the RI's. That much one has to grant.
9 years ago