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usha manohar replied to the topic dangerous to read Urdu. .
In Karnataka except for the coastal region where almost all Muslims are Maplas and Malabaris, Malyalam is spoken by them but all other places they speak Hindi mixed with some Urdu words. I suppose the more cultured and educated families speak pure Urdu or else , it is popularly known as Jhatka hindi..
9 years ago
usha manohar replied to the topic Let's discuss facts.
MG Singh wrote:
vijay wrote:
The persons to be blamed for reservation mess is Mandal and V P Singh, not Ambedkar who did it for the most deprived and persecuted SC/ST and that too for 10 years. Why bring his religion. Can it not be kept out if discussions.
His beliefs have an important bearing on what he wrote. He framed the constitution in a way that allowed the government to expand the definition by including powers to identify OBC. Arun Shourie has written extensively on Ambedkar and I have read somewhere that Ambedkar denigrated Hindu gods and bore a grudge against Hinduism. All this is very relevant to the discussion
Of course religion plays a dominant part in caste reservations....Here is a very interesting link that gives some points of views expressed by people close to Ambedkar and others..
https://www.quora.com/Why-did-Ambedkar-hate-Hinduism
9 years ago
Babu saroj replied to the topic Fabrication of evidence. .
MG Singh wrote:
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani wrote:
Babu saroj wrote:
well this is a democratic country and everyone have the right to do anything they can fabricate also but fabricating for the means of destroying peace of the country is a serious crime.
Funny to know that in a democratic country, you may fabricate videos. This is offence under I.P.C. and amounts to fraud. I hope some one will say that in a democratic country, theft, murder, rape are also allowed.
such analogies are not correct. Do you honestly believe what you have written?
Well sir i know that you have misunderstood me, i don't mean that fabricating the video by the means of destroying the peace of the country is good, i mean that this is India and everyone has the right to do anything they can even fabricate the video but for fun only, if the person is fabricating the video for fun and which will not create any offences is good and anyone can do that but if the person is trying to fabricate the video which will create noise and crime in the society then it is a serious crime and should be punished for doing that
9 years ago
Jincy Aby replied to the topic dangerous to read Urdu. .
suni51 wrote:
Jincy Aby wrote:
suni51 wrote:
Jincy Aby wrote:
Urdu is considered as the language of Muslims. People in India are afraid of Muslims especially when they speak in Urdu. The terrorists from Pakistan can come to India at any time. When people read or speak in Urdu, the innocent people of India always think about the Pakistani terrorist because they cannot forget about the terrorist attack of Pakistani people in our country. They are always in tensions.
I have been brought up in Lucknow therefore know to speak Urdu. I don't speak Punjabi much but that is my mother tongue. I hope no one will consider me a terrorist just by listening to me. It's not the language but the intention that is case of suspicion.
Hindi is considered as our national language. I hope that all north Indian people can speak in Hindi very well. Then why do you speak in Urdu? Is Urdu the language of Luknow?
Like you said people in North India believe that everyone beyond Satpura is a MADRASI and speaks Madrasi (not even Tamil and many have no idea that there are four states having different languages).
I said I can speak Urdu but as you can speak Tamil or any other language of south apart from Malayalam. I have lived in south for years in phases so I know all about culture and languages of that part of the country.
Now, why I speak Urdu is for a simple reason Urdu is one of the other 8 languages that I can speak. As far Hindi is concerned that is not my Mother tongue but I speak it in normal conversation.
By the way I have spoken to many people in Urdu in all four state of south, the pronunciation is different but understandable.
Really you are great!! You are capable to speak in eight different languages.............In this world, very few people have this ability. Keep it up.
9 years ago
Babu saroj replied to the topic Let's discuss facts.
rambabu wrote:
Reservations by caste not only a blow to the merit, it divides the country in to parts resulting in caste wars.
Yeah sir reservations openly means that the politicians are dividing the country in to certain parts from where they can get vote by manipulating in the name of reservation
9 years ago
usha manohar replied to the topic dangerous to read Urdu. .
In Karnataka except for the coastal region where almost all Muslims are Maplas and Malabaris, Malyalam is spoken by them but all other places they speak Hindi mixed with some Urdu words. I suppose the more cultured and educated families speak pure Urdu or else , it is popularly known as Jhatka hindi..
9 years ago
usha manohar replied to the topic Let's discuss facts.
MG Singh wrote:
vijay wrote:
The persons to be blamed for reservation mess is Mandal and V P Singh, not Ambedkar who did it for the most deprived and persecuted SC/ST and that too for 10 years. Why bring his religion. Can it not be kept out if discussions.
His beliefs have an important bearing on what he wrote. He framed the constitution in a way that allowed the government to expand the definition by including powers to identify OBC. Arun Shourie has written extensively on Ambedkar and I have read somewhere that Ambedkar denigrated Hindu gods and bore a grudge against Hinduism. All this is very relevant to the discussion
Of course religion plays a dominant part in caste reservations....Here is a very interesting link that gives some points of views expressed by people close to Ambedkar and others..
https://www.quora.com/Why-did-Ambedkar-hate-Hinduism
9 years ago
Babu saroj replied to the topic Fabrication of evidence. .
MG Singh wrote:
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani wrote:
Babu saroj wrote:
well this is a democratic country and everyone have the right to do anything they can fabricate also but fabricating for the means of destroying peace of the country is a serious crime.
Funny to know that in a democratic country, you may fabricate videos. This is offence under I.P.C. and amounts to fraud. I hope some one will say that in a democratic country, theft, murder, rape are also allowed.
such analogies are not correct. Do you honestly believe what you have written?
Well sir i know that you have misunderstood me, i don't mean that fabricating the video by the means of destroying the peace of the country is good, i mean that this is India and everyone has the right to do anything they can even fabricate the video but for fun only, if the person is fabricating the video for fun and which will not create any offences is good and anyone can do that but if the person is trying to fabricate the video which will create noise and crime in the society then it is a serious crime and should be punished for doing that
9 years ago
Jincy Aby replied to the topic dangerous to read Urdu. .
suni51 wrote:
Jincy Aby wrote:
suni51 wrote:
Jincy Aby wrote:
Urdu is considered as the language of Muslims. People in India are afraid of Muslims especially when they speak in Urdu. The terrorists from Pakistan can come to India at any time. When people read or speak in Urdu, the innocent people of India always think about the Pakistani terrorist because they cannot forget about the terrorist attack of Pakistani people in our country. They are always in tensions.
I have been brought up in Lucknow therefore know to speak Urdu. I don't speak Punjabi much but that is my mother tongue. I hope no one will consider me a terrorist just by listening to me. It's not the language but the intention that is case of suspicion.
Hindi is considered as our national language. I hope that all north Indian people can speak in Hindi very well. Then why do you speak in Urdu? Is Urdu the language of Luknow?
Like you said people in North India believe that everyone beyond Satpura is a MADRASI and speaks Madrasi (not even Tamil and many have no idea that there are four states having different languages).
I said I can speak Urdu but as you can speak Tamil or any other language of south apart from Malayalam. I have lived in south for years in phases so I know all about culture and languages of that part of the country.
Now, why I speak Urdu is for a simple reason Urdu is one of the other 8 languages that I can speak. As far Hindi is concerned that is not my Mother tongue but I speak it in normal conversation.
By the way I have spoken to many people in Urdu in all four state of south, the pronunciation is different but understandable.
Really you are great!! You are capable to speak in eight different languages.............In this world, very few people have this ability. Keep it up.
9 years ago
Babu saroj replied to the topic Let's discuss facts.
rambabu wrote:
Reservations by caste not only a blow to the merit, it divides the country in to parts resulting in caste wars.
Yeah sir reservations openly means that the politicians are dividing the country in to certain parts from where they can get vote by manipulating in the name of reservation
9 years ago