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Gulshan Kumar Ajmani replied to the topic Introduction of Flogging as a punishment for some offences where a simple jail term has no meaning.
vijay wrote:
It is a retrograde suggestion to introduce flogging. Next it will be chopping of hands!! Please let us not go back in time.
Flogging if administered under proper medical supervision is a good punishment. This does not make anybody suffer body injury for life. Chopping of hands is very different. This will make one handicapped for life.
9 years ago
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani replied to the topic Anti India slogan in JNU, Delhi.
There is no dispute about any one accused of some offence- small or big- getting arrested and punished according to law. But the issue becomes debatable when mad frenzy is created, law is taken in hand by mob including so called advocates and legal proceedings not allowed. This is what we witnessed in Delhi court when Kanhaiya of JNU was produced.
9 years ago
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9 years ago
Babu saroj replied to the topic A Letter of Divorce Threat is a Cruelty .
well i think if the wife uses the calm and silence way to express her feeling in front of her hubby and tell him about herself, that she had fallen in love with another man then i think, yeah there will be some fight and voice rises in between her and her husband but at last i think that her husband will accept her wife decision because after hearing this things from her wife nobody can do anything, at last he have to accept her wife decision because there is no way left for him.
9 years ago
Shampa Sadhya replied to the topic A Letter of Divorce Threat is a Cruelty .
anil wrote:
usha manohar wrote:
anil wrote:
Faith and trust is base of relation of Husband and wife. Wife write letter to her husband with this believe that it is matter between them and husband think about her problem. In this case husband used letter in court case, it is breach of trust.
You have put it very well...N ot many Indian men would understand that because they only think about their own hurt egos , including the judge !
yes it is system in whole world men are superior than women. Judge may be man. "Khatey Hain Pyar Ki Duniya Main Do Dil Muskil Se Samtey Hai, Gair To Kya apno Tak Kay Saye Bhi Na Anney Patey Hai, What is role of Judge and court in love world of husband and wife.
People who give importance to love and marriage for them there is no need of court and judge but the present world witnesses a very problematic marital relationship, naturally couples get forced to take the help of judicial system.
9 years ago
anil replied to the topic Cwar may erupt with higher castes also asking for reservations.
MG Singh wrote:
rambabu wrote:
Babu saroj wrote:
why people of India need reservation. why they cannot believe on their own will power to do something on their own. why they need help of anybody.
Reservation is such an alluring thing that everybody wants to avail it, though people are well off. Caste Reservations are the root cause of all the evils
Reservation can only be abolished by a dictatorship. In that case a spell of army rule is needed
Dictatorship for ever is not possible and we also don't like it. If emergency impose for limited time, like 1975, and reservation abolished, after election new government will reinstate reservation.
9 years ago
anil replied to the topic Anti India slogan in JNU, Delhi.
MG Singh wrote:
A point that so called champions of 'truth' fail to realize that a nation is not built on tolerance. In Pakistan a young man has been sentenced to 10 years in jail for flying the Indian flag. ( he was a fan of Kohli). Nation cannot be built on tolerance. This earlier caused the defeat of Hindus. All the culprits need to be arrested and sent to jail. I would advocate flogging like in Singapore. I was in Singapore when an Indian was flogged on orders of court for a trivial offence.
You are right all culprits must be sent to jail, indeed hard punishment is only thing which can stop crimes. Criminal must be have fear of punishment, but I am not in favor of flogging because it is violence. It is Chopai of Ramayna, Sa Cope Boley Ram Parbhu, Bhya Bina Hoi No Preet.
9 years ago
anil replied to the topic Farmer's suicide- Is this fashion!.
rambabu wrote:
anil wrote:
Shampa Sadhya wrote:
anil wrote:
rambabu wrote:
Shampa Sadhya wrote:
anil wrote:
usha manohar wrote:
The maximum number of suicide cases are in Karnataka and the CM Siddaramaiah had made some such similar statement , even more insensitive , saying committing suicide had become a habit with farmers in villages and reporting it with relish was a fashion with the media, he had even questioned the media asking them, dont you have anything better to write about, \....No discussion was started about that news was here but of course BJP is news ...Although I am totally against what the BJP minister said about the suicide , it is very insensitive !
Suicide is not solution of problem. I don't know why they are doing. In my state case of farmers suicide is not like other states. Suicide is not habit of farmers but rubbish statements is habit of leaders.
Truly, suicide is not a solution but the poor farmers usually are left with nothing else. The burden of debt is pathetic which frustrates them and they choose the path of suicide.
Respective state governments are expected to sell the farmers Seeds at a subsidized price. But sadly, many governments are selling away the seeds to black marketeers so that the respective MLA pockets the commission. Under such conditions, the farmers are forced to go for loans which, he cannot repay.
Last year agriculture minister of Punjab also pocket commission and duplicate pesticides supplied by manufactures. Crops of cotton destroyed with it. Resultant some farmers commit suicide. Farmers must be think for other means of income like polutry, dairy, and also another crops than traditional.
@anil Lack of education is one very important point which never allows the farmers to think beyond agriculture. There are options like poultry and many more but the farmers fail to take the advantage of it only because they do not have a sound educational and financial background.
You are right but in my area situation is differ. Farmers are much aware about education, Here farmers are doing new experiments in farming. They are also aware for size of their family. today I read one farmer, who was doing business in Canda come back to India and start organic farming. He is using pesticide which is made with cow urine and some local plants.
I agree with you. Subhas Palekar of Maharashtra started a type of Farming, known as 'Natural Farming' or Zero Budget farming doesn't need Chemicals or tractors. Natural fertilizers made out of cow dung and urine are used. The results are fantastic. Such farming is the only panacea in these conditions. The question of Farmer suicides will never arise.
In Punjab many farmers doing Zero cost farming. It is duty of government and agriculture department to promote this system of farming. Lobby of pestisides manufactures much powerful and influential, so farmer must be aware from these. You know saffron is crop of Hills area but here in Rajsthan one person successfully farming it.
9 years ago
anil replied to the topic A Letter of Divorce Threat is a Cruelty .
usha manohar wrote:
anil wrote:
Faith and trust is base of relation of Husband and wife. Wife write letter to her husband with this believe that it is matter between them and husband think about her problem. In this case husband used letter in court case, it is breach of trust.
You have put it very well...N ot many Indian men would understand that because they only think about their own hurt egos , including the judge !
yes it is system in whole world men are superior than women. Judge may be man. "Khatey Hain Pyar Ki Duniya Main Do Dil Muskil Se Samtey Hai, Gair To Kya apno Tak Kay Saye Bhi Na Anney Patey Hai, What is role of Judge and court in love world of husband and wife.
9 years ago
anil replied to the topic Foreign bollywood actresses.
usha manohar wrote:
anil wrote:
vijay wrote:
Now should people chose colors also as per your advice? Indian Sikhs have married into African families in Kenya and are accepted by them as their own. It is individuals choice.
Beauty is in the eyes of person who is looking, God Rama, Krishna and Vishnu are not fair color but we all worship them. I think Sikhs who is living in Kenya for many years have married with African girls. Indeed they also accept culture and tradition of that countries.
I am really not sure how this color distinction came about in the first place especially some peoples love for white skin ! Is it a fact that the white race is intellectually and physically superior, so people run after them or is it something else ?
Not some peoples most of like white and fair color because it is sign of beauty in Asia and Europe. But in African countries peoples like black skin, there black skin is sign of beauty.
9 years ago
anil replied to the topic Introduction of Flogging as a punishment for some offences where a simple jail term has no meaning.
MG Singh wrote:
rambabu wrote:
I know, the existence of Flogging in the Army act to curb offenses. I have a doubt can Flogging be made applicable to Civilian spheres too ? I'm not sure. Please clarify.
Flogging of civilians is accepted in nearly 3 dozen countries and some of them like Singapore are developed nations. I remember reading that when General Ayub seized power in Pakistan he introduced flogging for civilians for specific crimes. So long martial law remained in Pakistan this provision remained on statute books. In Singapore this punishment is for petty crimes like theft and littering the place and a doctor is present. Insulting the Singapore flag merits 6 lashes.
flogging means physical torchar, it violence. I am not in favor of it.
9 years ago
vijay replied to the topic Introduction of Flogging as a punishment for some offences where a simple jail term has no meaning.
It is a retrograde suggestion to introduce flogging. Next it will be chopping of hands!! Please let us not go back in time.
9 years ago
vijay replied to the topic Foreign bollywood actresses.
Surely white race is not intellectually and physically superior. It is only because they discovered the steam engine and this shifted production and markets to their control and they are reaping its benefits till today. AS they are economically successful the world looks at them with awe.
9 years ago
rambabu replied to the topic Anti India slogan in JNU, Delhi.
usha manohar wrote:
rambabu wrote:
usha manohar wrote:
rambabu wrote:
Shampa Sadhya wrote:
rambabu wrote:
usha manohar wrote:
rambabu wrote:
usha manohar wrote:
rambabu wrote:
MG Singh wrote:
rambabu wrote:
I sincerely feel, in a discussion forum, the question of losing temper by the members is unhealthy. If a member comes up with a convincing response related to the Thread, one has to be broadminded and accept the other member's response.Only undesirable fact is, no member should force his opinion.
Yes Rambabu, you have hit the nail on the head. great comment
In this context, I recall an opinion expressed by one of our learned members. His wise words are still ringing in my ears. He said, if some member refuses to accept the other member's opinion, leave it. We need a congenial atmosphere in these discussion forums.
This is a case of the pan calling the kettle black....Rambabu's is a view typical of a fence sitter shifting his views as things go LOL....so I find it ludicrous that he is lecturing about losing temper , when he himself is insulting and rude to many members ..
Can you quote a single instance where I insulted and behaved rudely with another member ? This is a baseless allegation.
Since you have enough time on hand as told by you time and again , for a starter you could go through your various discussions without any bias ..
Since you alleged about my rude behaviour, it would be appropriate for you to quote about my rude behaviour. Anyhow, this kind of allegations and counter allegations will not lead us anywhere. As a gesture of goodwill and modesty, I withdraw. I don't have anything to add to this discussion.
I don't want to fan this discussion further but still I feel there is a need to point out that in this forum someone accuses some others as armchair specialists and so on. It only proves how as a forum member we do not respect each other. Every opinion cannot be according to our choice but that does not give someone the right to raise a question regarding the knowledge of others and their qualification. It will be better if we stick to our limit.
I'm the one who respect others opinions. This has been clarified already
Clarified by who? as usual by yourself? you said you were out of the discussion after which you have posted 5 or 6 posts, please be consistent ..
I need a certificate ?
I doubt if you would get one...LOL
OK. If I don't get a certificate, I sit in my Home,
9 years ago
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani replied to the topic Introduction of Flogging as a punishment for some offences where a simple jail term has no meaning.
vijay wrote:
It is a retrograde suggestion to introduce flogging. Next it will be chopping of hands!! Please let us not go back in time.
Flogging if administered under proper medical supervision is a good punishment. This does not make anybody suffer body injury for life. Chopping of hands is very different. This will make one handicapped for life.
9 years ago
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani replied to the topic Anti India slogan in JNU, Delhi.
There is no dispute about any one accused of some offence- small or big- getting arrested and punished according to law. But the issue becomes debatable when mad frenzy is created, law is taken in hand by mob including so called advocates and legal proceedings not allowed. This is what we witnessed in Delhi court when Kanhaiya of JNU was produced.
9 years ago
took the quiz Quiz on taglines of Indian companies.
This is a Quiz on taglines of Indian companies.lets see how much you know about this.Choose the correct answers from the options given below.
9 years ago
passed the quiz Quiz on taglines of Indian companies.
This is a Quiz on taglines of Indian companies.lets see how much you know about this.Choose the correct answers from the options given below.
9 years ago
Babu saroj replied to the topic A Letter of Divorce Threat is a Cruelty .
well i think if the wife uses the calm and silence way to express her feeling in front of her hubby and tell him about herself, that she had fallen in love with another man then i think, yeah there will be some fight and voice rises in between her and her husband but at last i think that her husband will accept her wife decision because after hearing this things from her wife nobody can do anything, at last he have to accept her wife decision because there is no way left for him.
9 years ago
Shampa Sadhya replied to the topic A Letter of Divorce Threat is a Cruelty .
anil wrote:
usha manohar wrote:
anil wrote:
Faith and trust is base of relation of Husband and wife. Wife write letter to her husband with this believe that it is matter between them and husband think about her problem. In this case husband used letter in court case, it is breach of trust.
You have put it very well...N ot many Indian men would understand that because they only think about their own hurt egos , including the judge !
yes it is system in whole world men are superior than women. Judge may be man. "Khatey Hain Pyar Ki Duniya Main Do Dil Muskil Se Samtey Hai, Gair To Kya apno Tak Kay Saye Bhi Na Anney Patey Hai, What is role of Judge and court in love world of husband and wife.
People who give importance to love and marriage for them there is no need of court and judge but the present world witnesses a very problematic marital relationship, naturally couples get forced to take the help of judicial system.
9 years ago
anil replied to the topic Cwar may erupt with higher castes also asking for reservations.
MG Singh wrote:
rambabu wrote:
Babu saroj wrote:
why people of India need reservation. why they cannot believe on their own will power to do something on their own. why they need help of anybody.
Reservation is such an alluring thing that everybody wants to avail it, though people are well off. Caste Reservations are the root cause of all the evils
Reservation can only be abolished by a dictatorship. In that case a spell of army rule is needed
Dictatorship for ever is not possible and we also don't like it. If emergency impose for limited time, like 1975, and reservation abolished, after election new government will reinstate reservation.
9 years ago
anil replied to the topic Anti India slogan in JNU, Delhi.
MG Singh wrote:
A point that so called champions of 'truth' fail to realize that a nation is not built on tolerance. In Pakistan a young man has been sentenced to 10 years in jail for flying the Indian flag. ( he was a fan of Kohli). Nation cannot be built on tolerance. This earlier caused the defeat of Hindus. All the culprits need to be arrested and sent to jail. I would advocate flogging like in Singapore. I was in Singapore when an Indian was flogged on orders of court for a trivial offence.
You are right all culprits must be sent to jail, indeed hard punishment is only thing which can stop crimes. Criminal must be have fear of punishment, but I am not in favor of flogging because it is violence. It is Chopai of Ramayna, Sa Cope Boley Ram Parbhu, Bhya Bina Hoi No Preet.
9 years ago
anil replied to the topic Farmer's suicide- Is this fashion!.
rambabu wrote:
anil wrote:
Shampa Sadhya wrote:
anil wrote:
rambabu wrote:
Shampa Sadhya wrote:
anil wrote:
usha manohar wrote:
The maximum number of suicide cases are in Karnataka and the CM Siddaramaiah had made some such similar statement , even more insensitive , saying committing suicide had become a habit with farmers in villages and reporting it with relish was a fashion with the media, he had even questioned the media asking them, dont you have anything better to write about, \....No discussion was started about that news was here but of course BJP is news ...Although I am totally against what the BJP minister said about the suicide , it is very insensitive !
Suicide is not solution of problem. I don't know why they are doing. In my state case of farmers suicide is not like other states. Suicide is not habit of farmers but rubbish statements is habit of leaders.
Truly, suicide is not a solution but the poor farmers usually are left with nothing else. The burden of debt is pathetic which frustrates them and they choose the path of suicide.
Respective state governments are expected to sell the farmers Seeds at a subsidized price. But sadly, many governments are selling away the seeds to black marketeers so that the respective MLA pockets the commission. Under such conditions, the farmers are forced to go for loans which, he cannot repay.
Last year agriculture minister of Punjab also pocket commission and duplicate pesticides supplied by manufactures. Crops of cotton destroyed with it. Resultant some farmers commit suicide. Farmers must be think for other means of income like polutry, dairy, and also another crops than traditional.
@anil Lack of education is one very important point which never allows the farmers to think beyond agriculture. There are options like poultry and many more but the farmers fail to take the advantage of it only because they do not have a sound educational and financial background.
You are right but in my area situation is differ. Farmers are much aware about education, Here farmers are doing new experiments in farming. They are also aware for size of their family. today I read one farmer, who was doing business in Canda come back to India and start organic farming. He is using pesticide which is made with cow urine and some local plants.
I agree with you. Subhas Palekar of Maharashtra started a type of Farming, known as 'Natural Farming' or Zero Budget farming doesn't need Chemicals or tractors. Natural fertilizers made out of cow dung and urine are used. The results are fantastic. Such farming is the only panacea in these conditions. The question of Farmer suicides will never arise.
In Punjab many farmers doing Zero cost farming. It is duty of government and agriculture department to promote this system of farming. Lobby of pestisides manufactures much powerful and influential, so farmer must be aware from these. You know saffron is crop of Hills area but here in Rajsthan one person successfully farming it.
9 years ago
anil replied to the topic A Letter of Divorce Threat is a Cruelty .
usha manohar wrote:
anil wrote:
Faith and trust is base of relation of Husband and wife. Wife write letter to her husband with this believe that it is matter between them and husband think about her problem. In this case husband used letter in court case, it is breach of trust.
You have put it very well...N ot many Indian men would understand that because they only think about their own hurt egos , including the judge !
yes it is system in whole world men are superior than women. Judge may be man. "Khatey Hain Pyar Ki Duniya Main Do Dil Muskil Se Samtey Hai, Gair To Kya apno Tak Kay Saye Bhi Na Anney Patey Hai, What is role of Judge and court in love world of husband and wife.
9 years ago
anil replied to the topic Foreign bollywood actresses.
usha manohar wrote:
anil wrote:
vijay wrote:
Now should people chose colors also as per your advice? Indian Sikhs have married into African families in Kenya and are accepted by them as their own. It is individuals choice.
Beauty is in the eyes of person who is looking, God Rama, Krishna and Vishnu are not fair color but we all worship them. I think Sikhs who is living in Kenya for many years have married with African girls. Indeed they also accept culture and tradition of that countries.
I am really not sure how this color distinction came about in the first place especially some peoples love for white skin ! Is it a fact that the white race is intellectually and physically superior, so people run after them or is it something else ?
Not some peoples most of like white and fair color because it is sign of beauty in Asia and Europe. But in African countries peoples like black skin, there black skin is sign of beauty.
9 years ago
anil replied to the topic Introduction of Flogging as a punishment for some offences where a simple jail term has no meaning.
MG Singh wrote:
rambabu wrote:
I know, the existence of Flogging in the Army act to curb offenses. I have a doubt can Flogging be made applicable to Civilian spheres too ? I'm not sure. Please clarify.
Flogging of civilians is accepted in nearly 3 dozen countries and some of them like Singapore are developed nations. I remember reading that when General Ayub seized power in Pakistan he introduced flogging for civilians for specific crimes. So long martial law remained in Pakistan this provision remained on statute books. In Singapore this punishment is for petty crimes like theft and littering the place and a doctor is present. Insulting the Singapore flag merits 6 lashes.
flogging means physical torchar, it violence. I am not in favor of it.
9 years ago
vijay replied to the topic Introduction of Flogging as a punishment for some offences where a simple jail term has no meaning.
It is a retrograde suggestion to introduce flogging. Next it will be chopping of hands!! Please let us not go back in time.
9 years ago
vijay replied to the topic Foreign bollywood actresses.
Surely white race is not intellectually and physically superior. It is only because they discovered the steam engine and this shifted production and markets to their control and they are reaping its benefits till today. AS they are economically successful the world looks at them with awe.
9 years ago
rambabu replied to the topic Anti India slogan in JNU, Delhi.
usha manohar wrote:
rambabu wrote:
usha manohar wrote:
rambabu wrote:
Shampa Sadhya wrote:
rambabu wrote:
usha manohar wrote:
rambabu wrote:
usha manohar wrote:
rambabu wrote:
MG Singh wrote:
rambabu wrote:
I sincerely feel, in a discussion forum, the question of losing temper by the members is unhealthy. If a member comes up with a convincing response related to the Thread, one has to be broadminded and accept the other member's response.Only undesirable fact is, no member should force his opinion.
Yes Rambabu, you have hit the nail on the head. great comment
In this context, I recall an opinion expressed by one of our learned members. His wise words are still ringing in my ears. He said, if some member refuses to accept the other member's opinion, leave it. We need a congenial atmosphere in these discussion forums.
This is a case of the pan calling the kettle black....Rambabu's is a view typical of a fence sitter shifting his views as things go LOL....so I find it ludicrous that he is lecturing about losing temper , when he himself is insulting and rude to many members ..
Can you quote a single instance where I insulted and behaved rudely with another member ? This is a baseless allegation.
Since you have enough time on hand as told by you time and again , for a starter you could go through your various discussions without any bias ..
Since you alleged about my rude behaviour, it would be appropriate for you to quote about my rude behaviour. Anyhow, this kind of allegations and counter allegations will not lead us anywhere. As a gesture of goodwill and modesty, I withdraw. I don't have anything to add to this discussion.
I don't want to fan this discussion further but still I feel there is a need to point out that in this forum someone accuses some others as armchair specialists and so on. It only proves how as a forum member we do not respect each other. Every opinion cannot be according to our choice but that does not give someone the right to raise a question regarding the knowledge of others and their qualification. It will be better if we stick to our limit.
I'm the one who respect others opinions. This has been clarified already
Clarified by who? as usual by yourself? you said you were out of the discussion after which you have posted 5 or 6 posts, please be consistent ..
I need a certificate ?
I doubt if you would get one...LOL
OK. If I don't get a certificate, I sit in my Home,
9 years ago