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usha manohar liked a reply to the topic Flyover under construction ( since 7 years collapses in Calcutta !!.
9 years ago
usha manohar replied to the topic Can there be another division of India on religious lines?.
Tricolor flag came after the saffron flag - this statement was made by the RSS general secretary Joshi, one needs to be clear while making a statement and get all facts right ! And frankly it could be a fact but has no relevance now since after independence India has the tri color flag ! funnily enough why is the opposition and its supporters so shocked by this, are they so very patriotic ? they say Vande Mataram will not be accepted by minorities, Bharat mata ki Jai has already attracted a Fatwa,,,but when someone from RSS speaks about the color of the flag that was in existence before independence it become even more controversial, talk about double standards and intolerance of Congress party , opposition and some communal citizens of this country !!!!
9 years ago
usha manohar replied to the topic Communism - Is it a failed ideology ?.
Plato's theory of communism was flawed and also very limiting because he allowed some ( artisans ) to own property . His thoughts on family and women was definitely unhealthy for society because he felt family and relationships were stronghold of selfishness. No wonder his kind of communism never worked and cannot be considered as an ideology . Plato no doubt made a lot of contribution to the world in the field of philosophy but some of his views were controversial..." Love is a serious mental disease"
http://www.yourarticlelibrary.com/political-science/platos-theory-of-communism-including-2-forms-of-communism/40134/
9 years ago
vijay replied to the topic Communism - Is it a failed ideology ?.
You are taking debate to a high level but most members are only interested in condemning repeatedly in different ways. Yes Plato indeed gave the similar advice as Marx. Karl Marx wrote Das Capital based on actual observations and data and brought out effectively how people are exploited to their great benefits by capitalists. Implementation was and is wrong by communists and thus they did not succeed.
9 years ago
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani replied to the topic Can there be another division of India on religious lines?.
If you do not stop mixing religion with politics and nationalism, there is no way to stop disintegration. Now a senior BJP leadersays that saffron flag was there much before our Tri-color (Tiranga) flag. so why saffron or Bhagwa not be considered National flag. See the logic. This way, Manusmriti was there much before Indian constitution. why not treat manusmriti as Indian constitution.
I wonder where the RSS/BJP brand of nationalism will lead us to.
http://www.jansatta.com/national/bhagwa-flag-rss-leader-bhaiya-ji-joshi-controversial-comments-on-national-flag-and-national-anthem/82115/?utm_source=JansattaHP&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=slider4referral
Incidentally, minorities will not accept this line. Vande Matram, Bharat mata ki jai and also manusmriti are not acceptable to many. Patriotism or nationalism cannot be measured according to standards of the saffron brigade. It is so astonishing that some minority youth have been beaten in Delhi for not saying 'jai maataa ki'. So, is nationalism and worship of goddess same?
http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/love-india-but-only-one-god-in-islam-deobands-fatwa-against-bharat-mata-ki-jai/1/632467.html
9 years ago
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani replied to the topic A beautiful article on why we need Swadeshi!.
rambabu wrote:
Had mythologies like Ramayana and Mahabharata are mere fairy tales, why prestigious Business schools like Wharton Business school of the USA, the Indian Business School of Hyderabad and many Indian Institutes of Management would include in their curriculum ?. They are the treasure chests of Managerial knowledge. They teach lessons on Leadership, management and Governance. Professor Rajeshwar Upadhyaya has included Ramayana and other epics in a course on " Leadership lessons from World literature."
http://www.hindunet.org/hvk/articles/0907/70.html
Actually you may argue like this with me and others in forum. But my point is that if we treat the scriptures and other holy books as true, we cannot avoid conflicts between warring Hindu groups. There are different versions of Ramayana also. One such book is 'sachi Ramayana' which is considered blasphemous by those having faith in Tulsi Das Ramayana. The lower castes are aggrieved that Rama killed Shambook sage just because Vishwamitra wanted this. It is to avoid such disputes among the different groups of Hindus that we need treat these scripture lightly just as fairy tales. Even then there is no harm if you can learn something from the scriptures or mythological tales.
9 years ago
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani replied to the topic Communism - Is it a failed ideology ?.
vijay wrote:
Communism is a universal philosophy which however because of greedy nature of humans and concentrated onslaught by capitalists led by USA has fails to deliver. But it's appeal for the downtrodden and tribals etc will always be there.
As a matter of fact, Marxism is not an ideology but a science. Marx studied the social and economic phenomenon and history from materialist angle. From his studies, we get (1) dialectical materialism (2) materialist interpretation of history (3) concept of class war. Marx did not prescribe any particular ready made model of society. He did not think that there would be revolution in a particular country. He thought of world as a whole. So he gave the idea of proletarian internationalism. Apparently, the models in China, Soviet Union and some other countries did not strictly follow Marxist international principles. These were more or less national. There are some organizations that believe that Leninism is not communism. They believe that one day communism- real and not Leninist- will prevail in entire world.
Incidentally, idea of communism also prevailed much before Marx. Plato first gave the idea of communism in his book "Republic'. The communism as conceived by Plato would not allow any private property and any personal family to the ruling class including ministers and bureaucrats. They would get their necessaries from state. They would have common wives and common children.
9 years ago
vijay replied to the topic Communism - Is it a failed ideology ?.
Communism is a universal philosophy which however because of greedy nature of humans and concentrated onslaught by capitalists led by USA has fails to deliver. But it's appeal for the downtrodden and tribals etc will always be there.
9 years ago
vijay replied to the topic A beautiful article on why we need Swadeshi!.
Please do not drag Ramayana and Mahabharta into religious polarization as they are indeed wonderful epics without any bias towards anyone. They speak of human nature which is universal. It is itrelevant to this thread.
9 years ago
rambabu replied to the topic A beautiful article on why we need Swadeshi!.
Had mythologies like Ramayana and Mahabharata are mere fairy tales, why prestigious Business schools like Wharton Business school of the USA, the Indian Business School of Hyderabad and many Indian Institutes of Management would include in their curriculum ?. They are the treasure chests of Managerial knowledge. They teach lessons on Leadership, management and Governance. Professor Rajeshwar Upadhyaya has included Ramayana and other epics in a course on " Leadership lessons from World literature."
http://www.hindunet.org/hvk/articles/0907/70.html
9 years ago
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani replied to the topic Communism - Is it a failed ideology ?.
vijay wrote:
Communism in India was in the hands of Brahmins for too long and it thus became an arm chair movement. The opportunities they got in Bengal and Kerala or Tripura have not been converted into communist orientations as the Indian people are very possessive of their property and are willing to work in competitive atmosphere to improvevtheir lives. The party is seen as one more political party in democracy. It cannot take roots in India.
In India, Communists came to power only in states and not at center. They have to work within constitutional framework and can neither bring and drastic change nor can be expected to do so. But it is creditable that they are comparatively more honest and idealistic than others. The Tripura C.M. is an example. He is considered world's poorest head of any government. They are also not after ministerial posts like others. They supported Man Mohan singh government and earlier United Front governments from outside not accepting any ministerial berth though many parties smaller than them got ministerial berths.
9 years ago
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani replied to the topic A beautiful article on why we need Swadeshi!.
vijay wrote:
Lower castes want revenge against upper castes, Hindus want Muslims to behave as per their desire, upper castes pass judgements left and right, what is happening?
Once you give up rational thought and secularism ,there is no end of the road for self destruction and disintegration. There is no alternative to secularism in India. Let religion not be mixed with politics. The Hindutva forces target the non Hindus and thrust their ideology on others. This is boomeranging as the so called Hindutva is facing disintegration within itself. Let us all go according to constitution of India and the contents of scriptures and mythology be treated just as fairy tales and nothing more. The Durga- Mahishasur and Hiranakashyap- Prahalad- Holika stories also need be taken only as tales and there is no need to fight for these. As long as you mix religion and politics, such infighting cannot be stopped.
9 years ago
vijay replied to the topic Communism - Is it a failed ideology ?.
Communism in India was in the hands of Brahmins for too long and it thus became an arm chair movement. The opportunities they got in Bengal and Kerala or Tripura have not been converted into communist orientations as the Indian people are very possessive of their property and are willing to work in competitive atmosphere to improvevtheir lives. The party is seen as one more political party in democracy. It cannot take roots in India.
9 years ago
vijay replied to the topic Flyover under construction ( since 7 years collapses in Calcutta !!.
Good suggestion for a change.
9 years ago
vijay replied to the topic A beautiful article on why we need Swadeshi!.
Lower castes want revenge against upper castes, Hindus want Muslims to behave as per their desire, upper castes pass judgements left and right, what is happening?
9 years ago
Kalyani Nandurkar replied to the topic Flyover under construction ( since 7 years collapses in Calcutta !!.
I feel that we have all tolerated corruption and lack of commitment towards public property and misuse of taxpayers money for so many decades now that it has become a habit for us. That is why, no one feels outraged or upset when such construction of flyovers, bridges, dams etc. get dragged on and on for years and years, some never get finished but are left half way, some are so much substandard in quality that we see what happens. It is time to pull up our socks and make the ones responsible for this incident pay for their greed. All the officials, contractors, builders related to this bridge must be severely punished. I wonder if we can get the 'award wapasi brigade' to agitate for action these people?
9 years ago
Kalyani Nandurkar replied to the topic My five articles are rejected .
Babu Saroj, you have already received an answer from admin himself and there is nothing further to be discussed on this issue. So I am locking the thread now. Do not create any more threads on this issue again otherwise appropriate action will be taken.
9 years ago
Kalyani Nandurkar replied to the topic Minor aches and pains , if neglected can turn fatal !!!!.
usha manohar wrote:
Kalyani Nandurkar wrote:
usha manohar wrote:
Instead of self medication and following the advise of other people it is best to consult a physician to get to the root of the problem. I have an example of a lady losing her eye sight because she went in for wrong advise, using someone else's old throw away spectacles and eye drops..
Wow, using someone else's glasses and eye drops? I think that is a tad bit too much irresponsibility! Some people do anything to save a few bucks on the doctor which is actually necessary!
Yes it is sad Kalyani ! I guess it is because of lack of means that the lady in question took what she got without giving any thought to the consequences..
Kalyani, since this thread is going nowhere except become an amateur health advisory column for almost two pages I would be glad if you or one of the moderators please close it..
Yes, probably the economic conditions led the poor woman to do that, really sad.
Since it is not going anywhere, locking the thread now. Thank you.
9 years ago
usha manohar liked a reply to the topic Flyover under construction ( since 7 years collapses in Calcutta !!.
9 years ago
usha manohar replied to the topic Can there be another division of India on religious lines?.
Tricolor flag came after the saffron flag - this statement was made by the RSS general secretary Joshi, one needs to be clear while making a statement and get all facts right ! And frankly it could be a fact but has no relevance now since after independence India has the tri color flag ! funnily enough why is the opposition and its supporters so shocked by this, are they so very patriotic ? they say Vande Mataram will not be accepted by minorities, Bharat mata ki Jai has already attracted a Fatwa,,,but when someone from RSS speaks about the color of the flag that was in existence before independence it become even more controversial, talk about double standards and intolerance of Congress party , opposition and some communal citizens of this country !!!!
9 years ago
usha manohar replied to the topic Communism - Is it a failed ideology ?.
Plato's theory of communism was flawed and also very limiting because he allowed some ( artisans ) to own property . His thoughts on family and women was definitely unhealthy for society because he felt family and relationships were stronghold of selfishness. No wonder his kind of communism never worked and cannot be considered as an ideology . Plato no doubt made a lot of contribution to the world in the field of philosophy but some of his views were controversial..." Love is a serious mental disease"
http://www.yourarticlelibrary.com/political-science/platos-theory-of-communism-including-2-forms-of-communism/40134/
9 years ago
vijay replied to the topic Communism - Is it a failed ideology ?.
You are taking debate to a high level but most members are only interested in condemning repeatedly in different ways. Yes Plato indeed gave the similar advice as Marx. Karl Marx wrote Das Capital based on actual observations and data and brought out effectively how people are exploited to their great benefits by capitalists. Implementation was and is wrong by communists and thus they did not succeed.
9 years ago
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani replied to the topic Can there be another division of India on religious lines?.
If you do not stop mixing religion with politics and nationalism, there is no way to stop disintegration. Now a senior BJP leadersays that saffron flag was there much before our Tri-color (Tiranga) flag. so why saffron or Bhagwa not be considered National flag. See the logic. This way, Manusmriti was there much before Indian constitution. why not treat manusmriti as Indian constitution.
I wonder where the RSS/BJP brand of nationalism will lead us to.
http://www.jansatta.com/national/bhagwa-flag-rss-leader-bhaiya-ji-joshi-controversial-comments-on-national-flag-and-national-anthem/82115/?utm_source=JansattaHP&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=slider4referral
Incidentally, minorities will not accept this line. Vande Matram, Bharat mata ki jai and also manusmriti are not acceptable to many. Patriotism or nationalism cannot be measured according to standards of the saffron brigade. It is so astonishing that some minority youth have been beaten in Delhi for not saying 'jai maataa ki'. So, is nationalism and worship of goddess same?
http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/love-india-but-only-one-god-in-islam-deobands-fatwa-against-bharat-mata-ki-jai/1/632467.html
9 years ago
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani replied to the topic A beautiful article on why we need Swadeshi!.
rambabu wrote:
Had mythologies like Ramayana and Mahabharata are mere fairy tales, why prestigious Business schools like Wharton Business school of the USA, the Indian Business School of Hyderabad and many Indian Institutes of Management would include in their curriculum ?. They are the treasure chests of Managerial knowledge. They teach lessons on Leadership, management and Governance. Professor Rajeshwar Upadhyaya has included Ramayana and other epics in a course on " Leadership lessons from World literature."
http://www.hindunet.org/hvk/articles/0907/70.html
Actually you may argue like this with me and others in forum. But my point is that if we treat the scriptures and other holy books as true, we cannot avoid conflicts between warring Hindu groups. There are different versions of Ramayana also. One such book is 'sachi Ramayana' which is considered blasphemous by those having faith in Tulsi Das Ramayana. The lower castes are aggrieved that Rama killed Shambook sage just because Vishwamitra wanted this. It is to avoid such disputes among the different groups of Hindus that we need treat these scripture lightly just as fairy tales. Even then there is no harm if you can learn something from the scriptures or mythological tales.
9 years ago
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani replied to the topic Communism - Is it a failed ideology ?.
vijay wrote:
Communism is a universal philosophy which however because of greedy nature of humans and concentrated onslaught by capitalists led by USA has fails to deliver. But it's appeal for the downtrodden and tribals etc will always be there.
As a matter of fact, Marxism is not an ideology but a science. Marx studied the social and economic phenomenon and history from materialist angle. From his studies, we get (1) dialectical materialism (2) materialist interpretation of history (3) concept of class war. Marx did not prescribe any particular ready made model of society. He did not think that there would be revolution in a particular country. He thought of world as a whole. So he gave the idea of proletarian internationalism. Apparently, the models in China, Soviet Union and some other countries did not strictly follow Marxist international principles. These were more or less national. There are some organizations that believe that Leninism is not communism. They believe that one day communism- real and not Leninist- will prevail in entire world.
Incidentally, idea of communism also prevailed much before Marx. Plato first gave the idea of communism in his book "Republic'. The communism as conceived by Plato would not allow any private property and any personal family to the ruling class including ministers and bureaucrats. They would get their necessaries from state. They would have common wives and common children.
9 years ago
vijay replied to the topic Communism - Is it a failed ideology ?.
Communism is a universal philosophy which however because of greedy nature of humans and concentrated onslaught by capitalists led by USA has fails to deliver. But it's appeal for the downtrodden and tribals etc will always be there.
9 years ago
vijay replied to the topic A beautiful article on why we need Swadeshi!.
Please do not drag Ramayana and Mahabharta into religious polarization as they are indeed wonderful epics without any bias towards anyone. They speak of human nature which is universal. It is itrelevant to this thread.
9 years ago
rambabu replied to the topic A beautiful article on why we need Swadeshi!.
Had mythologies like Ramayana and Mahabharata are mere fairy tales, why prestigious Business schools like Wharton Business school of the USA, the Indian Business School of Hyderabad and many Indian Institutes of Management would include in their curriculum ?. They are the treasure chests of Managerial knowledge. They teach lessons on Leadership, management and Governance. Professor Rajeshwar Upadhyaya has included Ramayana and other epics in a course on " Leadership lessons from World literature."
http://www.hindunet.org/hvk/articles/0907/70.html
9 years ago
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani replied to the topic Communism - Is it a failed ideology ?.
vijay wrote:
Communism in India was in the hands of Brahmins for too long and it thus became an arm chair movement. The opportunities they got in Bengal and Kerala or Tripura have not been converted into communist orientations as the Indian people are very possessive of their property and are willing to work in competitive atmosphere to improvevtheir lives. The party is seen as one more political party in democracy. It cannot take roots in India.
In India, Communists came to power only in states and not at center. They have to work within constitutional framework and can neither bring and drastic change nor can be expected to do so. But it is creditable that they are comparatively more honest and idealistic than others. The Tripura C.M. is an example. He is considered world's poorest head of any government. They are also not after ministerial posts like others. They supported Man Mohan singh government and earlier United Front governments from outside not accepting any ministerial berth though many parties smaller than them got ministerial berths.
9 years ago
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani replied to the topic A beautiful article on why we need Swadeshi!.
vijay wrote:
Lower castes want revenge against upper castes, Hindus want Muslims to behave as per their desire, upper castes pass judgements left and right, what is happening?
Once you give up rational thought and secularism ,there is no end of the road for self destruction and disintegration. There is no alternative to secularism in India. Let religion not be mixed with politics. The Hindutva forces target the non Hindus and thrust their ideology on others. This is boomeranging as the so called Hindutva is facing disintegration within itself. Let us all go according to constitution of India and the contents of scriptures and mythology be treated just as fairy tales and nothing more. The Durga- Mahishasur and Hiranakashyap- Prahalad- Holika stories also need be taken only as tales and there is no need to fight for these. As long as you mix religion and politics, such infighting cannot be stopped.
9 years ago
vijay replied to the topic Communism - Is it a failed ideology ?.
Communism in India was in the hands of Brahmins for too long and it thus became an arm chair movement. The opportunities they got in Bengal and Kerala or Tripura have not been converted into communist orientations as the Indian people are very possessive of their property and are willing to work in competitive atmosphere to improvevtheir lives. The party is seen as one more political party in democracy. It cannot take roots in India.
9 years ago
vijay replied to the topic Flyover under construction ( since 7 years collapses in Calcutta !!.
Good suggestion for a change.
9 years ago
vijay replied to the topic A beautiful article on why we need Swadeshi!.
Lower castes want revenge against upper castes, Hindus want Muslims to behave as per their desire, upper castes pass judgements left and right, what is happening?
9 years ago
Kalyani Nandurkar replied to the topic Flyover under construction ( since 7 years collapses in Calcutta !!.
I feel that we have all tolerated corruption and lack of commitment towards public property and misuse of taxpayers money for so many decades now that it has become a habit for us. That is why, no one feels outraged or upset when such construction of flyovers, bridges, dams etc. get dragged on and on for years and years, some never get finished but are left half way, some are so much substandard in quality that we see what happens. It is time to pull up our socks and make the ones responsible for this incident pay for their greed. All the officials, contractors, builders related to this bridge must be severely punished. I wonder if we can get the 'award wapasi brigade' to agitate for action these people?
9 years ago
Kalyani Nandurkar replied to the topic My five articles are rejected .
Babu Saroj, you have already received an answer from admin himself and there is nothing further to be discussed on this issue. So I am locking the thread now. Do not create any more threads on this issue again otherwise appropriate action will be taken.
9 years ago
Kalyani Nandurkar replied to the topic Minor aches and pains , if neglected can turn fatal !!!!.
usha manohar wrote:
Kalyani Nandurkar wrote:
usha manohar wrote:
Instead of self medication and following the advise of other people it is best to consult a physician to get to the root of the problem. I have an example of a lady losing her eye sight because she went in for wrong advise, using someone else's old throw away spectacles and eye drops..
Wow, using someone else's glasses and eye drops? I think that is a tad bit too much irresponsibility! Some people do anything to save a few bucks on the doctor which is actually necessary!
Yes it is sad Kalyani ! I guess it is because of lack of means that the lady in question took what she got without giving any thought to the consequences..
Kalyani, since this thread is going nowhere except become an amateur health advisory column for almost two pages I would be glad if you or one of the moderators please close it..
Yes, probably the economic conditions led the poor woman to do that, really sad.
Since it is not going anywhere, locking the thread now. Thank you.
9 years ago