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vijay replied to the topic How you view mythology!.
Mythology is not an absolute index of one's being Left or Right. In general those who oppose tradition based exploitation are leftists and those who uphold it are rightists. Leftists want to change society to be more equitable and rightists want to consolidate existing. Leftists are more international and rightists are more national in their outlook.
9 years ago
vijay replied to the topic Is this women empowerment? .
Social changes are inherently slow in pace. The important issue is is the system aware and are necessary laws being passed to ensure equality and empowerment of weaker sections of society. I would say yes. Where frustration comes is in their implementation. Charismatic leadership can hasten the process. But one should not get so frustrated as to wonder what is going to happen to country. Progress is being made and it is impacting all sections but not uniformly. Have faith and hope.
9 years ago
Shampa Sadhya replied to the topic Is this women empowerment? .
Kalyani Nandurkar wrote:
Shampa Sadhya wrote:
I want to stick to women empowerment and not discuss about empowerment of Muslim women only. In percentage their condition is certainly more vulnerable than the women of other communities but the point is why such demarcations are still present in this society even when we are in 21st Century. The basic problem is with the sick mindset of the people for this I won't blame only the men but there are women who love to suppress the young ladies only because during their young days they were made to sacrifice their qualities and suffer. There are women who in the name of empowerment and achievement use various immoral tricks and there are many such men who willingly favour it. This is so ridiculous.Each one of us need to change our mindset, think positively, be unbiased irrespective of gender and be ethical. I think with such basic changes in our lives will empower every woman and resultantly it will upgrade our standard of living.
The problem with our society is that the list of the priorities is all wrong and screwed up. The things that deserve attention and focus are at the bottom and the ones that are not so important top the list. Sadly, it is fueled by our political system which uses religion to its own advantage. Religion, caste, regionalism such as we South Indians, you North Indians, you this, you that rule the scenario. No one wants to come on the same level as the next one, roll up their sleeves and get down to work. Each one is left pursuing his or her own agenda, country comes no where in the scene. So in effect the weaker sections, including women from all communities are left behind.
Perfect! This will go on and on unless there is a drastic change in the thought process of our political leaders. Even every family has to have impartial treatment towards their children without any favouritism. About society I have no words to say because the treatment females of any age receive is pathetic. Sometimes one's own home proves to be unsafe for many unfortunate females. If this mentality persists then women empowerment is impossible.
9 years ago
Shampa Sadhya replied to the topic How you view mythology!.
I use my own mind, moral values, experiences and derive knowledge from other's experiences too and then form my own opinion. So, I am not on any side.
9 years ago
MG Singh replied to the topic Anti India slogan in JNU, Delhi.
Babu saroj wrote:
vijay wrote:
It seems what many want is restricted freedom of speech and not freedom of speech. Then let the restrictions be clearly laid out. Because views expressed under the right of freedom of speech are subjected to individual evaluations which vary from person to person. In view of JNU episode the restrictions should be made clear so citizens are also clear. A forum member has been advocating that Prashant Bhushan is a traitor and needs to be whipped. He always advocates harshest punishments and uses choicest offensive words against whom he does not like. Is this proper use of the right of freedom of speech which he wants to enjoy but denies similar right to others because he does not like their opinions.
people like Prashant Bhushan knows their rights only when they are speaking, this kind people thinks that this rights are only meant for them, they forget that these rights are also for the people of India. this kind of people follows only one rights and that is right of own liking which means they do, they hear on the basis of their own liking and if they don't like they will not hear nor they will do anything which they should do.
Good points are raised. Prashant Bhushan and similar people deserve no sympathy. In fact if I had the power I would recommend whipping and the stockade.
9 years ago
Shampa Sadhya replied to the topic Dowry and alimony.
Kalyani Nandurkar wrote:
I guess the Times of India reporters do not know that alimony is given only to spouses and not parents! Alimony, support, maintenance, call it whatever you like, it amounts to the same thing and that is 'to provide financial support to the ones who are left holding the wrong end of the stick.' So what problem is there if 'alimony' is paid to parents instead of support?
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Old-parents-can-get-alimony-too/articleshow/611401.cms
@Kalyani You shared a very meaningful link. This should be read by each and every son and daughter along with their spouses. I wonder why parents need to go to court and file case against their child/children for survival! Don't the children feel ashamed of themselves? There can be unnumbered differences or maybe parents are at fault but that can never give liberty to the children to leave their parents to starve or drive them away from home. This has to be a moral responsibility of every child towards their parents and guardians.
9 years ago
Babu saroj replied to the topic Anti India slogan in JNU, Delhi.
vijay wrote:
It seems what many want is restricted freedom of speech and not freedom of speech. Then let the restrictions be clearly laid out. Because views expressed under the right of freedom of speech are subjected to individual evaluations which vary from person to person. In view of JNU episode the restrictions should be made clear so citizens are also clear. A forum member has been advocating that Prashant Bhushan is a traitor and needs to be whipped. He always advocates harshest punishments and uses choicest offensive words against whom he does not like. Is this proper use of the right of freedom of speech which he wants to enjoy but denies similar right to others because he does not like their opinions.
people like Prashant Bhushan knows their rights only when they are speaking, this kind people thinks that this rights are only meant for them, they forget that these rights are also for the people of India. this kind of people follows only one rights and that is right of own liking which means they do, they hear on the basis of their own liking and if they don't like they will not hear nor they will do anything which they should do.
9 years ago
Kalyani Nandurkar replied to the topic Is this women empowerment? .
Shampa Sadhya wrote:
I want to stick to women empowerment and not discuss about empowerment of Muslim women only. In percentage their condition is certainly more vulnerable than the women of other communities but the point is why such demarcations are still present in this society even when we are in 21st Century. The basic problem is with the sick mindset of the people for this I won't blame only the men but there are women who love to suppress the young ladies only because during their young days they were made to sacrifice their qualities and suffer. There are women who in the name of empowerment and achievement use various immoral tricks and there are many such men who willingly favour it. This is so ridiculous.Each one of us need to change our mindset, think positively, be unbiased irrespective of gender and be ethical. I think with such basic changes in our lives will empower every woman and resultantly it will upgrade our standard of living.
The problem with our society is that the list of the priorities is all wrong and screwed up. The things that deserve attention and focus are at the bottom and the ones that are not so important top the list. Sadly, it is fueled by our political system which uses religion to its own advantage. Religion, caste, regionalism such as we South Indians, you North Indians, you this, you that rule the scenario. No one wants to come on the same level as the next one, roll up their sleeves and get down to work. Each one is left pursuing his or her own agenda, country comes no where in the scene. So in effect the weaker sections, including women from all communities are left behind.
9 years ago
Kalyani Nandurkar said thank you to chinmoymukherjee for his/her reply to the topic Anti India slogan in JNU, Delhi.
Here comes the brilliant judgement of Justice Pratiba Rani of Delhi HC! She has granted bail to Kanhaiya Kumar what could be construed as 'antibiotic treatment' in her own words ,talking about the danger of infection needing surgery even amputation of it when that infection turns gangrenous! She has exposed all our pseudos whose only passion is polemics. She has taken a dig at a section of teachers whose credentials are suspect,they are out there to lead students into a world of anarchy and nihilism.I request you to go through her judgement. A very thought- provoking one!!
9 years ago
suni51 replied to the topic Anti India slogan in JNU, Delhi.
anil wrote:
suni51 wrote:
All such people behaving in such a hateful manner have no right to stay in open and if someone wants me to brand a BJP party follower that I am certainly not but I speak for my country. When a BJP member talks bad I react in the same way. It's high time we forget all about party affiliations and work for our nation or wait for the dooms day. After all what kind of freedom of expression is that which speaks ill against our own Mother-Nation? I hail the judgement of the Delhi High Court.
You are much annoyed on Delhi High court judgement. But it is interim judgement not final one. Still courts of India is raise of hope. for one moment if we accept that president of JNU did not rays anti India slogan than who did it. He is president of JNU and also host of that meeting. for any wrong thing he is prime facia responsible. Now it is his duty to trace persons who raise slogan. One more question he called meeting to gloryfy Afzal, why he did not call meeting to pay homage to martyr, brave security personal of India who sacrifice their life to save to honor and grace of temple of India's democracy, " The Parliament.
Wow, where did you read me that I am feeling bad about that judgement? In fact I am all in praise about that judgement. She knew what she was up to. She has trust on our defense system and she knows all about the cowardice, anti national acts of people like Kanaihas and his supporters. She also knows where the support is coming from and who is being targeted.
9 years ago
Shampa Sadhya replied to the topic Is this women empowerment? .
I want to stick to women empowerment and not discuss about empowerment of Muslim women only. In percentage their condition is certainly more vulnerable than the women of other communities but the point is why such demarcations are still present in this society even when we are in 21st Century. The basic problem is with the sick mindset of the people for this I won't blame only the men but there are women who love to suppress the young ladies only because during their young days they were made to sacrifice their qualities and suffer. There are women who in the name of empowerment and achievement use various immoral tricks and there are many such men who willingly favour it. This is so ridiculous.Each one of us need to change our mindset, think positively, be unbiased irrespective of gender and be ethical. I think with such basic changes in our lives will empower every woman and resultantly it will upgrade our standard of living.
9 years ago
I guess the Times of India reporters do not know that alimony is given only to spouses and not parents! Alimony, support, maintenance, call it whatever you like, it amounts to the same thing and that is 'to provide financial support to the ones who are left holding the wrong end of the stick.' So what problem is there if 'alimony' is paid to parents instead of support?
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Old-parents-can-get-alimony-too/articleshow/611401.cms
9 years ago
rambabu replied to the topic Dowry and alimony.
Very informative article Kalyani. As early as 1975, the Supreme court said the object of Section 125 Cr PC clarified is"to provide a Summary remedy to save dependents from destitution and vagrancy and thus to serve a Social purpose". This article removed all the misconceptions prevailing about Alimony.
Everybody should read this article.
9 years ago
vijay replied to the topic How you view mythology!.
Mythology is not an absolute index of one's being Left or Right. In general those who oppose tradition based exploitation are leftists and those who uphold it are rightists. Leftists want to change society to be more equitable and rightists want to consolidate existing. Leftists are more international and rightists are more national in their outlook.
9 years ago
vijay replied to the topic Is this women empowerment? .
Social changes are inherently slow in pace. The important issue is is the system aware and are necessary laws being passed to ensure equality and empowerment of weaker sections of society. I would say yes. Where frustration comes is in their implementation. Charismatic leadership can hasten the process. But one should not get so frustrated as to wonder what is going to happen to country. Progress is being made and it is impacting all sections but not uniformly. Have faith and hope.
9 years ago
Shampa Sadhya replied to the topic Is this women empowerment? .
Kalyani Nandurkar wrote:
Shampa Sadhya wrote:
I want to stick to women empowerment and not discuss about empowerment of Muslim women only. In percentage their condition is certainly more vulnerable than the women of other communities but the point is why such demarcations are still present in this society even when we are in 21st Century. The basic problem is with the sick mindset of the people for this I won't blame only the men but there are women who love to suppress the young ladies only because during their young days they were made to sacrifice their qualities and suffer. There are women who in the name of empowerment and achievement use various immoral tricks and there are many such men who willingly favour it. This is so ridiculous.Each one of us need to change our mindset, think positively, be unbiased irrespective of gender and be ethical. I think with such basic changes in our lives will empower every woman and resultantly it will upgrade our standard of living.
The problem with our society is that the list of the priorities is all wrong and screwed up. The things that deserve attention and focus are at the bottom and the ones that are not so important top the list. Sadly, it is fueled by our political system which uses religion to its own advantage. Religion, caste, regionalism such as we South Indians, you North Indians, you this, you that rule the scenario. No one wants to come on the same level as the next one, roll up their sleeves and get down to work. Each one is left pursuing his or her own agenda, country comes no where in the scene. So in effect the weaker sections, including women from all communities are left behind.
Perfect! This will go on and on unless there is a drastic change in the thought process of our political leaders. Even every family has to have impartial treatment towards their children without any favouritism. About society I have no words to say because the treatment females of any age receive is pathetic. Sometimes one's own home proves to be unsafe for many unfortunate females. If this mentality persists then women empowerment is impossible.
9 years ago
Shampa Sadhya replied to the topic How you view mythology!.
I use my own mind, moral values, experiences and derive knowledge from other's experiences too and then form my own opinion. So, I am not on any side.
9 years ago
MG Singh replied to the topic Anti India slogan in JNU, Delhi.
Babu saroj wrote:
vijay wrote:
It seems what many want is restricted freedom of speech and not freedom of speech. Then let the restrictions be clearly laid out. Because views expressed under the right of freedom of speech are subjected to individual evaluations which vary from person to person. In view of JNU episode the restrictions should be made clear so citizens are also clear. A forum member has been advocating that Prashant Bhushan is a traitor and needs to be whipped. He always advocates harshest punishments and uses choicest offensive words against whom he does not like. Is this proper use of the right of freedom of speech which he wants to enjoy but denies similar right to others because he does not like their opinions.
people like Prashant Bhushan knows their rights only when they are speaking, this kind people thinks that this rights are only meant for them, they forget that these rights are also for the people of India. this kind of people follows only one rights and that is right of own liking which means they do, they hear on the basis of their own liking and if they don't like they will not hear nor they will do anything which they should do.
Good points are raised. Prashant Bhushan and similar people deserve no sympathy. In fact if I had the power I would recommend whipping and the stockade.
9 years ago
Shampa Sadhya replied to the topic Dowry and alimony.
Kalyani Nandurkar wrote:
I guess the Times of India reporters do not know that alimony is given only to spouses and not parents! Alimony, support, maintenance, call it whatever you like, it amounts to the same thing and that is 'to provide financial support to the ones who are left holding the wrong end of the stick.' So what problem is there if 'alimony' is paid to parents instead of support?
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Old-parents-can-get-alimony-too/articleshow/611401.cms
@Kalyani You shared a very meaningful link. This should be read by each and every son and daughter along with their spouses. I wonder why parents need to go to court and file case against their child/children for survival! Don't the children feel ashamed of themselves? There can be unnumbered differences or maybe parents are at fault but that can never give liberty to the children to leave their parents to starve or drive them away from home. This has to be a moral responsibility of every child towards their parents and guardians.
9 years ago
Babu saroj replied to the topic Anti India slogan in JNU, Delhi.
vijay wrote:
It seems what many want is restricted freedom of speech and not freedom of speech. Then let the restrictions be clearly laid out. Because views expressed under the right of freedom of speech are subjected to individual evaluations which vary from person to person. In view of JNU episode the restrictions should be made clear so citizens are also clear. A forum member has been advocating that Prashant Bhushan is a traitor and needs to be whipped. He always advocates harshest punishments and uses choicest offensive words against whom he does not like. Is this proper use of the right of freedom of speech which he wants to enjoy but denies similar right to others because he does not like their opinions.
people like Prashant Bhushan knows their rights only when they are speaking, this kind people thinks that this rights are only meant for them, they forget that these rights are also for the people of India. this kind of people follows only one rights and that is right of own liking which means they do, they hear on the basis of their own liking and if they don't like they will not hear nor they will do anything which they should do.
9 years ago
Kalyani Nandurkar replied to the topic Is this women empowerment? .
Shampa Sadhya wrote:
I want to stick to women empowerment and not discuss about empowerment of Muslim women only. In percentage their condition is certainly more vulnerable than the women of other communities but the point is why such demarcations are still present in this society even when we are in 21st Century. The basic problem is with the sick mindset of the people for this I won't blame only the men but there are women who love to suppress the young ladies only because during their young days they were made to sacrifice their qualities and suffer. There are women who in the name of empowerment and achievement use various immoral tricks and there are many such men who willingly favour it. This is so ridiculous.Each one of us need to change our mindset, think positively, be unbiased irrespective of gender and be ethical. I think with such basic changes in our lives will empower every woman and resultantly it will upgrade our standard of living.
The problem with our society is that the list of the priorities is all wrong and screwed up. The things that deserve attention and focus are at the bottom and the ones that are not so important top the list. Sadly, it is fueled by our political system which uses religion to its own advantage. Religion, caste, regionalism such as we South Indians, you North Indians, you this, you that rule the scenario. No one wants to come on the same level as the next one, roll up their sleeves and get down to work. Each one is left pursuing his or her own agenda, country comes no where in the scene. So in effect the weaker sections, including women from all communities are left behind.
9 years ago
Kalyani Nandurkar said thank you to chinmoymukherjee for his/her reply to the topic Anti India slogan in JNU, Delhi.
Here comes the brilliant judgement of Justice Pratiba Rani of Delhi HC! She has granted bail to Kanhaiya Kumar what could be construed as 'antibiotic treatment' in her own words ,talking about the danger of infection needing surgery even amputation of it when that infection turns gangrenous! She has exposed all our pseudos whose only passion is polemics. She has taken a dig at a section of teachers whose credentials are suspect,they are out there to lead students into a world of anarchy and nihilism.I request you to go through her judgement. A very thought- provoking one!!
9 years ago
suni51 replied to the topic Anti India slogan in JNU, Delhi.
anil wrote:
suni51 wrote:
All such people behaving in such a hateful manner have no right to stay in open and if someone wants me to brand a BJP party follower that I am certainly not but I speak for my country. When a BJP member talks bad I react in the same way. It's high time we forget all about party affiliations and work for our nation or wait for the dooms day. After all what kind of freedom of expression is that which speaks ill against our own Mother-Nation? I hail the judgement of the Delhi High Court.
You are much annoyed on Delhi High court judgement. But it is interim judgement not final one. Still courts of India is raise of hope. for one moment if we accept that president of JNU did not rays anti India slogan than who did it. He is president of JNU and also host of that meeting. for any wrong thing he is prime facia responsible. Now it is his duty to trace persons who raise slogan. One more question he called meeting to gloryfy Afzal, why he did not call meeting to pay homage to martyr, brave security personal of India who sacrifice their life to save to honor and grace of temple of India's democracy, " The Parliament.
Wow, where did you read me that I am feeling bad about that judgement? In fact I am all in praise about that judgement. She knew what she was up to. She has trust on our defense system and she knows all about the cowardice, anti national acts of people like Kanaihas and his supporters. She also knows where the support is coming from and who is being targeted.
9 years ago
Shampa Sadhya replied to the topic Is this women empowerment? .
I want to stick to women empowerment and not discuss about empowerment of Muslim women only. In percentage their condition is certainly more vulnerable than the women of other communities but the point is why such demarcations are still present in this society even when we are in 21st Century. The basic problem is with the sick mindset of the people for this I won't blame only the men but there are women who love to suppress the young ladies only because during their young days they were made to sacrifice their qualities and suffer. There are women who in the name of empowerment and achievement use various immoral tricks and there are many such men who willingly favour it. This is so ridiculous.Each one of us need to change our mindset, think positively, be unbiased irrespective of gender and be ethical. I think with such basic changes in our lives will empower every woman and resultantly it will upgrade our standard of living.
9 years ago
I guess the Times of India reporters do not know that alimony is given only to spouses and not parents! Alimony, support, maintenance, call it whatever you like, it amounts to the same thing and that is 'to provide financial support to the ones who are left holding the wrong end of the stick.' So what problem is there if 'alimony' is paid to parents instead of support?
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Old-parents-can-get-alimony-too/articleshow/611401.cms
9 years ago
rambabu replied to the topic Dowry and alimony.
Very informative article Kalyani. As early as 1975, the Supreme court said the object of Section 125 Cr PC clarified is"to provide a Summary remedy to save dependents from destitution and vagrancy and thus to serve a Social purpose". This article removed all the misconceptions prevailing about Alimony.
Everybody should read this article.
9 years ago