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usha manohar replied to the topic Criteria for promotions - merit or seniority ?.
I can understand the necessity for educational qualifications because they need to have some bench mark or criteria for selection. Nowadays interviews are given a lot more importance once the basic essentials like qualification and years of minimum experience etc are met with. The attitude and the competence of a person can only be judged during an interview. Many very promising and with brilliant degrees fail to reach the grade set by the employers during the interview..No doubt it is not easy for youngsters to ge int an organisation and only the very smart ones are able to get the best paying jobs. It would be the same with senior workers as well, not all of them become better with experience , some may remain the same all through their career.
9 years ago
rambabu replied to the topic Criteria for promotions - merit or seniority ?.
When someone is in a position to deliver what an Organization wants and the person's contribution boosts the productivity of the Organization, I do not see anything wrong in recruiting a retired person. What I feel is, everything depends on the organization's policies. It is also possible, if the Organization is confident and is convinced about a person's contribution, the Organization may go all the way to relax the rules and policies as an exception.
9 years ago
vijay replied to the topic The (in)efficiency of our high courts...
I have no dispute with your experience but wish situation were half as true as you are trying to make us believe. Courts need to be made much more efficient in their working irrespective of who is in power.
9 years ago
usha manohar replied to the topic The (in)efficiency of our high courts...
I write from my own personal experience. My ancestral family was involved in a property litigation, the case being filed in 1974 and it finally reached Supreme court in 2006 and was settled. Cases in family court have a stipulated time period of 2 and a half years , and even if it takes a little longer Divorce cases do not go on for decades like before. Civil cases take much longer but normally from what I have seen, are moving faster inspite of the adjournments and court vacations. We have a case going n since 2011 and with all the delays and adjournments it has reached the final stages , which would never happen before.
There is a shortage of judges and there are far too many cases no doubt but with computerisation things are moving faster now. Unlike earlier when you had to wait for days together to get an RTC or encumberance certificate , now you can get it immediately ..
9 years ago
Shampa Sadhya replied to the topic Criteria for promotions - merit or seniority ?.
There are capable seniors in many organisations but some of them seems to lack professional degrees but such degrees have become a norm in most of the companies now. In some cases the service record of the seniors are not that good, while young ones lack experience. The juniors have professional degree as well as zeal but are not very willing to continue in the same office for quite long so in that case the supreme boss needs to be very tactful. They must retain and promote the truly deserving one. See, experienced people will one day attain retirement so the organisation has to be run by the younger lot so they need to be prepared for the senior post. In that case if juniors are not promoted then they will not take interest in working very hardly for the company. I feel, the situation is tricky and so everything must come into consideration and strike a balance while promoting a staff
9 years ago
usha manohar replied to the topic Criteria for promotions - merit or seniority ?.
In India we have unemployment as well as under employment because of lack of job opportunities. However, some retired senior officials known to me have landed better paying jobs after their retirement. It is probably due too the fact that they have a lot to contribute. There is one more avenue for retired professors and lecturers , which I find quite ridiculous. Some private colleges wanting to cut down on staff expenditure , just to keep to the standard student/teacher ratio enroll some retired and well known professors as honorary lecturers. They are paid a smaller sum compared to what a regular professor gets and get to do nothing except go for invigilation and guest lectures once or twice a month. Everyone is happy in this situation but it also shows how our education system works..
9 years ago
rambabu replied to the topic The (in)efficiency of our high courts...
I'm not aware of other types of courts. But I had seen How the Family Courts are functioning. A friend of mine who was working as a teacher in a nearby city was charged with Domestic violence by his wife, just after 6 months of his marriage, which I attended and I know well about him and his family.Whenever. Whenever he is summoned by the court, he used to come and stay with me only to know that the case has been adjourned. Because the Court clerk who records the proceedings had gone on leave to attend a family function. Because there was no extra clerk to record the proceedings., the case has been adjourned.
In this regard,I would say that one of the reasons for poor functioning of the Courts is,Courts are short staffed. It goes without saying, such reasons are the reason for adjournments and piling up of the cases enormously.
9 years ago
Shampa Sadhya liked a reply to the topic Criteria for promotions - merit or seniority ?.
9 years ago
vijay replied to the topic The (in)efficiency of our high courts...
You are not writing on facts. Cases take more time than before to be resolved. There is no sense of urgency in our judicial system. Adjournments are granted at the drop of a hat.
9 years ago
vijay replied to the topic Criteria for promotions - merit or seniority ?.
The energy of the young and experience of the old can be positively and gainfully manipulated by managements to attain corporate goals. As a rule in Indian conditions retired persons should not be employed because of unemployment and less job generations. However there can be exceptions.
9 years ago
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani liked a reply to the topic Is the Congress party the modern day successor of the Gaddar e Hind Mir Jafar?.
9 years ago
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani liked a reply to the topic Is the Congress party the modern day successor of the Gaddar e Hind Mir Jafar?.
9 years ago
rambabu replied to the topic Which team will become IPL 2016 champion ?.
Of Course, As of now, Cricket Channels Points Chart indicates KKR and GL are tied up. Each of the teams have 6 points, followed by DD and MI. At this stage I feel predictions may become true or misfire too.
9 years ago
Babu saroj replied to the topic Which team will become IPL 2016 champion ?.
well day by day by prediction of KKR is going to be true. I said in the starting that KKR goona rock this season and they are doing the same
9 years ago
Babu saroj replied to the topic The death chart .
yeah its true that death is not in our hand but we can live our life in a safety way like leaving the smoking habits, leaving the consumption of liquor etc
9 years ago
Babu saroj replied to the topic Criteria for promotions - merit or seniority ?.
well now a day many organisation wants the younger to be their head because they think that the new shoulder can lift the heavy weight of work and can be able to take the organisation to the new level.
9 years ago
Kalyani Nandurkar liked a reply to the topic Criteria for promotions - merit or seniority ?.
9 years ago
usha manohar replied to the topic The (in)efficiency of our high courts...
When NDA was in power , Arun Jaitley was the law minister and he had come up with many solutions to speed up the judicial process since civil cases were often taking two decades to reach their conclusion. To a certain extent he did succeed also brought in family court to solve domestic issues like divorce , maintenance during separation and domestic violence. This made sure that a good number of cases were shifted to family court and only the civil and criminal cases remained with the sessions court. So, there has been improvement and cases don't take that long now. Another unique feature that we have in India is property cases , often are very different depending on different regions also different castes and communities.
9 years ago
usha manohar replied to the topic The (in)efficiency of our high courts...
When NDA was in power , Arun Jaitley was the law minister and he had come up with many solutions to speed up the judicial process since civil cases were often taking two decades to reach their conclusion. To a certain extent he did succeed also brought in family court to solve domestic issues like divorce , maintenance during separation and domestic violence. This made sure that a good number of cases were shifted to family court and only the civil and criminal cases remained with the sessions court. So, there has been improvement and cases don't take that long now. Another unique feature that we have in India is property cases , often are very different depending on different regions also different castes and communities.
9 years ago
usha manohar replied to the topic Criteria for promotions - merit or seniority ?.
Kalyani Nandurkar wrote:
usha manohar wrote:
Kalyani Nandurkar wrote:
That is so ad, but this kind of thing happens in almost organisations. Truth is, nowadays, seniority and experience hardly counts for much. The younger people might be good workers and may have talent and knowledge of latest technology required than the senior person may have. But the fact still remains that the senior person has put in more years of his life to the job and has the benefit of better experience and judgement that will come handy while leading others, so ignoring such a person and promoting others is simply not fair.
Exactly ! Another fact is that these days percentage wise many of the youngsters are foot loose , changing jobs and looking for better opportunities all the time rather than stick to one job and become thorough! In such a scenario, how wise is it for companies to overlook senior workers who have stuck on and contributed all through their career . Unless a balance is stuck it may become counter productive for an organisation to take on a younger worker and give him more responsibilities.Everything should happen step by step.
Exactly, younger candidates are concerned more about their own growth than the company's growth. I have seen with my own eyes, how younger candidates decisions have been seen as more beneficial to the company which in reality, were damaging in the long run, but they went ahead with it anyway and then had to pay the cost by losing a valuable client. In this case, it was my close friend, a senior manager whose experience and wisdom had been thwarted in favour of a younger, more dynamic guy. But by the time the company realised her true worth, she had left the company for another who favoured experience and wisdom more than younger candidates' so-called dynamism and charisma! So like you said, balance in striking all these factors together is necessary. Younger people also have really questionable loyalty as they keep hopping jobs every two years for better package!
Kalyani, there are some organisations that take on even retired personnel who are very senior but with a lot of experience. Recently one of my relatives , an engineer retired from a state government concern was appointed by MRPL as a consultant executive because they saw that he was capable and was as good or better than the younger lot. I guess it also has to do with the mindset in some cases where employers tend to think that older people have a stick in the mud attitude which may not be the case. So also not all youngsters are dynamic in their approach.
9 years ago
usha manohar replied to the topic Criteria for promotions - merit or seniority ?.
I can understand the necessity for educational qualifications because they need to have some bench mark or criteria for selection. Nowadays interviews are given a lot more importance once the basic essentials like qualification and years of minimum experience etc are met with. The attitude and the competence of a person can only be judged during an interview. Many very promising and with brilliant degrees fail to reach the grade set by the employers during the interview..No doubt it is not easy for youngsters to ge int an organisation and only the very smart ones are able to get the best paying jobs. It would be the same with senior workers as well, not all of them become better with experience , some may remain the same all through their career.
9 years ago
rambabu replied to the topic Criteria for promotions - merit or seniority ?.
When someone is in a position to deliver what an Organization wants and the person's contribution boosts the productivity of the Organization, I do not see anything wrong in recruiting a retired person. What I feel is, everything depends on the organization's policies. It is also possible, if the Organization is confident and is convinced about a person's contribution, the Organization may go all the way to relax the rules and policies as an exception.
9 years ago
vijay replied to the topic The (in)efficiency of our high courts...
I have no dispute with your experience but wish situation were half as true as you are trying to make us believe. Courts need to be made much more efficient in their working irrespective of who is in power.
9 years ago
usha manohar replied to the topic The (in)efficiency of our high courts...
I write from my own personal experience. My ancestral family was involved in a property litigation, the case being filed in 1974 and it finally reached Supreme court in 2006 and was settled. Cases in family court have a stipulated time period of 2 and a half years , and even if it takes a little longer Divorce cases do not go on for decades like before. Civil cases take much longer but normally from what I have seen, are moving faster inspite of the adjournments and court vacations. We have a case going n since 2011 and with all the delays and adjournments it has reached the final stages , which would never happen before.
There is a shortage of judges and there are far too many cases no doubt but with computerisation things are moving faster now. Unlike earlier when you had to wait for days together to get an RTC or encumberance certificate , now you can get it immediately ..
9 years ago
Shampa Sadhya replied to the topic Criteria for promotions - merit or seniority ?.
There are capable seniors in many organisations but some of them seems to lack professional degrees but such degrees have become a norm in most of the companies now. In some cases the service record of the seniors are not that good, while young ones lack experience. The juniors have professional degree as well as zeal but are not very willing to continue in the same office for quite long so in that case the supreme boss needs to be very tactful. They must retain and promote the truly deserving one. See, experienced people will one day attain retirement so the organisation has to be run by the younger lot so they need to be prepared for the senior post. In that case if juniors are not promoted then they will not take interest in working very hardly for the company. I feel, the situation is tricky and so everything must come into consideration and strike a balance while promoting a staff
9 years ago
usha manohar replied to the topic Criteria for promotions - merit or seniority ?.
In India we have unemployment as well as under employment because of lack of job opportunities. However, some retired senior officials known to me have landed better paying jobs after their retirement. It is probably due too the fact that they have a lot to contribute. There is one more avenue for retired professors and lecturers , which I find quite ridiculous. Some private colleges wanting to cut down on staff expenditure , just to keep to the standard student/teacher ratio enroll some retired and well known professors as honorary lecturers. They are paid a smaller sum compared to what a regular professor gets and get to do nothing except go for invigilation and guest lectures once or twice a month. Everyone is happy in this situation but it also shows how our education system works..
9 years ago
rambabu replied to the topic The (in)efficiency of our high courts...
I'm not aware of other types of courts. But I had seen How the Family Courts are functioning. A friend of mine who was working as a teacher in a nearby city was charged with Domestic violence by his wife, just after 6 months of his marriage, which I attended and I know well about him and his family.Whenever. Whenever he is summoned by the court, he used to come and stay with me only to know that the case has been adjourned. Because the Court clerk who records the proceedings had gone on leave to attend a family function. Because there was no extra clerk to record the proceedings., the case has been adjourned.
In this regard,I would say that one of the reasons for poor functioning of the Courts is,Courts are short staffed. It goes without saying, such reasons are the reason for adjournments and piling up of the cases enormously.
9 years ago
Shampa Sadhya liked a reply to the topic Criteria for promotions - merit or seniority ?.
9 years ago
vijay replied to the topic The (in)efficiency of our high courts...
You are not writing on facts. Cases take more time than before to be resolved. There is no sense of urgency in our judicial system. Adjournments are granted at the drop of a hat.
9 years ago
vijay replied to the topic Criteria for promotions - merit or seniority ?.
The energy of the young and experience of the old can be positively and gainfully manipulated by managements to attain corporate goals. As a rule in Indian conditions retired persons should not be employed because of unemployment and less job generations. However there can be exceptions.
9 years ago
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani liked a reply to the topic Is the Congress party the modern day successor of the Gaddar e Hind Mir Jafar?.
9 years ago
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani liked a reply to the topic Is the Congress party the modern day successor of the Gaddar e Hind Mir Jafar?.
9 years ago
rambabu replied to the topic Which team will become IPL 2016 champion ?.
Of Course, As of now, Cricket Channels Points Chart indicates KKR and GL are tied up. Each of the teams have 6 points, followed by DD and MI. At this stage I feel predictions may become true or misfire too.
9 years ago
Babu saroj replied to the topic Which team will become IPL 2016 champion ?.
well day by day by prediction of KKR is going to be true. I said in the starting that KKR goona rock this season and they are doing the same
9 years ago
Babu saroj replied to the topic The death chart .
yeah its true that death is not in our hand but we can live our life in a safety way like leaving the smoking habits, leaving the consumption of liquor etc
9 years ago
Babu saroj replied to the topic Criteria for promotions - merit or seniority ?.
well now a day many organisation wants the younger to be their head because they think that the new shoulder can lift the heavy weight of work and can be able to take the organisation to the new level.
9 years ago
Kalyani Nandurkar liked a reply to the topic Criteria for promotions - merit or seniority ?.
9 years ago
usha manohar replied to the topic The (in)efficiency of our high courts...
When NDA was in power , Arun Jaitley was the law minister and he had come up with many solutions to speed up the judicial process since civil cases were often taking two decades to reach their conclusion. To a certain extent he did succeed also brought in family court to solve domestic issues like divorce , maintenance during separation and domestic violence. This made sure that a good number of cases were shifted to family court and only the civil and criminal cases remained with the sessions court. So, there has been improvement and cases don't take that long now. Another unique feature that we have in India is property cases , often are very different depending on different regions also different castes and communities.
9 years ago
usha manohar replied to the topic The (in)efficiency of our high courts...
When NDA was in power , Arun Jaitley was the law minister and he had come up with many solutions to speed up the judicial process since civil cases were often taking two decades to reach their conclusion. To a certain extent he did succeed also brought in family court to solve domestic issues like divorce , maintenance during separation and domestic violence. This made sure that a good number of cases were shifted to family court and only the civil and criminal cases remained with the sessions court. So, there has been improvement and cases don't take that long now. Another unique feature that we have in India is property cases , often are very different depending on different regions also different castes and communities.
9 years ago
usha manohar replied to the topic Criteria for promotions - merit or seniority ?.
Kalyani Nandurkar wrote:
usha manohar wrote:
Kalyani Nandurkar wrote:
That is so ad, but this kind of thing happens in almost organisations. Truth is, nowadays, seniority and experience hardly counts for much. The younger people might be good workers and may have talent and knowledge of latest technology required than the senior person may have. But the fact still remains that the senior person has put in more years of his life to the job and has the benefit of better experience and judgement that will come handy while leading others, so ignoring such a person and promoting others is simply not fair.
Exactly ! Another fact is that these days percentage wise many of the youngsters are foot loose , changing jobs and looking for better opportunities all the time rather than stick to one job and become thorough! In such a scenario, how wise is it for companies to overlook senior workers who have stuck on and contributed all through their career . Unless a balance is stuck it may become counter productive for an organisation to take on a younger worker and give him more responsibilities.Everything should happen step by step.
Exactly, younger candidates are concerned more about their own growth than the company's growth. I have seen with my own eyes, how younger candidates decisions have been seen as more beneficial to the company which in reality, were damaging in the long run, but they went ahead with it anyway and then had to pay the cost by losing a valuable client. In this case, it was my close friend, a senior manager whose experience and wisdom had been thwarted in favour of a younger, more dynamic guy. But by the time the company realised her true worth, she had left the company for another who favoured experience and wisdom more than younger candidates' so-called dynamism and charisma! So like you said, balance in striking all these factors together is necessary. Younger people also have really questionable loyalty as they keep hopping jobs every two years for better package!
Kalyani, there are some organisations that take on even retired personnel who are very senior but with a lot of experience. Recently one of my relatives , an engineer retired from a state government concern was appointed by MRPL as a consultant executive because they saw that he was capable and was as good or better than the younger lot. I guess it also has to do with the mindset in some cases where employers tend to think that older people have a stick in the mud attitude which may not be the case. So also not all youngsters are dynamic in their approach.
9 years ago